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The Pastor
2nd April 2012, 12:42
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. How do you go around corners.

Can Robert Taylor or someone improve the suspension on cruisers?

So wobbly at high speed in corners.

And WOW dose the front twin discs feel like the rubber brakes on an old moutain bike!!!

Impressive rear brake tho.

The Singing Chef
2nd April 2012, 13:01
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. How do you go around corners.

Can Robert Taylor or someone improve the suspension on cruisers?

So wobbly at high speed in corners.

And WOW dose the front twin discs feel like the rubber brakes on an old moutain bike!!!

Impressive rear brake tho.

From my understanding, you are not supposed to take corners on a cruiser. My advice is to find a nice stretch of straight road, unload the bike off the trailer and go for gold.

gijoe1313
2nd April 2012, 13:20
Because you are not wearing tassles and arseless chaps, which help to corner the cruiser! Also, you are meant to get off the bike, push it around the corner before resuming straightlining. :oi-grr:

willytheekid
2nd April 2012, 13:29
:laugh:

I hear ya!

I just went from a 95 1100 Guzzi sport, to a +300kg XV1600 Midnight star!

The difference in riding style is HUGE!!
And I laughed like hell in regards to your comments about the front brakes....must be a cruiser thing to equip them with massive brakes that are connected with an old garden hose! :laugh: I have completely stripped & rebuilt both of my front calipers etc and there still shit!...gonna get braided lines to see if they help the issue
...where as the rear brake is just amazing!? (strongist back brake Ive come across to be honest)

As for suspension, its usually quite limited functionality wise on crusiers (No rebound damping etc), but anything can be improved :yes: (Im looking at progressive springs, new internal dampners & trying different oil weights)

Main thing mate...its a cruiser! and should be treated as such, if you push it hard...your gonna learn a painful leason :yes:...when a cruiser reaches its "limit"...they don't give you much warning, and they are actually HARDER than a sport bike, to regain control of when the shit hits the fan.

In short....slow down & cruise...enjoy the comfort and that big V-Twin ;)

FJRider
2nd April 2012, 13:36
From my understanding, you are not supposed to take corners on a cruiser. My advice is to find a nice stretch of straight road, unload the bike off the trailer and go for gold.

Nah ... Cruiser riders never use the front brake. If he took it off and gave it a good clean ... all will be well. :yes:

Chances are ... the front suspension is slogged out anyway. From the 2 1/2 tonne's of gear the tie on them to go to rallys ... :facepalm:

Virago's are only show bike's ... you're not really supposed to ride them ... on the roads. :innocent:

Bald Eagle
2nd April 2012, 13:55
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. .

So why'd you buy it then.
Have done over 14 thousand k on my boulevard ,daily 100km round trip on a road with corners. No problems.

ducatilover
2nd April 2012, 14:00
When the sparks come out of the bike in corners it means you're a pussy and going too slow.

Big Dave
2nd April 2012, 14:03
'95 huh. It probably still has the original fork oil, needs a wheel alignment and the shocks are munted.
Steering head corroded and swing arm bushes shagged too.

baffa
2nd April 2012, 14:04
Is it on decent rubber?
Ive seen a couple of Cruiser riders with impressive corner speeds in my usual haunts around coastville-riverhead highway.
In saying that, I could keep up on a 250, but still.

iYRe
2nd April 2012, 14:07
yeah I just replaced the front pegs on my Volusia 800 cuz I keep wearing down the edges..

They _do_ go around corners, you just have to attempt them at a more sane speed. I can keep up fine with my mates on their sports bikes.. Its just roundabouts that cause me grief

ducatilover
2nd April 2012, 14:13
yeah I just replaced the front pegs on my Volusia 800 cuz I keep wearing down the edges..

