GingerMidget's new bike!

[GingerMidget]

I finally got one!

A 2005 Suzuki En125, in blue, which has been christened Zach.

Photo shameless stolen from the trademe ad. :clap:

[Ocean1]

Nice. Just in time for a wee weekend fang.

[slofox]

I wanna see a pic of you riding it now. Pleeeeeeze?

[SMOKEU]

Get your knee down.

[mossy1200]

You can do donuts in my street.My neighbours love bikes for some reason.They always wave and shout encouragement at me anyway.

[sil3nt]

What happened to the Megelli you told us you bought? Seems to be a different bike every week :bleh:

[GingerMidget]

I hated the megelli.
This one, I LOVE.

Work tomorrow, and then I'll go out and play. Anyone want to escort a newbie?

[FJRider]

A cool bike. It will take you o lot of places. Go girl ...

[Scuba_Steve]

Work tomorrow, and then I'll go out and play. Anyone want to escort a newbie?

My fees start at 60$ an hour but this does not include sex, thats extra. I also do kinky, but that will come with a hefty fee dependent on just how kinky.

[SMOKEU]

My fees start at 60$ an hour but this does not include sex, thats extra. I also do kinky, but that will come with a hefty fee dependent on just how kinky.

How much for "2 girls 1 cup" sort of kinky?

[Scuba_Steve]

How much for "2 girls 1 cup" sort of kinky?

get me a brand new Britten & we'll talk ;)

[SMOKEU]

get me a brand new Britten & we'll talk ;)

Looks like we'll have to settle for "find the sausage" instead.

[GingerMidget]

Both of you can take a hike now

[Zedder]

Congratulations GM!

[SMOKEU]

Both of you can take a hike now

Hiking isn't really my thing.

[mossy1200]

Its the kind of bike that will sell for around what you payed for it when you want to upgrade.Nice condition and great for a comuter around the City also.Get the skills up and prepare for LAMS changes then you can keep it maybe for your town bike and get a open road bike also.

[Bald Eagle]

I hated the megelli.
This one, I LOVE.

Work tomorrow, and then I'll go out and play. Anyone want to escort a newbie?

nice work, get the grin factor going. There's still a couple of months of good riding weather before the Welly winter kicks in.

[Glowerss]

Congrats :) Looks like a great little bike! You'll have heaps of fun on it I reckon. What was wrong with the migelli just out of curiosity? You don't see much being said about them.

[GingerMidget]

The other one is quite a big bike for a small person, it wanted to rev a lot more than i was comfortable with, and was quite an advanced feeling position. This is more neutral in all ways.

I don't know where i'm going tomorrow on my first real ride as owner, but i'll no doubt take some pics

[rustic101]

Well done GM. Don't forget, Insurance, good gear, and a great attitude towards your new responsibility.

[Madness]

Congratulations Fanta Pants! :niceone:

[GingerMidget]

Well done GM. Don't forget, Insurance, good gear, and a great attitude towards your new responsibility.

Insurance is already paid :D Someone awesome found me an awesome deal. I'm calling them monday to switch the cage insurance over too. I can't believe how much cheaper bike insurance is compared to car!

All in all, there will be people hating on it for only being a 125, but i'd kill myself a lot faster on a 250. At least this way, should i come to harm, i might walk away. Plus i feel comfortable getting it wedged in behind my car, so clearly i can walk it backwards which was on my must have list.

At the end of the day, only I will be riding it (unless i really trust you) so i have to be happy. I am.

[gatch]

Pics of you, naked, on or near the bike.

It's the rules. Welcome to first bike ownership. :headbang:

[unstuck]

NICE. :2thumbsup well done you.

[MadDuck]

Congrats on your first bike. There is no going back now :cool:

[BMWST?]

The other one is quite a big bike for a small person, it wanted to rev a lot more than i was comfortable with, and was quite an advanced feeling position. This is more neutral in all ways.

I don't know where i'm going tomorrow on my first real ride as owner, but i'll no doubt take some pics

of course you will,the welly tag is at the end of a great wee local ride.

[oneofsix]

Welcome to Zach. Look forward to seeing it feature in a tag and a picture of you on it Ginger Midget.
As for the current tag I wouldn't have used the words wee or local :laugh: but certainly a great ride.

[GingerMidget]

Looking at the tag, i have no idea where it is. I haven't got any photos of my on it yet. But i've got plenty of time to sort that ;)

[curly]

:clap::clap::headbang::headbang:

Now go here
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140033-KB-Arses-The-Revival!.

[sil3nt]

Pics of you, naked, on or near the bike.

It's the rules. Welcome to first bike ownership. :headbang::stupid:

Pics.

[GingerMidget]

All of you so keen to see my arse, how do you know its not wider than I am tall?

[scumdog]

All of you so keen to see my arse, how do you know its not wider than I am tall?

I don't care!;)

[sil3nt]

All of you so keen to see my arse, how do you know its not wider than I am tall?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY84MRnxVzo

[caspernz]

Congrats Ginger! Nothing wrong with going up to a bigger bike in small steps. Enjoy tripping around the local biking roads at your own pace :2thumbsup

[Tigadee]

I don't know where i'm going tomorrow on my first real ride as owner, but i'll no doubt take some pics

Congrats and enjoy!

Reminds me of the Scorpio...

[gatch]

All of you so keen to see my arse, how do you know its not wider than I am tall?

Irrelevant.

[mossy1200]

All of you so keen to see my arse, how do you know its not wider than I am tall?

My camera does panoramic shots bring it around for photo shoot.

[nzspokes]

Good on ya. Now go enjoy it and find some great people to ride with.

[mossy1200]

Good on ya. Now go enjoy it and find some great people to ride with.

May require looking further than on KB?

[FJRider]

My camera does panoramic shots bring it around for photo shoot.

She's only young ... a wide angle lens should probably do the job. If not ... there's always photo-stitch ...

[ducatilover]

If your arse is wider than you are tall, lie on your side.

Duh.

[Gone Burger]

Good on you girl. Lovely wee bike there that will bring you a lot of good times and brilliant days. Sunday is looking perfect for a late summers day so do a lunch missing out to somewhere, make the most of it. Am riding myself that day with another girlfriend, but we are zipping out to the drags at Masterton.

Enjoy your new noble stead. :)

[neels]

Nice work.

A bike is a bike, ride what you want to ride, and most of all enjoy yourself because that's the whole point of the game.

[Edbear]

Congrats and enjoy!

Reminds me of the Scorpio...

Another great learner's bike! :yes:



I finally got one!

A 2005 Suzuki En125, in blue, which has been christened Zach.

Photo shameless stolen from the trademe ad. :clap:

Congratulations on a great little bike and I know you're going to have a ball on it! I started on a BSA Bantam 125 and it was fun in spades around town. Yours will be somewhat faster than the Bantam... :innocent:

Even when you progress to a bigger bike, you may want to consider keeping the 125. I sure wish I still had the Bantam today!

[Madness]

May require looking further than on KB?

You're missing StoneY, aren't you. :bye:

[SMOKEU]

+1 to pics or it didn't happen.

[GingerMidget]

I left work around 3, after mangling an old L plate to get it on. Apparently this was funny? I've been home long enough to defrost in the shower, but Oh. My. God. I had an absolute ball. Who needs drink when they have bike?!

Though I'm sure a drink would be great right now. Or even some food. Too busy riding to stop and eat. Whoops.

I'm planning on riding tomorrow. I've still got a butt load of gas, and I have some parents to scare. Again.

[oneofsix]

I left work around 3, after mangling an old L plate to get it on. Apparently this was funny? I've been home long enough to defrost in the shower, but Oh. My. God. I had an absolute ball. Who needs drink when they have bike?!

Though I'm sure a drink would be great right now. Or even some food. Too busy riding to stop and eat. Whoops.

I'm planning on riding tomorrow. I've still got a butt load of gas, and I have some parents to scare. Again.

Which is going to scare them most, you on the new bike or you on a pantry raid?
Glad you had a good ride and are really enjoying your new bike. :wings:

[GingerMidget]

mmm raiding mums fridge...

She has all the good shit since i moved outta home almost 8 years ago. suddenly i feel nostalgic.

But then I think about having to drive an hour to get to work. No. Just no.

[GrayWolf]

Congrats GM, nothing wrong with the wee GN125.... look forwards to seeing you on the road.... We (partner and I) may go for a 'short ride' later Sunday.. drop me a PM if you are interested...

