A couple of questions from a noob

[Waipukbiker]

Gday, firstly, Running tubeless tyres on spoked wheels, Ive got Metzler Tourances both front and rear (radials) with tubes.
They were on there when I brought the bike.
The bike feels fine to ride with no handling probs, (Im not a "go hard" rider anyway). so is the above combo ok?

2nd, can the likes of Tyre Pando or the other canned products be used in tubed tyres?

Cheers and thanks

[DMNTD]

Gday, firstly, Running tubeless tyres on spoked wheels, Ive got Metzler Tourances both front and rear (radials) with tubes.
They were on there when I brought the bike.
The bike feels fine to ride with no handling probs, (Im not a "go hard" rider anyway). so is the above combo ok?

2nd, can the likes of Tyre Pando or the other canned products be used in tubed tyres?

Cheers and thanks

Recommend a product called Tru Blu Goo (I think). Preventative medicine. Good shit

[pete376403]

Some BMWs use a spoke arrangement that puts the spoke nipples in the hub rather than the rim so are ok with tubeless tyres.

In my experience Pandos and the like just make a shitty mess inside tubes and tyres unless you get very lucky. YMMV.

[Oscar]

If you have a tubeless tyre, carry a repair kit.
If you have tubes, carry a spare and levers.

Pando - icky mess.
Blue Goo - icky mess and balance problems (plus it is designed for ATV's).

[DMNTD]

Blue Goo - icky mess and balance problems (plus it is designed for ATV's).

Interesting as I've had zero problems on the road nor the track. And no it's not just designed for ATVs either.

[BMWST?]

if you get a decent hole in a tubeless tyre it can be impossible to fix on the side of the road,anf if you take the tyre off the rim to make a repair they can be difficult to seat/seal when you put them back on.compressor or lots of co2 cannisters,or a tie down and a pump

[young1]

if you get a decent hole in a tubeless tyre it can be impossible to fix on the side of the road,anf if you take the tyre off the rim to make a repair they can be difficult to seat/seal when you put them back on.compressor or lots of co2 cannisters,or a tie down and a pump

What is the tie down used for?

[GSers]

What is the tie down used for?

Wrap aroud the circumference of the tyre and tighten helps push the tyre out on the beads to seal.

GSers

[Oscar]

Interesting as I've had zero problems on the road nor the track. And no it's not just designed for ATVs either.

This is the Adv/DP Dept. - take your Goop over the 42nd Traverse or Rainbow track if you like.
I'll take levers and a spare tube.

Ps. If caps are shouting, then a bold font must be a raised voice...

[tri boy]

Adv ridering lesson 101.
Learn to repair flat tyres.
Carry the levers/tube repair kit/spare tube.
Tyre goo is best left at home. Good for trailer tyres and cars. MHO

Most tubeless tyres, (99%) are fine on tube type set ups, but can be a challenge sometime to break the bead. (a mates side stand is a great bead breaker on the trail)

Don't ride with Oscar, or a bird called Pooey. They attract flat tyres.:killingme

[DMNTD]

This is the Adv/DP Dept. - take your Goop over the 42nd Traverse or Rainbow track if you like.
I'll take levers and a spare tube.

The ability to read has not passed me but thanks for pointing that out.
Re Tru Blu Goop....I can only state what a couple of dozen adventure riders have told me of their personal experiences.
If I meet them again I'll point out just how wrong they are

[Woodman]

The conumdrum with putting goop or slime in a tyre as a preventative measure is, how do you know if it fixed a hole in your tube or not? how would you ever know?

I carry tubes, levers and patches. Don't slime anymore.

[Night Falcon]

Gday, firstly, Running tubeless tyres on spoked wheels, Ive got Metzler Tourances both front and rear (radials) with tubes.
They were on there when I brought the bike.
The bike feels fine to ride with no handling probs, (Im not a "go hard" rider anyway). so is the above combo ok?

2nd, can the likes of Tyre Pando or the other canned products be used in tubed tyres?

Cheers and thanks

Tourances are probably an 80/20 tire at best (80% road 20% light gravel) although in the hands of an experienced pilot you can just about get a bike anywhere on even the most inapropriate tires. For the rest of us...If you plan to be riding anywhere slighty more chalanging you might like something a bit more aggressive, specially up front. Check out the tire thread at the top of the ADV thread there is plenty of good and bad advice in there to confuse you. you can spend hours trolling the net for advice on the best tire but IMHO the only way to see what works is to buy n try.

I'll leave the pando query to those more learned than me, personally I'm a cary spare tube kinda guy...I gave up on repair kits as a bad joke way back in my chopper days (green matalic one, ape hangers, elephant seat, 3 speed stick shift...way cool :cool:)

[Oscar]

Adv ridering lesson 101.

Don't ride with Oscar, or a bird called Pooey. They attract flat tyres.:killingme

Bastid:brick:
And it's bad fer letterboxes...:baby:

[Oscar]

The ability to read has not passed me but thanks for pointing that out.
Re Tru Blu Goop....I can only state what a couple of dozen adventure riders have told me of their personal experiences.
If I meet them again I'll point out just how wrong they are



There's no right way - use as much goo as you like.
But my experience suggests that the most common cause of a flat tyre on an adv or enduro bike is a torn valve stem, closely followed by a impact split.
Any amount of goo is not going to fix these...

[dino3310]

There's no right way - use as much goo as you like.
But my experience suggests that the most common cause of a flat tyre on an adv or enduro bike is a torn valve stem, closely followed by a impact split.
Any amount of goo is not going to fix these...

Funny when ya see someone try to fix an impact split on the tube with tyre goo, makes for a good mess and a laugh at there expence when they end up having to replace the tube with the goo getting over everything.(lots of cussing)

goo wont fix everything, i cover my bases with levers patch kit and a spare tube, no goo in my tool kit.

[tri boy]

no goo in my tool kit.

Unless I have dry humped the back of your pig:buggerd:

[NordieBoy]

The ability to read has not passed me but thanks for pointing that out.
Re Tru Blu Goop....I can only state what a couple of dozen adventure riders have told me of their personal experiences.
If I meet them again I'll point out just how wrong they are

I used True Blue for a while ('till the tube ran out). Was a bugger to get in the tube. If I was more prone to flats, or had tubeless, I might use it more.

Had a couple of nail in tyre incidents whilst using the goop and the first one held air nicely. The second didn't.

[NordieBoy]

Don't ride with Oscar, or a bird called Pooey. They attract flat tyres.:killingme

Pooey and I did the North Island Invasion of the South and none of the posse got flats.

Sounds like it's Oscar.

[Eddieb]

Pooey and I did the North Island Invasion of the South and none of the posse got flats.

Sounds like it's Oscar.

I've ridden with Pooey on another group ride and I think Andy Mac got a flat.

The last ride I did that Oscar was also on Pablo got a flat on his G650X.

Tied at one all I think.

[fridayflash]

The ability to read has not passed me but thanks for pointing that out.
Re Tru Blu Goop....I can only state what a couple of dozen adventure riders have told me of their personal experiences.
If I meet them again I'll point out just how wrong they are

seriously....youve spoken to 24 individual adv riders who all use and sang the praises of blue goop?

[DMNTD]

seriously....youve spoken to 24 individual adv riders who all use and sang the praises of blue goop?

Correct...possibly a few more. Specifically that Tru Blu stuff.