They _do_ go around corners, you just have to attempt them at a more sane speed. I can keep up fine with my mates on their sports bikes.. Its just roundabouts that cause me grief

Unless they ride faster than you can punt a cruiser.;)

iYRe
2nd April 2012, 14:14
Unless they ride faster than you can punt a cruiser.;)


well, if they rode their bikes like I ride mine... but they're girls :P (no disrespect to the females on the forum :P)

Insanity_rules
2nd April 2012, 14:52
Serves you right for buying a virago LOL

ducatilover
2nd April 2012, 15:01
well, if they rode their bikes like I ride mine... but they're girls :P (no disrespect to the females on the forum :P)

I got beaten by a girl once...:pinch::facepalm: but I ride like a pussy

Maha
2nd April 2012, 15:24
Because you are not wearing tassles and arseless chaps, which help to corner the cruiser! Also, you are meant to get off the bike, push it around the corner before resuming straightlining. :oi-grr:

Dont....he'll do it...and end up looking like one of those ashen females I once mentioned not so long ago in a time when men were men...:corn:

avgas
2nd April 2012, 16:07
I blame the Government.

The Pastor
2nd April 2012, 16:38
i was going to upgrade the exhaust 1st, but now i think i'll upgrade the forks and shocks 1st, get them going pretty sweet.

Any good suspension guys in Auckland that know how to set up cruisers?

Big Dave
2nd April 2012, 16:42
You can do it. The only adjustment most of them have is rear pre-load anyway.

You don't need high performance components - just working ones.

Edbear
2nd April 2012, 16:46
'95 huh. It probably still has the original fork oil, needs a wheel alignments and the shocks are munted.
Steering head corroded and swing arm bushes shagged too.

But on a positive note... Oh... :innocent:

Big Dave
2nd April 2012, 16:50
But on a positive note....

....it runs.

The Pastor
2nd April 2012, 16:54
steering head bearings are ok, i'll check out the swing arm at some point in time.

going to need better springs at least in the forks. Gotta set it up for some hard and fast riding.

awa355
2nd April 2012, 17:04
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. How do you go around corners.

Can Robert Taylor or someone improve the suspension on cruisers?

So wobbly at high speed in corners.

And WOW dose the front twin discs feel like the rubber brakes on an old moutain bike!!!

Impressive rear brake tho.

There's a KB'r , name of Kevie,( Waikato LOR), has one of these for sale, ( unless it's his, you have just bought, in which case, I dont know his name), He might be able to help.

Bought my first cruiser after 40 years riding every other style, and had to re learn to ride. Piece of cake now, They were better bikes than you make them out to be. Persevere, you will get to like it.

mossy1200
2nd April 2012, 17:12
Take the handle bars off and fit t bars and slide your arse from one side to the other.It shouldnt go fast enough to need brakes.

varminter
2nd April 2012, 19:55
Christ on a crutch, and I was thinking of getting a 1500 one of those things, now you've put me off.

Madness
2nd April 2012, 20:00
What the fuck were you thinking?


Gotta set it up for some hard and fast riding.

Right. You're planning on rooting your boyfriend on it. I get it now.

Pogo2
2nd April 2012, 20:07
yeah I just replaced the front pegs on my Volusia 800 cuz I keep wearing down the edges..

They _do_ go around corners, you just have to attempt them at a more sane speed. I can keep up fine with my mates on their sports bikes.. Its just roundabouts that cause me grief

There is one roundabout I go through and I feel like I'm steering a aircraft carrier. Other than that they are all good.

Subike
2nd April 2012, 20:12
DONT brake hard into a corner with the front, you will end up on your ass
use the brakes together, more rear than front,
start your braking earlier for the corners
Dont use the countersteering movement of pushing on the bars, which all KB"ers promote to the max
that just upsets the front end by putting your weight on the front wheel,
instead pull on the bars, taking the weight off the front wheel.
but its still countersteering, just a different way.
Try this at a slow speed, and if it works for you then....
use the whole lane to take a corner, longer lines,
in other words from the side of the road to the center line then back to the side.
Make sure your tire pressures are right, can make a huge difference,
and lean back, relax , enjoy the ride....

Tigadee
2nd April 2012, 20:13
So wobbly at high speed in corners.

Uhhhh, how 'high' speed is high?

SMOKEU
2nd April 2012, 20:14
I blame the Government.

+1 to that.

Zamiam
2nd April 2012, 20:22
Gotta set it up for some hard and fast riding.

Aye what!! I think you've missed the point :facepalm:, it's a cruiser :brick:

skinman
2nd April 2012, 20:23
how you get them round corners depends on how the bike is setup
I do push through as I have found that doing that drops my shoulder in & reduces the scrapage, also I tend to corner with the throttle, roll off on the way in, roll on at apex to stand bike up for straight, all gently of course, doing anything suddenly will unsettle bike & it will get scared & go straight on. If you need to use the front brake to slow for a corner use it early, as you tip in be releasing the front, you can trail the rear till quite late if you need to scrub off speed & also use the engine for braking.
It will never be as fast in the tight stuff as a sprot bike but much more relaxed on the more open road.

have fun

frogfeaturesFZR
2nd April 2012, 21:25
Did a track day at HD in feb and there was a guy there on a 1700 Vulcan. He hammered that thing round the track. They handle ok, you just have to ride within the limitations of the frame.

SMOKEU
2nd April 2012, 21:30
Why not just buy a bike that's designed to go around corners properly? I can understand that not everyone enjoys the riding position of a sports bike as much as I do, but there are plenty of bikes out there which handle quite well without having to bend over the fuel tank. A Hornet or Bandit are the first things which spring to mind.

Subike
2nd April 2012, 21:34
It will never be as fast in the tight stuff as a sprot bike but much more relaxed on the more open road.

have fun


Bwa hahaha

Madness
2nd April 2012, 21:34
I reckon you should buy a DR650.

ducatilover
2nd April 2012, 21:48
Bwa hahaha

I don't get it?

Subike
2nd April 2012, 21:55
I don't get it?

not as fast as a sprot bike in the twistys,

thats what I am laughing at,

but there are other makes of cruzers in the right hands, will be a serious challenge to a sprot bike in twisties

And many cantabrians will know well a certain beaten up old 1340 softtail that is raced at ruapuna which quite often well ahead of the buels

in the right hands.

GrayWolf
2nd April 2012, 22:07
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. How do you go around corners.

Can Robert Taylor or someone improve the suspension on cruisers?

So wobbly at high speed in corners.

And WOW dose the front twin discs feel like the rubber brakes on an old moutain bike!!!

Impressive rear brake tho.

Not to scare you, the 1100 Virago was the first V twin I owned, I traded a Kwaka 1000 on it. For 3 months I wondered why the fuck I had bought such a heap of shit.... (I was giving it full bore on a UK motorway on the Kwaka, indicated 150, and had one of those epiphany moments).. Anyway, the XV1100 was reckoned to be the best handling cruiser in those days, the VN's HD's were far worse, and it was quicker than the 1200 Evo sporty.
Cornering..... you need a completely different style of cornering. Set up the corner early, rather than HARD braking, gentle brakes, use the torque rather than sprot bike gear changes. Have the corner speed 'set' before entering it, Out wide, apex ONLY as it reaches the point your view round the bend is beginning to open, then back out wide... making the corner as straight as possible. Cruisers are about smooth riding style. Dont try to corner at anywhere near sprot bike speeds until you've mastered the technique needed. Once you have you'll be surprised how quickly you can hustle them round.

Brakes? you're about right, even compared to the old 80's kwaka brakes,they werent exactly fantastic, a bloody good sqeeze!! Oh and a lot of the Yammy calipers of those days were prone to seizing up. Rear drum was brilliant for feel and power. There is some amount of engine braking, your actually better off to lose speed early into corners by allowing some engine braking first.

