Oh... NOW I get it!

[vifferman]

Summat has been bothering me for a wee whiles now. Every so often, I'll be riding along, enjoying being a biker, when I'll see a bike headlight in the rear mirror. This causes pleasant anticipation at the thought of seeing a fellow biker, exchanging nods, maybe having a quick helmet-garbled chat at the next stop sign / traffic light, etc. But almost invariably, what happens instead is that the biker obviously notices there's another biker ahead, as there's a noticeable increase in the rate at which the bike approaches, then having caught up, the biker races off at the first available opportunity. :spudwhat: :unsure:

Last night, it happened again: a YamaKawazuki 250 (I think) catches up to me at the Stafford Rd offramp, then he's all over the rear of my bike, before racing up the inside of the line of traffic and off into the distance. Then the penny dropped: penile inadequacy. He / it had to get past me as quickly as possible before someone noticed he / it had a very, very small member.

I don't have this problem. But even if I did, my bike is big enough that it is more than compensatory. :yes:

Here's a tip to anyone else out there who does this:
It doesn't prove anything.

If I'm not racing you, it's not a race, so you didn't win anything. And even if I do seem to be taking up the gauntlet thrown down, it still doesn't prove anything, except that I've chosen to be as big an idiot as you. The road is not a racetrack, it's not a level playing field, and racing games are pointless (apart from the points you might get if caught being stupid :weird: And I've already got enough of those).

Maybe I should just get a big flashing sign made up that says:
"My dick is BIG enough", or
"Give up already! My dick is bigger than yours, so I'm not interested in racing you!"

And to Mr YamaKawaZuki 250 I say this: "Dude, get yourself some decent gear to replace your jeans and sneakers, and stop treating the road as a racetrack. Even if you don't get nearly dead soon, you're giving bikers a bad reputation."

[zadok]

Well said there Vif. :clap:

[hondacmx450]

hahhahaahahahaahahhahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahaahahahahahaahahahahah pitty he did not fall off and skin his knee his mom would be mad at him hahahahaahahahah

[placidfemme]

I agree well said... Thing that gets me is that I get people on bigger bikes doing that to me... I'm like "what ya proving? Your bikes bigger than mine anyway... twat"

[Sniper]

I've been there once but was put in my place by another rider (Stevo Cough cough) so I dont plan on doing it again

[outlawtorn]

couldn't agree more Vifferman, well said....

[bugjuice]

I think they call it 'natural selection'.. shame it'll carry the rep of decent bikers with it..

[unhingedlizard]

i hate it too. You see another biker and he completely fucking ignores you. Twats.

[Str8 Jacket]

Yea, I get this all the time. Quite frankly I piss myself laughing everytime it happens, I mean what a winner - Yay, you beat a "L" plater on a GN250, bet you feel cool. Wanker.

[Flyingpony]

When I happen to catch up with a bigger cc'd bike and they're not filtering or speeding, actually staying behind them is a good learning experience. It's nice to ride behind somebody else and trying to learn from his or her wisdom and mistakes :yes:

The last big cc'd biker followed reminded me of a tip already known. When flipping up visor with left hand, don't drift to the left under brakes on a wet road. This Kawa V-Twin HD styled bike with its big fat tyres had a good old slip and slide experience when they hit the massive white paint arrow :nono:

Also like it when I'm followed by a bigger cc'd bike, good for learning road position and following distances unfortunately none of them have stopped me to correct any mistakes made :no:

Thinking of joining one of these Chch slow self paced rides and hopefully getting some negative and positive feedback from the other riders. Only concern is might be told to go home since I'm not fully kitted up for 100km zones. Shops, when you've having your at least 50% off sales :wait:

[skidz]

Yeah, well said Vif, as with having an HD, I tend to get a bit of this as well. I like cruising around the 120 mark and then some Japper comes up, slows for a sec, then just blats off without a wave. People think Harley owners are ignorant, they want to have a look at themselves. I wave to every bike out there, be it road or trail bikes.