[GingerMidget]

Congrats GM, nothing wrong with the wee GN125.... look forwards to seeing you on the road.... We (partner and I) may go for a 'short ride' later Sunday.. drop me a PM if you are interested...

Will do!
I'm having the most unorganised day in history, so I don't want to make too much in the way of plans. I just realised I promised someone breakfast, and its now 11am and I'm still in my pj's. She's coming here with bagels and coffee. LOL.

I have to buy tropical fish stuff today too, so the likelihood of a ride is low. Especially before I clean the moth off my helmet. I swear it was the size of a golf ball once it impacted on my visor. Stupid nature.

[FJRider]

mmm raiding mums fridge...

She has all the good shit since i moved outta home almost 8 years ago. suddenly i feel nostalgic.

But then I think about having to drive an hour to get to work. No. Just no.

Raiding mum's fridge .... memories ...

But now it's riding an hour to get to work ...

[GingerMidget]

I'd rather not move home. Much as I love my parents, I hate living with them. So I'll stick with my 5 minute walk/one minute ride. I swear it takes longer to put my gear on, that it does to walk to work

[blackdog]

I'd rather not move home. Much as I love my parents, I hate living with them. So I'll stick with my 5 minute walk/one minute ride. I swear it takes longer to put my gear on, that it does to walk to work

You will have to move further away from work.

[FJRider]

I swear it takes longer to put my gear on, that it does to walk to work

Yep ... the 20 minute ride takes 40 minutes ... when you include putting it on, and taking it off afterwards ...

[rustyrobot]

When I got my first bike after a long time saving, I found that it took me twice as long to get to/from work than it did when I was riding my mountain bike... because I kept finding excuses to take the (very) long way home :yes:

[ducatilover]

When I got my first bike after a long time saving, I found that it took me twice as long to get to/from work than it did when I was riding my mountain bike... because I kept finding excuses to take the (very) long way home :yes:

Same here, I turned a 140km round trip in to 240+km each day :sunny:

[GingerMidget]

Heres another pic, I might have one of me on it later if I plan well enough.

[mossy1200]

Why arnt you out riding it?

[GingerMidget]

Because I still don't have pants on

[mossy1200]

Because I still don't have pants on

You went out a took photo of your bike without pants on?Where do you live?I might need park in your st alot.

[ducatilover]

Because I still don't have pants on

Goooooooooooooooood.

[GingerMidget]

hahaha nah that photo was taken last night outside a friends place before i rode home. It may have taken me a couple of hours to get home, cos I may have gotten lost. Don't follow someone who knows where they are going, especially when you don,t and you don't know their hand signals. LOL.

I got stuck behind a car at an intersection, and he forgot about me. I found his house by sheer dumb luck.

[blackdog]

Jump on your bike now and you won't fall off. Kinda like a suction cup.

[mossy1200]

hahaha nah that photo was taken last night outside a friends place before i rode home. It may have taken me a couple of hours to get home, cos I may have gotten lost. Don't follow someone who knows where they are going, especially when you don,t and you don't know their hand signals. LOL.

I got stuck behind a car at an intersection, and he forgot about me. I found his house by sheer dumb luck.

Now it makes sence.You went to a friends place last night and now you cant find your pants.

[ducatilover]

Jump on your bike now and you won't fall off. Kinda like a suction cup.

Best advice ever :rockon:

[GingerMidget]

Two hours riding. My first wheelie. My first hill start. :innocent:

So the wheelie was totally an accident. But I'm claiming it. I gave it far too much and the clutch decided it was going to jump right out. I felt it touch down, maybe an inch in height but I just about died laughing after I realised what I'd done. Started out from work, round the bays, back up through brooklyn, northland, thorndon, up to grenada village, coffee, then back to town again then home. It was awesome!

[GingerMidget]

Gingermidget+bike!

[FJRider]

..... It was awesome!

And long may the feeling remain. It's been with me for almost 40 years now ...

[sil3nt]

Good looking GPX in the background!

[mossy1200]

Fail .You said you had a big bum .KB discourages the use of not truths.

[ducatilover]

Good looking GPX in the background!

:facepalm::facepalm::nya::nya::whistle:




Heh...


That is all. Carry on son.

[Edbear]

Gingermidget+bike!

Looks like you made a good choice. The bike seems the ideal physical size for you and starting out with this one means you should get maximum fun out of motorcycling from the start. You will learn faster and gain confidence more quickly.

The real cool thing about making a "sensible" choice like this is that you have also bought a nice bike that you like without feeling you have somehow "had to compromise."

[kiwifruit]

Good bikes. What sort of tyres are on it? :innocent:

[GrayWolf]

Gingermidget+bike!

good pic GM.. and btw... to us old geezers? thats a CUTE ass....not a middle aged size ass....

[jellywrestler]

Gingermidget+bike! nice toy, clearly no-ones gone over the bike and set it up for you yet, make sure you get that sorted soon as it's hard enough being behind the eight ball riding around wellington, without extra things that don't need to make it harder.
And Suzuki's Rock too, even little ones

[jrandom]

thats a CUTE ass...

You're being creepy, man.

[Madness]

clearly no-ones gone over the bike and set it up for you yet, make sure you get that sorted soon

Is there any chance at all you'd be happy to adjust her suspenders?

[jrandom]

Is there any chance at all you'd be happy to adjust her suspenders?

I didn't realise how young she was until I saw that photo.

I no longer approve of KB's ubiquitous rabid sexualisation of this poor girl. How do you think it makes her feel?

She's so much more than a piece of meat. She's someone's daughter. She has hopes and dreams, some of which may not involve any of your penises.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

[ducatilover]

I didn't realise how young she was until I saw that photo.

I no longer approve of KB's ubiquitous rabid sexualisation of this poor girl. How do you think it makes her feel?

She's so much more than a piece of meat. She's someone's daughter. She has hopes and dreams, some of which may not involve any of your penises.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Surely thou jest?

[Newbi]

You and your bike look awesome GM, you sexy leather clad biker chicky :love:;)

[Madness]

I no longer approve of KB's ubiquitous rabid sexualisation of this poor girl.

Will GingerMidget drop off the radar once someone starts tapping it? - Place bets now!
So all bets are off then?


How do you think it makes her feel?
Let's not go there.


You should be ashamed of yourselves.
262043

[jrandom]

So all bets are off then?

Nah, still on, but whoever taps it is a deviated prevert.

By the way, I really frickin' hope 'Newbi' isn't some overweight middle-aged lesbian. Because that would not help the picture.

[Madness]

You and your bike look awesome GM, you sexy leather clad biker chicky :love:;)

You two need to get a room.

[oneofsix]

GM you and Zach make a good looking pair. Read your post on your wheelie and I must say the story goes well with your signature :laugh:

[GingerMidget]

Setting up my bike? Newbie! I Don't know what I need to change?

I'm not That young. But I do resent the 'tapping that' comments. I'd ask people to stop, but its the internet, and I know its not going to happen. So it mostly gets ignored.

[jrandom]

You two need to get a room.

I'd actually quite like to hear GingerMidget's take on the fact that everyone's quickly pigeonholed her as a life-support system for a vagina.

Does it bother you, GM? Or is there no such thing as bad attention?

I guess it could be made to work in one's favour.

Still.

Yuck.

My daughter's going to be 10 next month and I swear that if she runs into the likes of any of you cunts over the next decade they'll be biting the kerb.

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[Newbi]

Nah, still on, but whoever taps it is a deviated prevert.

By the way, I really frickin' hope 'Newbi' isn't some overweight middle-aged lesbian. Because that would not help the picture.

You'll never know will you.

[jrandom]

You'll never know will you.

Actually, I probably will.

I'll either see a photograph of you, meet you in person myself, or hear about you from someone who has.

That's the way it works around here.

[jrandom]

Setting up my bike? Newbie! I Don't know what I need to change?

What tyres is it wearing?

[ducatilover]

Nah, still on, but whoever taps it is a deviated prevert.

By the way, I really frickin' hope 'Newbi' isn't some overweight middle-aged lesbian. Because that would not help the picture.

But she's the same age as me :oi-grr:

[Madness]

biting the kerb.

Cool stick man picture, dude. Did you make it yourself?

[mossy1200]

Setting up my bike? Newbie! I Don't know what I need to change?

I'm not That young. But I do resent the 'taping that' comments. I'd ask people to stop, but its the internet, and I know its not going to happen. So it mostly gets ignored.

