Wellington Free Ambulance Charity Run (Wed 25 April)

[KoroJ]

Wellington Free Ambulance Charity Run
Wednesday 25 April

Departs: 11 am, Park Road, Upper Hutt (Outside Maidstone Park).
Meet before for briefing etc.

Ride will be into town to the Ambulance Centre in Thorndon where a cheque will be presented and there will be a Sausage Sizzle & Tea or Coffee as part of the fundraising.
Badges $10.


This ANZAC Day ride is Organised by the Wellington Ulysses Branch.

The ride will go ahead rain, hail or shine.
Please come and support the local ambulance…you may need them one day.

[GingerMidget]

How learner friendly will this be?

[Madness]

How learner friendly will this be?

Extremely.

[GingerMidget]

The only hard part for me now, is getting to the start point, from town. Haha.
Or somehow get my bike out to upper hutt, and ride over from there.

I can't realistically commit until I know if work is opening on that day anyway. If it is, I'm screwed.

[jellywrestler]

How learner friendly will this be?

wear a high viz and display your L plate that way people will (read should) keep an eye out for ya.
BTW did you get someone to look over your new toy and set it up for you?

[GingerMidget]

New toy is already perfect for me. I don't own a hi-vis. I've got white down the sides of my sleeves and shoulders, and I'm pretty easy to spot. My l-plate isn't technically a bike one, nor is it very legal. But its there. I had to mangle it to make it fit, and not cover my indicator. But its there! haha.

I'm just plotting the best way to get there, that doesn't involve too much scaring myself. First big ride!

[jellywrestler]

I don't own a hi-vis. I've got white down the sides of my sleeves and shoulders, and I'm pretty easy to spot. My l-plate isn't technically a bike one, nor is it very legal. But its there. I had to mangle it to make it fit, and not cover my indicator. But its there! haha.

give yourself every chance you can to let people know you're out there and new to it, white stripes won't tell anyone that you're new to it, even at night, you've only got one life, that's why they have L plates.

[Bad Biker]

Please come and support the local ambulance…you may need them one day.

Sorry I am unable to make this ride as i am doing the dawn parade in Masterton with my grandfather.

At age 38 (42 now) I dropped dead at home with a cardiac arrest with CPR from my wife the great people at 111 call centre and quick responce from the ambulance crews :first: they gave me a fighting chance at hospital.

I now have a defibulator in my chest gave up rugby and started to ride motorbikes as a part of a new lease on life

Fully support this cause and would urge anyone and everyone to support them as you or your family may need them when you least expect. On the road, at home, work or sport and they will be there for you so be there for them. :doctor:

[GingerMidget]

I've needed them before when I decided to head butt a tree midway down hill in a mountain bike race. Then again shoulder barging a tree. Amazing service, that truly deserves all support they can get!

[Gremlin]

One thing to point out however, large group rides are not usually learner friendly, given the large group format, which takes more concentration than a normal ride, with so many at varying skill levels.

However, I don't know the details of this ride, format, and numbers etc... just thought I would point out...

[rustic101]

KoroJ

Got the email at work last week but few details. Is there a time etc for pre registration and the likes?

Looking forward to a midweek run.

[KoroJ]

Old farts dawdling along don't usually pose a problem or threat to anyone Gremmy.

[samwp]

hey GingerMidget, I'll ride with ya, i live in central wellys which I hope is what you mean by town. Gis a bell if your keen 022 30 40 SAM

Looking forward to it too good to support the poeple picking us up off roads/gutters etc.

[Newkid]

Seeing i work for them (Medical Dispatcher) i should come along and support :) See everyone there!

[KoroJ]

KoroJ

Got the email at work last week but few details. Is there a time etc for pre registration and the likes?

Looking forward to a midweek run.

Departure is 1100 so briefing about 1050-1055. Riders usually start arriving anytime after 1015 to buy badges and socialise.

[Hoarn]

If there's a group of us heading from central Wellington out there, I'd be keen to join up (GM, Samwp etc).

[BMWST?]

you guys could go up the valley via the eastern hutt etc then you only have to get from town to petone on SH2..

