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nudemetalz
30th March 2012, 09:50
This got me thinking from another thread about boring (Corolla and Camry) cars...

What is the most boring bike you've owned / ridden?
I know this is an opinion as any bike is more entertaining than any car when you're riding but as far as all of the bikes I've owned it would be my brand-new CG-125 I owned....

placidfemme
30th March 2012, 09:53
What is the most boring bike you've owned / ridden?

Owned: FXR150
Ridden: Yamaha Scorpio

kiwifruit
30th March 2012, 09:53
I can't honestly say any bike i've ridden has been boring

Nzpure
30th March 2012, 10:14
harley..lol this post will get some flak.

Jantar
30th March 2012, 10:18
Most boring bike I've owned would be a 1984 Suzuki GSX1100E. It didn't do anything badly, but wasn't all that great either. It just did exactly what was asked of it.

Most boring bike I've ridden? I was about to say Harley Fatboy, but on reflection it wasn't boring, it was just bloody terrible. So most boring bike I've ridden would have to be the Honda CB350/4. Nice to ride, but nothing out of the ordinary for that period.

imdying
30th March 2012, 10:27
harley..lol this post will get some flak.SV1000, hands down the most boring bike. Sorting out the stupid gearing makes a huge huge difference though... and burning the factory mufflers. Fortunately one is cheap, and the other normally done as it leaves the show room.

G4L4XY
30th March 2012, 10:28
Well I've only ridden one bike and it's my current bike and it's fun as hell so thats my opinion :)

BuzzardNZ
30th March 2012, 10:42
Honda Hornet 600.

Voltaire
30th March 2012, 10:55
BMW K100.:yawn:

george formby
30th March 2012, 11:08
Never had a "boring" bike but I have had one which was just very good at going a long way. Kawasaki GT 750 shaft drive. Lacking ground clearance, performance & brakes, the first & last keeping it from being boring but not stopping me from getting bored riding within it's limitations. The most exciting thing was all the rattling when you started it cold.

slofox
30th March 2012, 11:11
I once owned a CB250 - early 80's version.

I had to get a communter bike for work. It was so boring I eventually just stopped riding it because I couldn't be arsed getting it out of the shed.

Nzpure
30th March 2012, 11:20
I once owned a CB250 - early 80's version.

I had to get a communter bike for work. It was so boring I eventually just stopped riding it because I couldn't be arsed getting it out of the shed.

got a cb250 too. If you give it shit it does quite well in the twisties bottoms out tho lol. Probab;y still more fun then a harley, although kick starts sucks balls.

nudemetalz
30th March 2012, 11:20
I once owned a CB250 - early 80's version.

I had to get a communter bike for work. It was so boring I eventually just stopped riding it because I couldn't be arsed getting it out of the shed.

I owned a CB250N once also,.....mind you I was 17 at the time and the main goal was to see if I could make it rev to 14,000 rpm on each ride (it redlined at 10,200rpm). .....

Nzpure
30th March 2012, 11:21
Well I've only ridden one bike and it's my current bike and it's fun as hell so thats my opinion :)

Oath! i owned a gt250r best bike i ridden so far!

slofox
30th March 2012, 11:40
I owned a CB250N once also,.....mind you I was 17 at the time and the main goal was to see if I could make it rev to 14,000 rpm on each ride (it redlined at 10,200rpm). .....

And did it?

Dadpole
30th March 2012, 11:46
Most boring bike I've owned would be a 1984 Suzuki GSX1100E. It didn't do anything badly, but wasn't all that great either. It just did exactly what was asked of it.


Was that the "D" model? I found the "E" model with the 16 inch front wheel exciting - for all the wrong reasons.:shit:

nudemetalz
30th March 2012, 12:09
And did it?
Amazingly enough it did !!
They were tough motors those 3V 250N's.

Jantar
30th March 2012, 12:15
Was that the "D" model? I found the "E" model with the 16 inch front wheel exciting - for all the wrong reasons.:shit:
Yes, the ED not the EE. I traded it on a Katana 1100 wire wheel that is now owned by a well know KBer in Taupo. Now that bike was NOT boring.

Tigadee
30th March 2012, 13:24
Hyosung GT250N - Mind you, it was a 2003 model, so very old and wasn't well-cared for, so it may not have performed up to spec, but generally I found it heavy, lazy and uncomfortable. <_< But that's just me...

5150
30th March 2012, 13:38
GN250. I literally fell asleep riding it. Woke up in the ditch. :facepalm:

Gremlin
30th March 2012, 13:40
I think the OP's first post is slightly contradictory. The camry of bikes I reckon has to be the Hornet CB900. It does whatever you want, when you want, awfully reliable etc. I guess it's kinda boring?

Brilliant at nothing really, but crap at nothing, guess it's what makes it brilliant?

5150
30th March 2012, 13:43
I think the OP's first post is slightly contradictory. The camry of bikes I reckon has to be the Hornet CB900. It does whatever you want, when you want, awfully reliable etc. I guess it's kinda boring?

Brilliant at nothing really, but crap at nothing, guess it's what makes it brilliant?

Not to mention Grin factor 11

nudemetalz
30th March 2012, 13:44
I think the OP's first post is slightly contradictory. The camry of bikes I reckon has to be the Hornet CB900. It does whatever you want, when you want, awfully reliable etc. I guess it's kinda boring?

Brilliant at nothing really, but crap at nothing, guess it's what makes it brilliant?

Fair call. Hornet 900's are great machines.

I guess I should have just left out the Toyota reference and just said ridden/owned that are unexciting and boring.
Just interesting different people's experiences / opinions.

