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Hitcher
18th March 2012, 13:27
It's a hard road finding the perfect tyre and it's a place I haven't been for a while.

A new chapter has started, with the recent fitment of a set of Conti Road Attack 2 GTs. http://bit.ly/A4vLxr

Basically these are Road Attack 2s that have been enhanced for heavier bikes. There's not a lot of review material published on these yet, although contributors to BMW and FJR forums who've fitted these seem to like them.

I'm learning that apart from Bridgestone sports tourers (universally bad tyres on any bike), it's hard to compare tyre models between bike models. I have just learned that with my last set of rubber: a set of Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmarts. The GSX1250FA was largely done with the rear after 4,500km. That's well short of the 10,000km I believe any credible sports touring tyre should offer as a minimum, and disappointing after how well they performed on an FJR1300T. It's also disappointing after the promise they offered in terms of handling and rideability on the Suzuki, which was quite outstanding.

So why the choice of Contis, Hitcher?

This is my fifth flirtation with Continental motorcycle tyres.

My first two encounters were sets of Road Attacks on an ST1300 and an FJR1300. I never recorded the mileage travelled on either occasion, but the ST and FJR ate the sides off the rear. They luffed the tread up magnificently and then buffed it off. Yuck. Big torquey bikes can be quite unforgiving of tyre construction that may work well on lighter Newton-metre-deprived machinery.

My third set was a set of Conti Motions on an Aprilia ST750 Shiver. Absolute and utter crap. Ambiguous handling at best in the dry and La La Land, Looney Tunes handling in the wet. I rode these in a wet and windy 2009 Grand Challenge which was edifying, and the ride home afterwards in torrentially wet weather was positively terrifying. Any hint whatsoever of moisture anywhere near the road surface induced epilepsy in the tyres. The Motions were cheap and highlighted to me the dangers of buying on price.

After a cooling off period, and a bit of online research, I was persuaded to fit a set of Road Attack 2s to the Shiver. A 120/70 on the front and a 190/50 on the rear. Absolute magic. I wrote these up back in the day http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/126234-ContiRoad-Attack-2-First-impressions. They were good enough to let me forgive a tyre manufacturer I had largely written off. I never rode these tyres to a normal conclusion, as they were part of the 16 October 2010 package deal.

The Road Attack 2s were just outstanding on the Shiver in wet, dry, scrunchy, and smooth conditions. Now with the promise of a construction that suits a heavier steed, I am giving Mr Continental a fifth opportunity to positively rock my world.

300km ridden so far and they are heading in the right direction. Dry road handling only, with a bit of two-up included. Mrs H says as a pillion they feel "really planted".

They steer well. That's a big plus for the GSX1250FA that needs all the help it can get in that department. Very predictable, sharp but not super quick, and with a nice smooth transition around their radius of curvature. In the dry they feel no sign of letting go. That trait makes me very happy, unlike Nicky Minaj. Braking is good. They're quiet and quite plush bouncing over cats-eyes and other similar road impediments.

I'd score them well: At least a 9 on the Hitcher scale (no wet road assessment yet in that score). But as is always the case, the final Hitcher Assessment Score is based on both performance and longevity. Watch this thread for updates as the Conti Road Attack 2 GT saga unfolds.

mossy1200
18th March 2012, 13:42
Nice write up ill have the sport attack 2s on bike next weekend so ill try let you know how they go also.

KoroJ
18th March 2012, 15:18
I had heard that Mr Conti had tried to rectify his poor form for the Road Attacks on the bigger tourers with this offering.

The OEM Battlax 020's now have 11,000Km on them so I guess I'm not far off a search for something that will perform like the Storms of old!! At this stage I'd almost be inclined to put 020's back on as they're performing well..... but..... I don't have great faith to push them too much.

I eagerly await further updates.

Blackbird
18th March 2012, 15:26
I had heard that Mr Conti had tried to rectify his poor form for the Road Attacks on the bigger tourers with this offering.

The OEM Battlax 020's now have 11,000Km on them so I guess I'm not far off a search for something that will perform like the Storms of old!! At this stage I'd almost be inclined to put 020's back on as they're performing well..... but..... I don't have great faith to push them too much.

I eagerly await further updates.

Philip McDaid, IAM Chief Examiner recently put Michelin PR3's on his ST1300 (B spec on rear) ahead of a trip from Auckland to Christchurch. He returned raving about them, especially as he was heading south in the recent weather bomb! That mirrors my own experience with them, albeit on a lighter bike.

James Deuce
18th March 2012, 15:56
Poor suspension action is eating your tyres, I'd suggest.