[GingerMidget]

I'm doing a test run to the hutt to have lunch with my grandparents today, so I'll know if I want to attempt a largeish group ride on wednesday later today. I'll probably be sitting there wednesday morning having a whinge about how I'm nervous and all that crap, but I'll probably still end up going. I've done over 300kms already! Not bad for 9 days of ownership

[rustic101]

Average of 33 kilometres a day :rolleyes:. O well its a start.

[BMWST?]

I'm doing a test run to the hutt to have lunch with my grandparents today, so I'll know if I want to attempt a largeish group ride on wednesday later today. I'll probably be sitting there wednesday morning having a whinge about how I'm nervous and all that crap, but I'll probably still end up going. I've done over 300kms already! Not bad for 9 days of ownership

i thought i saw you yesterday out at petone?Followed by a cruiser type bike.I was going the other way in a car

[GingerMidget]

Average of 33 kilometres a day :rolleyes:. O well its a start.

Take the 'average' and work it out on the fact i didn't actually ride every day. I rode saturday, sunday and monday and today. Its now up to about 400.

Nah wasn't me in petone yesterday, I was staying off my bike with that hangover.

I did ride from ngaraunga to melling via the motorway! :banana: Nothing too dramatic, so I will be doing the wednesday ride at this stage.

[DJSin]

I'm doing a test run to the hutt to have lunch with my grandparents today, so I'll know if I want to attempt a largeish group ride on wednesday later today. I'll probably be sitting there wednesday morning having a whinge about how I'm nervous and all that crap, but I'll probably still end up going. I've done over 300kms already! Not bad for 9 days of ownership

I've been there with the nerves. There are heaps of supportive riders around Wellington that will make you feel welcome.

You'll be just fine :niceone:

[tristania]

i thought i saw you yesterday out at petone?Followed by a cruiser type bike.I was going the other way in a car

That might have been me on the cruiser following a blue ninja :)

[Hawkeye]

Take the 'average' and work it out on the fact i didn't actually ride every day. I rode saturday, sunday and monday and today. Its now up to about 400.

Nah wasn't me in petone yesterday, I was staying off my bike with that hangover.

I did ride from ngaraunga to melling via the motorway! :banana: Nothing too dramatic, so I will be doing the wednesday ride at this stage.

Just keep an eye out for a black Katana and come up and say hello. Quite happy to ride your tail to give you some protection. There will be a number of the Bronze members turning out so we'll look after you. I think the Bronze members are meeting at the duck pond Avalon and riding to mainstone en mass. (I'll need to check that out).

[rustyrobot]

Hey folks,

Any decision made on riding as a group from Welli out to the meeting place in the Hutt? I'm keen to take my youngun' along on this ride and we'll be heading out from central city. Could even meet at a cafe first for coffee?

:scooter: :scooter: :scooter: :scooter: :scooter: :scooter: :scooter:

[samwp]

Sounds grand rustyrobot by my calculations we would need to meet at 9:45 to arrive at the park ontime.

Also if we have more than a handful of people, parking may become an issue.

[rustyrobot]

Sounds grand rustyrobot by my calculations we would need to meet at 9:45 to arrive at the park ontime.

Also if we have more than a handful of people, parking may become an issue.

9:45 sounds about right - but you could be on to something with the parking. Will have a bit of a brainstorm on central(ish) cafes with a spare bit of concrete nearby.

[GingerMidget]

Salvation coffee on adelaide road. Has a large parking lot right beside it, and is conveniently close to my place :D

We could meet up with the bronz guys at avalon to give those with minor ass padding a chance to stretch their legs?

[Bald Eagle]

Wellington BRONZ Group will be assembling at the Duck Pond, Avalon for a 10:15 ride to the main ride start. You're welcome to come and join us.

[GingerMidget]

Wellington BRONZ Group will be assembling at the Duck Pond, Avalon for a 10:15 ride to the main ride start. You're welcome to come and join us.

I think I'll aim in that direction then. I don't have a hi-vis like someone suggested I should have, and theres no way I'll have a chance to get one before hand. So I'm not wearing one.

[blackdog]

That might have been me on the cruiser following a blue ninja :)

On the way to lunch at the P n' J. Hope your ride was as good as ours.

[rustyrobot]

Salvation coffee on adelaide road. Has a large parking lot right beside it, and is conveniently close to my place :D

We could meet up with the bronz guys at avalon to give those with minor ass padding a chance to stretch their legs?