Gremlin
30th March 2012, 13:45
Not to mention Grin factor 11
Shhhh, I like that everyone thinks I'm an old nana on it (including cops etc) when I'm riding around... :innocent:

willytheekid
30th March 2012, 14:28
Tis a good thread nude:yes:...tis a bloody hard question to (Now that Ive thought about it)

But...I honestly don't think Ive owned a boring bike:blink:....Ive always managed to either have lots of fun or get into lots of trouble!:laugh: on every bike Ive owned or riden?
...I like bikes!...any kind of bike!!, just as long as its got 2 wheels, handlebars and some fuel in the tank...Im happy :yes:

...cars on the other hand!:no:...stupid bloody design!...boooooriiiing! :yawn: (And I kerb grind the shit out of em :laugh:...V8s have promise...but nothin like a bike!:niceone:)

http://popupnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2749616531_cfcdc7f2f9.jpg

There are "special bikes" tho...like my old "PhatGirll" (but I don't need to explain that to most of u lot ;))

sil3nt
30th March 2012, 14:32
Hyo GT250R. Took one for a test ride. Engine was dull and lifeless. Not sure if that was bike specific or all models are like that.


And corollas aren't boring!

Fast Eddie
30th March 2012, 15:14
havent come across a bike I've found boring yet..

maybe your all doing it wrong..

.. if it seems boring, pull over - find some mushrooms growin nearby, ingest, then try riding the bike again. If no change repeat earier steps until experience and excitement level improves.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 15:16
No bike is boring if you exceed its limitations.

bc.worldlive
30th March 2012, 15:21
i've ridden few bikes, but the most boring of the 5 was a replica Royal Enfield Bullet 500, but in saying that it looked so nice.

Crasherfromwayback
30th March 2012, 15:22
Most boring bike I've owned was a KLX250. Handled like a KX, but an XR185 would kick sand in your face.

Most boring bike I've ever ridden? Draw between a CX400 Euro, and an XZ400.

5150
30th March 2012, 15:25
No bike is boring if you exceed its limitations.

Yup. Aha......:facepalm:

jasonu
30th March 2012, 15:51
Never had a "boring" bike but I have had one which was just very good at going a long way. Kawasaki GT 750 shaft drive. Lacking ground clearance, performance & brakes, the first & last keeping it from being boring but not stopping me from getting bored riding within it's limitations. The most exciting thing was all the rattling when you started it cold.

That was BOTY in Two Wheels in '84 (or was it '85).

wanpo
30th March 2012, 15:54
I think the OP's first post is slightly contradictory. The camry of bikes I reckon has to be the Hornet CB900. It does whatever you want, when you want, awfully reliable etc. I guess it's kinda boring?

Brilliant at nothing really, but crap at nothing, guess it's what makes it brilliant?

Yeah, the Hornet 900 was my immediate thought.

Don't get me wrong I think they're brilliant bikes, but I just found riding them kinda dull. They do everything you'd put down on paper that you'd want a bike to do, but they just seem to lack a soul.

You can have fun on a crap bike, because it's crap. e.g. (and these are from personal experience) Wondering if your Hyosung will get you to your destination, or if the GN250 you're riding will make it up that hill.

Oh and most boring engine award goes to a GPX/Ninja 250

Oakie
30th March 2012, 16:35
I've never owned a bike that bored me because they were all what I wanted at the time. I did see my old bike, a CB400 Super Four, described once as 'the blandest of bland bikes' though.

ducatilover
30th March 2012, 16:50
I think the OP's first post is slightly contradictory. The camry of bikes I reckon has to be the Hornet CB900. It does whatever you want, when you want, awfully reliable etc. I guess it's kinda boring?

Brilliant at nothing really, but crap at nothing, guess it's what makes it brilliant?
I'd have to disagree, however it's the Camry of "big" bikes for sure.
The CB400 superfour has to take the cake for me.
Did everything well for what it was, but I just never wanted to go quick, or have any fun. The only bike I have ridden where I feel like lighting a ciggy in the helmet to pass time.

rocketman1
30th March 2012, 19:11
SV1000, hands down the most boring bike. Sorting out the stupid gearing makes a huge huge difference though... and burning the factory mufflers. Fortunately one is cheap, and the other normally done as it leaves the show room.

Cant think you are in your right mind!!
SV1000 are not boring;, they have a great v twin motor, sound great with the right cans, and handle ok too.
There are alot more boring bikes than this model.

Next thing you will be saying Ducati's and GSXR's & R1's are boring.

Wsated too much time already.

bsasuper
30th March 2012, 19:15
If you think riding any motorcycle is boring, then motorcycles arnt for you.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 19:23
Owned: FXR150
Ridden: Yamaha Scorpio

What the fuck?

They're both brilliant.

If you need horsepower to not be bored then you haven't learned to ride a bike properly yet.

Zamiam
30th March 2012, 19:27
Wondered when I saw the title how long it would take for someone to say Harley. Not long :angry:

Seriously though xv650 Yamaha from around 78

Jantar
30th March 2012, 19:28
What the fuck?

They're both brilliant.

If you need horsepower to not be bored then you haven't learned to ride a bike properly yet.
If she has only ridden a limited selection of bikes then I can understand her selection.