I didnt want to tape anything.Last thing i need is a scandle tape on the net.

Thruth is im disapointed that you dont have large bottom as previously hinted

[Newbi]

Actually, I probably will.

I'll either see a photograph of you, meet you in person myself, or hear about you from someone who has.

That's the way it works around here.

Oh well all good then aye. So depending on who ya talk to, you could get a very interesting take on who i am. But bearing in mind that not many on here know anything about me, I'm not really worried. The opinions of some of the scum stains on here are of no importance in the big scheme of things.

[jrandom]

Cool stick man picture, dude. Did you make it yourself?

No, just a quick Google image search. I was hoping for a frame from American History X, but the stick picture's almost better, don't you think?

[jrandom]

scum stains on here

The scent of your suppressed rage is sweet.

You should let it out more.

[Madness]

No, the stick picture's almost better, don't you think?

Definitely. It has a certiain ambience of instability about it.

[Newbi]

The scent of your suppressed rage is sweet.

You should let it out more.

Why Thank you, you're too kind:laugh:

[jrandom]

I do resent the 'tapping that' comments. I'd ask people to stop, but its the internet...

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[GingerMidget]

But she's the same age as me :oi-grr:

Physical or mental?
Bahahahaha

Bring geoff down at some stage, and him and Zach can make bad noises together :whistle:

Maybe convince your brother to come down too. Unless he still likes bmws. In which case he can stay where ever he is.:nya:

[ducatilover]

Physical or mental?
Bahahahaha

Bring geoff down at some stage, and him and Zach can make bad noises together :whistle:

Maybe convince your brother to come down too. Unless he still likes bmws. In which case he can stay where ever he is.:nya:

Mentally I'm still a zygote...so yeah.
I think a road trip on Geoff will be on the cards.
He's going to be down this way with his fiancee soon, driving a BMW of course :sweatdrop
(in his defence, I am also a BMW nut, probably even more so)

[jellywrestler]

Setting up my bike? Newbie! I Don't know what I need to change?


Firstly if you'd bought from a dealer they should have had L plates on the shelf and fitted the correct type in a suitable place. L plates are to warn others around you that you're new at this and hopefully they'll give you a bit of space it's a safety thing etc. They're only a couple of bucks and more importantly if I was a dealer I would be keen as hell to help a first bike customer as they'll be needing another bike and another bike...

Secondly and way more important is the piccy of you on your bike clearly shows you are only just able to touch the brake lever with the tips of your fingers. There's very little feel in the tips of the fingers and very little strength too, you need to make contact with the lever a bit further down your fingers in your learner days particulalry.
Suzukis have adjustable brake levers available for many bikes I'd be surprised if you can't find one that will fit the EN in town that will suit your hands. $20 dollars ish three minutes to fit and you can keep your old one as a spare, sell it on trade me or scrap value.
It may be that there's not an adjustable one available off the shelf, but one may be able to be adapted with a little extra effort as brakes are quite important on a Motorcycle

Ditto with the clutch travel, I see you mention a wheelie when riding. Was this a learners error or is the clutch not adjusted well for your finger span? likewise with the angle of the levers to the h bars, this varies on different people and that may be an issue
The brake and gearchange lever position is variable and among other things depending on the length of your ones feet and whether you're heel or instep is on the footpeg as to where the levers should be adjusted to, also depends on how long ya legs are as to the actual angle of your feet etc ( http://cycle-ergo.com/ ).

Fumbling for any controls costs time, fucks up your smoothness while riding and can take away your concentration, you need none of that when riding, especially if you're new at it.
Five minutes and usually a ten mm spanner will get most of this sorted.
Buying off trade me can be a great thing, but it doesn't always come with an experienced eye to make sure the bikes adjusted to suit you.

[GingerMidget]

Hrmm, no it didn't come with an l plate, and I didn't know about adjusting the levers. They feel ok to me, so maybe its just the photo? I stalled a bunch of times today, but that was my first experience with real traffic. Which made me a little nervous.

Only I'd take a thermos in a back pack to churton park to pick up some baby tropical fish. On a motorbike.

[GrayWolf]

You're being creepy, man.

considering your remark on tapping?
Quote Originally Posted by jrandom
Will GingerMidget drop off the radar once someone starts tapping it? - Place bets now!

I think you should consider just how hypocritical you sound.... and as for tapping? Nah I am almost old enough to be her gramps.
I have a lovely partner thanks, and it was GM herself who made comment her behind is wide, I simply disagreed 'tongue in cheek'.... so go and wallow in testosterone over the concrete sandwich you are rabbiting on about handing out to one of us in the future...... sheeesh grow up man.

[Newbi]

considering your remark on tapping?
Quote Originally Posted by jrandom
Will GingerMidget drop off the radar once someone starts tapping it? - Place bets now!

I think you should consider just how hypocritical you sound.... and as for tapping? Nah I am almost old enough to be her gramps.
I have a lovely partner thanks, and it was GM herself who made comment her behind is wide, I simply disagreed 'tongue in cheek'.... so go and wallow in testosterone over the concrete sandwich you are rabbiting on about handing out to one of us in the future...... sheeesh grow up man.

Well said:yes:

[GrayWolf]

Hrmm, no it didn't come with an l plate, and I didn't know about adjusting the levers. They feel ok to me, so maybe its just the photo? I stalled a bunch of times today, but that was my first experience with real traffic. Which made me a little nervous.

Only I'd take a thermos in a back pack to churton park to pick up some baby tropical fish. On a motorbike.

GM,,, try setting up the levers so the top edge at the front of each lever is just level with the line of the top joint of your middle/index fingers... you'll find they wont slip so easy when/if you have wet/cold fingers with reduced feeling or strength. it makes a huge difference to operating them.. and it IS more comfortable over a distance or using the clutch in traffic.

[jrandom]

NO YOU ARE

Heh.

It's creepy because you're old, man.

I'm probably verging on young enough to get away with hitting on her without it being remarkable, socially speaking. We're only ten years apart or thereabouts.

But men telling girls young enough to be their granddaughters that they have nice bottoms is creepy.

S'just the way it is.

[GingerMidget]

GM,,, try setting up the levers so the top edge at the front of each lever is just level with the line of the top joint of your middle/index fingers... you'll find they wont slip so easy when/if you have wet/cold fingers with reduced feeling or strength. it makes a huge difference to operating them.. and it IS more comfortable over a distance or using the clutch in traffic.

Thanks for that!
I'll talk to someone about getting that done. I may bribe redbeard with food/beer to have a look for me. Oh no, I'll have to ride to work. What a shame. LOL

[rustic101]

Only I'd take a thermos in a back pack to churton park to pick up some baby tropical fish. On a motorbike.

If you're going to be carrying stuff around you may want to think about a top box.

[GingerMidget]

I don't want or need a top box.

If it won't fit in my small back pack, then I'll take the cage.

[nzspokes]

Thanks for that!
I'll talk to someone about getting that done. I may bribe redbeard with food/beer to have a look for me. Oh no, I'll have to ride to work. What a shame. LOL

Levers are a very important thing to get sorted. Ive changed my new bike out to new brake lever to make it closer and have put a stop on the clutch to bring it closer. Look at your gear/rear brake lever to. Doesnt take long to do and makes you at one with the bike.

Top boxes rock.

[ducatilover]

Levers are a very important thing to get sorted. Ive changed my new bike out to new brake lever to make it closer and have put a stop on the clutch to bring it closer. Look at your gear/rear brake lever to. Doesnt take long to do and makes you at one with the bike.

Top boxes rock.

I think I have two sets of adjustable levers for the ZZR :yes: I've fitted 'em to everything I've owned.

[GingerMidget]

The clutch definitly feels like it wants adjusting. I'll take it in tomorrow after work and get them to have a quick squizz and see if it can be fixed.

It feels like its starting to engage when the lever is right in, and i think that might have been behind a fairly decent stall at the tory street lights.

[FJRider]

I don't want or need a top box.

If it won't fit in my small back pack, then I'll take the cage.

Don't be too hasty ....

They are lockable (and take some effort to remove from the bike) ... and some are big enough for one ... or more ... helmets. Throw-over saddlebags are a good option for carrying gear. (Both options ... easily used, and can be fitted on your next BIGGER bike)

Pack rack frames are a cheap option.

[ducatilover]

Don't be too hasty ....

