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Lou Girardin

27th July 2005, 08:57

One of our sales guys was pulled on the Northern M/Way this morning for overtaking on the left and riding a short way on the bus lane.
He was warned for both on provision that he passed the word about the correct way to filter. :clap:
It appears that the wrong info is being passed on by some bike shops (not AMPS) who need to learn the legalities of m/way use. Search this site for the innumerable threads on the subject.
An interesting thing the cop said, was that they have been pushing for bikes to be able to use the m/way bus lanes, but Transit is adamantly against it.
Apparently I'm also a pain in the gluteous maximus to the local cops.
I'm really touched by this.

crashe

27th July 2005, 11:04

Apparently I'm also a pain in the gluteous maximus to the local cops. I'm really touched by this.

Why, what have you done now?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Lou Girardin

27th July 2005, 12:06

Why, what have you done now?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Beats me. Maybe he's a mate of Spuds. :spudwave: Or I might be traffic-satan incarnate. :devil2:
Or maybe :whocares:

Big Dave

27th July 2005, 12:10

>>Apparently I'm also a pain in the gluteous maximus to the local cops.<<

You're reading too much into it - all they have done is met you :devil2:

FROSTY

27th July 2005, 12:19

Actually ya know on the whole it really doen't make sense NOT to allow bikes on the Motorway bus lanes.
Also doesn't make sense that a new law can be overturned by an old law
To mee its like transit are saying -up yours to the government
You could even say we are doing our civic duty supporting the new law

Gixxer 4 ever

27th July 2005, 12:49

Do's this count for being a pain in the gluteous maximus.
I noted a rolling of eyes when pulled over at a check point when the said officer had to repeat what he said coz my radar detector was turned up to load and his car was still transmitting. :weird: It was fecking noisy in my helmet :motu: but he got the message. :rofl: :rofl: Yes I did turn it off but it was still fun. :whistle:

Lou Girardin

27th July 2005, 13:08

>>Apparently I'm also a pain in the gluteous maximus to the local cops.<<

You're reading too much into it - all they have done is met you :devil2:

Cops and I meet VERY infrequently. It's plainly a conspiracy. The paranoids are out to get me. :wait:

BTW. Further to the bus lane thing.
Apparently one of the things Transit objects to is that bikers would ride across on/off-ramps in front of cars if they were allowed to use bus lanes.
I don't know about anyone else here, but that's the last thing I'd do. I want to grow old (er).
Surely most bikers would merge into the left lane before they got to the ramp, then rejoin the bus lane when we're well clear of the merging cages shit fight from on-ramp to m/way lane.
Does ANYONE at Transit NZ ride a friggin' bike?

outlawtorn

27th July 2005, 13:08

pyrocam

27th July 2005, 13:50

shit Id better watch out for that.
If anyone knows the onramp going into the city from Mt albert/GT North road the bike circle one (great fun with no traffic)
I ussually just trundle along on the left then when I get to the motorway just indicate to turn into the lane until a gap opens up.

might need a new strategy.

Ixion

27th July 2005, 14:41

Cops and I meet VERY infrequently. It's plainly a conspiracy. The paranoids are out to get me. :wait:

BTW. Further to the bus lane thing.
Apparently one of the things Transit objects to is that bikers would ride across on/off-ramps in front of cars if they were allowed to use bus lanes.
I don't know about anyone else here, but that's the last thing I'd do. I want to grow old (er).
Surely most bikers would merge into the left lane before they got to the ramp, then rejoin the bus lane when we're well clear of the merging cages shit fight from on-ramp to m/way lane.
Does ANYONE at Transit NZ ride a friggin' bike?

So, do the buses drive across the on/off ramps ?

Marmoot

27th July 2005, 15:00

Apparently one of the things Transit objects to is that bikers would ride across on/off-ramps in front of cars if they were allowed to use bus lanes.

They shouldn't worry about that. If it happens, only 1 person would die: the rider.
If a bus would ride across on/off ramps....now that would be a different number of deaths :whistle: .....

Lou Girardin

27th July 2005, 15:25

Buses do drive across the ramps and barge into traffic lanes at overbridges, actually they do pretty much what they like.
Apparently that's safe enough for Transit. Might is right.
Realistically Transit's reasoning is bullshit. It has nothing to do with safety, because we all know it's safer on a bus lane than risking a Liberace or sideswipe from a cage when you're in a traffic lane. It has more to do with a killjoy, "if cars can't do it, why should they?" attitude that permeates so much of our public services.