Remember this isn't a poll on the most boring bikes that exist, just of the ones ridden or owned.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 19:28
The most boring bike I've ever ridden, and this is entirely subjective, because it was a matter of it not being what I expected, was a Twin Cam 96 Street Bob. It looked the part and I was excited when I got on it, but 100m down the road my grin was fading, and 10km later I looked like this:

<img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HVa2upHVLBo/Tv7AZF_AOuI/AAAAAAAABIM/bX4P9T_YeWY/s1600/tn-memes-no-face-of-course-not.jpg"/>

Big block Harleys have lost their soul since the Twin Cam 88s.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 19:30
Whereas I think the 103 in the Touring Chassis is the best they have made yet.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 19:32
Whereas I think the 103 in the Touring Chassis is the best they have made yet.

I've only ridden a Softail Standard 103 and a Fat Bob 103 with a stage 2 tune. Does either of those have a Touring Chassis?

baptist
30th March 2012, 19:33
What the fuck?

They're both brilliant.

If you need horsepower to not be bored then you haven't learned to ride a bike properly yet.

Agree... I loved my Scorpio, throwing it around was a hoot...

Maybe it is more to do with the roads... My S40 was as boring as on straight roads (SH1 out south of Auckland for example should have a warning sign about boring), so is my GSX, but on a nice road.... they both put smile on my face, heck most bikes would, no?

jrandom
30th March 2012, 19:36
Agree... I loved my Scorpio, throwing it around was a hoot...

I'm keeping mine forever, and when it wears out I'll buy another one.


Maybe it is more to do with the roads...

I think it's more to do with mindset. I really enjoy sitting on a Scorpio on the highway watching the world trickle past, abandoning the obligation to go faster than everything else just because I'm on a motorbike.

Flat bars and Metzeler Lasertecs are prerequisites to properly enjoying a Scorpio, though, I've found.

Crasherfromwayback
30th March 2012, 19:38
Big block Harleys have lost their soul since the Twin Cam 88s.

You simply haven't ridden enough of them. Or good enough ones.

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 19:39
cx400 gl145

jrandom
30th March 2012, 19:40
You simply haven't ridden enough of them. Or good enough ones.

Perhaps I'll pop by some time and see if you can tempt me to trade up.

I have to say, though, the Nightster really does feel like precisely what I want to be riding.

Pussy
30th March 2012, 19:43
I traded it on a Katana 1100 wire wheel that is now owned by a well know KBer in Taupo. Now that bike was NOT boring.

That bike is fucken AWESOME! :)

jrandom
30th March 2012, 19:47
That bike is fucken AWESOME! :)

Having ridden it (isn't it a small world?) I totally concur.

And I've come to it spoiled by modern sprotbikes and whatnot. I can only imagine how mindblowing it would've been when it came out.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 19:47
I've only ridden a Softail Standard 103 and a Fat Bob 103 with a stage 2 tune. Does either of those have a Touring Chassis?

Nah - Road King, Ultras, Street and Road Glides are the Tourers. CWB and I differ on what is best handling big block. My vote is still with the Touring Rigs.

Went for a skid with these chaps recently.

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The Street Glide kept pace very nicely through some west Brizzy twisty bits. As usual the comment was 'That was a "spirited ride". I didn't know they went like that'.
It's about the fourth time I've heard it. :-)

Don't underestimate how well a Gold Wing chucks around in the right hands too. The Harley has better clearances though.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 19:54
Nah - Road King, Ultras, Street and Road Glides are the Tourers.

*thoughtful*


Street Glide

It's only of late that I've started to appreciate the bagger thing.

Maybe I'll dip my toes in the water and ask Pete very nicely about a test ride.

baptist
30th March 2012, 19:59
Flat bars and Metzeler Lasertecs are prerequisites to properly enjoying a Scorpio, though, I've found.
Tyres for sure, never changed the bars though, originals were really comfy for me... I would buy another one if I could afford it.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:01
Tyres for sure, never changed the bars though, originals were really comfy for me...

I found they sat me back too far and gave me a sore tailbone. Flat bars made it more comfortable and improved the handling.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 20:02
If you are looking for that bone shaking, heavy metal, industrial feeling, with a gearbox that has 'character' and such - then a pre 2000 model will suit you better. They do have a certain primal 'life was simpler then' appeal. They also present a better canvas on which to paint an ideal. Cheaper one at least.

The later models are efficient and well performed. Still not fast, but capable on the road (unless 141 roulette is the goal).

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:06
If you are looking for that bone shaking, heavy metal, industrial feeling, with a gearbox that has 'character' and such - then a pre 2000 model will suit you better. They do have a certain primal 'life was simpler then' appeal. They also present a better canvas on which to paint an ideal. Cheaper one at least.

You hit the 'why I bought a Nightster' nail bang on the head there. You do understand, don't you? I just warmed to you a little bit. As a person, and stuff.


The later models are efficient and well performed.

Yeah, that's the thing. I don't really see the rationale for paying an extra ten grand to have a HD badge on a Boulevard tank.

Pussy
30th March 2012, 20:10
Having ridden it (isn't it a small world?) I totally concur.

And I've come to it spoiled by modern sprotbikes and whatnot. I can only imagine how mindblowing it would've been when it came out.

I felt VERY fortunate to be offered a ride on it. It was many years since I had ridden a garden variety Katana 1100... but the E27 was easily superior. Bugger me... one of only 20 made, and I was allowed to ride it. Loved it!

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 20:13
*thoughtful*



It's only of late that I've started to appreciate the bagger thing.

Maybe I'll dip my toes in the water and ask Pete very nicely about a test ride.

I must admit idd own a road king or heritage.I think the new line up is good for those 2.

