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Matariki
20th March 2012, 06:53
Recently I've been having a bit of fun with my motorcycle, replacing things here and there. However I don't really have much of a tool kit, I been mainly been using my fathers hardware tools, however I would like to get a tool kit specified for motorcycle maintenance (or make my own up). Any suggestions for what sort of tools I should get or any pre-made kits out there worth looking at?

unstuck
20th March 2012, 07:14
Whatever tools you buy, make sure they are quality. Cheap tools often end up making the job harder and more frustrating. Start with the basics, socket set, spanners(open and ring) and screw drivers. An impact driver is a good tool to have also if its an older bike.:woohoo:

unstuck
20th March 2012, 07:17
http://www.powerbuilttools.co.nz/powerbuiltproducts.htm Have a look on here too, Powerbuilt are reasonable quality and price,IMO.:yes:

Matariki
20th March 2012, 07:38
http://www.powerbuilttools.co.nz/powerbuiltproducts.htm Have a look on here too, Powerbuilt are reasonable quality and price,IMO.:yes:

I like their kits, any of those you would suggest?

Flip
20th March 2012, 08:21
The first picture is what I cary in the old vintage side car.

The second and third is what is in the Harley, I swapped the larger socket set for the micro one and I always carry the wee tin of nuts and bolts.

You can buy a budget set of open ender-ring spanners for a few dollars from super cheap. Cheap cresents are a bit of a pain. A wee 1/4" socket set is very usefull. A multi meter and a small tin of nuts and bolts is very usefull. Some thing to fix a flat tyre with is very usefull. A long nosed vice grip has been very usefill in the past and has been used as a brake lever and also as plyers.

Gremlin
20th March 2012, 09:50
There is a few ways of doing it, and also depending how serious you want to go.

You can start by buying what you need, as you need it, and slowly build up as you go, or spend more upfront, buying a big set. The big sets (if you spend $200-400, stuff offered at Repco or SuperCheap for example) aren't the greatest quality, but then you're not a professional mechanic either, using them all day every day, and it's good to get you started. Then buy more specialised tools as you need them.

You also need to think about what you want to carry when on rides (puncture repair kit definitely recommended). The best trick there is to only use the bike kit when doing general maintenance, and that way you'll find out what you need to take... nothing worse than not having a certain spanner or bit for an obvious part :sweatdrop

unstuck
20th March 2012, 10:09
http://www.justtools.com.au/prod2342.htm I keep one of these Bahco sets in my truck, along with a decent set of screwdrivers. Bloody good set.:yes:

HenryDorsetCase
20th March 2012, 10:19
That Bahco stuff is very good value for money IMO. Ive got a couple of their socket sets and some of their other stuff. Also Powerbuilt and Sidchrome.

I find one of those little magnetic pickup tools very useful (I am a klutz)

Bassmatt
20th March 2012, 13:12
http://www.justtools.com.au/prod2342.htm I keep one of these Bahco sets in my truck, along with a decent set of screwdrivers. Bloody good set.:yes:

I have this its the best "tool" I have ever bought, the sort of thing you wonder why you didnt buy one years ago.

dogsnbikes
20th March 2012, 13:52
Recently I've been having a bit of fun with my motorcycle, replacing things here and there. However I don't really have much of a tool kit, I been mainly been using my fathers hardware tools, however I would like to get a tool kit specified for motorcycle maintenance (or make my own up). Any suggestions for what sort of tools I should get or any pre-made kits out there worth looking at?

If you want this for home,start of with a good socket set and a good set of screw-drivers

Consider what you are happy doing yourself,as you have already mentioned you use dad's tools so make a list of tools which you already use and see how that compares to a ready made kit

I have a Bahco socket set and it worth every penny its cost me approx $220 5 years ago
It contains ring/open ended spanners some hex key and torx key attachments as well as sockets both 1/2 inch and 1/4 inch also you will fine having a strong bar handy I find 450mm long enough on bikes and if your looking at doing repairs look at a small and midrange torque wrenches

a Kingchrome screw-driver set was about $100....,

Also consider hex keys,deep plug sockets powerbuilt have a good one starting at 12mm up to 24mm any size above that you will need to buy individualy

Hammer's and punchs,pilers both flat and long nose and circlip pilers

A impact driver for those stubbon bolts and nuts

A wire brush and sandpaper....