They are lockable (and take some effort to remove from the bike) ... and some are big enough for one ... or more ... helmets. Throw-over saddlebags are a good option for carrying gear. (Both options ... easily used, and can be fitted on your next BIGGER bike)

Pack rack frames are a cheap option.

The real reason is to fill 'em up with bricks and mercury to pull sweet wheelies.

:shifty:

[GrayWolf]

Heh.

It's creepy because you're old, man.

I'm probably verging on young enough to get away with hitting on her without it being remarkable, socially speaking. We're only ten years apart or thereabouts.

But men telling girls young enough to be their granddaughters that they have nice bottoms is creepy.

S'just the way it is.

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[GingerMidget]

Thanks for the input RE: top boxes.

I still have to learn how to deal with wind, so I'll leave adding more stuff to help me get blown over til I'm a bit more confident.

[FJRider]

The clutch definitly feels like it wants adjusting. I'll take it in tomorrow after work and get them to have a quick squizz and see if it can be fixed.

It feels like its starting to engage when the lever is right in, and i think that might have been behind a fairly decent stall at the tory street lights.

These are what the upper and lower adjusters look like. You shoul be able to adjust these yourself. The theory is to extend the OUTER cable.

Adjust in small amounts ... and check for amount of improvement after each time.

[FJRider]

The real reason is to fill 'em up with bricks and mercury to pull sweet wheelies.

:shifty:

Nah ... I fill 'em with BEER .... :shifty:

[GingerMidget]

Thanks for that. I'm gonna bribe someone with food tomorrow to have a look at it. Or i'll just take it down to where i got it and ask for help. That would be the smarter option.

Plus it means I then spend a bit more time in traffic, which should help with the whole 'eep there are cars everywhere and people are watching me look like an idiot' complex i seem to have developed overnight.

I'm incredibly concious of the big shiny l plate, and people negative perceptions of learner riders. All I can hear in the back of my head is my douchey ex telling me I should stay away from anything with two wheels, and its affecting my confidence a little. Never mind him though, I just need to work on one thing at a time, and stop over complicating things. Its a hill start, not the beginnings of some big race.

[FJRider]

I don't want or need a top box.

If it won't fit in my small back pack ....

Your back doesn't look that small ... <_<

[GingerMidget]

Your back doesn't look that small ... <_<

Context...

Ah wait. This is KB

[mossy1200]

The guys at your work are into bikes.They should adjust clutch for you.Do they like the bike?

[Madness]

The guys at your work are into bikes.They should adjust clutch for you.Do they like the bike?

See that really long button on your keyboard, the one closest to you? It's called a space bar. You should try it some time :niceone:

You're welcome.

[GingerMidget]

Gerry thinks its cool. Karl rides an R1.
The other bike guy hasn't been at work in ages so hasn't seen it. I might see if one of them wants to have a look at Zach and see if we can get this done easily.

[FJRider]

The guys at your work are into bikes.They should adjust clutch for you.Do they like the bike?

Thats what workmates are for. How could they not like it ???

[blackdog]

You will need to start putting together a toolbox of your own now too. The lads might have an old box and some ringspanners to get ya started.

[Oakie]

I just need to work on one thing at a time, and stop over complicating things. Its a hill start, not the beginnings of some big race.

Wow. This thread so reminds me of my first few weeks / months riding waaaaay back in 1978. Happy happy days on the Kawasaki G5 riding the 7 or 8 km from Oamaru to Kakanui and then back again each afternoon after work. Enjoy this time GM and yeah, don't overcomplicate things. Just ride ... even if it's just a whole bunch of easy rides. Keep safe huh and then one day you can get to be a 51 year old biker like me reminiscing over 'the good old days'.

[mossy1200]

See that really long button on your keyboard, the one closest to you? It's called a space bar. You should try it some time :niceone:

You're welcome.

Just spelling shitz proper is a acheivement for me.

[Old Steve]

Nice looking bike Gingermidget. And a very appropriate colour for a boy bike too. Have fun and ride as much as possible. I love seeing the smile of bike ownership on your face. That'll grow as you get more confident and the miles pass under your wheels.

When you get someone to adjust your levers watch closely so you can fine tune them yourself. Don't be afraid to ask them what they're doing and why, or even to do it again. I made a toolkit wrap out of a thick material on my sewing machine with a pocket for every tool, it wraps up into a nice bundle which goes in my saddlebag. By making it yourself you have every tool you need.

[GingerMidget]

If i'd known this before i had the bike delivered, i would have got it all done. Oh well, learning curve or summat. Zach is my learning bike, so I may as well learn all the silly, small and awesome stuff on him! I'm gonna leave trying to wheelie, until after i hit the top speed. Which at this rate, won't be for quite some time. Though when I ducked down and nailed it to get to the speed limit up the gorge i saw the guys in the car beside me pissing themselves laughing. :facepalm:

[rustic101]

I still have to learn how to deal with wind, so I'll leave adding more stuff to help me get blown over til I'm a bit more confident.

GM riding in the wind is about relaxing. Loosen the grip on the handlebars, sit upright and if it gets too bad put your knee out to the prevailing wind or gust. it acts like a sea anchor and keeps you upright. The most important thing is relax, relax relax.

Not sure why people panic about riding in heavy or gusty conditions.

With respect to the top box its one less thing to distract you etc.

[rustic101]

The two worst places here are Aotea flyover and Ngauranga interchange which have the gusts. If you feel unsafe use the Old Hutt Road.

[GingerMidget]

I've been using the old hutt road a lot lately. Hahaha i discovered rev limit on my way home giving it a bit too much leaving the lights heading back to town. Sure, it won't gain speed stupidly fast, but its still enough to get me past a people mover happily enough.

[nathanwhite]

GM riding in the wind is about relaxing. Loosen the grip on the handlebars, sit upright and if it gets too bad put your knee out to the prevailing wind or gust. it acts like a sea anchor and keeps you upright. The most important thing is relax, relax relax.

Not sure why people panic about riding in heavy or gusty conditions.



I've found on these small naked's if the wind is really gusty and blowing a different way every second it helps to get down as close to the tank as possible which reduces its effects somewhat.

If there is a prevailing side wind blowing you over, then yes sticking a leg out into it does bring you back upright. Quite funny actually sticking your leg out, then in, then out.....

[GingerMidget]

I've found on these small naked's if the wind is really gusty and blowing a different way every second it helps to get down as close to the tank as possible which reduces its effects somewhat.

If there is a prevailing side wind blowing you over, then yes sticking a leg out into it does bring you back upright. Quite funny actually sticking your leg out, then in, then out.....

So i was being smart-ish when i hugged the tank. I was mostly just imitating what i'd seen before, and finding it worked. Monkey see, monkey do

[Number One]

Um actually that tank hugging advice is the worst advice I've seen dished out in a while!!!!!

Grip with legs and remain loose in your upper body.

[Oakie]

If there is a prevailing side wind blowing you over, then yes sticking a leg out into it does bring you back upright. Quite funny actually sticking your leg out, then in, then out.....

When he says 'leg' he means knee. The foot stays on the footpeg. Surprising how effective it is.

[jellywrestler]

If i'd known this before i had the bike delivered, i would have got it all done. If whoever you bought the bike from knew you were a learner and knew enough about bikes they would've at least checked a few things out before you hit the highway, but it was probably their first bike to.
Never mind this way you get to learn a bit more about 'how and why' things need a little setting up and how much better it feels and how much easier it is once it's done too.

I think Wellington Motorcycles are having a thing this wednesday night on setting up your bike, womans only too I'm told, might want to investigate that.

[jellywrestler]

If there is a prevailing side wind blowing you over, then yes sticking a leg out into it does bring you back upright. Quite funny actually sticking your leg out, then in, then out..... not really sound advice for someone literally on their first week of riding, GM save this one for a bit further down the road although I'm sure the writer means well.

[unstuck]

Gingermidget+bike!

Sweet looking ride.:yes: Nice little bike too.:devil2::blip:

[nathanwhite]

Grip with legs and remain loose in your upper body.

Sorry I thought this was not needed to be said as it has been brought up multiple times before


When he says 'leg' he means knee. The foot stays on the footpeg.

Also Something I thought was common knowledge


not really sound advice for someone literally on their first week of riding,

ok, ok. probably not no. But the leg out thing still holds true.

[oneofsix]

coming into this wind discussion a bit late but the hardest thing I find is not to squeeze the shit out of the hand grips. It is better to use a loose, sorry, relaxed grip.