I was going to say Salvation suits me fine, but looks like you might head straight to Avalon? Wonder if it will be open ANZAC morning anyway?

[GingerMidget]

Oh pants. I forgot about the not being open thing. I'll check with them on the way to work tomorrow morning if I remember. Otherwise maccas is across the road from my place, and they will be open.

[rustyrobot]

Maccas?... but... coffee!! (don't try and pass that stuff they sell as coffee, even they apologised for it!... http://recipefinder.msn.co.nz/article/foodnews/8258402/mcdonalds-apologises-for-bad-coffee )
Get better coffee at the service station.

[GingerMidget]

Maccas?... but... coffee!! (don't try and pass that stuff they sell as coffee, even they apologised for it!... http://recipefinder.msn.co.nz/article/foodnews/8258402/mcdonalds-apologises-for-bad-coffee )
Get better coffee at the service station.

Theres a bp at the other end of the building i live in. Two guys there make decent stuff. Plus large parking area for bikes.

[rustyrobot]

And also moto-caffeine for thirsty motorcycles! Sounding like a plan, if it suits other folks?

[Hoarn]

Suits me fine. Where is the BP of which you speak? Adelaide Road next to Firestone?

[GingerMidget]

Thats the one.

[zippy]

I am in upper hutt for the week with my bike so i thought i will join you so expect a bit of support from a 'sunny Hawkes Bay' rider..

Nothing has changed has it? Meeting 10ish for a 11am departure on park road?

[KoroJ]

I am in upper hutt for the week with my bike so i thought i will join you so expect a bit of support from a 'sunny Hawkes Bay' rider..

Nothing has changed has it? Meeting 10ish for a 11am departure on park road?

Yep, some might start arriving around 10'ish.

[rustyrobot]

So... city dwellers, 9:15 at the BP on Adelaide for coffee, leaving at 9:45? Anyone aware of road closures for ANZAC day?

[GingerMidget]

Works for me. I'll be there, snot bells and all. Some nasty gave me a head cold in the last day or so, so I'll self medicate with beer and pizza.

[rustic101]

Koro

Physically where is the registration point (Table etc)? I've got a group of riders and it would be great to know where to physically go rather than opposite Mitre10..

Cheers

[KoroJ]

Koro

Physically where is the registration point (Table etc)? I've got a group of riders and it would be great to know where to physically go rather than opposite Mitre10..

Cheers

No registration as such. Bikes just tend to accumulate along the Park frontage and there will be someone there wondering around (or being swamped) selling the badges. It's usually Buzz (who rides a trike and looks like Colonel Sanders).

The whole affair is pretty social and informal.

[zippy]

Great, also have a mate who is up from Gore as well this week on his bike, bit of mix coming on this ride tomorrow from all over the shot.

[blackdog]

Try and organise your ride to be at the duckpond by 1015 to join us. I really hope we have a huge turnout, weather forecast is for moar sun!

[sinned]

One sinned will be there!

[BMWST?]

Works for me. I'll be there, snot bells and all. Some nasty gave me a head cold in the last day or so, so I'll self medicate with beer and pizza.

codral cold an flu tablets.....the ones with accompanying night time ones...hardly know you have got a cold.the packet says day and night formula,the cold and flu is smaller print

[sgtp]

Never been on a charity ride before but tomorrows the day to change that. If any 250s are up for a ride afterwards, look for me on the red kawi

[rustyrobot]

Wed 25 Apr 12 ANZAC Day Commemorations
Road Closures –

Bunny Street (Featherston Street to Lambton Quay); Lambton Quay (both sides from Bunny Street to Ballance Street); Bowen Street (The Terrace to Lambton Quay) and Whitmore Street (Stout Street to Lambton Quay) from 5am until 6.30am for the Dawn Parade.

Molesworth Street (from Hill Street to Lambton Quay/Bunny Street intersection) and Lambton Quay (northbound side between Molesworth Street and Bowen Street – Cenotaph) between 10.15am and 10.45am for the Wreath Laying Ceremony. Access for buses to remain open. Event Contact Lauren Fantham, WCC Events Team, ph 803-8306 or 021227-8306. Traffic Management Jason Severn, EM Services, ph 021 328-654. File#201216.