Jantar
30th March 2012, 20:14
I felt VERY fortunate to be offered a ride on it. It was many years since I had ridden a garden variety Katana 1100... but the E27 was easily superior. Bugger me... one of only 20 made, and I was allowed to ride it. Loved it!
My brother-in-law still has one is his garage. Absolutely mint condition and only has about 20000 kms from new. It is hardly ever used as he has a GSX1400 as his main bike.

Pussy
30th March 2012, 20:16
My brother-in-law still has one is his garage. Absolutely mint condition and only has about 20000 kms from new. It is hardly ever used as he has a GSX1400 as his main bike.

Your brother-in-law will be getting a call from me when I win lotto!

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:17
Your brother-in-law will be getting a call from me when I win lotto!

I hope there are still a few mint GSX1400s around in 20 years time. I could see myself buying another one. The like of it won't be made again.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 20:18
I don't really see the rationale.


Opinion is free - Rationale is invoiced on the word count. :-)

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:20
Opinion is free - Rationale is invoiced on the word count. :-)

I still think you could just paste 'lorem ipsum' under your photos and it wouldn't make much difference, Dave.

Pussy
30th March 2012, 20:20
I hope there are still a few mint GSX1400s around in 20 years time. I could see myself buying another one. The like of it won't be made again.

I haven't actually had the pleasure of riding a GSX 1400. I should imagine they would have more low end grunt than a mob of pigs at feeding time.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 20:22
I hope there are still a few mint GSX1400s around in 20 years time. I could see myself buying another one. The like of it won't be made again.

My buddy Mark (with the BMW in that pic earlier) is a moto-journo for Rupert's rags nationally. He's out to buy one at the moment as his daily ride.

Re: the Katana and Lotto - just buy a 1250 Bandit now - better performance, modern shizzle.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:22
I haven't actually had the pleasure of riding a GSX 1400. I should imagine they would have more low end grunt than a mob of pigs at feeding time.

Not reeeeeeally. Not like, say, a Twin Cam 103. The meat's at about 5,000rpm. It's still a four-cylinder motor.

You really want to take one for a ride sometime.

Make sure you wind all the clickers up before you get on.

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 20:24
Not reeeeeeally. Not like, say, a Twin Cam 103. The meat's at about 5,000rpm. It's still a four-cylinder motor.

You really want to take one for a ride sometime.

Make sure you wind all the clickers up before you get on.

At 5k my mt01 is almost at redline

YellowDog
30th March 2012, 20:25
http://exercisebikeguide.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/upright-exercise-bikes.jpg

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 20:25
You want to talk 'grunt' - you have to talk Rocket III - it is unique.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:26
At 5k my mt01 is almost at redline

I haven't ridden an MT-01. kiwifruit got off my GSX1400 onto one and described it as 'wheezy'.

Personally I quite like the MT-01's looks but I suspect that the motor is still in cruiser tune and doesn't quite match them.

Edit: I would've test-ridden one last year before I got the Sporty, if Road & Sport hadn't had such an unpleasant approach. The salesman's apparent terror that I might not buy a new Harley after all lost him the whole kit and caboodle. Sales guys: if someone test-rides a new bike and then gets off it and takes an interest in some second-hand unit that you'll make less money off of, at least have the decency to conceal your frustration and pretend you're still keen to sell him something.

As always, I enjoyed my dealings with AMPS the following weekend.

Pussy
30th March 2012, 20:28
You really want to take one for a ride sometime.



I have a mate in Rotorua who has got one. He bought one of the uniform blue/white jobbies, and got the Yoshimura Japan muffler chucked in with the deal. He offered me a ride on it when he last turned up. For some reason or another I declined at the time. I won't next time.

Cheshire Cat
30th March 2012, 20:31
I think the OP's first post is slightly contradictory. The camry of bikes I reckon has to be the Hornet CB900. It does whatever you want, when you want, awfully reliable etc. I guess it's kinda boring?

Brilliant at nothing really, but crap at nothing, guess it's what makes it brilliant?

apart from when you want it to go around a bumpy corner or youre on and off with the throttle. then its a big fat wale cow to ride! :shit:

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:34
its a big fat wale cow to ride! :shit:

u r

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 20:35
I haven't ridden an MT-01. kiwifruit got off my GSX1400 onto one and described it as 'wheezy'.

Personally I quite like the MT-01's looks but I suspect that the motor is still in cruiser tune and doesn't quite match them.

Edit: I would've test-ridden one last year before I got the Sporty, if Road & Sport hadn't had such an unpleasant approach. The salesman's apparent terror that I might not buy a new Harley after all lost him the whole kit and caboodle. Sales guys: if someone test-rides a new bike and then gets off it and takes an interest in some second-hand unit that you'll make less money off of, at least have the decency to pretend you're still keen to sell him something.

As always, I enjoyed my dealings with AMPS the following weekend.

Have had a selection of big bikes zx12r being the most powerfull but the mt has a differnt feel to it.The pull out of corners is more than enough with 160Nm at 2700 but what i like is it doesnt encourage me to keep climbing in a straight line.lets face it leaned at 35-45degree you cant put throttle on full at over 80 odd hp.You can add throttle while leaned on a race/sport bike but its not full throttle in the top 1/2its rev range.
Your correct it is a cruiser motor with some added compression but it works ok with half decent chasis,r1 swinger and nice brakes.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:37
what i like is it doesnt encourage me to keep climbing in a straight line.lets face it...

Preaching to the choir, brother. Look at what I'm riding now, I'm hardly obsessed with horse powers.

:sunny:

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:41
You want to talk 'grunt' - you have to talk Rocket III - it is unique.