[GingerMidget]

I'm off to steal coffee and get pete to look at my clutch set up as soon as i get off the internet and get my gear on. Which isn't happening too fast. I don't want it to rain! i haven't ridden in the rain...

[sil3nt]

I'm off to steal coffee and get pete to look at my clutch set up as soon as i get off the internet and get my gear on. Which isn't happening too fast. I don't want it to rain! i haven't ridden in the rain...Just stay relaxed and avoid hard braking on white lines and you will be fine in the rain.

[Bald Eagle]

I'm off to steal coffee and get pete to look at my clutch set up as soon as i get off the internet and get my gear on. Which isn't happening too fast. I don't want it to rain! i haven't ridden in the rain...

It's only vertical water - if you don't do rain you only get to ride 1/3rd of the year in Welly. ..

p.s don't drink the coffee it's a trap to get you to upgrade.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If whoever you bought the bike from knew you were a learner and knew enough about bikes they would've at least checked a few things out before you hit the highway, but it was probably their first bike to.
Never mind this way you get to learn a bit more about 'how and why' things need a little setting up and how much better it feels and how much easier it is once it's done too.

I think Wellington Motorcycles are having a thing this wednesday night on setting up your bike, womans only too I'm told, might want to investigate that.

I sold her the bike, and have ridden it before hand myself. The clutch was fine then, so if it ain't now, I'm guessing the knurled adjuster has come loose, or the clutch may've had a hammering during hill start practice and may need some adjustment. But either way, GM is on her way here to be shown how to do it for future reference.

[oneofsix]

I sold her the bike, and have ridden it before hand myself. The clutch was fine then, so if it ain't now, I'm guessing the knurled adjuster has come loose, or the clutch may've had a hammering during hill start practice and may need some adjustment. But either way, GM is on her way here to be shown how to do it for future reference.

She's been popping wheelies and practising high speed departures :laugh:

[Ferkletastic]

en huh? I kinda dig the way the GNs look. Kinda old school cool.

Although the en seems cool too, I ain't hatin'.

[willytheekid]

I'm off to steal coffee and get pete to look at my clutch set up as soon as i get off the internet and get my gear on. Which isn't happening too fast. I don't want it to rain! i haven't ridden in the rain...

Gidday GM

Just found the thread, SOOOO bloody glad you didn't get the megalian! (or what ever it was):yes: :laugh:

Very good choice of bike you have there :niceone: , great learners bike and good reliable engines on those...well done! (pete will get it all sorted for ya...DONT DRINK HIS COFFEE!!...you have been warned!:laugh:)

Ride safe and take your time in the learning process....it never ends!

With winter coming, I would highly recommend doing some rider training courses...there lots of fun and the advice and skills will ensure many years of safe and enjoyable riding (I got addicted to them years ago lol)

So good to see a learner rider and fellow KB member on there way to a life time of fun & riding :scooter:

ps:...get some real pants!...dont trust those "safety jeans"...Ive seen what they do to skin & legs in a crash :sick:

[FJRider]

I'm off to steal coffee and get pete to look at my clutch set up as soon as i get off the internet and get my gear on. Which isn't happening too fast. I don't want it to rain! i haven't ridden in the rain...

Part of the motorcycle learning process is riding in the rain. It will happen. Often at the times you really would prefer it NOT too ... such is life. (Murphys law ... and all that)

Have a look at the gear your friends are wearing ... ask about the good and bad points of their gear. And decide then whats best for your riding. (and FUTURE riding) Trademe has some good deals now and then. The Warehouse cheapies are good for the sunny (when you start) day rides ... but only as a stop gap untill you get better. (And can afford better)

[george formby]

Part of the motorcycle learning process is riding in the rain. It will happen. Often at the times you really would prefer it NOT too ... such is life. (Murphys law ... and all that)

Have a look at the gear your friends are wearing ... ask about the good and bad points of their gear. And decide then whats best for your riding. (and FUTURE riding) Trademe has some good deals now and then. The Warehouse cheapies are good for the sunny (when you start) day rides ... but only as a stop gap untill you get better. (And can afford better)

I do believe the Warewhare has a special on light weight water proof jackets & kecks at the mo. Ideal to go over the top of everyday gear.

[GingerMidget]

As much as I love leather, I'm going cordura way. My birthday is coming, so I'm asking the family to put in for some decent gear, rather than buy me crap I don't need. Its easier. I feel the cold really badly which is annoying!

I rode home in traffic, and didn't panic when some numb nuts pulled out in front of me at the basin after forgetting which lane to be in. Must stop lane splitting though. The gap was huge and there were only two cars. But I already know its not something I should be doing. Especially now that I have gears and a clutch to think about.

[FJRider]

As much as I love leather, I'm going cordura way. My birthday is coming, so I'm asking the family to put in for some decent gear, rather than buy me crap I don't need. Its easier. I feel the cold really badly which is annoying!



Just keep an eye out for a pair of waterproof boots too ... look after those feet.

Warm feet ... warm heart .... big smile.

[GingerMidget]

I'm wearing alpinestars at the moment (I've ben home half an hour and haven't actually moved to take them off yet) but I've got my eye on some tcx ones. I'm hoping to get pants and a new jacket, but pants are the main one at this stage. I can't and don't want to wear kevlar jeans all the time. Aside from the getting soaked thing, they are ok (in my mind) as pillion pants but not if i'm relying on myself. I'm well aware of the risk of crashing and if I can limit some of the damage with good gear, I want to!

Yes, I'm captain safety. When it suits me.

[slofox]

I'm probably verging on young enough to get away with hitting on her

You realise you will still be saying exactly that in ten or twenty or thirty more years time, doncha? :innocent:

[GingerMidget]

You realise you will still be saying exactly that in ten or twenty or thirty more years time, doncha? :innocent:

And I'll be stubbornly single in ten years time :lol:

[FJRider]

I'm wearing alpinestars at the moment (I've ben home half an hour and haven't actually moved to take them off yet)

Yes, I'm captain safety. When it suits me.

Your boots must be comfortable then. That's always good.

[jrandom]

You realise you will still be saying exactly that in ten or twenty or thirty more years time, doncha? :innocent:

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[Bassmatt]

Warm feet ... warm heart .... big smile.

:sick: (10)

[slofox]

And I'll be stubbornly single in ten years time :lol:


I'm single now too. But I had to wade through 35 years of indentured labour before I reclaimed my freedom...

[Quasi]

Yes, I'm captain safety. When it suits me.

well theres a big learn for you right there!! when you're on your bike, you cant be captian safety - when it suits.
You have to be there 200% of the time. Life is too short, skin is too soft, to just focus on the safety things when it suits. Get some decent gear, get on all the courses, track days and training days you can. Andrew Templeton from Roadsafe does lots of excellent courses in the welly region, quite often subsidised by ACC so they are dirt cheap.

Never ever let your guard down - always ride as though everyone else on the road is out there to kill you, cos they can, quite easily. And most important - never stop smiling, never stop having fun on the greatest two wheeled machines in the world:yes:

[Number One]

Sorry I thought this was not needed to be said as it has been brought up multiple times before.

you suggested 'get down on the tank'..that's like worst thing you can do in wind.

[GingerMidget]

Success! In the form of mum getting all paranoid about me riding in winter. She just paid for some new gear, so I don't freeze to death. Early birthday present for the win!

I wonder how I can go about getting an early christmas present of a new helmet too? :wings:

Its 1tonne gear, which is better than just a jacket and jeans. Gives me a bit more protection from hypothermia which is important!

[gatch]

Only I'd take a thermos in a back pack to churton park to pick up some baby tropical fish. On a motorbike.

Just a thermos ?

I went to wellington, to pick up a motor (in pieces). For a bucket racer I built, on my bike.. Carried the bits home in a big ol back pack.


Monkey see, monkey do

Last monkey I witnessed applying that mantra, had copied JRandom dipping a finger in his own marmite pot.. Poor thing didn't like that smell however and fell out the tree.

[nathanwhite]

you suggested 'get down on the tank'..that's like worst thing you can do in wind.

I seem to be missing your point here, could you explain why this is a really bad idea?

When the wind gets really bad on the motorway, gusts blowing every direction and what not, I lean down over the tank. While wind noise increases, the wind force buffeting me decreases quite significantly.

[GingerMidget]

Just a thermos ?

I went to wellington, to pick up a motor (in pieces). For a bucket racer I built, on my bike.. Carried the bits home in a big ol back pack.