SH1 Buckle Street (between Sussex and Taranaki Streets) from 8.00am to 1.00pm for the National Commemorative Service and Wreathlaying. Traffic diversions along Cambridge Terrace. Delays expected for the duration of the closure in the Basin Reserve and Te Aro areas. Traffic is encouraged to use alternative routes.

[rustyrobot]

Try and organise your ride to be at the duckpond by 1015 to join us. I really hope we have a huge turnout, weather forecast is for moar sun!

With traffic delays, might pay to leave the Adelaide BP at 9:30 then. Not sure if it's too late to change the time now, but will see how things are looking I guess tomorrow.

[samwp]

So to recap for central city riders:


0915 Meet at BP Adelaide

0930 Depart for duck pond

1000 Rendevouz with BRONZ chaps at duck pond


Map with detour around closed roads - http://g.co/maps/uxwx9

Please correct me if this is wrong and see you all tomorrow

[GingerMidget]

codral cold an flu tablets.....the ones with accompanying night time ones...hardly know you have got a cold.the packet says day and night formula,the cold and flu is smaller print

Done and done. None of this sneezing in my helmet carry on. Cos thats feral.

[GSW]

Well that was unfortunate... :no:

[celticbhoy]

Well that was unfortunate... :no:

Very. ......

[rustyrobot]

Just saw the report on stuff, didn't realise it was that bad. Sad stuff indeed. :no:
R.I.P.

[rustic101]

A sad day indeed more so with the purpose of the ride.
Thoughts to those at the front of the pack, the family of the rider and friends.

[6ft5]

Condolences to those he leaves behind, what a tragedy

[6ft5]

Well that was unfortunate... :no:

Was he a kiwibiker member?

[Nasty]

Was he a kiwibiker member?

No release of name or details at this stage.

[Little Miss Trouble]

Quick reminder:

Accident resulting in death or serious injury
Please show respect and consideration for the bikers, friends and family involved
Names and details are not to be discussed for 24 hours after the accident unless they are already public (in the media) or are posted by family, close friends or Moderators. When News sites publish details it is guaranteed that family and loved ones have been informed. It is the job of the Police to inform them, not this web site.

[GSW]

Was he a kiwibiker member?

I feel quite bad, when I posted that comment I did not know the rider had passed on.
I just thought it was unfortunate to have an accident on a ride to support the WFA.
My condolences go out to the family.

[samwp]

News article:

http://www.3news.co.nz/Motorcyclist-dies-at-ambulance-fundraiser/tabid/423/articleID/251801/Default.aspx

[KoroJ]

Many thanks to all who turned out for the ride (estimates are 220'ish departing from Maidstone Park) and our sincere condolences to the friends and family of the rider. (I don't believe he was a Ulysses member as stated in one of the reports)

The numbers would probably be a record turnout for this ride and a cheque for $1400 was passed to the WFA, so the generosity of those who attended is much appreciated.

We only had about half as many badges as required so more will be ordered and sent out to those who ordered and paid for them.

A pair of gloves were found in Thorndon. If anyone hears of someone missing them, PM me with the brand and where your bike was parked and I'll arrange to get them back to you.

Thanks & Regards, JM

[Gone Burger]

I have just heard the tradgic news. I feel sick, knowing so many of my friends and fellow riders along there today.

Thoughts are with the family and friends of the fallen rider. RIP.

Holding my breath like mad... really tradgic news

[GingerMidget]

The ride out from town was good. The knowledge of the people behind me pushed me and the awesome chats from a couple of people once in upper hutt on how to cope with the wind really helped. Seeing the traffic suddenly back up was scary though. RIP Fallen rider.

Thanks to the people who took charge and got things working.

[blackdog]

I will pause for reflection. Let's see what comes out of it rather than just being royally pissed that it happened. Coz on a level I can't help being fucked off about it.

I didn't hear anything or see it we were about 15 bikes in front.

[GingerMidget]

All I'll say, is thank goodness for people being able to stop, and others being able to take charge in such a situation. Go the marshalls! What a ride for a group newbie!

[blackdog]

All I'll say, is thank goodness for people being able to stop, and others being able to take charge in such a situation. Go the marshalls! What a ride for a group newbie!

You were fine. I followed you out of the duckpond and you weren't making any mistakes. I actually brought a hi vis for you too, but your white jacket is fine.

[Hoarn]

My thoughts are with the family and friends of rider.

