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DrunkenMistake
14th April 2012, 18:58
Hey guys,
Im having a bit of trouble getting my head about what im reading on the Department of labour website in regards to parental leave,
Probably because im tired but never mind, Im hoping someone can give me an idea or a suggestion what have you..

Anywho heres the story, me and my partner are expecting our first child in October, my partner only works part time and has been doing so for about 6 - 7 months with the same employer, she is considering leaving her job when baby comes (I have to get some information from IRD in regards to working with families before this is considered an actual option) but this been the case, I work 40.5 hours a week + Overtime, if my partner leaves her job I would like to take time off to help her out and to get baby settled and what have you,
What I want to know is there paid parental leave that I am entitled to?

Any other suggestions (actual suggestions that is) would be much appreciated.

Zedder
14th April 2012, 19:05
Check out:http://www.dol.govt.nz/er/holidaysandleave/parentalleave/index.asp

DrunkenMistake
14th April 2012, 19:09
Check out:http://www.dol.govt.nz/er/holidaysandleave/parentalleave/index.asp

yeah I had a read through, ill have another look tomorrow when im a bit more awake (past my bedtime :innocent:) but from what I could gather, the only person out of the two of us eligible for paid leave would be my partner

The Lone Rider
14th April 2012, 19:12
Uh... my understanding is there is no such thing as paid parental leave; but that you could ask for parental leave and use your annual leave to supplement it.

Oakie
14th April 2012, 20:29
Only the woman is entitled to paid parental leave.

You are entitled to two weeks unpaid paternity leave if you want it from memory. If you want paid leave though it'll probably have to be annual leave unless your employer offers something different as a benefit.

DrunkenMistake
14th April 2012, 20:40
Only the woman is entitled to paid parental leave.

You are entitled to two weeks unpaid paternity leave if you want it from memory. If you want paid leave though it'll probably have to be annual leave unless your employer offers something different as a benefit.

I see,
Well that makes things a bit of a pain but I suppose annual leave would end up been the alternative,
I dont exactly have the worlds greatest employer... haha

Virago
14th April 2012, 20:42
Firstly, take note that "paid parental leave" is a misnomer - the employer pays nothing.

The payment is actually a government paid benefit, and does not pass through the employer's hands.

Fathers can also take the paid leave, but it comes off the mother's entitlement. For example, if the mother is entitled to 13 weeks payemnt, the father may take a couple of weeks of that, dropping the mother's payment to 11 weeks.

You can work out what your entitlement is using the on-line calculator.

Note that the employer must "approve" the leave, confirming that the employee will have a job to return to.

DrunkenMistake
14th April 2012, 20:52
Firstly, take note that "paid parental leave" is a misnomer - the employer pays nothing.

The payment is actually a government paid benefit, and does not pass through the employer's hands.

Fathers can also take the paid leave, but it comes off the mother's entitlement. For example, if the mother is entitled to 13 weeks payemnt, the father may take a couple of weeks of that, dropping the mother's payment to 11 weeks.

You can work out what your entitlement is using the on-line calculator.

Note that the employer must "approve" the leave, confirming that the employee will have a job to return to.

Ohh I had heard similar but couldnt seem to find it anywhere unless I have been super retarded and looked past it,
I may just catch up with you about it on the Monday coming if Im still a tad lost, Cheers.

Virago
14th April 2012, 20:54
Ohh I had heard similar but couldnt seem to find it anywhere unless I have been super retarded and looked past it,
I may just catch up with you about it on the Monday coming if Im still a tad lost, Cheers.

Went through the process last year for one of my guys. I can talk you through it and sort the forms etc.

DrunkenMistake
14th April 2012, 20:59
Went through the process last year for one of my guys. I can talk you through it and sort the forms etc.

Would be fantastic,
we are still working on the finer details work wise, but this was just our biggest snag so far.

Coldrider
14th April 2012, 21:03
We had paternity leave written into our employment contract, come from accumulated unused sick pay.

Oakie
14th April 2012, 21:31
Fathers can also take the paid leave, but it comes off the mother's entitlement. For example, if the mother is entitled to 13 weeks payemnt, the father may take a couple of weeks of that, dropping the mother's payment to 11 weeks..

I've not done one for the partner myself but I thought it could only be a straight swap ... she transfers to him but the whole 14 weeks. I could well be wrong though.

XxKiTtiExX
14th April 2012, 21:52
Firstly, take note that "paid parental leave" is a misnomer - the employer pays nothing.

The payment is actually a government paid benefit, and does not pass through the employer's hands.

Fathers can also take the paid leave, but it comes off the mother's entitlement. For example, if the mother is entitled to 13 weeks payemnt, the father may take a couple of weeks of that, dropping the mother's payment to 11 weeks.

You can work out what your entitlement is using the on-line calculator.

Note that the employer must "approve" the leave, confirming that the employee will have a job to return to.

When I applied for it this is how I understood it to work also.

JimO
14th April 2012, 22:07
when my wife had the twins i went back to work the next day,,,,,bugger being at home with that lot

Berries
14th April 2012, 23:07
It can depend on the employer as well. I could have taken longer paid leave with the arrival of my two, but then I only go to work to get away from them anyway. Congratulations btw.