Last monkey I witnessed applying that mantra, had copied JRandom dipping a finger in his own marmite pot.. Poor thing didn't like that smell however and fell out the tree.

Thanks for the laugh buddy. Badly needed!

[Oakie]

I seem to be missing your point here, could you explain why this is a really bad idea? .

Never really thought about it but ... depends on where the wind is coming from. I guess ducking down into a head-wind will work but in a side wind you are as much of a sail lying down as you are sitting up ... more-so perhaps as lying down you are creating a larger soild area that wind can't get through. Other thing to consider would be the height of the handle bars. Lying on your tank with clip-ons is probably Ok but lying prone with higher handle bars might give you less control. Dunno.

[gatch]

Thanks for the laugh buddy. Badly needed!

You think that's funny ??

Just you wait till you see JRandom and the monkey side by side..

[Madness]

I seem to be missing your point here, could you explain why this is a really bad idea?

It has been my experience that Auckland very rarely has windy days that compare to a typical windy day in Wellington. To cope with a sudden strong gust of wind you need to be able to react almost instantly by shifting your position, bodyweight and in severe cases by steering the bike into the wind. Hunched over the tank you're hardly in any position to be able to do this quickly enough. As has been stated, the best way to cope with strong wind is to grip the tank with your knees and keep your upright upper body as loose as Nodrog's bumhole.

With respect, I think you've just been hunching down in the occasional breeze, all good fun. If in doubt still, try riding over the Rimutaka Hill in >120km/hr winds some time :niceone:

[gatch]

It has been my experience that Auckland very rarely has windy days that compare to a typical windy day in Wellington. To cope with a sudden strong gust of wind you need to be able to react almost instantly by shifting your position, bodyweight and in severe cases by steering the bike into the wind. Hunched over the tank you're hardly in any position to be able to do this quickly enough. As has been stated, the best way to cope with strong wind is to grip the tank with your knees and keep your upright upper body as loose as Nodrog's bumhole.

With respect, I think you've just been hunching down in the occasional breeze, all good fun. If in doubt still, try riding over the Rimutaka Hill in >120km/hr winds some time :niceone:

I thought when you are hunched over the tank, it places your forearms closer to 90 degrees from the steering head. Which is ideal for maximum leverage on your handlebars.

Also if you are hunched, with all of your weight on your footpegs and gripping the tank with your knees, it will make transitioning side to side on your bike faster.

[Number One]

It has been my experience that Auckland very rarely has windy days that compare to a typical windy day in Wellington. To cope with a sudden strong gust of wind you need to be able to react almost instantly by shifting your position, bodyweight and in severe cases by steering the bike into the wind. Hunched over the tank you're hardly in any position to be able to do this quickly enough. As has been stated, the best way to cope with strong wind is to grip the tank with your knees and keep your upright upper body as loose as Nodrog's bumhole.

With respect, I think you've just been hunching down in the occasional breeze, all good fun. If in doubt still, try riding over the Rimutaka Hill in >120km/hr winds some time :niceone:

Thankyou sir..I knew someone would come along to explain what I couldn't be arsed typing out on my iPod :sunny:

[nathanwhite]

It has been my experience that Auckland very rarely has windy days that compare to a typical windy day in Wellington. To cope with a sudden strong gust of wind you need to be able to react almost instantly by shifting your position, bodyweight and in severe cases by steering the bike into the wind. Hunched over the tank you're hardly in any position to be able to do this quickly enough. As has been stated, the best way to cope with strong wind is to grip the tank with your knees and keep your upright upper body as loose as Nodrog's bumhole.

With respect, I think you've just been hunching down in the occasional breeze, all good fun. If in doubt still, try riding over the Rimutaka Hill in >120km/hr winds some time :niceone:

This makes sense.
I suppose you could say auckland winds are the occasional breeze compared to wellington one. To quantify a little further I'm thinking of winds that push the rider around a bit, but don't shift the bike much if at all.

[nathanwhite]

I thought when you are hunched over the tank, it places your forearms closer to 90 degrees from the steering head. Which is ideal for maximum leverage on your handlebars.


This is does on bikes with clipons, but on me wee scorpio and other naked bikes, the bars are high enough that this optimum position is achieved with a much more upright position

[GingerMidget]

This makes sense.
I suppose you could say auckland winds are the occasional breeze compared to wellington one. To quantify a little further I'm thinking of winds that push the rider around a bit, but don't shift the bike much if at all.

Thats not wind. Wind to me is shift you in to another lane if you aren't careful. I experienced those on the scooter enough to be quite aware of what happens.

Oh, and i don't like the feeling huncing down. It feels un natural on that bike, and I don't feel like I have full control of the bike. So its not something I'll do very often.

[Number One]

This makes sense.
I suppose you could say auckland winds are the occasional breeze compared to wellington one. To quantify a little further I'm thinking of winds that push the rider around a bit, but don't shift the bike much if at all.

Lol yeah well GM is riding in Wellington...she needs to be up to 'proper motorway wind' specially in some of the natural wind tunnels we have here.

[nathanwhite]

Lol yeah well GM is riding in Wellington...she needs to be up to 'proper motorway wind' specially in some of the natural wind tunnels we have here.

hm. Think i'm going to have to come down to wellington now

[Madness]

This makes sense.
I suppose you could say auckland winds are the occasional breeze compared to wellington one. To quantify a little further I'm thinking of winds that push the rider around a bit, but don't shift the bike much if at all.

I used to fang ove the Takas on a rather heavy sprot-tourer regularly. A couple of times the wind literally picked me up and dropped me on the opposite side of the road. You're riding in & out from behind ridges so the variation in wind strength is incredible. You learn to be loose or you crash.


Thankyou sir..I knew someone would come along to explain what I couldn't be arsed typing out on my iPod :sunny:
YOU'RE WELCOME, SWEETCHEEKS! :love:


Yada yada yada, ride like Rossi.

If that works for you then that's great but I don't agree with giving newbies advice to ride hunched over the tank. If for no other reason than they look like cocks, as GM has discovered in Te Gorge.

Fuck I'm bored.

[GingerMidget]

The reason wellington is so windy, is the politicians are full of hot air, and auckland sucks.

[nathanwhite]

The reason wellington is so windy, is the politicians are full of hot air, and auckland sucks.

I like the first bit of that.
That second bit is just mean.

[Madness]

That second bit is just mean.

But true. So very, very true.

You should go to Wellington. It's a fantastic city to be in with a bike.

[Geeen]

That second bit is just mean.

Still true though

[nzspokes]

hm. Think i'm going to have to come down to wellington now

Some of the wind we got on the cape ride was pretty full on. Got to say my bigger bike is way easier to ride in wind.

[GingerMidget]

Wait. You want me to be nice?
I can be nice, or I can tell the truth. You can't have both.

I lived there briefly, I'm therefor allowed an opinion on it. It would be nice, if it wasn't for the stupid amount of people in a tiny area, the huge traffic jams to get anywhere, the stupid road layouts that don't make sense, the over inflated rates, how stupidly hard it is to buy a house... wait. No it won't be nice. I hate auckland.

[nzspokes]

Wait. You want me to be nice?
I can be nice, or I can tell the truth. You can't have both.

I lived there briefly, I'm therefor allowed an opinion on it. It would be nice, if it wasn't for the stupid amount of people in a tiny area, the huge traffic jams to get anywhere, the stupid road layouts that don't make sense, the over inflated rates, how stupidly hard it is to buy a house... wait. No it won't be nice. I hate auckland.

Funny, I used to come down to Wellington twice a month for work and hated it.

[Madness]

It's a classy place. Not quite on par with Manurewa mind you.

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[nzspokes]

At that time I lived in Henderson, even Clendon is better than that.

[Madness]

Two more shit holes.

[nathanwhite]

I lived there briefly, I'm therefor allowed an opinion on it. It would be nice, if it wasn't for the stupid amount of people in a tiny area, the huge traffic jams to get anywhere, the stupid road layouts that don't make sense, the over inflated rates, how stupidly hard it is to buy a house... wait. No it won't be nice. I hate auckland.

Lots of people in a small area? yea, its a city. I've grown up with it so don't notice.
Traffic jams? I have a bike, I filter, no problem.
Stupid layouts? granted its not a gridlike as wellington, but again, grown up with it.
rates/house market? I live with my parents. No problem.