The ride outside of the above event though was a valuable learning experience for me, and I would like to say thanks to all those that took the time to organise and run it for such a good cause.

[GingerMidget]

Thanks anyway Blackdog

[GingerMidget]

My thoughts are with the family and friends of rider.

The ride outside of the above event though was a valuable learning experience for me, and I would like to say thanks to all those that took the time to organise and run it for such a good cause.

Where did you guys end up going? We got seperated so gave up and just found our way back in to town. Was Byron, Sarah and I in the end.

[riffer]

Youngest son (Nicky, 7) and I completed the ride but we didn't really feel like hanging around afterwards. We were up the front with Blackdog and co, about a dozen bikes ahead of the mayhem.

Gini and I will be keeping an eye on Nicky for the next few days - he was a bit freaked out this afternoon about the whole affair. Tough stuff on a little one especially as it was his very first group ride.

[6ft5]

I will pause for reflection. Let's see what comes out of it rather than just being royally pissed that it happened. Coz on a level I can't help being fucked off about it.

I didn't hear anything or see it we were about 15 bikes in front.

Same here, I was in the top group also and it was a freaky feeling to hear someone had crashed. Did bring back some very unpleasant memories. A few glasses of Shiraz has helped me settle down. I just hope the victims family is going to cope.

[rustyrobot]

Youngest son (Nicky, 7) and I completed the ride but we didn't really feel like hanging around afterwards. We were up the front with Blackdog and co, about a dozen bikes ahead of the mayhem.

Gini and I will be keeping an eye on Nicky for the next few days - he was a bit freaked out this afternoon about the whole affair. Tough stuff on a little one especially as it was his very first group ride.

Hey man, that's a hard one. I haven't told my boy what happened, although of course it was obvious to him that someone got hurt. Something inside of me suggests that it's wrong to hide it from him. Tough to know. Hope it goes okay with your lad.

As others have said, if I was to talk about the ride other than this tragic event (is that possible?) - I would say that it was a really great experience. Nice to meet some of the names from here, enjoy the gorgeous weather and drool over some tasty bikes. GM lead us from town to Avalon and luckily I managed to keep up with her furious pace. All in all it makes me all the more glad that there were so many of us there to support this good cause.

I have often thought about what it might take to organise a First Aid for Bikers course/seminar. I'm sure if a group of us chipped in we could cover cost of venue and tutor.

[6ft5]

Hey man, that's a hard one. I haven't told my boy what happened, although of course it was obvious to him that someone got hurt. Something inside of me suggests that it's wrong to hide it from him. Tough to know. Hope it goes okay with your lad.

As others have said, if I was to talk about the ride other than this tragic event (is that possible?) - I would say that it was a really great experience. Nice to meet some of the names from here, enjoy the gorgeous weather and drool over some tasty bikes. GM lead us from town to Avalon and luckily I managed to keep up with her furious pace. All in all it makes me all the more glad that there were so many of us there to support this good cause.

I have often thought about what it might take to organise a First Aid for Bikers course/seminar. I'm sure if a group of us chipped in we could cover cost of venue and tutor.

Hi Rusty Robot, If you are a Ulysses member, I am sure there could be some help in that space. We promote to have first aid certified people on rides where we can.

[Hoarn]

Where did you guys end up going? We got seperated so gave up and just found our way back in to town. Was Byron, Sarah and I in the end.

I just tagged along with the main group, lost track of you guys near the start, ended up in Thorndon outside the Wellington Free Ambulance for a BBqd sausage, then home absorb the days events, with a beer or two.

[Hawkeye]

I was about 30 bikes behind the incident although I didn't see what happened. All I knew was when the riders in front of me all braked and a couple of the pillion riders put thier hands up to show they were stopping. Not a good sight to see a fellow rider down. Initially it was thought by others around me that due to the bike being on the opposite side, he wasnt with our group and had hit the barrier and come over the top.
My pillion is a health and safety trainer so immediately jumped off and started organising the traffic. Bloody old woman in the front car about 30mtrs behind us just sat complaining that she wanted to get through.:angry:

[tristania]

I was thankful for the arm signals from other riders ahead of me signalling to stop.. for some reason I thought the bikes were slowing for a regroup but then saw what happened just as I stopped. Gutted, condolences to all involved. The riding up until that point was going well, though I'm so nervous in group situations and maybe even more so now.
We abandoned the ride and went for a drink to settle the nerves. Was great to see so many different bikes and riders out, epic turnout :)

[zippy]

RIP and my condolences to the family.

