ART at Hampton Downs

[Kiwi Graham]

:yes: We are there on Sunday 20th May :yes:

Running the same rider training format that we run at Pukekohe but now at New Zealand's premier circuit.

Further dates will follow 'next season' too so keep an eye on the AMCC web site.

Entry forms for this will appear on the web site shortly along side our existing tenth anniversary April 22nd entry form (more details for this event to follow shortly)

See you all track side

KG

[BoristheBiter]

Great news.

What sort of prices?

[rapid van cleef]

So, is the ART day in April still at Puke?

and there is an additional day at Hampton in May?

thats great!

thanks

[SPP]

Sweet!!!


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[Filterer]

So is an ART day a trackday? Similar in format to the old Hampton Down Ride Days that have closed down?

[BoristheBiter]

So is an ART day a trackday? Similar in format to the old Hampton Down Ride Days that have closed down?

yes and no.

http://www.amcc.co.nz/advanced-art.

More like CSS.

[Timmeh:P]

HELL YEAH!!! Great news! Will be there! Wooooooooo :woohoo:

[Hellzie]

That has made my day. I am so in with a massive grin. :yes:

[p.dath]

I'm looking forward to it a lot as well.

[Mort]

Good to see new options at Hampton Downs.... :yes:

[dubshack]

yes and no.

http://www.amcc.co.nz/advanced-art.

More like CSS.

This is nothing like CSS.

[BoristheBiter]

This is nothing like CSS.

What? so it is not a training day on the track?

[Gremlin]

What? so it is not a training day on the track?
The AMCC Art days are between a track day and CSS, not quite as highly technical as CSS, but still has a mixture of theory and practical. The riding mentality is certainly not an open track day either.

[BoristheBiter]

The AMCC Art days are between a track day and CSS, not quite as highly technical as CSS, but still has a mixture of theory and practical. The riding mentality is certainly not an open track day either.

As I have done both I know exactly what both entail.
My original post was in response to Filterer asking if this was like the HDRD and also included the link to AMCC.

[Hellzie]

Holy moly, $130 that's cheap as chips! :woohoo:

[rapid van cleef]

Holy moly, $130 that's cheap as chips! :woohoo:

ive just looked on the amcc site. where are the details for the art day at hampton?

thanks

[Hellzie]

ive just looked on the amcc site. where are the details for the art day at hampton?

thanks

Click here (http://www.amcc.org.nz/advanced-art) there is a column on the right with entry forms, and in the entry form it tells you the prices, etc. :woohoo:

[Kiwi Graham]

As expected this day is proving extremely popular!!

We have secured the circuit for a very good rate and have passed this on to you.
Next season will be more expensive!

Get in quick to secure your spot, the entry form is on the AMCC web site and already filling fast.
Please take note of the earlier start time so it is vitally important you turn up early and get yourselves signed on, gear checked and bike scrutineered prior to the track walk that starts at 8:15.

I suggest you are at the circuit and set up by 7am ready to do all the above.

See you all track side

KG

[sil3nt]

Textile gear allowed? (I do have leathers just curious..could get the girlfriend wizzing around on the 250 in her textiles)

Can you move up a group during the day? Never been to a track day but without wanting to sound cocky I wouldn't imagine Group 1 would be suitable for all that long.

[Sharry]

Goody Gum Drops :woohoo: I have never riden on HD before so this is fab to have at $130. I have paid and emailed Colleen today :2thumbsup

[Kiwi Graham]

Textile gear allowed? (I do have leathers just curious..could get the girlfriend wizzing around on the 250 in her textiles)

Can you move up a group during the day? Never been to a track day but without wanting to sound cocky I wouldn't imagine Group 1 would be suitable for all that long.

Hi,
Yes Textile gear in Groups 1 & 2 leather recommended in 3 and compulsory in 4 one piece or zip together. You can move up or down between groups if there is room at your request with the recommendation of your instructor.

[Grant`]

Looking forward to this as well just sorting out my sheet to attend.

[Ntoxcated]

Textile gear allowed? (I do have leathers just curious..could get the girlfriend wizzing around on the 250 in her textiles)

Can you move up a group during the day? Never been to a track day but without wanting to sound cocky I wouldn't imagine Group 1 would be suitable for all that long.


Hi,
Yes Textile gear in Groups 1 & 2 leather recommended in 3 and compulsory in 4 one piece or zip together. You can move up or down between groups if there is room at your request with the recommendation of your instructor.

Also, don't forget the back protector (rigid - not just the soft foam insert). Compulsory in all groups.