For some reason I can't bring myself to ride one. I just find them mildly repulsive. (Which does of course beat the hell out of 'boring'.)

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 20:44
Preaching to the choir, brother. Look at what I'm riding now, I'm hardly obsessed with horse powers.

:sunny:


Yeah i find that having less can make you feel like your earning a good ride without being to silly.The enjoyment at 100 is the same as ultra sport riden at 150.It may be im just a little older now LOL.I liked my t100 when i had that but it just wasnt big enough for 2 up.

if ever I could have one back it would be the bmwr1200s

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:45
if ever I could have one back it would be the bmwr1200s

Mmm. I have no idea exactly what it'll be, but I know that one day I'll own a BMW R-something.

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 20:50
Mmm. I have no idea exactly what it'll be, but I know that one day I'll own a BMW R-something.

If you see a 1200s take one for a ride.If your not after excess of 120hp its bike perfection.

jrandom
30th March 2012, 20:55
I might just pop a few photos of my GSX1400 in here at this time, if that's OK by everyone...


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<img src="http://i43.tinypic.com/2lxdvzs.jpg"/>

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Ocean1
30th March 2012, 21:01
if ever I could have one back it would be the bmwr1200s

Been on my watch list for a while.

A friend's just acquired one, must bludge a ride...



Edit: MT01's also on the list.

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 21:01
looks good .Im into the muscle looking bikes nowdays.Have only seen the blue white ones.Is the black common?

i should get shots of mine now the trailers off and the carbon bits are on.theres a few bits on the mt01 that needed replaced with carbon to get rid of the excess ally look.The mirrors are next to go.The oem look very cheap.my bike was a mixture of hot and not so good in some areas.

Pussy
30th March 2012, 21:02
Nothing against YOUR MT-01, mossy... but I rode a second hand example here in NP on behalf of a mate who was interested in it to buy. I found the particular one that I rode to be possibly the most underwhelming bike I have ridden.

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 21:05
Been on my watch list for a while.

A friend's just acquired one, must bludge a ride...



Edit: MT01's also on the list.

whats his impression like.i just found it to handle perfectly yet not kill the body.they create alot of interest everywhere you go.

PS pick the bmw unless your happy with all torque and less handling

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 21:07
Nothing against YOUR MT-01, mossy... but I rode a second hand example here in NP on behalf of a mate who was interested in it to buy. I found the particular one that I rode to be possibly the most underwhelming bike I have ridden.

One of the biggest things is the tyres on it.Whole bike transforms.I found it was a bike that took a while to trust.most bikes I have owned felt like well worn gloves after a few blocks.the mt felt like a set of new gloves 2 sizes to small for several weeks.

PS whats NP stand for.Maybe im having brain fade its prob obvious

Ocean1
30th March 2012, 21:14
whats his impression like.i just found it to handle perfectly yet not kill the body.they create alot of interest everywhere you go.

Duno yet, haven't caught up since he got it. In some ways I don't like the boxers, they feel a bit flat, even while the clock's ramping up nicely. But I'd like to feel one in S trim.

zeocen
30th March 2012, 21:16
blackbird ^_______________________________________^

Ocean1
30th March 2012, 21:18
PS pick the bmw unless your happy with all torque and less handling

Not too short of either for now. But I get bored with anything eventually

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 21:21
Duno yet, haven't caught up since he got it. In some ways I don't like the boxers, they feel a bit flat, even while the clock's ramping up nicely. But I'd like to feel one in S trim.


The 1200s is up 35hp on the 1100 and down 30kg of weight.Its a different bike with claimed 127hp.Sure its not inline 4 power but its not a lazy motor like the others.they had(not sure if still do)a boxer cup in europe racing them.48degree lean angle before scraping tappet covers i think from memory.Grab his and ride it.Maybe its not your thing but i loved it and think idd run faster lap times on it than my old race bike if fear of dropping it wasnt a issue.

Pussy
30th March 2012, 21:22
PS whats NP stand for.Maybe im having brain fade its prob obvious

New Plymouth.
The one I rode had a few mods on it. It wouldn't idle, vibrated like a bastard. I actually WANTED to like it! Maybe I should try another some time.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 21:22
If money was no issue I would own a R 1200 GS.

It is and I own a KLR 650.

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 21:25
blackbird ^_______________________________________^

agree.had one and it liked scraping fairings if you rode hard.Suspension oem is very lacking.But i have owned a cx400 and thats a less fun bike LOL

Oscar
30th March 2012, 21:26
If money was no issue I would own a R 1200 GS.

It is and I own a KLR 650.

An 1200GS?
http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Cold-Kiwi-Weekend/DSCN3934/370160991_QmEKx-M.jpg
If money was no object?
Really?

I call bullshit...
http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Cold-Kiwi-Weekend/DSCN3958/370171900_WRsea-M.jpg

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 21:28
New Plymouth.
The one I rode had a few mods on it. It wouldn't idle, vibrated like a bastard. I actually WANTED to like it! Maybe I should try another some time.

If you put anything higher than 95 octaine they wont idle.the compression is to low for 98.
mines stock with gpr cans being the only performance change.

Ocean1
30th March 2012, 21:30
The 1200s is up 35hp on the 1100 and down 30kg of weight.Its a different bike with claimed 127hp.Sure its not inline 4 power but its not a lazy motor like the others.they had(not sure if still do)a boxer cup in europe racing them.48degree lean angle before scraping tappet covers i think from memory.Grab his and ride it.Maybe its not your thing but i loved it and think idd run faster lap times on it than my old race bike if fear of dropping it wasnt a issue.