I wish to thank those other bikes who stopped and assisted myself and the doctor with the CPR we all tried our best and it was not a easy situation to deal with.

[Hawkeye]

RIP and my condolences to the family.

I wish to thank those other bikes who stopped and assisted myself and the doctor with the CPR we all tried our best and it was not a easy situation to deal with.

Hey mate, you have my extreme admiration for what you done. Just make sure you talk it through with someone. Trauma like that has a way of creeping up on you when you least expect it.

[jellywrestler]

This is going to be media fest when they find out more bikes went down at the Paramata roundabout, not thirty kms from the first incident, then how many times the speed camera went off down the Ngaraunga gorge, and said photos will show the following distances etc etc.

[GSW]

The Biker has now been named...

Very sad day ... i was on the ride and its kinda put me off riding with others...

[zippy]

Hey mate, you have my extreme admiration for what you done. Just make sure you talk it through with someone. Trauma like that has a way of creeping up on you when you least expect it.

Thanks mate, i have talked it through with people already, tho i recently returned from the UK serving as a police officer over there so unfortently had to deal with alot of similar situations which tends to help.

[zippy]

The Biker has now been named...

Very sad day ... i was on the ride and its kinda put me off riding with others...


Dont let it mate, many others including me riding in such organised events for 15 years will tell you this is a rare thing.

[Rachel653]

My sister found this thread and I just signed up to say a huge Thankyou to everyone who tried to save him. I am his ex-wife and mother of our 5 year old. THankyou again for everything you all did.
RIP




RIP and my condolences to the family.

I wish to thank those other bikes who stopped and assisted myself and the doctor with the CPR we all tried our best and it was not a easy situation to deal with.

[Paul in NZ]

Hey mate, you have my extreme admiration for what you done. Just make sure you talk it through with someone. Trauma like that has a way of creeping up on you when you least expect it.

Good job that man! Never an easy thing.

[Gone Burger]

My sister found this thread and I just signed up to say a huge Thankyou to everyone who tried to save him. I am his ex-wife and mother of our 5 year old. THankyou again for everything you all did.
RIP

Dear Rachel.

We on Kiwibiker are very sorry to hear of your loss. We all hurt when one of our own has fallen as a rider, but it is never what the personal friends and family are feeling on such a huge level. I hope you have some wonderful love and support around you, and that your child has very precious memories of their daddy. Such a tragidy and sympathies are with you.

Kind regards, Katie

[Kennif]

This is going to be media fest when they find out more bikes went down at the Pauatahanui roundabout, not twenty kms from the first incident, then how many times the speed camera went off down the Ngaraunga gorge, and said photos will show the following distances etc etc.

That's an interesting statement.

I was the lead rider on the day. There were no bikes that went down at the Pauatahanui roundabout in this group that I am aware of. By this time we were well split up so I would appreciate details if you have them.

Speeds down the Ngauranga Gorge from the front were sub-80kph. As lead rider I kept my speed to less than 5kph of the speed limit for the entire trip.

It is a great shame we had a rider killed. Any suggestion that the riders were being irresponsible is unhelpful.
Kennif

[Maha]

That's an interesting statement.

I was the lead rider on the day. There were no bikes that went down at the Pauatahanui roundabout in this group that I am aware of. By this time we were well split up so I would appreciate details if you have them.

Speeds down the Ngauranga Gorge from the front were sub-80kph. As lead rider I kept my speed to less than 5kph of the speed limit for the entire trip.

It is a great shame we had a rider killed. Any suggestion that the riders were being irresponsible is unhelpful.
Kennif

I lead a Ride once...300 + bikes and kept the speed to 80kph...what happens with large numbers though, is the group gets so fragmented that those anywhere from half way back in the group, need to ride at well over the speed limit to catch up. And they do it.
When we looped back, the bikes way behind were waving their arms at me (from across the M/Way) telling me to slow down.
I slowed to 40-50kph on the M/Way (which is dangerous) in order for the bikes to bunch up.
I wont ever join an annual event here in Auckland for that very reason...last time I did, bikes were at 130-140 KPH at times...then without warning, down to 50KPH..all the while, the lead rider/s have no idea of whats going on behind them.