[JamesRoberts]

So any other requirements? It'll be my first ART day, ive got a two piece suit but will need to pick up a back protector

[Voltaire]

So any other requirements? It'll be my first ART day, ive got a two piece suit but will need to pick up a back protector

Known brand approved helmet that fits well, gloves, boots, leathers, back protector pretty much covers it. Mirrors taped or removed and speedo taped.
Don't forget to get there early for scrutineering and gear check.
I was in group 1 the last three sessions, great fun. You'll have a blast.

[The Singing Chef]

So any other requirements? It'll be my first ART day, ive got a two piece suit but will need to pick up a back protector

http://throughtheeyesofarider.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/what-do-you-need-for-a-track-day/

[JamesRoberts]

Cheers guys looking forward to it

[MaxCannon]

Just faxed in my entry. Hopefully I've snapped up one of the last places in Group 3

[Grant`]

Just faxed in my entry. Hopefully I've snapped up one of the last places in Group 3

Didn't sound to positive last night at the end of the Puke day for any further entries coming in. You might be a little bit to late. :(

[MaxCannon]

Didn't sound to positive last night at the end of the Puke day for any further entries coming in. You might be a little bit to late. :(

Hmm - well if I miss out I've only myself to blame. Fingers crossed there is a place for me. Haven't been to the track since last October.

[angelindisguise]

Hi as far as i know, there are still plenty of places left. the only group that is officially full is group 2.

cheers

[SPP]

Wow popular, all sold out
http://www.amcc.org.nz/advanced-art

[R-Soul]

I am in - woo hoo!
Cant wait....

Never been on HD before - cool!


Anybody planning on riding down together from the North Shore?

[p.dath]

Did they send an email out letting you know?

[R-Soul]

Did they send an email out letting you know?

Not yet - why?

[Timmeh:P]

I am confirmed!! Got the email today! :Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk:

[Grant`]

I am confirmed!! Got the email today! :Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk:

Yeah I got mine also!

[R-Soul]

Me too! Yesssss!

[R-Soul]

Anybody riding down from the North Shore?

7:15am at HD means leaving North Shore at ?? eish!

maybe 6:15??? how long does it take to get there?

[p.dath]

Anybody riding down from the North Shore?

7:15am at HD means leaving North Shore at ?? eish!

maybe 6:15??? how long does it take to get there?

We'll get there in 90 minutes from the Shore. So leaving at about 6am would be about right, and get there about 7:30AM.

We could leave from CycleTreads.

[BoristheBiter]

We'll get there in 90 minutes from the Shore. So leaving at about 6am would be about right, and get there about 7:30AM.

We could leave from CycleTreads.

WTF? what will you be riding? Its only a hour from the mobile, Oteha Valley road. about 90km.

Add 10min for filling up at Mercer.

[p.dath]

WTF? what will you be riding? Its only a hour from the mobile, Oteha Valley road. about 90km.

Add 10min for filling up at Mercer.

So if you travelled at 90Km/h, that would make it take 1 hour? Ok, so maybe it'll take us 50 to 55 minutes, unless anyone stops for petrol (and I'll be wanting to fill up before going onto the track).

Speaking of that, where is the closest service station to Hampton Downs from the Auckland side? I may need to re-fuel during the day this time.

[BoristheBiter]

So if you travelled at 90Km/h, that would make it take 1 hour? Ok, so maybe it'll take us 50 to 55 minutes, unless anyone stops for petrol (and I'll be wanting to fill up before going onto the track).

Speaking of that, where is the closest service station to Hampton Downs from the Auckland side? I may need to re-fuel during the day this time.

Mercer gas station is the closest, about 10 km from track.
Or find someone that is going down with a car and stick a petrol can in.

[Gremlin]

Speaking of that, where is the closest service station to Hampton Downs from the Auckland side? I may need to re-fuel during the day this time.
Mercer (as above) is the closest, but if the bike is all taped up, then not really legal to ride there, unless you make it legal. There was gas there previously, but not sure if it was HDRD or the track. May pay to check? Even ask AMCC

[p.dath]

Mercer (as above) is the closest, but if the bike is all taped up, then not really legal to ride there, unless you make it legal. There was gas there previously, but not sure if it was HDRD or the track. May pay to check? Even ask AMCC

Do you know if Mercer is open that early (like 7am/8am)?

[SPP]

Do you know if Mercer is open that early (like 7am/8am)?

Mobil Mercer is 24hr

[BoristheBiter]

Do you know if Mercer is open that early (like 7am/8am)?

bet me to it

[Grant`]

I may need to re-fuel during the day this time.

I will have a 20 litre fuel can with me, and as I will fill my tank up prior to arriving (Bike on Trailer) I will only require a top up towards the end,so happy to share with you save you having to go to servo later on if you like.