Big Dave

27th July 2005, 15:33

Liberace

Now that is funny.

Lou Girardin

27th July 2005, 16:19

Now that is funny.

I can't claim it. It was originally used by one of the commentators at Bathurst in the '80s.
F'ing Aussies even have the best one liners.

HenryDorsetCase

27th July 2005, 17:38

Come to Christchurch all of you!

no (real) issues like that here. Just wide open spaces punctuated with corners that make the corkscrew at Laguna look like a roundabout.

seriously, I didnt realise you WERENT allowed to do this.

when I commuted on a motorbike in Wellington, no one seemed to mind motorbikes on the mway service lanes.... (2 lanes stopped, bikes in the service lane going 80k's.... ha ha hah )

scumdog

27th July 2005, 17:41

Apparently I'm also a pain in the gluteous maximus to the local cops.
I'm really touched by this.

It's not just the local cops :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :whistle:

Aitch

27th July 2005, 18:06

On the back of auckland buses that bus lanes are for buses motorbikes and bicycles??? Is the motorway magically different somehow?? Bloody little grey beaureaucrats writng their grey little laws.....

Ixion

27th July 2005, 18:11

On the back of auckland buses that bus lanes are for buses motorbikes and bicycles??? Is the motorway magically different somehow?? Bloody little grey beaureaucrats writng their grey little laws.....

Well, different. Don't know about magically.

Motorways (and State Highways) are specifcally under the control of Transit - tis the law says so. They say we can't ride in them .

Non motorway buslanes are under the control of LTSA now (was not so until recently). They say we can .

Other roads are under the contrrol of local authorities (eg City council). Until recently they also had the non motorway buslanes. Some did, some didn't.

pyrocam

27th July 2005, 18:52

On the back of auckland buses that bus lanes are for buses motorbikes and bicycles??? Is the motorway magically different somehow?? Bloody little grey beaureaucrats writng their grey little laws.....

bus drivers have special licenses.

what about a requirement to do a defensive driving course or something to do bus lanes.

also bus's are bigger and cars care about hitting them
I saw one change lanes today without indicating. car in front of me screeches to a halt. (of course I cassually hit indicater and avoid car by lane splitting cos im so fucking cool (pt) )

bikerboy

27th July 2005, 19:14

Why, what have you done now?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He has a brain and an opinion contrary to the police. :clap:

Lou Girardin

28th July 2005, 08:23

It's not just the local cops :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :whistle:

I'll never be be a pain in your arse Scummy, no matter how much you plead.

Lou Girardin

28th July 2005, 08:28

[QUOTE=Ixion]Non motorway buslanes are under the control of LTSA now (was not so until recently). They say we can .
QUOTE]

LTNZ don't actually control any roads. It's Transit for State highways and local bodies for the rest.
The interesting case will be for toll roads. Will private enterprise be able to build a road and control it? Like the pprivate forestry roads, no speed limits :yes:
Or is this the reason for the law change to allow the Police to prosecute in "off-road" situations. :no:

Pancakes

28th July 2005, 12:05

I emailed transit about this a few weeks ago when I decided I'd buy a bike, they said that they control the motorways and local bodies control the rest. The reason given for no bikes in the bus lanes in 100k zones is because you might get hit by busses and that cars might use the on and off ramps without checking and hit bikes. I used to cycle courier ('95 to '98) and the bike couriers were pushing for bikes to be speed limited to 80 in the bus lanes (like busses are supposed to volantarily do now) and used to commute daily from whenuapai and your right in saying that no-one in transit must ride cos from cycling, being pillion and now riding you are so much more aware of where everyone is and might be wether they are in or outside of the law. I've always told other cyclists "you don't have dings on bikes" they scratch their paint and you lose your leg no matter who's in the wrong.

FROSTY

28th July 2005, 13:33

Just an aside here guys. Quite frankly I dont want to ride in the motorway bus lanes anymore.Have a look at the tyres on a cop bike and you'll see why. I did a 4 month stint where for about 1km I was riding down the bus lane.
I picked up more crap in my tyres than in the 5 years before