Cable oiler clamp about $12-$15 at your local bike shop,wire connecters and crimping pilers you can get it as a kit and just top up as required



You don't need too spend mega bucks but if you can buy quality now,it will save you money later

Flip
20th March 2012, 20:00
I have a nice set of double open ender ring spanners, 10-12, 13-14 17-19, with 3 tools I can do most hex headed metric nuts and bolts. These are however very old fasioned tools these days.

I have been known to use a few of those ratchet open enders as well.

pete376403
20th March 2012, 22:12
A Leatherman multitool can come in handy out on the road, perhaps not so important in the workshop.

really cheap shit tools come in handy, too - to lend to other people. Keep the good stuff for your own needs.

psykonosis
21st March 2012, 01:42
I agree with start with the basic tools which include socket set, spanners, screw drivers and some allen keys. If you're a mechanic or want to spend some $$ on your tools I suggest Snap-On tools. Build up your kit as you need them, it would be a shame to see just a bunch of tools collecting dust now ;). Again though, I recommend Snap-on Tools and there is the odd truck around that will provide you with them though they aren't as common in NZ as they are in America. For just general weekend work though there are cheaper options such as the powerbuilt, teng tools and king tony

Flip
21st March 2012, 10:59
The problem with snap-on and stahlwille is they are so fucking expensive the cost makes my eyes water.

I used to get a lot of Elora brand spanners, which I liked. I have never has a problem with powerbuilt brand and over the last few years I have brought quite a few of them. I have left the trade and no longer see the tool van every week at work.

About the only problem I have had with any tools is mostly keeping them and I had a set of Sidchrome open enders that were far too soft and bent the faces open, they were replaced under warranty. There is a cheap set of SCA AF spanners in the landrover and a metric set in the sidecar.

I do like the looks of that set of Bhaco tools, they look like a nice boot-glove box set.

F5 Dave
21st March 2012, 15:16
. . . I recommend Snap-on Tools
You gotta be kidding! ok you did say 'if you're a mechanic', but clearly the OP is not. Even then one can learn that place of work will affect the risk of stuff going missing & whether you need to take out a third mortgage to replace it (the first 2 to procure in the first instance).



If you're not talking toolroll take it with you & mean at home, there is a thread stickied a couple of posts above you by some old plonker who doesn't know shet from clay, but had the inspired idea to start the thread.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/66479-Tools-required-for-a-motorcyclist


(http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/66479-Tools-required-for-a-motorcyclist)
hahaha! just started re-reading it. Note the Snap-on reference only a few lines down.

psykonosis
21st March 2012, 17:42
I never assume that anyone wanting tools couldn't afford snap-on tools, though there are the fair share of people that "cry" at the price. If you can afford it and want them then research into them more I say and find out if they are for you. A mechanic could justify purchasing them as they will be using them everyday, though you could argue that putting those tools in a workshop they could slowly "go missing". Am i right? I still prefer the Snap-On range over the others posted above but it isn't my intention and isn't really the thread to bag the other brands because they are cheaper. I've had a number of the powerbuilt tools and they've been pretty handy over their lifetime as well (even though others have had some not so good experiences) and yeah the whole lot would have cost less than a few of the Snap-On trays. So yeah you can get some decent tools without breaking the bank if you have a budget in mind. Would agree though to not get them really really cheap tools as you end up getting frustrated and ruining your tools and bike. The end result = would have been better to buy a more decent set in the first place.

otter
23rd March 2012, 22:45
Really depends how much you want to spend.