Yeah, I've ridden 1200's, just not an S. It'll be a couple of months before I see the friend, we'll see.


If money was no issue I would own a R 1200 GS.

It is and I own a KLR 650.

The brother has one. He got it for a very friendly price, but says he'd just as soon have a non-R, shorter, less impeded with kilos of pointless bling. Supurb touring machine, very flexible but for me lacking that single unique hit.

mossy1200
30th March 2012, 21:31
[QUOTE=Oscar;1130293057]An 1200GS?

If money was no object?
Really?

I call bullshit...

LOL you stop on a bmw and people will try strip it for parts while you take a dump behind a bush.

EJK
30th March 2012, 21:45
If it can wheelie, then it's fun.

Big Dave
30th March 2012, 22:06
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Big Dave
30th March 2012, 22:16
I'd also own a Road King, a HP2 Megamoto, a Buell XB12X, the KLR and a Vespa GT300ie.

James Deuce
30th March 2012, 22:19
Honda CB1000 "Big One". It just "is".

puddytat
30th March 2012, 22:32
This was my most boring which, I purchased new.....
and sold 4mths later.
What was I thinking:facepalm:
Mind you the only other thing in the shop at the time was an MVX..





260807

GrayWolf
30th March 2012, 22:44
I haven't ridden an MT-01. kiwifruit got off my GSX1400 onto one and described it as 'wheezy'.

Personally I quite like the MT-01's looks but I suspect that the motor is still in cruiser tune and doesn't quite match them.

Edit: I would've test-ridden one last year before I got the Sporty, if Road & Sport hadn't had such an unpleasant approach. The salesman's apparent terror that I might not buy a new Harley after all lost him the whole kit and caboodle. Sales guys: if someone test-rides a new bike and then gets off it and takes an interest in some second-hand unit that you'll make less money off of, at least have the decency to conceal your frustration and pretend you're still keen to sell him something.

As always, I enjoyed my dealings with AMPS the following weekend.

I ride with a local who owns an XR1200 with PC, flowed pipes and K&N.... MT motor is not in cruiser tune......
my bike is 'neck n neck' with the above XR... so XR performance, big block revs....

GrayWolf
30th March 2012, 23:12
If you put anything higher than 95 octaine they wont idle.the compression is to low for 98.
mines stock with gpr cans being the only performance change.

thats odd, mines an 09 model and bog standard motor wise, idles and runs best on 95-98... go figure?
I cant comment on how much difference tyres will improve handling, this one the previous owner had an ohlins fitted and the front re-tuned at CKT. I know it handles far better than a standard one, and the pevious owner traded it for an SP (ohlins forks and rear) and reckoned it was better untill he had CKT work on the SP, that now is better than mine.

ducatilover
30th March 2012, 23:40
bmwr1200s
Stop it, the more you post pics the more I get reminded of when I first looked at them :love:

GrayWolf
31st March 2012, 00:54
most boring I've ridden? have to be the GL400 Honda gutless to the extreme and need to rev the nuts off it.

most boring bike I've owned? Honda XL250 (original single exhaust model)

mossy1200
31st March 2012, 09:01
thats odd, mines an 09 model and bog standard motor wise, idles and runs best on 95-98... go figure?
I cant comment on how much difference tyres will improve handling, this one the previous owner had an ohlins fitted and the front re-tuned at CKT. I know it handles far better than a standard one, and the pevious owner traded it for an SP (ohlins forks and rear) and reckoned it was better untill he had CKT work on the SP, that now is better than mine.

Mine doesnt like 91 or 98 .
It never idles well on 98 and has more power or 95.Mines also 09 model.Maybe they forgot to put a head gasket on yours or put 2 on mine by mistake.

mike oxbig
18th April 2012, 05:55
I owned a CB250N once also,.....mind you I was 17 at the time and the main goal was to see if I could make it rev to 14,000 rpm on each ride (it redlined at 10,200rpm). .....

dreadful bike...weighed about 1000 kilos and had about 10 bhp...truely dire machine

Wiki Drifter
18th April 2012, 19:53
Owned 7 bikes so far, none were boring. Most boring ridden would be a Suzuki GS500E. *Snore*

rastuscat
18th April 2012, 21:08
dreadful bike...weighed about 1000 kilos and had about 10 bhp...truely dire machine

Yup, I also had a CB250N.

Flogged it from Orkers to Invergiggle and back at Christmas 1982. Exciting? Not on your nellie. Flat out with luggage was maybe 120/125 indicated.

Traded up as soon as the dosh allowed, haven't had a boring bike since.

sugilite
18th April 2012, 22:08
Suzuki gsx750 ES, snoooooze

pritch
18th April 2012, 22:31
apart from when you want it to go around a bumpy corner or youre on and off with the throttle. then its a big fat wale cow to ride! :shit:

Mine didn't do that. An Ohlins and a PCIII did smooth things out, but it was never that bad.

I've ridden a variety of bikes, some were a bit ummm different(?), a DN-01 and a Goldwing come to mind, but none were boring.

I guess it's about context, ride the bike the way it was designed to be ridden. I enjoy the daily commute on my SJ50 but I'd probably get bored (and very uncomfortable) touring it. Also some of the bikes I liked at the time have less appeal now than they did back then.

With all the great bikes around at the moment there shouldn't be any real need for anyone to ride a bike they find boring. Then again, maybe it's not the bike? :whistle:

Scream
18th April 2012, 23:35
Thought the answer was pretty simple?