You have your opinion and I respectfully disagree with it.

[GingerMidget]

Lots of people in a small area? yea, its a city. I've grown up with it so don't notice.
Traffic jams? I have a bike, I filter, no problem.
Stupid layouts? granted its not a gridlike as wellington, but again, grown up with it.
rates/house market? I live with my parents. No problem.

You have your opinion and I respectfully disagree with it.

You live with your parents? How old are you?

Go disagree somewhere else. This is my thread, and I don't care for your opinion.

[FJRider]

And I'll be stubbornly single in ten years time :lol:

or married ... and still stubborn ... :facepalm:

[gatch]

This is does on bikes with clipons, but on me wee scorpio and other naked bikes, the bars are high enough that this optimum position is achieved with a much more upright position

You know, I never even thought about bikes with regular bars. I've always had clipons.




If that works for you then that's great but I don't agree with giving newbies advice to ride hunched over the tank.


I'm not telling anyone how to do anything. It's just good to have all angles on a problem, before making a decision.

[GingerMidget]

or married ... and still stubborn ... :facepalm:

Lol. Its gonna take a pretty impressive person to tie me down. I've given up on the idea of a knight in shining armour. Instead I seem to find retards wrapped in tin foil.

[FJRider]

But true. So very, very true.

You should go to Wellington. It's a fantastic city to be in with a bike.

It's an even better city ... when you get OUT of it on a bike ... :yes:

[Madness]

It's an even better city ... when you get OUT OF IT on a bike ... :yes:

Mate, now you're talking my language :doobey:

[nathanwhite]

You live with your parents? How old are you?

Go disagree somewhere else. This is my thread, and I don't care for your opinion.

Old enough thanks.

This is an internet forum. Granted there is a lot less anonymity then some because of the geographic boundaries of the users and how often they meet up, but you can't stop people from airing their opinions especially when yours are out there.

To be honest i'm disappointed my throwaway comment generated this response.

[GingerMidget]

Theoretical door. >>>>
Bye.

[FJRider]

Lol. Its gonna take a pretty impressive person to tie me down. I've given up on the idea of a knight in shining armour. Instead I seem to find retards wrapped in tin foil.

Remember ... the perfect guy is looking for the perfect woman. Unless you are SHE ... dont be scared to comprmise ... (and comprmising positions can be fun)

So ... you're into bondage ... :innocent:

[GingerMidget]

Remember ... the perfect guy is looking for the perfect woman. Unless you are SHE ... dont be scared to comprmise ... (and comprmising positions can be fun)

So ... you're into bondage ... :innocent:

I'm not perfect. I don't expect him to be perfect. But to not be a shit eating moron would be a good start.

[FJRider]

I'm not perfect. I don't expect him to be perfect. But to not be a shit eating moron would be a good start.

Hold that thought ... it will save a lifetime of regret.

[blackdog]

It's finally happened. The inmates have taken over the asylum.

[FJRider]

It's finally happened. The inmates have taken over the asylum.

You don't have to be crazy to be on this site ... but it helps ... :facepalm:

[ducatilover]

This thread sucks duck.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Youse fullas are all retreads.

[sil3nt]

This is like watching twist of the wrist with everyone giving their opinion on how to ride a bike. Just gotta wait for Keith Code to come in here and tell us what to do!

[Newbi]

This thread was fine until the all the fucktards came out to play.

[Skiwi]

I'm not perfect. I don't expect him to be perfect. But to not be a shit eating moron would be a good start.

LOL, That's a lofty goal you have, there must be at least 3 guys on this forum that exceed that standard ;)

[Gremlin]

Moderator Warning

This thread has strayed heavily off topic several times, but has not been tidied as it returned to topic. However, abuse to another member, (whether starting or retaliating) is not acceptable.

[jrandom]

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[Nova.]

Cool bike dood.

[gatch]

There is a track day this saturday at manfield. PMCC running it.

$60 for a whole lot of track time. Best place to learn to ride..

[GingerMidget]

There is a track day this saturday at manfield. PMCC running it.

$60 for a whole lot of track time. Best place to learn to ride..

OMG.

I was just talking to Gerry about doing a track day today. I have enough money to enter, but I'm not willing to ride that far. Hrmm... I wonder if dad would notice if I borrowed the Ranger until monday and took it up north...

Or... ducatilover could let me take geoff out! but i doubt it...

[ducatilover]

OMG.

I was just talking to Gerry about doing a track day today. I have enough money to enter, but I'm not willing to ride that far. Hrmm... I wonder if dad would notice if I borrowed the Ranger until monday and took it up north...

Or... ducatilover could let me take geoff out! but i doubt it...

You're more than welcome to take Geoff out :Punk:

[Grant`]

Do that track day! awesome fun!

Nice bike also, good score :)

[gatch]

OMG.

I was just talking to Gerry about doing a track day today. I have enough money to enter, but I'm not willing to ride that far. Hrmm... I wonder if dad would notice if I borrowed the Ranger until monday and took it up north...

Or... ducatilover could let me take geoff out! but i doubt it...

Do what you got to do to get there.

Unless you are a bull fighter or like to ski down avalanches, taking a bike around the track is one of the MOST exciting things you will ever do.

[GingerMidget]

Cheers Doug!

I'm gonna think really seriously about coming up to this, even though I should probably learn to walk before I attempt to run. It sounds stupidly exciting though. I remember my first time on the track in the car. I didn't stop grinning til long after we got back to the house.

[Grant`]

Ooh you enablers!

HAhahahaha I don't need any more bad influences, but thanks :D

Smart me is chiming in though, and saying learn to walk before you try to run. I'm gonna think really seriously about coming up though.

You will learn a lot from being on the track and I guarantee when you leave if you don't do it you will be gutted you didnt spend the money for it.

[gatch]

Cheers Doug!

I'm gonna think really seriously about coming up to this, even though I should probably learn to walk before I attempt to run. It sounds stupidly exciting though. I remember my first time on the track in the car. I didn't stop grinning til long after we got back to the house.

You need to think fast.. If you aren't there early, you will not get entry. For $60 every man and his dog will be there for a go... I'd like to go, however I am going to work instead.


You will learn a lot from being on the track and I guarantee when you leave if you don't do it you will be gutted you didnt spend the money for it.

+1

[ducatilover]

Dunno if my Geoff would pass scrutineering with his fucked fork seals, but you're welcome to try

[GrayWolf]

Cheers Doug!

I'm gonna think really seriously about coming up to this, even though I should probably learn to walk before I attempt to run. It sounds stupidly exciting though. I remember my first time on the track in the car. I didn't stop grinning til long after we got back to the house.

The value of track days to improving road riding has been discussed to death many times. There is a camp who believe strongly that race techniques improve road riding, and another that think that 'roadcraft' and 'road riding' is of higher importance. I will admit to being in the latter camp quite firmly.
Doing a track day is a matter of choice, however? I believe you hit the nail on the head.... dont try to run before you can even crawl.

[FJRider]

The value of track days to improving road riding has been discussed to death many times. There is a camp who believe strongly that race techniques improve road riding, and another that think that 'roadcraft' and 'road riding' is of higher importance. I will admit to being in the latter camp quite firmly.
Doing a track day is a matter of choice, however? I believe you hit the nail on the head.... dont try to run before you can even crawl.

The best part of track days ... there's nothing coming the other way. You can use the whole "road" ...

[Grant`]

The value of track days to improving road riding has been discussed to death many times. There is a camp who believe strongly that race techniques improve road riding, and another that think that 'roadcraft' and 'road riding' is of higher importance. I will admit to being in the latter camp quite firmly.
Doing a track day is a matter of choice, however? I believe you hit the nail on the head.... dont try to run before you can even crawl.

Track day in my eyes is mainly about riding in a safe environment and having the ability to try things that you may never attempt on the open road.. Riding the same corner and just solely practising your entry speed into it trying to go a little faster, or looking through a corner and leaning over a little bit more than you ever have before...

Its not about going fast all the time, and they have fast groups just for that reason.

[blackdog]

Mmmm, trackday.

I hope the weather is good.

If I go I'll have room on the truck for the EN and two more bikes if there are any takers.

I'm pretty keen if we all chip in for diseasel.

[BMWST?]

There is a track day this saturday at manfield. PMCC running it.

$60 for a whole lot of track time. Best place to learn to ride..

this has to be the most pointless post ever about a learner with a 125 owned for about a week.

[GingerMidget]

Future bike?