[p.dath]

Mobil Mercer is 24hr


bet me to it

Hmm, about a 30 to 40 minute round trip from Hampton's - ahh but we can go under the track at Hampton's so no having to worry about waiting for a track closure.

[p.dath]

I will have a 20 litre fuel can with me, and as I will fill my tank up prior to arriving (Bike on Trailer) I will only require a top up towards the end,so happy to share with you save you having to go to servo later on if you like.

Thanks for the offer. I'll keep it in mind. :)

[SPP]

Hmm, about a 30 to 40 minute round trip from Hampton's - ahh but we can go under the track at Hampton's so no having to worry about waiting for a track closure.

Yeah, plenty of time.

[Mort]

Just got a email about a noise limit for this event:


Due to recent pressure to reduce the noise of motorsport to the legal 95dBA limit, noise monitoring from a calibrated dBA meter will be used and enforced at this meeting.
· A machine in excess of 100dBA will be immediately removed from the circuit and will take no part in the event.
· A machine in excess of 95dBA will be given one opportunity to reduce there exhaust to below this threshold. If it fails a second time it will be excluded from the event.
· Please do not try to silence with steel wool pads they disintegrate and blow out causing a serious hazard. Consider inserting a noise reducing baffle or plate to the muffler and securing it properly.


I must say I'd be pretty pissed off if I was kicked off the event because my bike failed this ... There must be many who don't know if their bike passes the 95db limit

[p.dath]

Just got a email about a noise limit for this event:



I must say I'd be pretty pissed off if I was kicked off the event because my bike failed this ... There must be many who don't know if their bike passes the 95db limit

This subject has been done to death. There is no way you can tell if you bike will or will not pass the test, unless it is excessively over all ready. You can pass the test in the morning, have a change in cloud cover, and fail in the afternoon.

[Mort]

This subject has been done to death. There is no way you can tell if you bike will or will not pass the test, unless it is excessively over all ready. You can pass the test in the morning, have a change in cloud cover, and fail in the afternoon.

Where ? When ? Never been tested at Hampton Downs ever..... I can see its in the small print from AMCC ART entry form but I only saw that because of the email....

[p.dath]

Where ? When ? Never been tested at Hampton Downs ever..... I can see its in the small print from AMCC ART entry form but I only saw that because of the email....

It's been done to death here in the more racing orientated forums. It's not just a HD issue, it affects all MNZ sanctioned events.

And you say you've never been tested? If you've been recently you would have been ... the testing is done along side the track as motorcycles race by - not standing beside the motorbike - which is why you can't tell if you'll pass till you actualy go past. You could go past the test point 50 times, and then fail the 51st time.
Pretty much all tracks for road orientated bikes in NZ now have a testing regime.

And unless your in the top group, you probably have nothing to worry about. :)

[Mort]

OK - just never heard it even mentioned at any trackday or CSS event before.... Guess we'll be fine then. Cheers :Punk:

[p.dath]

Just looking at the weather forecast:
http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/New-Zealand/Hampton-Downs-Motorsport-Park.aspx?sday=2
I think we should be fine.

Note that it is saying the temperature will only be 5 degrees at 6am! So take plenty of warm clothes to begin with (I think I'm going to wear my codura jacket over my leathers for the ride down). By 9am it will only be 12 degrees. I think I might run my tyres a little lower on pressure than normal, as it's going to be hard to get any temperature into road tyres (like I have). I got a feeling we are going to have more trouble in the first couple of laps for each round due to the much colder track temperatures (I hope everyone takes extra care).

The goods news is the forecast is saying it is going to be sunny from 9am to 3/5pm. Yay!

And the only other interesting bit is the 70% cloud cover for most of the day. That spells noise problems!

[R-Soul]

OK so to finalise times and dates:

We are meeting at 6:00am for 6:15am leave at Cycletreads, to get there at around 7:15 after a fill at Mercer.

Any objections?
Who will be there?

I will be there with a mate.

[p.dath]

OK so to finalise times and dates:

We are meeting at 6:00am for 6:15am leave at Cycletreads, to get there at around 7:15 after a fill at Mercer.

Any objections?
Who will be there?

I will be there with a mate.

I will be there.

[Devil]

OK - just never heard it even mentioned at any trackday or CSS event before.... Guess we'll be fine then. Cheers :Punk:

Coz its an MNZ problem. We're not affiliated with MNZ and aren't subject to their rules.

[p.dath]

Coz its an MNZ problem. We're not affiliated with MNZ and aren't subject to their rules.