Suspension? It's a cruiser, soft, wallowy and spongy. AND I'll say again the VX outhandled all comers in the 1980 for cruisers. A set of Ikon's on the rear will work wonders, and if not progressive springs, thicker oil and a little 'extra' 15-25cc will improve things. I can assure you the XV1100 handled far better than my VN1500C, but choice for handling? Was the Guzzi California 1100 I owned in the mid to late 90's......

ducatilover
2nd April 2012, 22:15
not as fast as a sprot bike in the twistys,

thats what I am laughing at,

but there are other makes of cruzers in the right hands, will be a serious challenge to a sprot bike in twisties

And many cantabrians will know well a certain beaten up old 1340 softtail that is raced at ruapuna which quite often well ahead of the buels

in the right hands.
That argument is invalid.
I can keep up with a poorly driven Lamborghini in my father's Hilux. That means the Hilux can go around corners well.

I'll find a reasonable rider, put 'em on a sport bike, and the same for a cruiser, which will be faster...

Anything poorly ridden will be slower than anything ridden well (unless we're talking S1000RR vs CT90)

Subike
2nd April 2012, 22:24
That argument is invalid.
I can keep up with a poorly driven Lamborghini in my father's Hilux. That means the Hilux can go around corners well.

I'll find a reasonable rider, put 'em on a sport bike, and the same for a cruiser, which will be faster...

Anything poorly ridden will be slower than anything ridden well (unless we're talking S1000RR vs CT90)

Fair enough
OP has now a bit of information to work with,
And my find his ride will become more fun as he learns its limits
Adjusts his riding to suit the bike.
Not try and change the bike to suit his riding style

ducatilover
2nd April 2012, 22:28
Fair enough
OP has now a bit of information to work with,
And my find his ride will become more fun as he learns its limits
Adjusts his riding to suit the bike.
Not try and change the bike to suit his riding style

Agreed.
And if it's too hard I'll be happy to chug around on it for him, because I'm a nice guy like that.

gatch
2nd April 2012, 22:39
Cut 50mm off the fork spring and put in 70mm of preload spacer, use straight 50 motor oil for the fork oil. Safe.

As for the rear, dump the shocks and make it rigid, then use about 20psi in the rear tire for absorbing bumps.

Mean bro :crazy:

baptist
2nd April 2012, 23:10
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. How do you go around corners.

. try a set of these, they might help... 261262:innocent:




+1 to that. Now Prick Smiff is gone it's all Judith Collins fault... no wait better not say that she will sue me :facepalm:

Virago
2nd April 2012, 23:12
Dude.

I mean, come on.

You're seriously too cool to ride a Virago. Seriously.

I've noticed it time and time again. If you put someone who's really cool on a cruiser, they look like a complete twat, and ride like a total n00b.

Your street cred is at stake here. Don't do it, eh...

jonbuoy
3rd April 2012, 00:12
The good news is that riding a bike that doesn't handle well will do more for your riding and road skills than you thought possible. (if you survive.....)

phill-k
3rd April 2012, 08:08
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. How do you go around corners.

Can Robert Taylor or someone improve the suspension on cruisers?

So wobbly at high speed in corners.

And WOW dose the front twin discs feel like the rubber brakes on an old moutain bike!!!

Impressive rear brake tho.

Dragging your rear brake in any slow cornering such as u turns, round-a-bouts really helps control, keeps the bike standing up and you can bring it in real tight.

PirateJafa
3rd April 2012, 09:24
I've noticed it time and time again. If you put someone who's really cool on a cruiser, they look like a complete twat, and ride like a total n00b.

Well, RM has always looked like a twat and ridden like a nub. Maybe the inverse will hold true and he'll finally look cool? :whistle:

HenryDorsetCase
3rd April 2012, 09:46
I got beaten by a girl once...:pinch::facepalm: but I had to pay extra


Oh yeah, I hear that.

ducatilover
3rd April 2012, 09:47
Cut 50mm off the fork spring and put in 70mm of preload spacer, use straight 50 motor oil for the fork oil. Safe.

As for the rear, dump the shocks and make it rigid, then use about 20psi in the rear tire for absorbing bumps.