Stay away from the crappy repco tools (mechpro), they're too cheap to be any good, I'm sure supercheap also does some crappy cheap tools.
My new favourite place to get tools from now is actually mitre 10. They mainly stock two brands, Stanley and Fuller for most tools. Stanley are good quality for the money (although people say they used to be awesome quality in past years), Fuller are cheaper and not as nice.
When you're buying tools think about how you will be using them. For example, I paid a lot of money for my vice grips because I use them for getting screws out that have become stuck, they're my last resort so they'd better be good (I really don't want to have to drill out screws).
You will need a good socket set, don't bother with any imperial sizing (SAE), you want metric.
You want at least a 1/4 head socket wrench and 3/8 wrench. The 1/4 is for small sized bolts, 6-12MM say. 3/8 is for larger say, 10-17. Any larger an you may need to get a 1/2 wrench, I've managed to get by without by using a adjustable spanner. I would not recommend that approach, try and find a proper closed end spanner or sockets that fit your axle nuts, you'll fuck them up trying to attack them with an adjustable spanner.
Which brings me to my next point. Spanners, get some Stanley spanners or similar too. You want a set double ended spanners, they should have an open end on one end, and a closed on the other. If you get the really cheap ones they make them quite think which makes them hard to get in some places.
Sockets and spanners come in two types, 6 and 12 points. This refers to the number of points in the head to connect with the bolt. 12 points means that there are twice as many positions to start from. Get 12 points on your closed spanners, you'll thank me when you're getting into tight spaces. 6 is good for sockets because you can ratchet the socket around to where you want it anyway.
Get some screw drivers, I have a Stanley one with interchangeable heads which is fine except when you need something long to go into a tight space (plastic covers that have recessed screws are a good example of this, dedicated screw drivers are preferable here. I should note that flat head screw drivers are not chisels for whatever you feel like attacking, if you must, have an extra sacrificial flathead that you don't use on screws. Don't forget allen keys, screw drivers/bits with allen key are great too.
If you have an older bike will probably have stuck screws that you will munch the heads on trying to get out, get a pair of high quality vice grips (~40$ from mitre 10) I use needle nose myself because it's easier to get in those tight spaces, you shouldn't use them often but when you do you really need them.
Get some WD-40, this is not a real lube and don't you dear use it for that (the oils evaporate rapidly). It's a solvent for releasing rusted and stuck things. Get some side cutters and some more zip ties for those times that you have to remove wiring and cables from their mounts.

PM me if you have any questions, I won't bother checking back.

gatch
25th March 2012, 18:53
If it's for your bike, 1/4 socket set, screwdrivers, a roll of duct tape and a can of wd40. And a cellphone..

If it's for home.. Reasonable quality socket sets in 1/4 and 1/2" drive. Some cheap ratchets will die very quickly, money spent here is an investment. Quality screwdrivers. Combination open end/ring spanners, again quality, rounding off bolts can turn nightmarish. A SOFT face hammer, most people should be banned from hard hammers. Soft gasket scraping tools. Clean funnels and measuring jugs. Also a filter spanner. Either one that attaches to your ratchet, or a chain type vice grip. Rags, plastic gloves and good hand cleaner. Try avoid adjustable spanners as much as possible. Adjustable spanners cause a LOT of damage to all kinds of fasteners.

Buying big sets of tools is easy and convenient, but can get expensive and you can end up with a bunch of crap you will never need or want.

Anything more than these things and chances are the operation you are going to perform will require more skill than the average enthusiast.

HenryDorsetCase
25th March 2012, 19:12
http://www.justtools.com.au/prod2342.htm I keep one of these Bahco sets in my truck, along with a decent set of screwdrivers. Bloody good set.:yes:

I saw that socket set on spesh at Placemakers on Saturday. $169. bargain!

FROSTY
26th March 2012, 15:45
To be honest hotkebab theres darn good advice above. But in my opinion when just starting out buying tools your very best bet is to open up the factory tool kit and see whats there.
Then as a basic starting point replace everything in the set with good quality stuff. Yea later you will likely want the spanner set and the allen key set but I promise you that having two 10mm ring/open enders is a good thing

rustic101
26th March 2012, 16:02
There are only ever two items a rider requires....

