2 riders who can't stay in their own lane = what? [Archive]

onearmedbandit

26th March 2012, 18:35

One of the nearest misses you'll ever see. The rider who was passing the car was obviously in the wrong, but the other riders weren't exactly out for a leisurely cruise.

http://www.bikerpunks.com/mediaviewer/3636/inches-from-death.html

Link is work safe.

mossy1200

26th March 2012, 18:41

wonder where he got a orange front tyre from.

Usarka

26th March 2012, 18:43

but the other riders weren't exactly out for a leisurely cruise.

They were riding well enough to react in time to avoid a head on! :sweatdrop

BMWST?

26th March 2012, 18:43

Oakie

26th March 2012, 18:44

wonder where he got a orange front tyre from.

Dunno but I reckon I know where he got his brown undies from.

FJRider

26th March 2012, 18:50

Just like your average weekend in the Buller gorge.

schrodingers cat

26th March 2012, 18:53

at the time of the incident the motard guy was fault free....

And it is possible that the only time on the whole ride the other bloke crossed the line was that corner...

onearmedbandit

26th March 2012, 18:53

at the time of the incident the motard guy was fault free....

As I said in my post...

Muppet

26th March 2012, 19:06

Right OK and if the incident had happened 2 or 3 corners earlier it would have been the fault of the guy on screen, I hope he shat himself!

ducatilover

26th March 2012, 19:09

Fuckin' cage drivers, I think the cage driver made the biker pass (his name would have been Jack Miller) and it was the cars fault.

Don't mention the war

FJRider

26th March 2012, 19:16

ducatilover

26th March 2012, 19:18

Personally ... I blame the camera. If it wasn't on, nobody would see it. It wouldn't be heard of .... It would never happen .... Both parties would be blameless.

When/if you video your own ride often ... odds are your own fuck-ups will be seen. If police saw that vid ... I would say both parties would be charged. Seperate offences though.
Like a mime speaking when a recorder is on? Or a politician talking shit when no-one is meant to be listening?
I have to agree, I'm only a cunt when people can see :yes:

Usarka

26th March 2012, 19:20

Personally ... I blame the camera. If it wasn't on, nobody would see it. It wouldn't be heard of .... It would never happen .... Both parties would be blameless.

That's some quantumn physics shit right there. The act of observing influences the outcome.... :blink:

mossy1200

26th March 2012, 19:20

Near miss and he will watch it over and over but never realise that the corners he cut coulda killed him also if a fast bike was coming the other way at those places he was on the wrong side.maybe it will make him think more about being on the correct side of the road.I think not though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLBHymzs0hU

FJRider

26th March 2012, 19:21

I'm only a cunt when people can see :yes:

I suspected as much .... <_<

Qkchk

26th March 2012, 19:27

wonder where he got a orange front tyre from.

:gob:I reckon its the orange tyres fault shit tyres

SMOKEU

26th March 2012, 19:39

That's exactly why I avoid mountainous roads on the weekends and public holidays. I've seen fuckwits ride exactly like that on the way to Akaroa enough times to make me keep the bike at home.

Jerry74

26th March 2012, 19:42

Seen shit like this on the Lewis Pass a few times hmmmm not those 2 guys fault

Ender EnZed

26th March 2012, 20:35

Right OK and if the incident had happened 2 or 3 corners earlier it would have been the fault of the guy on screen, I hope he shat himself!

Near miss and he will watch it over and over but never realise that the corners he cut coulda killed him also if a fast bike was coming the other way at those places he was on the wrong side.

Mr. Orange Tyre may have been being a rather a cock but the two times he was across the centre line were with about 20 times the visibility that Mr. Almost Killed Someone had. Their offences are hardly comparable.

mossy1200

26th March 2012, 20:42

Mr. Orange Tyre may have been being a rather a cock but the two times he was across the centre line were with about 20 times the visibility that Mr. Almost Killed Someone had. Their offences are hardly comparable.

Correct.orange tyre wasnt passing on the outside in a blind corner with double yellow lines.this we know but orange tyre is still prepaired to be on the wrong side of the road instead of having fun on his own side.lets be honest hes got a bike that handles well so why does he want to straighten a corner by crossing the centre line.I just think its likely he will still be straightening corners to this day and it may end him at some stage.

onearmedbandit

26th March 2012, 23:28

Correct.orange tyre wasnt passing on the outside in a blind corner with double yellow lines.this we know but orange tyre is still prepaired to be on the wrong side of the road instead of having fun on his own side.lets be honest hes got a bike that handles well so why does he want to straighten a corner by crossing the centre line.I just think its likely he will still be straightening corners to this day and it may end him at some stage.

Yup I agree. To me crossing the centre line is lazy riding. Which can end up fatal.

Maha

27th March 2012, 06:46

at the time of the incident the motard guy was fault free....

But he had the wankmanship to offer up his displeasure about the oncoming rider doing EXACTLY what he was doing just moments before.

(Wankmanship?..is that even a word?:confused:)

rossirep

27th March 2012, 07:20

i recon it was a set up.. come on there was a camera there filmin it all, im sure they are all mates and had it planned out...

and if not crossing double yellow lines is stupid and both guys done it at one point.. stay on ya own side of the road..!!!! how much room do you need?

5150

27th March 2012, 08:20

Fuckin' cage drivers, I think the cage driver made the biker pass (his name would have been Jack Miller) and it was the cars fault.

Don't mention the war

Don't be so Fuckin Stupid!!!! Can't you see the condition of the road? Off camber, gravel and generally poorly maintained....:laugh:

p.dath

27th March 2012, 08:25

Serisouly, riders please stay off the public roads if you want to ride like this. I don't want you on the road as the same time as me.

They were riding well enough to react in time to avoid a head on! :sweatdrop

I reckon they just got "lucky".

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 08:50

Yup I agree. To me crossing the centre line is lazy riding. Which can end up fatal.

I often do it, provided I have a good clear line of sight.

ducatilover

27th March 2012, 08:50

Don't be so Fuckin Stupid!!!! Can't you see the condition of the road? Off camber, gravel and generally poorly maintained....:laugh:
The road got that way because of the cages, council cages especially, bloody Govt.! Blame the Govt.!

The Singing Chef

27th March 2012, 08:57

The road got that way because of the cages, council cages especially, bloody Govt.! Blame the Govt.!

I blame Helen Clark, I think that she did it. http://www.odt.co.nz/files/imagecache/200x200_scaled_cropped/story/2008/08/prime_minister_helen_clark_faces_questions_from_th _1295064464.jpg

5150

27th March 2012, 09:26

I blame Helen Clark, I think that she did it.

Is it me, or does she look hot in that photo? :blink:

The Singing Chef

27th March 2012, 09:56

Is it me, or does she look hot in that photo? :blink:

You may want to see a psychiatrist about your bestiality fetish mate. :shutup:

ducatilover

27th March 2012, 10:48

Is it me, or does she look hot in that photo? :blink:
My deepest sympathies :shutup:

G4L4XY

27th March 2012, 11:14

Gaerne boots woohoo!!! I have some myself haha

5150

27th March 2012, 11:56

Hey, Helen Clark is actually very beautiful woman. It's just hard to show that kind of beauty on TV. :laugh:

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 12:17

Hey, Helen Clark is actually very beautiful woman. It's just hard to show that kind of beauty on TV. :laugh:

There was plenty on display recently. Like the walrus on The Frozen Planet.

5150

27th March 2012, 12:18

There was plenty on display recently. Like the walrus on The Frozen Planet.

HAHA. Plenty on display at the last dog show we went to. In the Pitbull section :shutup:

Ender EnZed

27th March 2012, 12:40

But he had the wankmanship to offer up his displeasure about the oncoming rider doing EXACTLY what he was doing just moments before.

(Wankmanship?..is that even a word?:confused:)

He wasn't doing exactly the same thing though. The only similarity was crossing a bit of coloured paint on the road, and generally riding like a bit of a wanker. It was nothing like passing on a blind corner though.

Maha

27th March 2012, 12:53

He wasn't doing exactly the same thing though. The only similarity was crossing a bit of coloured paint on the road, and generally riding like a bit of a wanker. It was nothing like passing on a blind corner though.

By exactly, I mean...using the road like it was a race track ie: nothing coming the other way..both riders proved they have no reguard for any other road user, let alone themselves.

jrandom

27th March 2012, 13:08

Why has nobody commented on the fact that there wasn't actually any reason for Blameless Rider Whose Life Was Put In Jeopardy (tm) to ride straight off the road and fall down?

Muppet

27th March 2012, 13:19

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 13:51

Why has nobody commented on the fact that there wasn't actually any reason for Blameless Rider Whose Life Was Put In Jeopardy (tm) to ride straight off the road and fall down?

Yeah he was so busy pooing his pants and showing us all about target fixation that he forgot about saving it!

nodrog

27th March 2012, 14:01

Nobody waved :angry:

rossirep

27th March 2012, 15:12

I often do it, provided I have a good clear line of sight.

but why do you need to use the other side of the road..? its not a race track at the end of the day and is your side of the road not big enough for you to ride how you need to safely that you need to cross the centre line.???

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 15:22

but why do you need to use the other side of the road..? its not a race track at the end of the day and is your side of the road not big enough for you to ride how you need to safely that you need to cross the centre line.???

Because as oab said...I'm lazy. Because I'm from a racing backround, the easiest way from one corner to the next is in a straight line.

When you have ample vision and a clear road, I have no problem with it.

chasio

27th March 2012, 15:42

FJRider

27th March 2012, 15:49

ducatilover

27th March 2012, 16:06

but why do you need to use the other side of the road..? its not a race track at the end of the day and is your side of the road not big enough for you to ride how you need to safely that you need to cross the centre line.???
If it's safe to do it, why the fuck not? If you've got clear vision ahead it's no more dangerous than being on the left side.

Fucking nanny VT250 riders.

mossy1200

27th March 2012, 16:16

If it's safe to do it, why the fuck not? If you've got clear vision ahead it's no more dangerous than being on the left side.

Fucking nanny VT250 riders.

Because its more fun to ride the whole S bend than straighten it.One day we hassle the council for taking bends out of our roads and the next we take them out by straightening corners.I say more fun ride the corner while its still there to ride.

rossirep

27th March 2012, 16:23

If it's safe to do it, why the fuck not? If you've got clear vision ahead it's no more dangerous than being on the left side.

Fucking nanny VT250 riders.

cause there is no need to cross the centre line just for the hell of it, so your just one of those fuckwits that everyone on here has a bitch about for riding like a cock sucker, but its ok to cross the centre line if your doing it but not if someone else does it..?? hahaha such a homo,

and we all know how awesome vt's are.. but i dont ride one of them anymore so maybe its time for some new mane calling..

dangerous

27th March 2012, 16:28

And it is possible that the only time on the whole ride the other bloke crossed the line was that corner...DUH... and? so what ya only die once mate and that could have been it, dick shoulda gone down to.

at the time of the incident the motard guy was fault free....so what, the cock cant ride for shit if he cant stay in his own lane... he deserved the wake up.

They were riding well enough to react in time to avoid a head on! :sweatdropohhh fuck off man... that was shear luck end of.

Christ Ive replyed to every post so far... cant ne buggered reading more :facepalm:

Ok read the last page too...

If it's safe to do it, why the fuck not? If you've got clear vision ahead it's no more dangerous than being on the left side. jezzzus christ man... and how often do you hear "ohh I didnt see you" BANG they thought they had "clear vision ahead"
If ya cant handle ya bike in ya own lane then ya cant ride for shit and should leave it at home in the garage...

Gremlin

27th March 2012, 16:30

If it's safe to do it, why the fuck not? If you've got clear vision ahead it's no more dangerous than being on the left side.
It can become a bad habit, and if you get it wrong, it can actually make the cornering harder. Far too many also take into account an oncoming speed of a car, and not a sportsbike howling along. Why make your ride more dangerous than it needs to be?

Why go out there to enjoy the corners, but spend your time cutting them or straightening them out? It's never made any sense to me... :weird:

Usarka

27th March 2012, 16:33

Or if you've failed to realise that another vehicle (bike) is trying to overtake you on that corner.

ducatilover

27th March 2012, 16:35

Because its more fun to ride the whole S bend than straighten it.One day we hassle the council for taking bends out of our roads and the next we take them out by straightening corners.I say more fun ride the corner while its still there to ride.
Have to agree with the above.
But, crossing the centreline while having full view is in my mind perfectly fine.

cause there is no need to cross the centre line just for the hell of it, so your just one of those fuckwits that everyone on here has a bitch about for riding like a cock sucker, but its ok to cross the centre line if your doing it but not if someone else does it..?? hahaha such a homo,

and we all know how awesome vt's are.. but i dont ride one of them anymore so maybe its time for some new mane calling..
At least you bite back :laugh: You've never seen me ride, I ride a lot slower than you'd expect.