Mean bro :crazy:
Mint ideas, can you come fix my bike? I have a sad bit of chrome on the forks, so if we cut that part of the tube and weld it back up, it'll be legit as.

The good news is that riding a bike that doesn't handle well will do more for your riding and road skills than you thought possible. (if you survive.....)

Should also help ones buying choices too :shutup:

gijoe1313
3rd April 2012, 10:44
Dont....he'll do it...and end up looking like one of those ashen females I once mentioned not so long ago in a time when men were men...:corn:

What is seen cannot be unseen! :crazy: Well, I guess he just wants to put mean as ape hangers on and some chromed out bling, his inner cruisier rider is coming out ... :eek5:

onearmedbandit
3rd April 2012, 10:45
Dont use the countersteering movement of pushing on the bars, which all KB"ers promote to the max


Really? All 'KBers'? And promote to the max? Really? Been here since day one and never seen any evidence of this.

The Pastor
3rd April 2012, 11:28
Not to scare you, the 1100 Virago was the first V twin I owned, I traded a Kwaka 1000 on it. For 3 months I wondered why the fuck I had bought such a heap of shit.... (I was giving it full bore on a UK motorway on the Kwaka, indicated 150, and had one of those epiphany moments).. Anyway, the XV1100 was reckoned to be the best handling cruiser in those days, the VN's HD's were far worse, and it was quicker than the 1200 Evo sporty.
Cornering..... you need a completely different style of cornering. Set up the corner early, rather than HARD braking, gentle brakes, use the torque rather than sprot bike gear changes. Have the corner speed 'set' before entering it, Out wide, apex ONLY as it reaches the point your view round the bend is beginning to open, then back out wide... making the corner as straight as possible. Cruisers are about smooth riding style. Dont try to corner at anywhere near sprot bike speeds until you've mastered the technique needed. Once you have you'll be surprised how quickly you can hustle them round.

Brakes? you're about right, even compared to the old 80's kwaka brakes,they werent exactly fantastic, a bloody good sqeeze!! Oh and a lot of the Yammy calipers of those days were prone to seizing up. Rear drum was brilliant for feel and power. There is some amount of engine braking, your actually better off to lose speed early into corners by allowing some engine braking first.

Suspension? It's a cruiser, soft, wallowy and spongy. AND I'll say again the VX outhandled all comers in the 1980 for cruisers. A set of Ikon's on the rear will work wonders, and if not progressive springs, thicker oil and a little 'extra' 15-25cc will improve things. I can assure you the XV1100 handled far better than my VN1500C, but choice for handling? Was the Guzzi California 1100 I owned in the mid to late 90's......


Dude.

I mean, come on.

You're seriously too cool to ride a Virago. Seriously.

I've noticed it time and time again. If you put someone who's really cool on a cruiser, they look like a complete twat, and ride like a total n00b.

Your street cred is at stake here. Don't do it, eh...



So what fuel economy do you get? I just filled up the 1st tank and got 10lkm/l! Somethings wrong there

Virago
3rd April 2012, 12:47
So what fuel economy do you get? I just filled up the 1st tank and got 10lkm/l! Somethings wrong there

Fairly spirited riding, around 16 to 17 km/l. Even two-up with full luggage makes little difference to economy.

They don't have a huge fuel range. The 16.8 litre tank can only take around 14 litres - because the fuel cap is not at the top of the tank...:facepalm: I can get around 200-210 kms to reserve, with another 30-40 kms on reserve. The fuel warning light should let you know about 10 km before reserve.

If you want it to go fast - forget it. It's a cruiser - you're suppose to cruise. Would you buy a race-spec sportsbike to go serious off-roading?

Having said that, I push mine along quite comfortably. I keep up without effort on the mixed bike group rides. Cornering is no problem, the sound of scraping metal will let you know when you're reaching the limits.

Speed - it will cruise along nicely at 120, still happy out to 140 (with good pick-up), getting uncomfortable at 150-160, max out at 180 (at which stage it feels like it's going to explode). If you want it to go any faster than that, throw it out of a plane.

