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[G4L4XY]

Anyone wanna help me write out a letter to get off a fine which I believe to be unjustified/unfair?

Basically it's for passing with less than 100m visibility which is bs because i had more until I was cutoff by the cager :facepalm:

[DrunkenMistake]

how exactly did you get cut off by a car if you were over taking and where where you doing it? Motorway? etc etc some detail will help

[G4L4XY]

coromandel road heading back down to thames, went to pass on the right and they turned right into a rest stop area but no indication was present by the cager, not even brake lights

[GingerMidget]

Yes, more details please.

[nzspokes]

Good luck with that.

[DMNTD]

Write it on tissue paper so then at least it will be of use :yes:

[5150]

Write it on tissue paper so then at least it will be of use :yes:

HAHA, classic :killingme

[Virago]

Stupidity isn't a valid defence.

[rustic101]

Anyone force you to complete the passing manoeuvre?

Sorry fella but the throttle goes both ways. Patients cost nothing.

Good luck but I think you will be pushing the poo up hill with a sharp stick

[DrunkenMistake]

I would just pay the fine and be done with it IMO..

Otherwise if you irritate them enough they might just bump it up to dangerous driving :corn:

[Timber020]

Dear Judge

I wz rdn my byk hard az, sum wank in cage cut me off, cawzd me 2 stak it. Let me off or I will date yr dorter. Iz she well fit?

yrz, badmofo.

[FJRider]

Anyone wanna help me write out a letter to get off a fine which I believe to be unjustified/unfair?

Basically it's for passing with less than 100m visibility which is bs because i had more until I was cutoff by the cager :facepalm:

Short answer ... probably not.


Did you see where the driver was looking just prior to your overtaking ... ???

[Coldrider]

Anyone wanna help me write out a letter to get off a fine which I believe to be unjustified/unfair?

Basically it's for passing with less than 100m visibility which is bs because i had more until I was cutoff by the cager :facepalm:just get your docter to write you a note, you had 100m visibility, but you are short sighted.<_<

[Madness]

Patients cost nothing.

Patience costs nothing. Patients on the other hand generally cost quite a bit.

[Woodman]

Hmmmm , passing where there is an ingoing/outgoing, something I don't do.

[p.dath]

I would just pay the fine and be done with it IMO..

Otherwise if you irritate them enough they might just bump it up to dangerous driving :corn:

+1. Just pay the fine.

Even if you had pulled out, and was overtaking, and then they started slowing down to turn right (and there speed drop must have been noticable), you could have braked and pulled back in behind them.

If you were so close to them at the point they pulled out that there was no chance of braking then I'm on your side. But even so, it's not usually worth defending. Paying the fine is so much easier.

[oneofsix]

Something doesn't sound right.
The place where the alleged offence happened must be easy to identify as we are told there is a rest area on right. I would presume that rest areas are only put in where there is plenty of visibility, especially one where traffic can turn right to enter them. I would have though the offence would have been overtaking on the right a vehicle that was turning right. Or was it that the OP hit an on coming vehicle, the key part of the offence being that the road was not clear rather than them not have 100m visibility?
How did the :Police: get involved? Were they on site or is it a crash or a complaint? If it is a crash then it could be much more than just paying the fine if the real cause was no indication.

[jellywrestler]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/148641-Ok-so-I-had-an-accident-over-the-weekend

I went to overtake a very slow moving car who decided it would be a marvelous idea to pull into the carpark on

the right at the exact time that I was going to pass. Now here's the thing if the car I was going to overtake had

their indicator on I wouldn't have passed (that would be stupid right?!)

[unstuck]

No rego, no insurance. 3 days out is still 3 days out. Just pay it and move on. That is all.:yes:

[oneofsix]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/148641-Ok-so-I-had-an-accident-over-the-weekend

I went to overtake a very slow moving car who decided it would be a marvelous idea to pull into the carpark on

the right at the exact time that I was going to pass. Now here's the thing if the car I was going to overtake had

their indicator on I wouldn't have passed (that would be stupid right?!)

and illegal. Instead the car operators failure to check for overtaking vehicles and turning without indicating was illegal.