Most boring bike I've ridden is a GN250.. :L
Funnest bike I've ridden is my Dads 84 GSX750SE Katana

Owned? Well I've only owned two bikes, and neither are boring.. yupp, FXR150 was fun :D

meteor
23rd April 2012, 21:39
Seriously? wonder how comfortable this is...
http://www.holeshotmotorcycles.co.nz/vehicle_images.asp?vehicle_id=1495496&image_number=2

98tls
23rd April 2012, 21:43
Seriously? wonder how comfortable this is...
http://www.holeshotmotorcycles.co.nz/vehicle_images.asp?vehicle_id=1495496&image_number=2

:lol:Comfort whos bothered about comfort when you can throw a leg over that and look like a complete Knob.Sacrifices have to be made to look that stupid.

BMWST?
23rd April 2012, 21:52
apart from when you want it to go around a bumpy corner or youre on and off with the throttle. then its a big fat wale cow to ride! :shit:

that is a technique to be avoided at any cost,most bikes feel like shit if you go round corners like that

BMWST?
23rd April 2012, 21:54
but says he'd just as soon have a non-R, .

do you mean a r1200 gs as opposed to the adventure???

cheshirecat
23rd April 2012, 22:09
Panther 500 single. It wouldn't have been boring if I could've actualy started it but couldn't depress the kick start even with decompression on, as I was a skinny teenager runt those days, God I feel old mentioning this

meteor
23rd April 2012, 22:13
:lol:Comfort whos bothered about comfort when you can throw a leg over that and look like a complete Knob.Sacrifices have to be made to look that stupid.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 98tls again...

hahaha, egzakery!

Headbanger
24th April 2012, 09:23
You want to talk 'grunt' - you have to talk Rocket III - it is unique.

Funny enough my old boy whose lack of interest in cruisers (HD in particluer) extends to contempt bought himself a Rocket III a few months back.

Strange indeed for a man who buys a brand new GSX 1000 every year without fail.

Headbanger
24th April 2012, 09:29
Most boring bike I've owned?

1998 FXDS-C.

It was over a decade between Harleys and when I finally got back in the saddle of one it was..............Meh.


On a different note the Victory I saw at the servo the other day was pure awesomeness......I want one.

GrayWolf
24th April 2012, 18:05
I haven't ridden an MT-01. kiwifruit got off my GSX1400 onto one and described it as 'wheezy'.

Personally I quite like the MT-01's looks but I suspect that the motor is still in cruiser tune and doesn't quite match them.

Edit: I would've test-ridden one last year before I got the Sporty, if Road & Sport hadn't had such an unpleasant approach. something .


Preaching to the choir, brother. Look at what I'm riding now, I'm hardly obsessed with horse powers.

:sunny:

As has been pointed out before, HD big block revs, XR1200 performance. And yes it is still very much a cruiser lump, in the same vein as the HD big blocks, the Evo's would have been described as 'wheezy' back in the 80-90's.. they just needed free flow pipes (not noise per se) and many either put on mikuni pumper carbs, or bored out the OEM carb's throat by 2mm. Didnt make them 'more powerful' but snappier on throttle response.. its (MT) a big air cooled lump that has had to be tuned to get through emission/noise restrictions.
It isnt a bike focused on top end power.. I just did a wee 'blat' this afternoon which is a frequent road for most locals... the Paekakariki hill/battle hill... then the Haywards hill..... paekak' quite steep, narrow and twisty (some very tight ones) Down the other side (battle hill) also very twisty but opens up about midway into more flowing bends.... basically 4th gear 70-110kph 90% of the way with little intervention of brakes, just use the torque and engine braking. You'll have a similar 'feel' with the XL1200 I'd imagine.

GrayWolf
24th April 2012, 18:22
Panther 500 single. It wouldn't have been boring if I could've actualy started it but couldn't depress the kick start even with decompression on, as I was a skinny teenager runt those days, God I feel old mentioning this

Hahhahaa bloody good job it wasnt the 650 then.. we had an old bastard in our local biker pub (UK) and we all (yours truly included) used to razz him up about riding a bloody old slow piece of crap..... (for those who dont know, it had a ridiculous stroke length and urban legend was it fires every other lamp post. 60mph flat out, solo, watsonian double adult sidecar loaded with wife kids n dog, pulling your house, climbing mount everest with said sidecar, 60mph) He got fed up and one of the lads was 'challenged (not me thankfully) to kick said Panther over... Old fucker left it in full advance and it send said snooty nosed teen over the bars.. I am sure he'll still be limping today.

Ocean1
24th April 2012, 18:52
do you mean a r1200 gs as opposed to the adventure???

Sorry, yes. Reckons the R1200 GS Adventure is about as good off-road as he is, so he'd be better off without the extra height, travel and tankage.

It's a damn fine touring waggon, but agree that he'd probably do as well with the lower, lighter beastie. His also has the spoked wheels and a lot of other OE fruit, he'd probably do well out of a trade.

martybabe
24th April 2012, 19:45
Panther 500 single. It wouldn't have been boring if I could've actualy started it but couldn't depress the kick start even with decompression on, as I was a skinny teenager runt those days, God I feel old mentioning this

Yay, I wasn't skinny or a runt but I couldn't walk properly for days after attempting to kick one of those 650s into life, ferkin things :clap:.

Most boring bike I ever rode: Yamaha bulldog, don't know if you had them here in NZ, kind of a forerunner to the MT I guess. 'twas all noise and nowt else.