[FJRider]

A few km's to do first ... but why not ... ??? :rockon:

[DrunkenMistake]

Dunno if my Geoff would pass scrutineering with his fucked fork seals, but you're welcome to try


Send him down here for the weekend,
ill try get it impounded for street racing, would be one hell of a background story

[blackdog]

this has to be the most pointless post ever about a learner with a 125 owned for about a week.

Not at all Beemer, remember she was a scooterist before now. I think the practise in a slow group could do the world of good.

[jrandom]

I will admit to justifying the fact that I can't ride a motorbike around corners very well by invoking the nebulous idea of 'roadcraft'.

Brave fellow.


this has to be the most pointless post ever about a learner with a 125 owned for about a week.

The fact that after decades of practice you're still not very good at controlling motorcycles doesn't imply that everyone else has to suck quite so hard for quite so long.


Track day in my eyes is mainly about riding in a safe environment and having the ability to try things that you may never attempt on the open road.. Riding the same corner and just solely practising your entry speed into it trying to go a little faster, or looking through a corner and leaning over a little bit more than you ever have before...

Its not about going fast all the time, and they have fast groups just for that reason.

What he said.

Trackdays save lives.

Start doing them regularly, GM.

[jrandom]

Future bike?

I see that the perpetual fawning has increased your confidence to the point of posing for the camera.

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[gatch]

this has to be the most pointless post ever about a learner with a 125 owned for about a week.

So what is a good idea then ? Encouraging relatively inexperienced riders on to the streets, in brutal city traffic ?

On the track there is strict safety rules in place, which can actually be enforced. There is room to maneuver is you make a mistake and even more room if you do go off the track. It is the perfect place to learn to control a bike properly. Given that there is different groups for different speeds, not many people are going to be there to actually "race" around the track.

Arguing against track time is like arguing that helmets are bad because they weigh your head down.

[Bassmatt]

I see that the perpetual fawning has increased your confidence to the point of posing for the camera.


Having old mens tongues down the back of your pants for 16 pages does that......evidently. :facepalm:

[jrandom]

16 pages...

Switch to displaying the maximum of 40 posts per page ('Settings'->'My Settings'->'General Settings'). Makes threads much easier to deal with.

[PrincessBandit]

Switch to displaying the maximum of 40 posts per page ('Settings'->'My Settings'->'General Settings'). Makes threads much easier to deal with.

:Offtopic: (she says about her own post) I know, but thanks for that advice - very helpful.

[Skiwi]

I see that the perpetual fawning has increased your confidence to the point of posing for the camera.

Sometimes civility is mistaken for fawning, usually by rude bastards :innocent:

[jrandom]

Sometimes civility is mistaken for fawning...

... nah bro. The amount of saliva (and potentially other, more precious, bodily fluids) obviously puddling around keyboards in this thread indicates fawning.

[Bassmatt]

Sometimes civility is mistaken for fawning, usually by rude bastards :innocent:

Its called Grooming

[GrayWolf]

I will admit to justifying the fact that I can't ride a motorbike around corners very well by invoking the nebulous idea of 'roadcraft'.The fact that after decades of practice you're still not very good at controlling motorcycles doesn't imply that everyone else has to suck quite so hard for quite so long.


Brave fellow.


this has to be the most pointless post ever about a learner with a 125 owned for about a week.


The fact that after decades of practice you're still not very good at controlling motorcycles doesn't imply that everyone else has to suck quite so hard for quite so long.

What he said.

Trackdays save lives.

Start doing them regularly, GM.

Oh dear, the alterations to other peoples suggestions performed above, translates to::::

I have a small brain, and ride a 'baby' HD as the only large thing about my own ability is my ego.... My own riding ability is such that I have to vilify others to make myself look better than I really am in the eyes of the inexperienced...... I'll call things like 'roadcraft' nebulous, although the Police Roadcraft manual is the one used by almost all Police riders and trainers and civilian advanced training instructors worldwide,,,, but of course they know nothing as I have told you its nebulous..... many top race riders admit that the road requires some different skills to the track, I'll tell you I know better!

Track days alone do NOT save lives.... they are designed to teach you the limits of the bike and riders abilities, which is not a bad thing in itself... riding on the limit is expected on a race track, as has been so frequently pointed out, tracks are designed for high speed use... roads have varying surfaces, blind and vision obscured corners, sheep netting, fences, kerbs, hedges, power poles etc etc,,, all waiting to say 'hello' to an unwary rider..... and before you comment Mr Random on how much bollox that is/// GM You tube the Isle of Man TT race and see the severity of the accidents that happen and how many of the best riders have lost their lives riding a 'real road' circuit...
Because it is absolutely unforgiving of any rider error or mechanical defect and breakage.

[GrayWolf]

Sometimes civility is mistaken for fawning, usually by rude bastards :innocent:


... nah bro. The amount of saliva (and potentially other, more precious, bodily fluids) obviously puddling around keyboards in this thread indicates fawning.

mate you seem to be the one with a fixation on bodily fluids in this thread,,, methinks Mr Random, thou dost protest just a little too much <_< ,,,,,

have a nice day :cry:

[jrandom]

GrayWolf, your annoyance at my needling is blinding you to the important point at issue here, which is the usefulness of trackdays and the precise argument that I'm making.

The point of trackdays is to teach machine control.

It's self-evident that being aware of your surroundings is necessary on the road. But it's not enough.

It's no good being aware when what's required to respond to those observations goes outside of what your neuromotor units have learned to do.

To fix that shortcoming, you need to explore how your machine behaves while repeating things over and over in a safe environment.

Nobody's saying that that's the be-all and end-all of the matter. But it's a crucial first step. There's little point heading out and trying be road-crafty when you don't know how your machine feels and behaves at the limits of its braking, turning and accelerating performance.

And I believe that it's worth stressing this to learners, because if it's not stressed, they'll be intimidated by the idea of trackdays and not show up at any.

And then they'll tootle into an unexpected decreasing-radius corner and all the 'roadcraft' in the world won't help them to brake and turn beyond what they've already learned, which they happened to be using 100% of on corner entry. Nek minnit, broken neck.

Yes, I know, 'roadcraft' says you shouldn't do that. But it's theoretical. If you haven't taught yourself the real boundaries of a motorcycle's performance envelope, it can be very difficult to get from A to B without using 100% of your actual ability to control it, a lot of the time. And you never know when that limited ability will be exceeded by events that your 'roadcraft' failed to allow for.

Expand that ability.

Trackdays save lives.

[Newbi]

What he said,

[Katman]

Trackdays save lives.

While I agree that trackdays are a valuable learning tool it is important to remember that the skills learned at a trackday should only be utilised as a means to get you out of trouble on the road - not as a means to get yourself into trouble.

[jrandom]

While I agree that trackdays are a valuable learning tool it is important to remember that the skills learned at a trackday should only be utilised as a means to get you out of trouble on the road - not as a means to get yourself into trouble.

Yes. Worth emphasising.

Attitude is key.

Now go finish fettling my 'baby' HD.

:love:

[Crasherfromwayback]

While I agree that trackdays are a valuable learning tool it is important to remember that the skills learned at a trackday should only be utilised as a means to get you out of trouble on the road - not as a means to get yourself into trouble.

100% agree with that. I took it TO the track as I was using the road AS one way back in the day.

[nodrog]

I got bored, fell asleep, crashed, and died, just trying to read this thread and all its really big words and stuff.

[jrandom]

I got bored, fell asleep, crashed, and died, just trying to read this thread

Didn't you crash and die years ago already?

What are you doing on the internet?

[nodrog]

Didn't you crash and die years ago already?

What are you doing on the internet?

http://www.apple.com/iphone/from-the-app-store/Ouija-board

[bogan]

I got bored, fell asleep, crashed, and died, just trying to read this thread and all its really big words and stuff.

Have you got google glasses? Or was it a more deliberate 'goodbye illiterate world' crash?

How does an EN125 thread get this many replies? Has she even started moding it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Now go finish fettling my 'baby' HD.

:love:

I'm telling ya...put a pro tuner in it.

[jrandom]

I'm telling ya...put a pro tuner in it.

I will, I will, don't you worry.

I just keep spending all my spare money on actually riding it at the moment. And I'm busily paying for the whole thing over a short time period so as to own it and not owe anything, so the budget is limited.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I will, I will, don't you worry.

.

Bring Mr Grumpy Pants down one day and have a play on the dyno.