It sounds like you've got some issues with your machine. I'd start with getting the front end overhauled.

HenryDorsetCase
3rd April 2012, 14:14
bacon grease is better than fork oil. All I'm saying. Gotta be freedom farms though

tristania
23rd April 2012, 19:33
Golly gosh indeed..I've got an XV250 Virago... it's okay to ride while I get my road confidence back, but I feel like I need moar power, want to take the corners faster and getting sick of being blown all over the road..... I wonder if it's worth graduating to a 750 cruiser or just get a sporty bike :)
Do bigger cruisers handle the same as smaller ones?

mossy1200
23rd April 2012, 19:52
Golly gosh indeed..I've got an XV250 Virago... it's okay to ride while I get my road confidence back, but I feel like I need moar power, want to take the corners faster and getting sick of being blown all over the road..... I wonder if it's worth graduating to a 750 cruiser or just get a sporty bike :)
Do bigger cruisers handle the same as smaller ones?

Worsa:nya:

Subike
23rd April 2012, 19:54
Golly gosh indeed..I've got an XV250 Virago... it's okay to ride while I get my road confidence back, but I feel like I need moar power, want to take the corners faster and getting sick of being blown all over the road..... I wonder if it's worth graduating to a 750 cruiser or just get a sporty bike :)
Do bigger cruisers handle the same as smaller ones?


your in windy welly right, mmm
well i ride a copy of your cruiser, and its fun
but I normally ride a 480kg SX1100 yammy, and its fun too
a bigger cruiser will be more stable, but not as much fun
Taking corners faster? have you been able to scrape the foot-pegs on your 250?
I have been trying to on mine for the past 6 weeks, all I have managed to do is remove the chicken strips from both tires.
Just thinking, in welly, the camber on the road might be more than what it is here in chch, so peg scraping might be possible.....

tristania
23rd April 2012, 21:23
your in windy welly right, mmm
well i ride a copy of your cruiser, and its fun
but I normally ride a 480kg SX1100 yammy, and its fun too
a bigger cruiser will be more stable, but not as much fun
Taking corners faster? have you been able to scrape the foot-pegs on your 250?
I have been trying to on mine for the past 6 weeks, all I have managed to do is remove the chicken strips from both tires.
Just thinking, in welly, the camber on the road might be more than what it is here in chch, so peg scraping might be possible.....

Alllmost a bit of scrapage on the footpegs...feels like bugger all ground clearance.. I have been told it looked like I was on the verge of scraping taking a what I thought was an easy corner, so it's a matter of time! and yup there are some twisties here alright :)

The Pastor
24th April 2012, 15:25
Alllmost a bit of scrapage on the footpegs...feels like bugger all ground clearance.. I have been told it looked like I was on the verge of scraping taking a what I thought was an easy corner, so it's a matter of time! and yup there are some twisties here alright :)

its normal for pegs to scrape the ground,

Flip
24th April 2012, 21:20
All I can say is; slow in, watch your line in the apex and fast out. Works for me.

ducatilover
24th April 2012, 21:22
its normal for pegs to scrape the ground,

My GN seems obsessed with it, stupid bike.

mossy1200
24th April 2012, 21:32
My GN seems obsessed with it, stupid bike.

Hang your lazy ass off the side like I had to last bike.

ducatilover
24th April 2012, 21:34
Hang your lazy ass off the side like I had to last bike.

I do hang off, :lol::lol: not the freshest in the suspension area.

That is a damn gorgeous machine :drool::2thumbsup

mossy1200
24th April 2012, 21:38
I do hang off, :lol::lol: not the freshest in the suspension area.

That is a damn gorgeous machine :drool::2thumbsup

I tend to bling then sell at massive loss. I hate money I guess.

ducatilover
24th April 2012, 22:02
I tend to bling then sell at massive loss. I hate money I guess.

I want, need, have to have that one! That's a stunner.
I can't give you moar reps.