Hitcher
1st April 2012, 17:58
1,000km on these puppies now. So far, so most excellently good. Here's hoping they know how to wear. I love the grippy, sticky surface they develop after about 2.5km travelled.

If tyre manufacturers continue in this vein, then "scrubbing tyres in" will soon be a practice that riders tell their unbelieving mokopuna about.

Jantar
9th June 2012, 22:04
Any update on how these tyres are performing?

Hitcher
9th June 2012, 22:09
Any update on how these tyres are performing?

About 4,500km on them so far. Unlike their predecessors, they're not worn out at that distance! There's a bit of wear, but what I'd expect for a sports tourer at that distance. No bad habits, wet or dry. The front steers nicely, which has been an issue with other sets I've run on the Claytons Bandit, with the exception of the Road Attacks. The OEM 021s, the Diablo Rossos and the Metzeler Z8s had piggish fronts, of which the Pirellis were worst -- and these things are supposed to be a sports tyre.

Hawkeye
10th June 2012, 07:51
I'm onto my third set of Conti's RI 2's. Just changed the CB about 1000k ago. Find these babies great in both the dry and the wet. Even near the end of their life, I still felt comfortable on them. Commute everyday, no matter what the weather (no cage) so all conditions.
I've also done about 1000k on the Gixxer with quite a bit of that being 2 up in the twisties. Again, they feel great. It's going to be interesting to see how they fare for longevity but if the commuter is anything to go by, which I got over 10,000k out of them, I'll be happy.

Dodgy
11th June 2012, 20:34
My hideous FJ1100 has had a Road Attack on the rear for 9,000km now and has just survived another brassy, still wearing well. The damn front, which is a very old and wooden Michelin Demon is just refusing to die so that I may change it for a Conti as well.

rustic101
11th June 2012, 21:17
What's the price variation between the OEM and Conti's Mr Hicther?
I must be doing something wrong as I trust the Bridgestones and they
seem to preform ok for me even when laying her over or when bimbling round town.
The PR3's on my mates bike also preform well.

Hitcher
12th June 2012, 19:53
What's the price variation between the OEM and Conti's Mr Hicther?


I don't know and I don't care. For a couple of reasons.

One is that experts have recently informed me on this forum that one cannot buy OEM tyres unless one desperately pleads with an importer. Apparently the tyres that a manufacturer fits to a new motorcycle, apart from having the same name printed on the side, bear little resemblance to those available off the rack. I am still struggling with that knowledge.

Another reason is that Battlaxes, in my several experiences to date with OEM 020s and 021s, are completely shit tyres. I think that the best thing that could befall them would be for them to be placed in a Great Heap(TM) and lovingly set alight. I may be wrong, but charged with completely unsatisfactory riding experiences with 020s and 021s, I am most unlikely to suspect that Mr Bridgestone has done any better with the 023s. If Mr Bridgestone disagrees with me, I may be persuaded to review a set, but not at my expense.

The second reason, combined with the first, leads me to a view that the Battlax off-the-rackers are unlikely to be a superior product to their OEM cousins. Why would they be?

Ocean1
12th June 2012, 20:11
Battlax off-the-rackers are unlikely to be a superior product to their OEM cousins. Why would they be?

Because the customer, (you) pays a premium for them.

Whereas the customer, (Mr Suzuki) pays sweet fuck all.

I'm led to believe that most that've tasted both find OE rubber inferior to the aftermarket alternative. I have, for one.

Hitcher
12th June 2012, 20:28
I'm led to believe that most that've tasted both find OE rubber inferior to the aftermarket alternative. I have, for one.

You're keen. All of my bikes, with the exception of the Shiver, have had OEMs so sub-optimal (all Battlaxes) that I could never be persuaded to run the same tyre as a replacement. If Mr Bridgestone is so keen to sell tyres, then doing an El Cheapo deal with Mr Suzuki may initially may sell some tyres but is doing fuck all for the reputation of his products.

caspernz
12th June 2012, 20:46
I'm led to believe that most that've tasted both find OE rubber inferior to the aftermarket alternative. I have, for one.

My outlook on OEM rubber is kinda simple, its purpose is to allow you to run the bike in and keep the rims off the ground. THAT'S ALL !

Yeah I know it may be an arrogant point of view, but in the last twenty or so years I've not worn out any OEM tyre on any new bike I've bought...

mouldy
26th June 2012, 17:06
My hideous FJ1100 has had a Road Attack on the rear for 9,000km now and has just survived another brassy, still wearing well. The damn front, which is a very old and wooden Michelin Demon is just refusing to die so that I may change it for a Conti as well.

No it doesn't , they don't make RA2s in Fat Jelly sizes and its probably a Pirelli on the front .