[sAsLEX]

a YamaKawazuki 250

typical attitude of a non Honda rider

[vifferman]

I wave to every bike out there, be it road or trail bikes.
Good for you. :niceone:
What about scooters? I've given up on those myself - complete waste of time waving to them because they are either snobs (especially around Ponsonby) or just don't get the whole biking thing.

[vifferman]

... that most bikers are individuals, if not outright loners, apart from those that ride bikes just to be "gangster outlaw wannabes" or hoons ('looners').

I'm beginning to wonder too about the "250 thang" - I had one guy on a GN250 this morning desparately trying to get away from me on the bridge (unless he was just in a hurry to get to work) and another guy on a 250 Hornet not-quite-so-desparately trying to get past me. Perhaps I should just chuck an L-plate on the bike so these guys don't feel intimidated by my power and manliness :rofl: .

Oh dear, I'm such a scream...:blink: :crazy: :eek5:

[Eurygnomes]

I haven't had any biking company going the same direction as me that I haven't asked for (Sels1 and DarkLord). So I can't say as I've had anything like the same experiences as you guys. But I'm little-miss-friendly on the road...have started waving at people not just nodding (I'm guessing some people think that the winds moving your head slightly - so they don't know whether to respond) provided I'm in a bit of road that doesn't do anything surprising. I get a good nod response from one guy I see each day - but the three scooter riders are too busy worrying whether their latte will be cold when they reach town to bother with a handwave. And they're on 'automatics'!!! :)

I think it's probably time I learnt/heard what I was doing wrong - and hopefully had something on the opposite side of the page to balance that too. I'm not as freaked out by everything as I was (hands and feet are actually responding in coordinated manner...yay!) so I can start to take the finer points on board now! :) Maybe...

[Str8 Jacket]

I think it's probably time I learnt/heard what I was doing wrong - and hopefully had something on the opposite side of the page to balance that too. I'm not as freaked out by everything as I was (hands and feet are actually responding in coordinated manner...yay!) so I can start to take the finer points on board now! :) Maybe...

Yea, you make an extremely good point. I feel pretty comfortable out there too, haven't stalled at any intersections and changing gears is almost second nature. But I know I have soo much to learn, but no one to tell me . . . It worries me that I may be developing "bad" habits that'll take forever to change!

[Ixion]

I agree well said... Thing that gets me is that I get people on bigger bikes doing that to me... I'm like "what ya proving? Your bikes bigger than mine anyway... twat"

Guess they're proving they've got a bigger dick than you :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :devil2:

EDIT: Or, on second thoughts maybe not ! :killingme

[Ixion]

..
Thinking of joining one of these Chch slow self paced rides and hopefully getting some negative and positive feedback from the other riders. ..

What they ? Sound like a good idea .

[Waylander]

i hate it too. You see another biker and he completely fucking ignores you. Twats.
I have a confession to make. Last night as I headed over to Hondacmx450's place I saw a guy on an RF900 behind me. He caught up to me at a light when I slowed downjust before turning. I didn't wave or nod to him. Traffic was mildly heavy and the road was not but gravel so I couldn't take my hands of the bars or my eyes of the road for longer than to check my mirror.:no:

[vifferman]

I think it's probably time I learnt/heard what I was doing wrong - and hopefully had something on the opposite side of the page to balance that too.

know I have soo much to learn, but no one to tell me . . . It worries me that I may be developing "bad" habits that'll take forever to change!
You both probably missed this, but a while back, we had a thread on this, the outcome being that people (like your goodly selveses) said they needed mentors/buddies to ride with them and comment on their riding, and I think we had some kindly peoples volunteer to do that. There's always someone to help, and I'm sure if you go on some of the rides and ask (preferably) beforehand for someone to help you like this, someone will. (Won't you, someones? :spudwhat: )

I'm happy to help with stuff like this, but I'm aware too that I'm always saying I'll help with stuff, attend rides, etc., and family stuff (or just overwhelming torpitude) comes up to prevent me doing so.

[skidz]

Good for you. :niceone:
What about scooters? I've given up on those myself - complete waste of time waving to them because they are either snobs (especially around Ponsonby) or just don't get the whole biking thing.
I think that on a scooter you have to hang on to both handles or it'll go anywhere. Only rode one when I was under the influence and never again. They are a handfull.