Give me four weeks, my Ginny will look just like that

mossy1200
24th April 2012, 22:17
I want, need, have to have that one! That's a stunner.
I can't give you moar reps.

Give me four weeks, my Ginny will look just like that

Got it new and spent some coin on it and in 12months everything chrome had rusted and been replaced under warrenty. Lovely bike but I lost faith and sold it after all the chrome issues. Always garaged and never riden in the wet. So much fun to ride but so disappointed with the rusting.

Subike
24th April 2012, 22:19
Got it new and spent some coin on it and in 12months everything chrome had rusted and been replaced under warrenty. Lovely bike but I lost faith and sold it after all the chrome issues. Always garaged and never riden in the wet. So much fun to ride but so disappointed with the rusting.

Must have been all that Chinese chrome :bleh:

ducatilover
24th April 2012, 22:19
Got it new and spent some coin on it and in 12months everything chrome had rusted and been replaced under warrenty. Lovely bike but I lost faith and sold it after all the chrome issues. Always garaged and never riden in the wet. So much fun to ride but so disappointed with the rusting.

That's pretty unacceptable (except it's British, so it's kind of expected) :cool:

mossy1200
24th April 2012, 22:30
Must have been all that Chinese chrome :bleh:

Yep and it wasnt just small dots of rust. Rims,spokes,headlight rim,mudguard supports,shocks, mirrors and handle bars. I think the other chrome bits were chromed plastic lol.

My latest obsession is carbon fibre on the MT. I found it was easier than polishing dirty parts.

Flip
24th April 2012, 23:16
I will shift my weight around but it just looks wrong on a Harley.

262565

Subike
24th April 2012, 23:23
Yep and it wasnt just small dots of rust. Rims,spokes,headlight rim,mudguard supports,shocks, mirrors and handle bars. I think the other chrome bits were chromed plastic lol.

My latest obsession is carbon fibre on the MT. I found it was easier than polishing dirty parts.

yeah, been watching your MT-01 develop, to say i am envious would be an understatement.

Since they first come on the market, I have desired to own one..

To me they are what the Harley Sportster should have become,

Having taken one for a test ride, I will have one parked between my XS1100's one day,

But need to get my full license first

GrayWolf
25th April 2012, 12:02
[QUOTE=Flip;1130309964]I will shift my weight around but it just looks wrong on a Harley.


I'm just too LAZY to shift my arse around, would mean eating more pies!

GrayWolf
25th April 2012, 12:03
yeah, been watching your MT-01 develop, to say i am envious would be an understatement.

Since they first come on the market, I have desired to own one..

To me they are what the Harley Sportster should have become,

Having taken one for a test ride, I will have one parked between my XS1100's one day,

But need to get my full license first

Could always get an XR1200..... even I admit that's a nice looking sporty and performs about the same as the MT.

mossy1200
25th April 2012, 13:17
Could always get an XR1200..... even I admit that's a nice looking sporty and performs about the same as the MT.

There is a ultra cheap mt01 on tard me for 11k buy now.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-466568318.htm

ducatilover
25th April 2012, 13:47
Could always get an XR1200..... even I admit that's a nice looking sporty and performs about the same as the MT.

I thought the MT would out strip one of them?
Only modern Hardley I'd own.

haydes55
25th April 2012, 14:21
Yep and it wasnt just small dots of rust. Rims,spokes,headlight rim,mudguard supports,shocks, mirrors and handle bars. I think the other chrome bits were chromed plastic lol.

My latest obsession is carbon fibre on the MT. I found it was easier than polishing dirty parts.

Those pics could be on a poster if the background was more flattering! Just not a fan of the muffler tips from behind.

mossy1200
25th April 2012, 15:29
Those pics could be on a poster if the background was more flattering! Just not a fan of the muffler tips from behind.

Yeah the gpr finish isnt flash at all. I may get the baffles removed from the originals and reinstall them. cost $400 to do that then sell the gprs afterwards. they do sound good though. Other option is to price getting the tips replaced with a better looking end.