It's a Waiakato Council By-Law, and it applies to the track, regardless to who uses it. MNZ justs takes a more active position in the hope that it will prevent the need for council to take stronger action - such as what happened at Western Springs.

[p.dath]

I had a great day, so thanks to everyone for organising it.

It's quite a different track to Pukekoke. More difficult.

[chasio]

I had a great day, so thanks to everyone for organising it.

It's quite a different track to Pukekoke. More difficult.

It's easier to spell, though... :)

Anyone got any idea where I can find some video of me weaving my wheezy way down the start/finish straight? The Freewind was moving around all over the shop flat out in top, enough for at least one other rider to notice it, so I need to figure out what's up with it. Would love to see some video because it felt pretty bad.

[R-Soul]

Thanks to all the marshalls and orgnisers and everybody that made the day possible - it was awesome. I had a great time, and I think I learnt a lot too. I got some good vid of group 3, and will post a link to Youtube soon as I have uploaded it.

I agree with you p.dath - it is avery different track - much scarier in some respects. But that is what teaches you the most.

[R-Soul]

Now we wait for the photos to come out.

[p.dath]

How big is the drop in turn 5 (the left hand dropping hair pin style turn before the big sweeper)?

[The Singing Chef]

How big is the drop in turn 5 (the left hand dropping hair pin style turn before the big sweeper)?

8 meters I was told.

[p.dath]

8 meters I was told.

I heard that, but it doesn't sound right. That's the height of a 3 story building? 8 foot maybe?

[The Singing Chef]

I heard that, but it doesn't sound right. That's the height of a 3 story building? 8 foot maybe?

I think you may be right, trying to imagine the height difference in my head and it didn't seem to be 8 metres.

[Gremlin]

I heard that, but it doesn't sound right. That's the height of a 3 story building? 8 foot maybe?
No way... deceptive when you're on a bike, but when you stand at the bottom, it's several humans high... :yes:

[yachtie10]

easily 8 metres but not all in the corner its downhill for a while before you turn in

[Voltaire]

Awesome day, I got a lot out of the wet sessions...I now believe how well tyres can grip. HD suits my old BMW much better than Puke. That hairpin is tricky....my SR was saying brake but brain was saying throttle :woohoo:

[Devil]

It's a 7 meter drop from the crest to the equivalent point on the exit, I believe.

So, how many people just went for a track day?

[Mort]

So, how many people just went for a track day?

Hard to say... Me & my son just went to ride... good to see plenty of riders who had never ridden there before... The day was very well run too. Groups 1,2,3 were full. Group 4 (Fast) wasnt full from the looks of it.... 4 sessions wasn't quite enough though :(

A really nice day though and many thanks to AMCC for putting it on. I think it was very successful and I look forward to more.... :yes:

[The Singing Chef]

It's a 7 meter drop from the crest to the equivalent point on the exit, I believe.

So, how many people just went for a track day?

I usually go just for the track time with Instructors, though it's more about being supervised in G3 I guess.

[Hellzie]

I heard that, but it doesn't sound right. That's the height of a 3 story building? 8 foot maybe?

Sorry, slightly off topic but....

The architect in me had to say it, 8m would only really be a 2 storey building - 3m each floor and another 2m for the roof. you could MAYBE squeeze 3 storeys into it with a flat roof, but it wouldn't be pretty.

[Timmeh:P]

I have the Digital Terrain information sitting right in front of me, (as I am working on something for Hampton Downs) and it is (give or take 0.25m):

7.25m

From the top of the crest before the corner to the apex (ish) is around 4m drop then to the straight it drops another 3m over 100m distance.

Of course this would vary slightly depending on if I measure the outside of the corner or the inside.

[Hellzie]

I have the Digital Terrain information sitting right in front of me, (as I am working on something for Hampton Downs) and it is (give or take 0.25m):

7.25m

From the top of the crest before the corner to the apex (ish) is around 4m drop then to the straight it drops another 3m over 100m distance.

Of course this would vary slightly depending on if I measure the outside of the corner or the inside.

:love:

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[sil3nt]

I have the Digital Terrain information sitting right in front of me, (as I am working on something for Hampton Downs) and it is (give or take 0.25m):

7.25m

From the top of the crest before the corner to the apex (ish) is around 4m drop then to the straight it drops another 3m over 100m distance.

Of course this would vary slightly depending on if I measure the outside of the corner or the inside.Should accidently release this terrain info so we can get a sweet replica in game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVnraudlnE4 :whistle:

[R-Soul]

I just uploaded my video of group 3. Best look before it gets taken down for copyright infringement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwscu9x53Jw&feature=share