It can become a bad habit, and if you get it wrong, it can actually make the cornering harder. Far too many also take into account an oncoming speed of a car, and not a sportsbike howling along. Why make your ride more dangerous than it needs to be?

Why go out there to enjoy the corners, but spend your time cutting them or straightening them out? It's never made any sense to me... :weird:
Not everyone wants to get max lean angle when they can straighten it out (I don't cross the centreline in corners, just to clarify, but I don't because I like corners)

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 16:50

If ya cant handle ya bike in ya own lane then ya cant ride for shit and should leave it at home in the garage...

I beg to differ.

Not everyone wants to get max lean angle when they can straighten it out

Correct.

onearmedbandit

27th March 2012, 17:42

I often do it, provided I have a good clear line of sight.

I don't, ruins the corner. I'd rather lean harder than 'straight line' corners. Each to their own though. (BTW, I'm sure you could lean a bike lot harder than I could so I'm not suggesting anything.)

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 17:54

I don't, ruins the corner. I'd rather lean harder than 'straight line' corners. Each to their own though.

I guess it all depends on what pace you're doing etc etc as well. Sometimes, to me, it's pointless taxing everything if you don't have to.

I certainly wouldn't have been doing what motard scrotbag was as far as cutting things up though. His lines were shite, as was his riding.

mossy1200

27th March 2012, 18:19

I guess it all depends on what pace you're doing etc etc as well. Sometimes, to me, it's pointless taxing everything if you don't have to.

I certainly wouldn't have been doing what motard scrotbag was as far as cutting things up though. His lines were shite, as was his riding.

So conclusion is he likes the lean angles due to the way he was riding so straightening corners for him was pointless.Also arnt the riders who dont like to lean more likely to be traveling at a speed that they could take corners on their own side of road.
It looks like at the speeds he was doing if he found himself needing to use only his own side he may not have made some of those esses.

You just cant trust someone with a orange front tyre.Thats just crazy shitz buying tyres that arnt black.

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 18:34

.

You just cant trust someone with a orange front tyre.Thats just crazy shitz buying tyres that arnt black.

In a nutshell.

Madness

27th March 2012, 18:40

Not everyone wants to get max lean angle when they can straighten it out

You mean like this guy (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/143143-ZX6R-video-for-your-viewing-pleasure?highlight=fruit)?

dangerous

27th March 2012, 18:51

(BTW, I'm sure you could lean a bike lot harder than I could so I'm not suggesting anything.)
like... you can out ride him, ie he cant? just a guess ;)

I beg to differ.How the hell can ya... if you have to cut the corner into the other lane then ya going to fast, nother words ya cant handle ya bike... simple, and or ya simpley to farking lazy, either way shit riding slow down and stay on the correct side of the road and leave it as a Crasherfromwayback

onearmedbandit

27th March 2012, 19:04

like... you can out ride him, ie he cant? just a guess ;)

Some might have taken my comment that way. I just wanted it clear that I wasn't suggesting that.

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 19:50

How the hell can ya... if you have to cut the corner into the other lane then ya going to fast, nother words ya cant handle ya bike... simple, and or ya simpley to farking lazy, either way shit riding slow down and stay on the correct side of the road and leave it as a Crasherfromwayback

You ever gone over 100kph? If so...eat my shit.

dangerous

27th March 2012, 20:04

You ever gone over 100kph? If so...eat my shit.I doubt ya'd have enough :shutup: not sure quite what ya mean but if its refering to speeding being as stupid as cutting corners and or crossing the center? sorry I cant relate them unless the speeding is done dangeriously, shit it can be dangerous to do 40k

Crasherfromwayback

27th March 2012, 20:08

I doubt ya'd have enough :shutup: not sure quite what ya mean but if its refering to speeding being as stupid as cutting corners and or crossing the center? sorry I cant relate them unless the speeding is done dangeriously, shit it can be dangerous to do 40k

What I'm saying is some see speeding as dangerous, others as straightening a piece of road. I personally don't give a flying fuck what you think about my riding skills. Because they're actually pretty good and safe. I'll never see turning unnessasary curves into a straight as dangerous. Good for you if you do. But telling me I can't ride for shit for doing so is more than arrogant in my eyes.

ducatilover

27th March 2012, 21:17

You mean like this guy (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/143143-ZX6R-video-for-your-viewing-pleasure?highlight=fruit)?
Exactly...wait...