GrayWolf
25th April 2012, 20:49
I thought the MT would out strip one of them?
Only modern Hardley I'd own.

THe XR produces 95hp, but less torque, also revs to 7k approx. I have a local I have ridden with, whose XR has had the pipes reflowed, power commander fitted and K&N filter.... they are basically neck and neck...
So yes the MT would be faster than a standard XR1200, but not worth writing on the wall about.

ducatilover
25th April 2012, 21:01
THe XR produces 95hp, but less torque, also revs to 7k approx. I have a local I have ridden with, whose XR has had the pipes reflowed, power commander fitted and K&N filter.... they are basically neck and neck...
So yes the MT would be faster than a standard XR1200, but not worth writing on the wall about.

That's quite interesting :yes: have you ridden the XR? They're a grouse looking machine, if they ride different to a 1200 Sport then I'll certainly ride one. The MT is a bit cooler in my books though

Subike
25th April 2012, 21:26
somehow I dont think that the new XR1200 in std trim would be a challenge to the MT-01 in std trim

something to do with a few more cc's, hp, and a tad more torque.
Agree the XR is a very nice kit, but no longer available new here, thanks to the Aussies not importing them any more.
Anyways, threads about cruisers , fun beasts to enjoy a slow ride on with a hot Chicky babe on the back.

carburator
25th April 2012, 22:40
So i recently bought a 95 virago 1100.

WOW

What a shit house bike. How do you go around corners.

Can Robert Taylor or someone improve the suspension on cruisers?

So wobbly at high speed in corners.

And WOW dose the front twin discs feel like the rubber brakes on an old moutain bike!!!

Impressive rear brake tho.

Did'nt you go for a test ride first?

avgas
26th April 2012, 15:58
Just make it Yamaha. Then I will buy it.
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Subike
26th April 2012, 18:14
Just make it Yamaha. Then I will buy it.



You mean like this one?

Check out the rear disc brake

Big Dave
26th April 2012, 20:13
You mean like this one?

Check out the rear disc brake

Interesting how many put shite on the under slung muffler when Buell first unveiled it on the XBs and now it's du jour.
I guess that rear disc also reduces unspringerated weight.

Be interesting to hear an engineer's thoughts on whether it puts more load on the chain. That thing doesn't look like it needs help stretching chains.

Be a killer stunt bike with some KLR handlebars on it. Really like it except for the paint, I'm not that fussed on.

mossy1200
26th April 2012, 20:24
Interesting how many put shite on the under slung muffler when Buell first unveiled it on the XBs and now it's du jour.
I guess that rear disc also reduces unspringerated weight.

Be interesting to hear an engineer's thoughts on whether it puts more load on the chain. That thing doesn't look like it needs help stretching chains.

Be a killer stunt bike with some KLR handlebars on it. Really like it except for the paint, I'm not that fussed on.

With the front sprocket being smaller than the rear then the disc would turn alot faster. Say sprockets at 15 to 45 etc would be disc turning 3 times as often as if it would on the rear wheel. This would mean it would slow the acceleration of the bike due to revolving mass and you couldnt use that weight as a form or replacement for a flywheel weight due to it not revolving as mass when bike in neutral or clutch engaged. I think thats making for a bad design.

avgas
26th April 2012, 20:42
You mean like this one?

Check out the rear disc brake
Some parts I like, some I dont.

Not keen on the disc so close to my ankle.

Would still prefer the Yamaha Factory Release of the MT-OS, goes back to the hall marks of my first proper road bike - an RZ250.........but with more awesome

The Lone Rider
27th April 2012, 13:22
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Here's some cruisers.

So that this thread is a bit more cruiserish.

tristania
27th April 2012, 14:58
Nice Magna :devil2:

The Lone Rider
28th April 2012, 11:16
Nice Magna :devil2:

... there are three different magnas in that photo and out of the three, 2 different models.

Big Dave
9th May 2012, 17:27
http://www.bikeexif.com/yamaha-virago-920