Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water

[Katman]

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Anyone who claims there's nothing amiss has clearly got their eyes wide shut.

[Pussy]

I have often wondered how a 757 can virtually leave no debris. There should have been more left of the Petagon one and the Pennsylvania machines.

[Oakie]

Conspiracy theorists generally piss me off.

[Usarka]

Conspiracy theorists generally piss me off.

Aren't you one of those people that think global warming is a myth and the majority of the scientists in the world are conspiring to lie to us?

[James Deuce]

Aren't you one of those people that think global warming is a myth and the majority of the scientists in the world are conspiring to lie to us?

No, like me he's one of those people who can see a bunch of scientists competing for a dwindling pot of research funding happy to throw caution and integrity to the wind in an attempt to keep their department running. Truth has nothing to do with Capitalist research funding models.

All the great breakthroughs were made by a few people who had enough money chucked at them to not worry about where the next spud was coming from. The only research project in the last 100 years that was successful despite having more money and industrial effort thrown at it than all the world's industrial might of the time combined was The Manhattan Project.

[Usarka]

No, like me he's one of those people who can see a bunch of scientists competing for a dwindling pot of research funding happy to throw caution and integrity to the wind in an attempt to keep their department running. Truth has nothing to do with Capitalist research funding models.

So you believe it's a conspiracy.

[James Deuce]

So you believe it's a conspiracy.

I'm going with a series of loosely connected fuck ups, but that's a pretty cool conspiracy theory video. It certainly caught my attention.

[mashman]

ha ha ha haaaaaaa great vid, had me roaring... blingage to ya

[oldrider]

Anyone who claims there's nothing amiss has clearly got their eyes wide shut. (Katman)

Even with my eyes wide open ... I could never claim to know the "truth or otherwise" about these damn things! :facepalm:

[mossy1200]

Im wondering if watching that clip has put me on a watchlist somewhere.If I disappear its either the gubberment or my wife has seen another ebay purchase on her visa card via paypal.

[Laava]

Has anyone seen Mossy1200 lately?

[Kickaha]

I have often wondered how a 757 can virtually leave no debris. There should have been more left of the Petagon one and the Pennsylvania machines.

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp

[Oakie]

Aren't you one of those people that think global warming is a myth and the majority of the scientists in the world are conspiring to lie to us?

No. I think it's probably a reality.

[mossy1200]

No. I think it's probably a reality.

Suka cause now they call it climit change because the earth is cooling.

[Bikemad]

a bit off topic but...........i saw elvis at the supermarket today!

[EJK]

Screw that 9/11 conspiracy bullshit...



...I want my KONY!

[Usarka]

No. I think it's probably a reality.

So what you meant to say was "conspiracy theorists piss me off unless it's a conspiracy theory that I believe".

[avgas]

When I went to ground zero my conclusion of the whole thing was very simple.
It did not matter. Regardless of who was at fault - it was a big fucken mess.

Say the gubbermint did it - you can't trust them

Say terrorists did it - you can trust the gubbermint cos they let them in.

Its a lose-lose situation.

[Edbear]

The US government would not destroy it's highly valued symbols of US power and economics including its iconic WTC, (and its own people in them), just to garner support for its war on terror. Totally ludicrous and unneccesary.

It would be like NZ's govt. blowing up the Beehive and the Reserve bank, (and the people working in them), to justify targetting Triad gangs here.

[caspernz]

Having seen a few documentaries on the whole 9/11 tragedy, there's no question that what happened and the official version of events are at odds.

To drop a 757 into a field in Pennsylvania without leaving any aircraft debris is a first for starters.

As for the US government being behind the whole thing....I dunno....all I recall is lots of questions that haven't been answered in a satisfactory manner.

This event is a bit like the shooting of JFK, fodder for many to salivate over for years to come.

[onearmedbandit]

The US government would not destroy it's highly valued symbols of US power and economics including its iconic WTC, (and its own people in them), just to garner support for its war on terror. Totally ludicrous and unneccesary.

It would be like NZ's govt. blowing up the Beehive and the Reserve bank, (and the people working in them), to justify targetting Triad gangs here.

Uh no it wouldn't. For one triads don't have oil. Secondly, we don't have a multi-billion dollar war industry. And I'm more of a '9/11 believer' than a conspiracy follower, but I do agree there appear to be some major cover ups and questions being avoided.

[Edbear]

Uh no it wouldn't. For one triads don't have oil. Secondly, we don't have a multi-billion dollar war industry. And I'm more of a '9/11 believer' than a conspiracy follower, but I do agree there appear to be some major cover ups and questions being avoided.

I was struggling to think of a NZ equivalent... :innocent:

But considering the magnitude of the failure to prevent it, you would expect those in power to be trying to cover their backsides and say "It wasn't my fault!"

[Kickaha]

To drop a 757 into a field in Pennsylvania without leaving any aircraft debris is a first for starters.

You need to read a few more reports, plenty of wreckage was found including engines

[Fast Eddie]

haha.. :stoogie:

doubt you'd catch an American keen to fly a plane into a building.. only the a-rabs get down like that.. and the japs..

[mossy1200]

Maybe someone should enquire at the annual hijackers meeting to see if they know what really happened.

[schrodingers cat]

Conspiracys are largely unnecessary when there is an oversupply of pure incompetance

[Oakie]

So what you meant to say was "conspiracy theorists piss me off unless it's a conspiracy theory that I believe".
Nah. I said what I meant.

[Woodman]

a bit off topic but...........i saw elvis at the supermarket today!

yea , but did you see how cheap soap powder was?

[caspernz]

You need to read a few more reports, plenty of wreckage was found including engines

Ah okay, so the versions I've read and watched so far have all been skewed towards the conspiracy theory version. Cheers.

[avgas]

You need to read a few more reports, plenty of wreckage was found including engines
Just the wrong ones.......not even from the correct manufacturer.

[unstuck]

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[Tigadee]

I was struggling to think of a NZ equivalent...

Perhaps bombing the Beehive and Reserve Bank to blame the Fijians in order to invade and exploit their coconut oil resources?

[nodrog]

http://favim.com/orig/201108/16/911-disrespect-dope-high-horrible-Favim.com-124293.jpg

[Kickaha]

Just the wrong ones.......not even from the correct manufacturer.

Yeah sure, whatever you and the rest of the conspiracy nutjobs say