DrunkenMistake
15th April 2012, 20:12
It can depend on the employer as well. I could have taken longer paid leave with the arrival of my two, but then I only go to work to get away from them anyway. Congratulations btw.


Haha thanks,
its more my partner I want to be able to help her out until she settles into the all of a sudden change, and what not, so I was hoping for something like 4 weeks off just to help out around the house and what have you, I could very well just take it out of my annual leave but if I dont have to then I would much rather not haha, and thank you.


Thanks for all your replies guys!

Stirts
16th April 2012, 14:03
Why she leaving her job? Decisions like that and pregnancy don’t mix very well (nappy brain turns even the most intelligent into stoopid) :dodge:
she needs to keep her options open, if she is eligible they have to keep her job available to her once her parental leave is used. She may well be one of those mums that have to get back to work to save her sanity.

Depending on how part-time she is, she could still be eligible for paid parental leave.

If she has worked for the same employer for 6 months or more of continuous service, and those 6 months have been served PRIOIR to the baby’s due date, then she may be eligible depending on her hours. DOL do have a shit way of explaining the hours. But if she works at least 10hrs per week she is pretty much eligible.

If she is eligible she can transfer some or all of her 14 weeks paid parental leave over to you. You fit the "hours" criteria, and if you fit the "continuous service" criteria, then all she needs to do is write a little letter stating that you will be taking "joint care" of the baby attach a certificate/letter from the Midwife/Dr stating the "expected due date" with the application form/s.

nzmikey
16th April 2012, 14:48
I am scared that you are breeding :shutup:

avgas
16th April 2012, 15:25
She can't quit!!!!!!

The entitlement is on the basis that she is employed, has done the reqd hours and is going back. If you quit you get nil.

Friend changed jobs 4 months before having her babe......she got nothing.

Be very careful to follow things exactly as it says on the site or you get nothing*. (*depending on your joint salary)

DrunkenMistake
17th April 2012, 18:29
Why she leaving her job? Decisions like that and pregnancy don’t mix very well (nappy brain turns even the most intelligent into stoopid) :dodge:
she needs to keep her options open, if she is eligible they have to keep her job available to her once her parental leave is used. She may well be one of those mums that have to get back to work to save her sanity.

Depending on how part-time she is, she could still be eligible for paid parental leave.

If she has worked for the same employer for 6 months or more of continuous service, and those 6 months have been served PRIOIR to the baby’s due date, then she may be eligible depending on her hours. DOL do have a shit way of explaining the hours. But if she works at least 10hrs per week she is pretty much eligible.

If she is eligible she can transfer some or all of her 14 weeks paid parental leave over to you. You fit the "hours" criteria, and if you fit the "continuous service" criteria, then all she needs to do is write a little letter stating that you will be taking "joint care" of the baby attach a certificate/letter from the Midwife/Dr stating the "expected due date" with the application form/s.
Thanks for that break down, it makes alot of sense, ill catch up with Virago in the next few days anyway and he has basicly said the same sort of thing earlier in the thread


I am scared that you are breeding :shutup:
Yeah, the police arnt too happy..


She can't quit!!!!!!

The entitlement is on the basis that she is employed, has done the reqd hours and is going back. If you quit you get nil.

Friend changed jobs 4 months before having her babe......she got nothing.

Be very careful to follow things exactly as it says on the site or you get nothing*. (*depending on your joint salary)

I had actually misinterpreted her, when she said she would Prefer to be a stay a home mum.

She only does 16 hours a week, but she has been working for that company for 2 years now, but not those hours,
She is going to move into the night fill side of her job which is 5pm to 9pm and her boss has offered her Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights at those hours, So it means when I finish at 4 she will be able to go to work when I get home, it also means we get two days off together.

tigertim20
17th April 2012, 19:09
Thanks for that break down, it makes alot of sense, ill catch up with Virago in the next few days anyway and he has basicly said the same sort of thing earlier in the thread


Yeah, the police arnt too happy..

Neither are the flatmates, one person in the house that shits themselves and has no manners is enough!

I had actually misinterpreted her, when she said she would Prefer to be a stay a home mum.

She only does 16 hours a week, but she has been working for that company for 2 years now, but not those hours,
She is going to move into the night fill side of her job which is 5pm to 9pm and her boss has offered her Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights at those hours, So it means when I finish at 4 she will be able to go to work when I get home, it also means we get two days off together.

fuck sakes, thats how you got yourself INTO this predickament :facepalm:

kit
18th April 2012, 15:45
Firstly, take note that "paid parental leave" is a misnomer - the employer pays nothing.

The payment is actually a government paid benefit, and does not pass through the employer's hands.

Fathers can also take the paid leave, but it comes off the mother's entitlement. For example, if the mother is entitled to 13 weeks payemnt, the father may take a couple of weeks of that, dropping the mother's payment to 11 weeks.

You can work out what your entitlement is using the on-line calculator.

Note that the employer must "approve" the leave, confirming that the employee will have a job to return to.



Yes this is my understanding too. A father is entitled to it but only one person can claim at any one time male or female. Once those 14 weeks are used thats it!