[rustic101]

That's an interesting statement.

I was the lead rider on the day. There were no bikes that went down at the Pauatahanui roundabout in this group that I am aware of. By this time we were well split up so I would appreciate details if you have them.

Speeds down the Ngauranga Gorge from the front were sub-80kph. As lead rider I kept my speed to less than 5kph of the speed limit for the entire trip.

It is a great shame we had a rider killed. Any suggestion that the riders were being irresponsible is unhelpful.
Kennif

I was one of the last riders through the gravel road and back on to the Highway. The only other bike I saw go down was a chap on a HD that fell off (he was almost stopped) coming off the gravel onto the tar seal. I ran up the wee hill to help lift his bike upright. He was unharmed. Other than that I certainly never saw the result of any 'carnage' post main incident.

[Berg]

I was Andy's shift partner at work and he often stayed with us at home.
A man full of life and who lived every day full on
RIP

[5150]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6812478/Killed-biker-a-clown-with-big-heart


RIP to a fallen rider. And condolences to his friends and family.

[jellywrestler]

That's an interesting statement.

I was the lead rider on the day. There were no bikes that went down at the Pauatahanui roundabout in this group that I am aware of. By this time we were well split up so I would appreciate details if you have them.

Speeds down the Ngauranga Gorge from the front were sub-80kph. As lead rider I kept my speed to less than 5kph of the speed limit for the entire trip.

It is a great shame we had a rider killed. Any suggestion that the riders were being irresponsible is unhelpful.
Kennif

My apologies, it was the Paramata Roundabout, 2 bikes.

[GingerMidget]

My apologies, it was the Paramata Roundabout, 2 bikes.

I was part of the tail end of the group. It must have happened and been cleaned up in about 30 seconds, or they weren't part of the actual ride.

Actually I was the tail.

[jellywrestler]

I was part of the tail end of the group. It must have happened and been cleaned up in about 30 seconds, or they weren't part of the actual ride.

Actually I was the tail.
so you're saying from Kennif at the front to you at the tail end; the spread of bikes was 30 seconds?

[GingerMidget]

Between the end of the group, and my little bunch, there was a couple of minutes. We ended up stopping at the mobil by the roundabout and nobody mentioned anything about accidents to us. Go figure.

[jellywrestler]

So you were only chatting about the Harley in post 91 then?

[GingerMidget]

Making sense. Would you like to?

Post 91 wasn't me, and I'm not talking about either an HD OR gravel. I'm talking about paremata.

[rustic101]

Making sense. Would you like to?

Post 91 wasn't me, and I'm not talking about either an HD OR gravel. I'm talking about paremata.

Thanks for answering that GM. I don't know how we could be confused as being the same person lol..

Jelly I was good thirty minutes or so behind the main group as was the Ófficial Tail'. It was me that helped the HD rider at post #91. I rode the route and never saw any other evidence of bikes being down. (not to say it never happened).

[Kennif]

I was one of the last riders through the gravel road and back on to the Highway. The only other bike I saw go down was a chap on a HD that fell off (he was almost stopped) coming off the gravel onto the tar seal. I ran up the wee hill to help lift his bike upright. He was unharmed. Other than that I certainly never saw the result of any 'carnage' post main incident.

Hi mate. What gravel road were you on?
Kennif

[rustic101]

Hi mate. What gravel road were you on?
Kennif

The one that ran parallel to river road, directly below the scene. I was on the grey GSX1250FA has the 'my family' stickers on the top box of me and the dog.

[jellywrestler]

Thanks for answering that GM. I don't know how we could be confused as being the same person lol..

Jelly I was good thirty minutes or so behind the main group as was the Ófficial Tail'. It was me that helped the HD rider at post #91. I rode the route and never saw any other evidence of bikes being down. (not to say it never happened).

absolutly no confusion GM; said they were at the mobil station and if there was any accidents they must have been informed so surely they were discussing the incident you mentioned in post 91 then, otherwise it never happened, simple logic????

also Kennif who was at the front and seems to know all about the ride but didn't know about that bit (post 91)

all seems to be confusing doesn't it?

[Kennif]

The one that ran parallel to river road, directly below the scene. I was on the grey GSX1250FA has the 'my family' stickers on the top box of me and the dog.