[kasper]

Not true once you get used to them you can do what you need to.

Used to delvier pizzas on scooters and regualrly spend mamny a km eating pizza and riding.

[FROSTY]

I can see ya point viffer.I must say on my daily commute that I'm often finding myself with the shoe on the other foot.
I've slowed down heaps after thinking things through.Even so I'm often held up by slower bikes.Its not a matter of being ignorant just that dealing with rush hour motorway traffic takes all my concentration -let alone waving to a fellow biker.
all this happeniing at speeds under 80km/h

[dhunt]

Personally I hardly ever see any bikers down this direction going the same way I'm going. Very occassionally I catch up to a bike out of town and if they go around about the same speed I was going +- 5-10km then I'll follow them until one of us turns off.

[myvice]

I often catch others on my way to and fro.
Always wave as I pass them (left hand at about knee height) or as they pass me, don’t care if people pass, why would I?
Also wave to cars that move over, ambulances, scooters, any one in a St Johns marked car/van, Harley riders, kids (always wave at kids caus it will make them want a bike when there older)
I would like to be a mentor BUT...
I have only about 15 years on road experience.
I have LOTS of bad habits that have taken 15 years to perfect and I don’t want to give them up. :devil2:
I am the LAST person who should teach anyone, anything about road safety (I have been known to lane split in cars)
Always keen for a ride tho... :love:

[gav]

OK then, do you get nervous if another bikes catches you and sits behind you for a while? Do you speed up, or wave them past? Do you try and stick with them if/when they pass you? This is more on the open road, i guess....

[SPman]

OK then, do you get nervous if another bikes catches you and sits behind you for a while? Do you speed up, or wave them past? Do you try and stick with them if/when they pass you? This is more on the open road, i guess....

Hmm - on the Paekak hill road on Saturday - GSXR snuck up behind - thought - local - probably knows road - new road to me - carrying 25KG of pack stuff - so - wave him past then try to sit behind him.
Shit thats a fun road when its dry - never done it before! :ride:

[unhingedlizard]

i did that road in a 1.5 FWD once. Tyres were squeling every corner. Also managed to cook the work vans tryes on it. Yes its a bloody fun road.

[scumdog]

Guess they're proving they've got a bigger dick than you :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :devil2:

EDIT: Or, on second thoughts maybe not ! :killingme

OOH-ERRRH!! I've a 1200cc bike and you should see how much bigger my apendage is than my mates who only owns a 250cc bike!!!!

[FROSTY]

i did that road in a 1.5 FWD once. Tyres were squeling every corner. Also managed to cook the work vans tryes on it. Yes its a bloody fun road.

GUYS GUYS GUYS--WEVE FOUND HIM--THAT FUCKING 4X4 DRIVER
-Whose got the tar--ill find the feathers :devil2: :devil2:

[Pathos]

Never have passed a bike and I would only do so if they were really slow out of courtesy. I pass cars because they have to slow down so much in the corners.

Too many people pass just for the sake of it, I only do so if there is a point and leave plenty of room to pass me if they are that way inclined.

[vifferman]

OK then, do you get nervous if another bikes catches you and sits behind you for a while? Do you speed up, or wave them past? Do you try and stick with them if/when they pass you? This is more on the open road, i guess....
I find it rather distracting, being conscious of them following me, and wondering whether they're going to stick behind me, pass, or what. Generally, I just try to ignore them, but if I'm going slowish, I move over to let them past.

[unhingedlizard]

Too many people pass just for the sake of it, .


God isnt that the truth. I was in a car once with a friend who was overtaking in an overtaking lane, had three cars infront of him at the 200m mark, so he accelerated (was already doing 110-120), only just got infront of them before having to break very very hard for the next corner. I asked him was the reward worth the risk. He looked at me blankly and i said, "the reward is that you are 15 seconds ahead of where you were a minute ago, the risk is that you would not make the next corner, or one of the cars you were overtaking decides to be a dick and accelerate and you wipe out the three of us." He looked at me blankly. Didnt even think about it just overtook because there were people infront of him.