Most exciting; a Yamaha RD250 two stroke, it was a long time ago now but I have fond memories of cracking open the throttle and nothing happened, nothing, nothing, nothing, then H O L Y S H I T E!! afterburners agogo. Narrow power band, 20 something horsepower but man it was my very own rocket on a stick.

vifferman
24th April 2012, 20:26
Interesting topic for a thread. The most boring bike I've ridden would have to have been a Honda 400 I test-rode as a replacement for the XBR500RS Mutant. I don't remember if it was the GB400 or whatever the v-twin model is, but I *do* remember pulling out to pass a car and failing miserably.

Strangely, another bike I found rather boring was a CBR1000. It was on a demo ride, so there was little opportunity to cane it. It was actually the smoothest, most pleasant bike I've ever ridden, and I couldn't help thinking it would have ended up being rather anodyne and characterless. I had a lightly customise VF500FF at the time, and a VFR750 after that, both of which had heaps of character and lots to like. A runner-up to the CBR would have been a GSX1200 - had a nice aftermarket muffler, but (very surprisingly) seemed SO buzzy and ho-hum.

98tls
24th April 2012, 20:36
Boring i can live with disappointing is something else so my vote goes for a 90 900SS,absolute utter fucking turd,wish i had kept it as at least these days i have a use for its intended purpose,an anchor.

BMWST?
24th April 2012, 20:39
Interseting topic for a thread. The most boring bike I've ridden would have to have been a Honda 400 I test-rode as a replacement for the XBR500RS Mutant. I don't remember if it was the GB400 or whatever the v-twin model is, but I *do* remember pulling out to pass a car and failing miserably.

Strangely, another bike I found rather boring was a CBR1000. It was on a demo ride, so there was little opportunity to cane it. It was actually the smoothest, most pleasant bike I've ever ridden, and I couldn't help thinking it would have ended up being rather anodyne and characterless. I had a lightly customise VF500FF at the time, and a VFR750 after that, both of which had heaps of character and lots to like. A runner-up to the CBR would have been a GSX1200 - had a nice aftermarket muffler, but (very surprisingly) seemed SO buzzy and ho-hum.

a flatmate had a vf 750 s(horrible) then got a vf750 r very very nice,although a wee bit too nice,then got a vf1000....the 750 was prolly a better bike in every way,but man that 1000 had the nicest engine,and a passable bike to go along with it

98tls
24th April 2012, 20:44
For boring i nominate another turd i had the misfortune to buy (fell into the name on the tank trap) an 89 750 Ducati,they had the nerve to call the thing a "Sport",complete with Hillman hunter carb...

Jerry74
24th April 2012, 20:44
Most boring bike I have ridden would be CBX250RS yuck .....

Flip
24th April 2012, 20:51
My Dad had a Panther solo. This pic was probably taken in early 50's.

262542

My vote would be a CB100.

98tls
24th April 2012, 21:03
My Dad had a Panther solo. This pic was probably taken in early 50's.

262542

My vote would be a CB100.

Dont be to hasty mate,would probably be more exciting than a 90 900SS.

avgas
24th April 2012, 21:57
Owned : Kawasaki K100. 98cc of fucked out 2-stroke badness. The exhaust leaked, had the compression of a Ethiopian doing CPR
Owned (2nd Place) : SRX4. Everything was wrong with this bike. Even the idle was set to a stupid 400 rpm. Owner was a harley owner and had not a clue how a OHV bike was suppose to run/ride. Took months to sort out.

Ridden : VFR400. Cabin Bread had more flavour and excitement. Powerband was a bit flat nothing (Probably a brown one). If I wanted smooth I would blend my peanut butter.
Ridden (2nd place) : FXR150. Not a bad bike, good speed. But felt like a giant Bernina.
Ridden (3rd place) : VW Trike. It was like all the bad parts of a bike, and all the bad parts of a car - combined. Driving a motorhome with no power steering is easier.

Surprise Eliminations : GN250, GN125, 883 Sporty, ZZR1100, XS850
All rode surprisingly well.

AllanB
25th April 2012, 14:25
Yeah, the Hornet 900 was my immediate thought.

Don't get me wrong I think they're brilliant bikes, but I just found riding them kinda dull. They do everything you'd put down on paper that you'd want a bike to do, but they just seem to lack a soul.


Nah -just need some money thrown at them - Yoshi pipes gave mine some personality and a engine kick at the right point. TR fixed the suspenders. Plus one of the reasons I purchased it was that it was a excellent blank canvas to fluff around with modifying to suit my taste/needs. The box of removed stock parts is growing. Got my eye on a carbon fibre front guard now ..... I don't 'need' it ....... Having said that I parked up next to a stock standard one the other day and it looked boring, bawahahaha.


Everything I've ever ridden has had some fun factor in it. Having said that I've test ridden plenty of really big ticket bikes and came away wondering why the fuck people pay that for them.

My next ride may possibly be one that in stock form is boring - a new Bonnie. But what a excellent starting point for a project.

AllanB
25th April 2012, 14:34
Boring i can live with disappointing is something else so my vote goes for a 90 900SS,absolute utter fucking turd,wish i had kept it as at least these days i have a use for its intended purpose,an anchor.


I remember a few years back doing a few decent test rides on a HD open day. I'd rocked up on my old 1983 750 twin Kawa I'd owned for 20 plus years (since sold) and jumped straight on one of the FXLCHDUD big blocks. It was twice the weight, had less power, worse brakes and cornered just as poorly as my old Kawasaki. What a friggen let down. A change to a Sporster improved things, but I never forget thinking $30k for this!


For the record there are HD's I do like.