Thanks mate. Got you now. Yes I was the ride organiser for Wellington Ulysses but I hadn't been told about that little off. Or any other. Mind you, another bloke on a retro-Triumph (with his wife on the back) fell off parking at Davis Street. He is a Ulyssian so he will be fined. Oh yes. :rolleyes:
Kennif

[rustic101]

Thanks mate. Got you now. Yes I was the ride organiser for Wellington Ulysses but I hadn't been told about that little off. Or any other. Mind you, another bloke on a retro-Triumph (with his wife on the back) fell off parking at Davis Street. He is a Ulyssian so he will be fined. Oh yes. :rolleyes:
Kennif

Who hasn't forgotten to put their feet down at least once in their life time when stopped - :Oops:

[Paul in NZ]

Who hasn't forgotten to put their feet down at least once in their life time when stopped - :Oops:

Or at least found the ground to not quite be where one expected...

Um...

Look - this is a terrible situation and I could bang on forever about group rides BUT it happened and thats a fact. Its also a reality that given the collective miles accumulated in a group ride that it was almost an inevitability.

I've often supported this ride - there are a 1000 reason why I didnt do this one

I'll make it a priority to support the next one.

You have to have a certain something to persist with motorbikes and resilience (SP) is one...

[theseekerfinds]

I assisted the Triumph rider who had the oops parking in town, he said his leg gave out when he came to a standstill, he didn't forget to put his leg down.. If you do fine him bear in mind his outstanding tolerance of his wife who just kept asking him "what happened?" over and over, even after he had told her and pointed to his knee.. he deserves some kind of award for that tolerance.. when he saw the damage he even knew exactly how much his broken headlight support bracket would cost ($186 if I remember correctly) but thankfully that was the only visible damage..

aside from the obvious I had a good time on the ride yesterday, I was impressed by the turnout and walked the lineup of bikes checking them out on both sides of the road. I enjoyed the ride, the Pauatahanui Inlet road in particular was great as was seeing the massive line of headlights behind me on the motorway. Thanks to BRONZ for the pre-event meetup and ride (cheers Byron) and to Ulysses for the event.. I loved the pre-ride talk, relaxing and humourous. it is a shame it was somewhat prophetic. my condolences go to the family of the deceased rider and my support goes to those who were involved in, or witnessed, the accident and the post accident situation..

[GingerMidget]

Was it you beside me as we came in to upper hutt yesterday?

[theseekerfinds]

most likely if you were behind Byron's ZX9R

[GingerMidget]

Yes indeedy. Did first ride noobness show too much?

[theseekerfinds]

not at all, keep up the good work :-)

[Newkid]

I am not sure if anyone has heard or been advised, but the initial investigation is showing he had his bikes immobilizer in his pocket, it would appear the bikes alarm / immobilizer has been triggered and caused the bike to stop in its tracks. The initial diagnostics on the bike show the alarm was active and I am sure with further testing they will be able to confirm it. If this is the case its an even more tragic event than it already is... My thoughts and condolences go out to the friends / family of the rider. If this post is not appropriate I understand and can be deleted.

R.I.P

[Hawkeye]

I am not sure if anyone has heard or been advised, but the initial investigation is showing he had his bikes immobilizer in his pocket, it would appear the bikes alarm / immobilizer has been triggered and caused the bike to stop in its tracks. The initial diagnostics on the bike show the alarm was active and I am sure with further testing they will be able to confirm it. If this is the case its an even more tragic event than it already is... My thoughts and condolences go out to the friends / family of the rider. If this post is not appropriate I understand and can be deleted.

R.I.P

What is the source of this info?

[zippy]

I am not sure if anyone has heard or been advised, but the initial investigation is showing he had his bikes immobilizer in his pocket, it would appear the bikes alarm / immobilizer has been triggered and caused the bike to stop in its tracks. The initial diagnostics on the bike show the alarm was active and I am sure with further testing they will be able to confirm it. If this is the case its an even more tragic event than it already is... My thoughts and condolences go out to the friends / family of the rider. If this post is not appropriate I understand and can be deleted.

R.I.P



Would something like this cut the power to the bike much like if it run out of gas or the battery cut out etc?

[GingerMidget]

I missed that post until now. Never let context get in the way of indignation huh?