dangerous

28th March 2012, 04:57

But telling me I can't ride for shit for doing so is more than arrogant in my eyes.
na, dont take that personaly... you were an example I cant comment on your riding as I havent seen it and I dont doubt you know you know what ya doing for a second.
Its the young ones that read your post and they think they can do it with out the skill you have. Either way I wont do it delibratly and If I do then Im out of control (I fuck up)

Do you remember this
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10413562 and Id like those that were not around KB at the time to have a read.

arkeo

28th March 2012, 05:17

You may want to see a psychiatrist about your bestiality fetish mate. :shutup:
ah ah ah ah :laugh:

Crasherfromwayback

28th March 2012, 06:55

Do you remember this
.

Of course I do. One of them was a friend of mine.

ducatilover

28th March 2012, 09:44

I remember it too, bloody horrible.
You're right Dangerous, there's no need to cross the centre line, but if you're an intelligent chap who can see up the road and know there are no risks, why not?

merv

28th March 2012, 09:57

I often do it, provided I have a good clear line of sight.

You rebel you, 'spose you recommend it to the riders you sell Harleys to.

What I noticed with the video is how far the van had moved to the edge of the road but the biker still ran well wide over the no-passing line - crazy. The offending biker looked like he was on some sort of Jap cruiser or old custom.

Crasherfromwayback

28th March 2012, 10:01

You rebel you, 'spose you recommend it to the riders you sell Harleys to.

What I noticed with the video is how far the van had moved to the edge of the road but the biker still ran well wide over the no-passing line - crazy. The offending biker looked like he was on some sort of Jap cruiser or old custom.

Nah. I don't generally tell others how to ride Merv!

Yep. The main perp in the film wants shooting with a ball of his own shit.

merv

28th March 2012, 10:12

The video is so similar to this story http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/144252-Diavel-crash-on-the-Akaroa-Hill-Info-wanted?

dangerous

28th March 2012, 16:32

I remember it too, bloody horrible.
You're right Dangerous, there's no need to cross the centre line, but if you're an intelligent chap who can see up the road and know there are no risks, why not?
Hey a sore point to raise I know, two very much admired and missed gents... but by what you say is they wernt "intelligent chaps"
By all acounts they were, thus showing the need to never cut or cross any corner delebritly (not saying in that case it was) cos a head on is inpossable if all are on the correct side of the road... now no one can argue that one, so why the hell take the chance.

mossy1200

28th March 2012, 16:51

I wouldnt recommend being on the wrong side with no option to get back to safety if required.On a road like that its possible another fast rider or sports car could reach you faster than you could expect.
The people on this site that say they dont mind straightening roads do so most likely when they have a clear view of whats coming unlike the guy in video footage.
Riding within your ability is the most important thing and everyone has a differnt skill level.When they exceed their PERSONAL skill level then they are taking risks.Most would agree if they dont know their own ability then they wont make a good judgement in reguards to safety.

My personal view is idd rather stay on my own side and the guy on his motard could have just as much fun riding the whole esses which may require being a bit slower at the corners he cut through.Idd say he and his mate should have set guidlines to making a at speed recording that they ride on their own side.It seems to me a bit of recording red mist was going on with his ride.

As for the guy passing on the outside of a blind corner.What a muppet.Maybe he thought the driver had moved to the side and waved him through then moved over on him.

merv

28th March 2012, 17:00

Maybe he thought the driver had moved to the side and waved him through then moved over on him.

Nah watching the video the van seemed to move even further to the side of the road when the driver could see what the muppet was doing.

mossy1200

28th March 2012, 17:15

Nah watching the video the van seemed to move even further to the side of the road when the driver could see what the muppet was doing.

I was just trying to find some reason in my mind rather than leave him labled Muppet.So ill just leave it he was 99.9999% muppet with a nearly zero chance that he was being underpassed by a van.

rossirep

28th March 2012, 17:28

Nah watching the video the van seemed to move even further to the side of the road when the driver could see what the muppet was doing.

chances are the car driver was watching the road and not looking in hs mirror seeing whats coming up from behind, well on tight lil twistys like that i know id be looking ahead, and it would have only taken a second for the bike to reach the car so for all you know he didnt even know there was a bike there, let alone a bike tryin to pass...

macka77

30th March 2012, 13:15