Sorry, but I find it annoying the number of people who forget it is their responsibility to check they themselves are not being passed before they pull out to pass, a bit of a hobby horse but :Offtopic:

[whowhatwhere]

If there's a side road or anywhere they could pull in to you shouldn't pass.

Don't fight it mate there's no point.

[pzkpfw]

Without video evidence, how do you prove the car didn't indicate?

Human nature means the driver may well (honestly in their view (because memory is not perfect)) swear in court that they did indicate.

I doubt a court would side with the bike.

[oneofsix]

No rego, no insurance. 3 days out is still 3 days out. Just pay it and move on. That is all.:yes:

Bullshit. There have been plenty of threads on this, commented on by people in the insurance industry and those that have check with their insurances as a result of the ACC hike. Insurance view rego as the tax it is and nothing to do with vehicle operational fitness.

[oneofsix]

Without video evidence, how do you prove the car didn't indicate?

Human nature means the driver may well (honestly in their view (because memory is not perfect)) swear in court that they did indicate.

I doubt a court would side with the bike.

Also no video to prove the OP wrong so doubt :yes: therefore OP gets the benefit. As said earlier the offence appears incorrect which in turn suggests the blame is being pushed in the wrong direction and that could affect your ACC levies :devil2:

[avgas]

Say you weren't passing and its all lies

[G4L4XY]

Also no video to prove the OP wrong so doubt :yes: therefore OP gets the benefit. As said earlier the offence appears incorrect which in turn suggests the blame is being pushed in the wrong direction and that could affect your ACC levies :devil2:

I like your answer :) At this stage I just need to get the fine waived, but the next step would be to be denied liability...that will be fun.

[Harry the Barstard]

I would fight it,

As i see it, you have nothing to loose. Also it takes five minutes to write a letter. You cant win without a ticket and at least you tried.

If your recollection is correct, the car is in the wrong. It is not illegal to overtake a car if there is a rest area on the right. You are to indicate for at least three seconds before changing lanes or executing a turn. Simple.

If however, you are full of shit and just weren't paying attention and/or you passed on yellow lines...... you are buggered.

[G4L4XY]

y do ya nead hilp riting a leta r u stoopid or wot

I'm not stupid and at least I can spell properly.

I have never wrote in to get off a fine before and I thought writing in here someone may have written in before and may have advice for me so there! :motu:

[Road kill]

You've already admitted your fault on this site,remember when "you" said you didn't know if the driver had indicated or not?
Suck it up an get over it FFS.:violin:

[G4L4XY]

Meh im pretty sure they weren't indicating, im going to fight it anyway.

[The Singing Chef]

I'm not stupid and at least I can spell properly.

I have never written in to get off a fine before and I thought writing in here someone may have written in before and may have advice for me so there! :motu:

Ha he was taking the piss bro, pretty sure he can spell poperli.

[jasonu]

Ha he was taking the piss bro, pretty sure he can spell poperli.

Yup I wint 2 th lernin house win I wuz a yungun

[The Singing Chef]

Yup I wint 2 th lernin house win I wuz a yungun

It must be becos yoo are living in the Usofa. Bruddy readnek.

[BigAl]

I feel your pain AE(not literally) but if there wasn't a witness to say the driver didn't indicate then I believe you'll be wasting your time.

But hey if you're successful let us know.

[sinfull]

Dude i would suck it up, but you seem to think you are in the right so run with it !!!

Write your letter !

Dear sir/madam,
I am writing you re offence .................

I feel this is a grave misjustice as there is no way i was in the wrong, the car in question had been traveling along ..... road at .....k below the speed limit for a good 5 minutes before i decided i would be safer in front of this driver and overtook this person, when i found an open piece of road where i had 100 mtrs of visibility thoughout.........

No wait !!! Aint that what the ticket is for ? So the cop stood there and visibly measured the left over distance you had after hitting said car ?


Bwahahahaha you're fucked !

[FJRider]

Meh im pretty sure they weren't indicating, im going to fight it anyway.

Pretty sure ... ??? :lol: The cop no doubt took a statement from you bot. Made a decision ... and charged you. Write the letter and fight it in court if you are so sure.

Did he write a ticket for the other driver ... ???

[Madness]

The car drivers indication or lack thereof has no bearing whatsoever on the infringement notice issued IMHO. Pay up & learn from it I say.