Duct tape and CRC

CRC - for things that do not move but should, and

Duct tape - for things that do move but shouldn't.

The Pastor
26th March 2012, 16:31
TIPS,

1. buy cheap, you wont use them often and useally you can replace a tool 2 or 3 times for the price of a good one, and ive never had to replace a tool yet.

2. get a set of deep sockets 8-19mm. <img src='http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/558099_lg.jpg'>

3. get a set of ring end spanners <img src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Spanner_2.jpg'>

4. don't put much force on bolts, be kind to them. always start a bolt by fingers 1st, to prevent cross threading. If you need to undo a really stuck bolt, use a breaker bar <img src='http://www.everyfinehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Breaker-Bar-1.jpg'>

5. don't use adjustable spanners, ever.

6. carry zip ties on the bike.

F5 Dave
26th March 2012, 16:46
There are only ever two items a rider requires....

Duct tape and CRC

CRC - for things that do not move but should, and

Duct tape - for things that do move but shouldn't.
Hilarimouse. And not original, done a few pages back.<_< It wasn't funny then either. [edit, sorry in the other tools thread, - but it still isn't very funny]

F5 Dave
26th March 2012, 16:49
. . .

5. don't use adjustable spanners, ever. . . .

I have a beauty about 2 & 1/2 foot long. Its fantastic. ok, I don't use it very often, but if you need to bend something, having a long lever to carefully apply pressure that also has an adjustable size interface; - well its brilliant!

davebullet
26th March 2012, 16:56
For on the road:

A length of fuel hose (so you can syphon if stuck somewhere or have a fuel leak)
Duct tape (to fix said leak or tape on broken bits from a crash or flappy luggage etc...)
Puncture repair kit

Anything else won't fit or is probably such a major you need a mechanic with a full arsenal

The Pastor
27th March 2012, 10:03
<img src='http://www.usrallyteam.com/images/hbs-m9csh.jpg'>

Those hex key (or allen key) set that fits onto your wrench, have saved my life many times.

gatch
1st April 2012, 18:03
<img src='http://www.usrallyteam.com/images/hbs-m9csh.jpg'>

Those hex key (or allen key) set that fits onto your wrench, have saved my life many times.

Yeah man those are the tits. For those of you who are looking to buy some, get the cast one piece impact version. They will handle much abuse and you can chuck em in a rattle gun if need be and they won't burst the socket part. They only cost a marginal amount more than the standard sort pictured.

GSF
2nd April 2012, 13:17
That Bahco stuff is very good value for money IMO. Ive got a couple of their socket sets and some of their other stuff. Also Powerbuilt and Sidchrome.

I find one of those little magnetic pickup tools very useful (I am a klutz)

Agreed on the Bahco, I have a little $85 Bahco set with a ratchet, selection of sockets and spanners, extensions and a screwdriver & bit set which is small enough to tuck in a backpack and can do pretty much everything on the bike with exception of rear axle nut, steering stem nut etc.

Best little tool set I ever bought!

Old Steve
18th April 2012, 19:57
I carry an adjustable spanner, like OP said above they're handy for straightening bent levers. I like the IREGA brand, nice flat feel to the handle.

I made up a tool roll on my sewing machine once I'd discovered what tools I needed, made a pocket for every different tool. This rolls up and I keep it in my saddle bag. I carry a philips and a large slot screwdriver, a set of ring/open enders from 8 to about 16mm, the adjustable wrench, bundle of cable ties, roll of that new tape Loctite make which can be used on fuel lines, tire gauge, and a multitool like a leatherman. I also carry a block of wood about 200x100x20 mm for placing under the side stand if parking on uncertain ground.

Matariki
2nd May 2012, 00:06
Any opinions on powerbuilt tools?

unstuck
2nd May 2012, 07:58
I have a fair few powerbuilt tools, they are not bad. They would be fine for most home users. :Punk: