Geoff the giant small bike

[caseye]

Theres more than one or two of us out here hanging on every word.Afterall it is about bikes, ain't it?
Keep up the good work, looking forward to hearing how things are going when it's all done. Ha, yeah right! all done.

[banditrider]

We just wanna know when you're gonna bolt on a super-charger...

[ducatilover]

Cheers chaps :D
It is gagging for a supercharger :Punk:
I'm surprised I haven't caught fire, all the smoking I do in the garage... :yes:

Well, replaced the cam chain etc etc etc
Still rattling.
I'm dead set on it being my feeler guages being too wide over the valve stem, they're hanging up on the retainer a bit.
Will cut some down and try clearances again.

I just want to ride the fucking thing!!!!

I threw my toys out the cot today in typical Doug fashion, this involves me putting my tools in the correct place and firing the coffee machine up, pretty fuckin' intense! As long as it doesn't cause me to have another nervous breakdown I'll be right...:shifty:

[tigertim20]

lots of people following this mate, always a good read, and great to see the dedication to getting it right. keep up the great work

[bogan]

lots of people following this

A GN isn't the quickest bit of traffic, bet he's used to a few followers :bleh:

It does make for good reading though :yes:

[ducatilover]

A GN isn't the quickest bit of traffic, bet he's used to a few followers :bleh:

It does make for good reading though :yes:

Well, with my looks and poise :innocent:
Chur


Still tapping away.
I'm certain it's not a dead valve (unless it's so minutely bent that I cannot see it...)
It has to be the clearances!

New rockers, rocker shafts, tappet/adjusters
Valve stem tops are clean and not all fucked up
cylinder head cover not warped and is torqued correctly
New cam chain
New cam sprocket
Tensioner changed, not a tension/chain problem

:bye: the fuck... is... it

Could be valve on seat noise seeing as the seats are carbon free, as are the valves?
I'm almost out of ideas, I'm a wee bit sick of repeating everything on this wee motor

I could always put the original head on?

[ducatilover]

I'll swap heads over, maybe I've dropped a valve seat or something
:facepalm:
I need to get some GSXR1100 1127 OEM rings too so I can throw the big bore kit in again :wings:

[Drew]

I'll swap heads over, maybe I've dropped a valve seat or something
:facepalm:
I need to get some GSXR1100 1127 OEM rings too so I can throw the big bore kit in again :wings:check part numbers big guy, thickness and taper may not be the same on th valves.

[Drew]

Rings I mean.

[ducatilover]

check part numbers big guy, thickness and taper may not be the same on th valves.

Good idea.
Valve angles are the same, but I haven't compared the two sets of valves yet.
It was noise with DR rockers, DR head, DR valves, DR cam, DR valve cover, DR timing chain

It's the same now with DR head/valves, GN cover, brand new cam and chain, GN rockers

The cam followers on the GN are thicker and slightly bigger than the DR ones, but the rocker ario still looks the same between the two.

I'll chuck the GN head on it and see.
If it's still noisy then we know I'm fucking it up doing clearances (intake set to .05, exh to .08mm, factory says .03-08 in and .08-.13 exh)

[ducatilover]

Rings I mean.

Ah, yes gixxer1100k rings are teh same as what was supplied with the kit, have compared/measured :D

[unstuck]

For fucks sake, stand away from the bike when it is running. It is your fillings in your teeth rattling with the shear awesome power coming from that motor, thats all.:Punk:

[ducatilover]

For fucks sake, stand away from the bike when it is running. It is your fillings in your teeth rattling with the shear awesome power coming from that motor, thats all.:Punk:

I knew there was a logical explanation
Well, it's not a loose valve seat, currently comparing both heads side by side
Doesn't look like recessed seats either.

It was quiet with the 300 kit in it, but there was a lot of oil going through the valves :facepalm:

[bogan]

Its not something like the speedo drive cos it is running without load? Or something that only sounds like the top end rattle?

[ducatilover]

Its not something like the speedo drive cos it is running without load? Or something that only sounds like the top end rattle?

Tach drive? Completely removed now, just the worm gear on teh end of the cam and that's not hitting anything
It's a very valve train esque noise... that's all I can say to explain it lol
I'm fuckin' stumped now.

Running the GN head with cleaned/lapped GN valves, GN springs/rockers.
Have turned the engine over tiny bits at a time and poked the stem-rocker gap and clearances are as I've set them, no wider at any points.
Valve - seat faces are within spec, they measured fine too, seats don't seem to be recessed. (on both heads...)
My only theories left are:
Valves need carbon on them to shut the fuck up
I should run some lead through it...
My feeler gauge set is magically different in thickness to a Suzuki recommended one (not very likely if I'm honest)


Anybody got any ideas? Think of a typical tappet noise, that's what it is, metallic ticking.


It would make sense that it's valve on seat noise, as I said earlier, it was quiet when the rings were fucked and there was a biblical amount of oil everywhere.


Quick edit, it's not my keys rattling before someone says it...
They make a nicer rattle :bleh:

[gsxr]

Ipod playing Metalica through plugz for lugz ear plugs will sort out that problem.

Or Just maybe its just the loose screws in your head rattling when you are shaking your head trying to sort a non existent problem.

[ducatilover]

Ipod playing Metalica through plugz for lugz ear plugs will sort out that problem.

Or Just maybe its just the loose screws in your head rattling when you are shaking your head trying to sort a non existent problem.

Iron Maiden or Pink Floyd for me thanks
Second idea is quite accurate :d

[caseye]

Does this old girl have a vacuum pump for fuel?
Could it be the diaphragm is buggered,? if so that's also the noise it sounds most like. I know on me coal burner if they are perished or not working the noise is as if there's a tapping coming from the tank..Yep that nosy. $50 NZ and here from Motherland in les than 1 week, shut her up beautiful, course got whole tap rebuild kit. Took about five minutes per side, quiet as a church mouse now.

Otherwise if it's fuel pumped, perhaps the pump itself is a bit noisy.

[ducatilover]

Does this old girl have a vacuum pump for fuel?
Could it be the diaphragm is buggered,? if so that's also the noise it sounds most like. I know on me coal burner if they are perished or not working the noise is as if there's a tapping coming from the tank..Yep that nosy. $50 NZ and here from Motherland in les than 1 week, shut her up beautiful, course got whole tap rebuild kit. Took about five minutes per side, quiet as a church mouse now.

Otherwise if it's fuel pumped, perhaps the pump itself is a bit noisy.

Gravity feed, no vacuum or anything :D Just an on/off with a sediment filter, so it will catch fire when it's got the big bore kit sorted and I flip it
The noise is from the head area and sounds more exhaust side than intake side.
I'll chuck a wee bit of 2t oil in and see what happens, 100:1 should be about right.
It'll give me jetting issues if I put too much in

[caseye]

OK, hows about a pin hole in yer exhaust system , either at the head or on the pipe but right up close to the head.?

[ducatilover]

OK, hows about a pin hole in yer exhaust system , either at the head or on the pipe but right up close to the head.?

Maniseal has fixed header leaks, cannot find any there, have a huge leak from the 2-1 collector, but that's an entirely different noise :innocent: an obnoxious single cylinder noise to be exact :Punk:

[Drew]

Id be looking to the carburetor personally. If for some stupid reason of course, that I gave a fuck that my shit box GN had a rattle. Which of course, I would NOT.:facepalm:

[ducatilover]

Id be looking to the carburetor personally. If for some stupid reason of course, that I gave a fuck that my shit box GN had a rattle. Which of course, I would NOT.:facepalm:

What do ya reckon I'd be looking for in teh carb?
It's a horrible rattle, gets louder when warmer and does your typical noise off the throttle of really loose valve clearances

Ruled out oil pressure issues, new oil pump, new filter, blew the galleries out etc, flows well
Even tried it without an oil filter

I ran it on 100:1 pre mix, then while I was going down a main jet size chucked a wee bit of 2t in the bowl so I could make sure it was getting through
Snoked like a 2t, but no decrease in noise.
So today has learned, it's not the valves smashing the seats
It's not oil pressure

It has to be the fucking clearances.
If anyone can manage to stop this noise I'll give them beer, I'll help drink it though :innocent:

[DrunkenMistake]

What do ya reckon I'd be looking for in teh carb?
It's a horrible rattle, gets louder when warmer and does your typical noise off the throttle of really loose valve clearances

Ruled out oil pressure issues, new oil pump, new filter, blew the galleries out etc, flows well
Even tried it without an oil filter

I ran it on 100:1 pre mix, then while I was going down a main jet size chucked a wee bit of 2t in the bowl so I could make sure it was getting through
Snoked like a 2t, but no decrease in noise.
So today has learned, it's not the valves smashing the seats
It's not oil pressure

It has to be the fucking clearances.
If anyone can manage to stop this noise I'll give them beer, I'll help drink it though :innocent:


a 5L jerry can of 91, and a Match should stop any noises coming from that GN mate :innocent:

[ducatilover]

a 5L jerry can of 91, and a Match should stop any noises coming from that GN mate :innocent:

Tried that, fucker re-spawned.
Jesus bike or something

[Fast Eddie]

get a good look at the carb, prob have to take tank off. get a good look underneath it and see what its attached to, grab wat its attached to n throw it in the river, grab something new to attach it to. noise should disappear i recon.

you're welcome

[Fast Eddie]

It has to be the fucking clearances.
If anyone can manage to stop this noise I'll give them beer, I'll help drink it though :innocent:

dont give up, get back in there and get to work!!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?client=mv-google&v=ADB83G3mcBE

[ducatilover]

get a good look at the carb, prob have to take tank off. get a good look underneath it and see what its attached to, grab wat its attached to n throw it in the river, grab something new to attach it to. noise should disappear i recon.

you're welcome

It's mounted to the intake rubber, that's it
I'll have a good check tomorrow, but I'm fairly positive it's not hitting anything.

[DrunkenMistake]

It's mounted to the intake rubber, that's it
I'll have a good check tomorrow, but I'm fairly positive it's not hitting anything.

sure you didnt leave your keys in it?

My keys have been missing for about a week now, got home tonight and heard a bad rattle from under the tank, took the tank off and fired it up, was in the airbox, took the filter out and seen nothing fired it up and no noise..

my keys were in the air filter.. :facepalm:

[ducatilover]

I probably lost my marbles in the tank.

And you, sir, are a fucking idiot

[DrunkenMistake]

I probably lost my marbles in the tank.

And you, sir, are a fucking idiot

Without a doubt,
This is why when your finishing up all of your wiring with the tank off, you dont booze up haha

[ducatilover]

Without a doubt,
This is why when your finishing up all of your wiring with the tank off, you dont booze up haha

I figured the booze thing out when I wound a stator wrong, pissed. :facepalm:

This noise does really have me fucked.
It's a typical valve noise, or cam chain noise. But the chain's tight and new etc.

It's sad to say I am losing sleep over a GN :sweatdrop I could live with the noise if it wasn't so fucking loud.

Or if it'd hurry up and throw a valve through the piston, then I'd be able to solve it

[unstuck]

Do you have quality feeler guages? They are not made in taiwan and all cut from the same drink can are they?
:Punk:

[bogan]

sure you didnt leave your keys in it?

My keys have been missing for about a week now, got home tonight and heard a bad rattle from under the tank, took the tank off and fired it up, was in the airbox, took the filter out and seen nothing fired it up and no noise..

my keys were in the air filter.. :facepalm:

ahahahahahaha, how does that ever seem like a good place to put keys? :bleh:

[Fast Eddie]

It's mounted to the intake rubber, that's it
I'll have a good check tomorrow, but I'm fairly positive it's not hitting anything.

Lol i was just talkin shit and meant carb attached to bike..throw bike away... blah.. :no::laugh:

[Drew]

Ride it over to upper hutt, then I can hear this phantom noise.

Check the butterfly on the carb for play. The slide too.

[ducatilover]

Do you have quality feeler guages? They are not made in taiwan and all cut from the same drink can are they?
:Punk:
Ordered a new moAr expensive set last night :drinkup: Needed them to do the clearances on the 600 too, speaking of which, should have some small updates for that soon :Punk:

ahahahahahaha, how does that ever seem like a good place to put keys? :bleh: :laugh: Even I don't do that!
Probably because Geoff has no airbox


Lol i was just talkin shit and meant carb attached to bike..throw bike away... blah.. :no::laugh: LOL my bad. There's a river and a very large bank next to my house...


Ride it over to upper hutt, then I can hear this phantom noise.

Check the butterfly on the carb for play. The slide too.
Slide's okay, will check the butterfly, but I'm certain that's sweet (rebuilt carb)
I could always re-assemble my spare carb and chuck it on just to be triple sure :D

[tigertim20]

LOL my bad. There's a river and a very large bank next to my house...



ha, ask around to see how well that plan is likely to work out!

have you considered that its just a GN at the rattles are because GN's arent made to exacting standards? . . .

and when you gonna have that fuckin 600 finished!?

[DrunkenMistake]

ahahahahahaha, how does that ever seem like a good place to put keys? :bleh:

I took the airbox off an put it down in the garage and I must have had my keys sitting ontop of it, must of made sense to me at the time, who knows haha.

[ducatilover]

ha, ask around to see how well that plan is likely to work out!

have you considered that its just a GN at the rattles are because GN's arent made to exacting standards? . . .

and when you gonna have that fuckin 600 finished!?

It'd work fine, it's not insured and my mates aren't cunts :shutup:

I very much doubt the rattle is because of lower than normal standards, I've done many a GN's clearances and got rid of rattles just like this, only exception being one with a rooted cam chain

The 600? Jebus, I'll never be finished with that :D Every time I go near it I see a detail I want to improve, then go completely overboard on said details.
I still cannot decide what to do with the bottom of the forks, the silver is boring and black may be a bit much, polished would look homo.
:angry:

[tigertim20]

It'd work fine, it's not insured and my mates aren't cunts :shutup:

I very much doubt the rattle is because of lower than normal standards, I've done many a GN's clearances and got rid of rattles just like this, only exception being one with a rooted cam chain

The 600? Jebus, I'll never be finished with that :D Every time I go near it I see a detail I want to improve, then go completely overboard on said details.
I still cannot decide what to do with the bottom of the forks, the silver is boring and black may be a bit much, polished would look homo.
:angry:
youd not be the first person to think you were clever, only to be deceived by his own stupidity! Karma - maybe its real after all.

well how many times you tried the clearances now? it either aint the clearances, or your you're not a very good mechanic . . .

ha, yes that is a problem I can sympathise with. Maybe summer will encourage more riding less tinkering

[ducatilover]

well how many times you tried the clearances now? it either aint the clearances, or your you're not a very good mechanic . . .

ha, yes that is a problem I can sympathise with. Maybe summer will encourage more riding less tinkering

I've tried clearances a few times, but I have had similar issues with wide feeler gauges hanging up on the edges of retainers and giving a false reading/clearance before, also with straight gauges being bent past valve inspection covers/head surfaces giving false clearances, quite annoying.

I am beginning to doubt my mechanical abilities now :facepalm: bit of a bummer

Not too fussed about getting the 600 finished in a hurry, I am fussed on making it perfect though.
But every time a detail changes, another doesn't match, 'tis a violent circle.

[ducatilover]

Could also be me just being far too fucking pedantic as always.
I'm trying to think of the last single with tappt adjustment I heard that was actually quiet up top :facepalm:
I'll just ride the cunt, if it explodes I'll swear at it and build a new engine, not like it's expensive...



New game people:
How long 'till I explode/flip it in anger?
Or pull it down to repaint because there's dirt on the swing arm again

[tigertim20]

I've tried clearances a few times, but I have had similar issues with wide feeler gauges hanging up on the edges of retainers and giving a false reading/clearance before, also with straight gauges being bent past valve inspection covers/head surfaces giving false clearances, quite annoying.

I am beginning to doubt my mechanical abilities now :facepalm: bit of a bummer

Not too fussed about getting the 600 finished in a hurry, I am fussed on making it perfect though.
But every time a detail changes, another doesn't match, 'tis a violent circle.

what kind of feeler gauges are you using? I assume you have ordered some new ones that will allow better access? maybe you need to walk away from it and come back in a week - youll probably find its something stupidly obvious you've overlooked, the old cant see th woods for the trees syndrome.

yes, the jigsaw puzzle of modding. I have boxes full of shit I bought then removed cos it didnt work with the next mod - probably a bit of poor planning on my part, but sometimes you need a part ON the bike before you can visualize the next step.

Did you paint it again yet? you were going purple or something next werent you?

[ducatilover]

what kind of feeler gauges are you using? I assume you have ordered some new ones that will allow better access? maybe you need to walk away from it and come back in a week - youll probably find its something stupidly obvious you've overlooked, the old cant see th woods for the trees syndrome.

yes, the jigsaw puzzle of modding. I have boxes full of shit I bought then removed cos it didnt work with the next mod - probably a bit of poor planning on my part, but sometimes you need a part ON the bike before you can visualize the next step.

Did you paint it again yet? you were going purple or something next werent you?

They were you a-typical straight fuckers, have got a set of bent and tapered puppies coming, needed an excuse to get them for yonks, the straight ones have served me well though, countless cars/bikes, lines of coke...maybe not the coke
I'm leaving it be for a bit, got a few things to do on the 600 and some other peoples toys to sort out anyway

I have fucking heaps of parts I got and didn't want, I have 5 different temp gauges in one drawer just for the 600 :sweatdrop

It hasn't been painted again...yet :laugh: I'm being me about it, can't make up my mind.
I'm thinking satin black/white race number box thingies on the tail, or flat silver.
Got a few small updates to get pics of tomorrow on it anyway, will post them up :Punk:

[ducatilover]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/27082012052.jpg http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/27082012051.jpghttp://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/27082012050.jpghttp://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/27082012049.jpghttp://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/27082012048.jpg

When in doubt, take lots of pics!!!!!!!!!
Parking the two toys together does make me rather happy :Punk:
Fuck I am GOOD!!!!!!!

[ducatilover]

Made some little side covers this evening, will fit them and get pics tomorrow :yes:

[banditrider]

Inspiration...

[ducatilover]

:shit: Far out!!!! That's cool

[nathanwhite]

I've seen that bad boy before

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151930-The-inspiration-thread?p=1130374759#post1130374759

[banditrider]

I've seen that bad boy before

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151930-The-inspiration-thread?p=1130374759#post1130374759

I hadn't - now I don't like it after seeing it side on...

[nathanwhite]

I hadn't - now I don't like it after seeing it side on...

:Oops:

.........

[ducatilover]

It's so strange that I want/need it.

[Drew]

It's so strange that I want/need it.Yer so full o' shit Doug.

You like it cos it's shiney ya fuckin magpie!:yes:

[ducatilover]

Yer so full o' shit Doug.

You like it cos it's shiney ya fuckin magpie!:yes:

Hahahahaha You caught me!
Speaking of magpies, one does often walk up to the door of the garage and watch me scratch my head/work. I named him Barry.

Valves sound like they should now, quiet tap.
But, the giant tapping noise persists.
Whipped the head back off to see if anything has been toughing, nope, clean and happy.
Piston's not hitting the head, or gasket...or valves.
If you tap teh valves casually with a hammer (you know, as ya do) you can hear them tick against the seat, so I'm just leaving it down to valve noise and fuck the stupid thing. Got an appointment with the shrink in the morrow 25km away, so if it explodes I have a legitmate excuse to burn it, then build it with a DR350 motor

[ducatilover]

Going to split the cases and order new bearings
Have to grind the gear lever off as it's welded on :D so I'll be needing a new one of them and I'll throw new bearings everywhere

Will upload pics if I remember to stop for five minutes :D

[ducatilover]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/motor.jpg

That is all.

[bogan]

www.kiwiplugs.co.nz

Problem solved!

[Drew]

I'm thinking of unsubscribing from this thread. It's getting a bit ground hog day. Doug puts it together, then he rips it to bits.

[ducatilover]

I'm thinking of unsubscribing from this thread. It's getting a bit ground hog day. Doug puts it together, then he rips it to bits.
:motu: :bleh:

www.kiwiplugs.co.nz (http://www.kiwiplugs.co.nz)

Problem solved!

That would work...except I found my problem and why the noises all of a sudden got worse.

A crank bearing fell apart and the piston punched a valve :Punk:
Fuck yeah, finally something decent worth worrying about.

So I suppose I'll rebuild it, blow it up and have to PM Drew all the updates if he unsubscribes

:yes:

I dislike this bike, yet I love it.
It's a shame nobody seems to have DR350 cranks...or LT500 cranks

[Drew]

:motu: :bleh:


That would work...except I found my problem and why the noises all of a sudden got worse.

A crank bearing fell apart and the piston punched a valve :Punk:
Fuck yeah, finally something decent worth worrying about.

So I suppose I'll rebuild it, blow it up and have to PM Drew all the updates if he unsubscribes

:yes:

I dislike this bike, yet I love it.
It's a shame nobody seems to have DR350 cranks...or LT500 cranksRe power the bloody thing with something decent will ya. Isn't there a modern 450 Suzuki enduro? Charging system for your lights, and wheel popping fun through fourth fuckin gear baby!

[ducatilover]

Re power the bloody thing with something decent will ya. Isn't there a modern 450 Suzuki enduro? Charging system for your lights, and wheel popping fun through fourth fuckin gear baby!

I'm torn between keeping the 300 motor or buying something that's actually decent and shoving it in. I'd be more than happy with a DR350 engine, eneough power to make the frame give up and a wee bit of torque (compared to the 250 lol)
But, I started this as a build on a budget and I think I still need to see a 30hp GN motor
Even if it costs me valves, pistons, bearings, rings and clutches :facepalm:

What a fuckin' muppet :crazy:

[actungbaby]

Two cups of tea and I smoke while I work :innocent: it's amazing I haven't caught on fire!
Was a wee bit slow anyway, being pedantic and I have some weird infection in a few cuts on my hands :blink: AIDS or some shit probably

Oh come on the old timers had kero head lamps and they checked there fuel tanks with a candle hehe

I gven up smoking yet again you tempting me all this smokeing talk

[Drew]

I gven up smoking yet again you tempting me all this smokeing talk

Same, two months for me as of tomorrow, and I still fuckin want one everytime this arsehole mentions it.

[ducatilover]

Just inspected the gear sets etc, all are happy (not like 22hp was going to break anything) had a few smokes and checked everything else over.
Will re-bearing it, 300 kit and call it a day. I'll get another motor if I'm going to build a proper thing out of it :yes:

It's time to play with the 600 instead

[banditrider]

More inspiration for ya:

269561

[ducatilover]

Sitting on a chopped bike smoking a pipe? That is pure brilliance!

Bearings and rings should be here soon too :D
Chances are I'll forget something and explode it again within a week.

[ducatilover]

No surprise here, but new engine plan.

I have a DR motor on it's way.

A big one.

[willytheekid]

No surprise here, but new engine plan.

I have a DR motor on it's way.

A big one.

:corn:...god bless u mate

...your thread got me through another monday smiling.:2thumbsup

keep up the awesome work mate :love: (...thats JUST a manhug! lol)

[ducatilover]

keep up the awesome work mate :love: (...thats JUST a manhug! lol)
Cheers Willy, keep your hands above the hips mate :cool:

[banditrider]

I have a DR motor on it's way.

A big one.

The biggest?

[Drew]

No surprise here, but new engine plan.

I have a DR motor on it's way.

A big one.I'm sure someone suggested earlier to just repower it. Fuckin good lookin cunt he was too!


The biggest?God I hope so. Then we'll get another funny story about Doug flipping his bike in a muppet wheelie attempt.

[tigertim20]

No surprise here, but new engine plan.

I have a DR motor on it's way.

A big one.

DR? or DRZ?

[ducatilover]

The biggest? Not quite, couldn't find DR800 motor :(


I'm sure someone suggested earlier to just repower it. Fuckin good lookin cunt he was too!

God I hope so. Then we'll get another funny story about Doug flipping his bike in a muppet wheelie attempt.
Some cunt mentioned it, yeah :bleh: I took the riding God's advice.
It'll wheelie, I think.

DR? or DRZ?
DR600.
If it's impossible to bend the frame over the DR motor, I'll have to think of another chassis to stick it in (3LN3 or MC22 maybe?)

[Drew]

Not quite, couldn't find DR800 motor :(


Some cunt mentioned it, yeah :bleh: I took the riding God's advice.
It'll wheelie, I think.

DR600.
If it's impossible to bend the frame over the DR motor, I'll have to think of another chassis to stick it in (3LN3 or MC22 maybe?)OK, so it's not gonna be GN at all. You don't need an in line four frame, the RGV NSR frames are more available and plenty wide enough for a single.

Biggest problem you have with any of them, is the top engine mount. None of those bikes have one.

[nzspokes]

DR600.
If it's impossible to bend the frame over the DR motor, I'll have to think of another chassis to stick it in (3LN3 or MC22 maybe?)

Lightweight, cut frame, fit motor, weld frame with whatever tube. Sorted.:headbang:

Thats how we used to get 351s into mark 2 Cortinas

[ducatilover]

OK, so it's not gonna be GN at all. You don't need an in line four frame, the RGV NSR frames are more available and plenty wide enough for a single.

Biggest problem you have with any of them, is the top engine mount. None of those bikes have one.
Top engine mount is easily sorted, I was thinking NSR/RGV sort of thing, the NSR is easy to convert to a single sided swinger too. An RS125 would be perfect for a big single conversion. Only reason I say FZR 3LN3 is it's (In my retarded opinion) an awesome looking bike :facepalm:
Plan one is to make sure the motor is usable, then attempt to fit and then we'll see what happens :niceone:
I'm up north for a few more weeks anyway, so there may be a wee bit of eBay raping going on

Lightweight, cut frame, fit motor, weld frame with whatever tube. Sorted.:headbang:

Thats how we used to get 351s into mark 2 Cortinas
That's my second plan after the cross fingers and hope I can make mounts plan :lol:

[Fast Eddie]

Whats up DL, im just about to nip into town to buy a rear tyre for teh mrs GN250..

do you know the tyre size in a more english friendly number. I got MS90-16 off the rear... that is no good to me haha.. I want a number like ... 100/80/R16 or something......

[ducatilover]

I've got a 130-something on mine. You can get BT45s and Sport Demons on them :2thumbsup

[Fast Eddie]

I've got a 130-something on mine. You can get BT45s and Sport Demons on them :2thumbsup

chur, meh the shop sold me some random size.. pretty skinny but wof legal :D 80 buck so you know its good.

[ducatilover]

chur, meh the shop sold me some random size.. pretty skinny but wof legal :D 80 buck so you know its good.
As long as it's round she'll be right bro :headbang: There are a shit load on GN125 OE fitted tyres floating around from all those people converting them in to "farm bikes" at teh moment

[ducatilover]

Errr... I've found another cheap GN...
If I buy it, I do hope somebody here comes over and punches me in the face :laugh:


I could strap 'em together and make a 250 + 250 + 250 + 300 + 600 GN...:mellow:

[Drew]

Errr... I've found another cheap GN...
If I buy it, I do hope somebody here comes over and punches me in the face :laugh:


I could strap 'em together and make a 250 + 250 + 250 + 300 + 600 GN...:mellow:PM me your address, just in case.

[mossy1200]

I managed to pick up a Geoff MkII that im picking up tonight. 2004 16km rego on hold $250.00 . Comes with alot of rust im guessing.

[Drew]

I managed to pick up a Geoff MkII that im picking up tonight. 2004 16km rego on hold $250.00 . Comes with alot of rust im guessing.

's OK, I know where you live already. But you're bigger than me, so I wont come smack you.:no:

[mossy1200]

's OK, I know where you live already. But you're bigger than me, so I wont come smack you.:no:

You know me Drew. I wont keep it ill fix and sell it.

GNlover . I ment ducatilover might buy it for 600 as is maybe.

[Drew]

GNlover . I ment ducatilover might buy it for 600 as is maybe.Hahahahaha, it's funny because it's true!

[ducatilover]

PM me your address, just in case. I'm not entirely sure about that
:shifty:

I managed to pick up a Geoff MkII that im picking up tonight. 2004 16km rego on hold $250.00 . Comes with alot of rust im guessing.
Will have a shit load of rust, but how the hell did you get it for that coin? Got pics?

You know me Drew. I wont keep it ill fix and sell it.

GNlover . I ment ducatilover might buy it for 600 as is maybe. Very tempting, but it won't have wire wheels :shutup:
I'm thinking I should buy something extremely small, like a YB-1, CB100 or what-have-you and put the GN motor with a 79mm DR350 piston in it (or the DR600 engine)


Hahahahaha, it's funny because it's true! :facepalm:
As I said, I'm a sick man. It's a good think I have my brother's bachelor party to spend money on instead :laugh:

[ducatilover]

The chap with the DR600 motor had a new cam for it too, which I've just purchased.
Motor should be on its way to me soon and then I'll give it a check over and possibly re-bearing/ring etc it, just because.

My little tiny legs are not going to like kick starting a 600cc single though :laugh:

[Drew]

My little tiny legs are not going to like kick starting a 600cc single though :laugh:There's a knack to it.

Don't kick too hard is the first thing.

[ducatilover]

There's a knack to it.

Don't kick too hard is the first thing.
I'm just glad they fitted them with a de-comp system.
But. it's all up in the air 'till I can figure out if the engine is useable anyway :yes:
Better get me a new number plate for the other bike in the mean time, maybe spend some money on it too

[Drew]

I'm just glad they fitted them with a de-comp system.
:facepalm:

De-comp levers, are there to get the motor in the right spot so that you can kick start it, I understand.

[banditrider]

I'm just glad they fitted them with a de-comp system.
But. it's all up in the air 'till I can figure out if the engine is useable anyway :yes:
Better get me a new number plate for the other bike in the mean time, maybe spend some money on it too

My 400S was a piece of cake to kick with the right technique. I never actually kicked it - just used my (considerable) weight to do the work.

270933

[Drew]

I never actually kicked it - just used my (considerable) weight to do the work.

Yip, just move it through it's stroke smoothly, and away they go.

[bogan]

:facepalm:

De-comp levers, are there to get the motor in the right spot so that you can kick start it, I understand.

I thought they allowed it to turn over a once or twice to get a decent speed up before going full comp and firing. Tis easy enough to feel TDC without one I would have thought. Reckon GNlover is going to need to put on his heaviest boots either way :innocent:

[banditrider]

Tis easy enough to feel TDC without one I would have thought. Reckon GNlover is going to need to put on his heaviest boots either way :innocent:

Yep, it only hurts if you get that bit wrong...

[ducatilover]

:facepalm:

De-comp levers, are there to get the motor in the right spot so that you can kick start it, I understand. Yes and I need all the help I can get, weak legs, spinal injuries, no muscle and less than 60kg don't ever work in my favour :facepalm:


My 400S was a piece of cake to kick with the right technique. I never actually kicked it - just used my (considerable) weight to do the work.

I lack in weight :shutup: But shirley I'll manage...how hard can it be?


Reckon GNlover is going to need to put on his heaviest boots either way :innocent: I've thought of leaded boots to help, but I dunno if I'll be able to lift 'em :laugh:

[Drew]

Yes and I need all the help I can get, weak legs, spinal injuries, no muscle and less than 60kg don't ever work in my favour :facepalm:

Fuckin 'ell!

You didn't fuck your back looping the six did you?

[ducatilover]

Fuckin 'ell!

You didn't fuck your back looping the six did you?
Nope, long before that. Threw a slower bike on the road in '05 and did myself a few little boo-boos. Couple of slipped disk things, spinal compression, broken pelvis, hip, shoulder and such like, the norm ya know?
Not during a wheelie though, more a 160k+ slapper :facepalm:

[Drew]

Nope, long before that. Threw a slower bike on the road in '05 and did myself a few little boo-boos. Couple of slipped disk things, spinal compression, broken pelvis, hip, shoulder and such like, the norm ya know?
Not during a wheelie though, more a 160k+ slapper :facepalm:

I don't know I'm afraid. I've crashed more than most, and have been beyond lucky.

[ducatilover]

I don't know I'm afraid. I've crashed more than most, and have been beyond lucky.
But, you're the God and stuff, I'm a bad crasher! I loop a bike and break a hand that won't heal after a year :yes:
Must have been all the miles I've done on Hondas?

[banditrider]

I lack in weight :shutup: But shirley I'll manage...how hard can it be?

Don't call me Shirley! Just don't stall it (say by dropping it in a stream) when it's hot - you get plenty of kicking practice then...

[ducatilover]

Don't call me Shirley! Just don't stall it (say by dropping it in a stream) when it's hot - you get plenty of kicking practice then...
I don't plan on going through any streams in the near future

Shirley!






Plans are coming in to place for a better, m0ar awesomererer home for the DR, which would invlove a tig and somebody else doing some welding, so Geoff may stay a 300cc puss-rocket for the time being

[Oblivion]

I don't plan on going through any streams in the near future

Shirley!






Plans are coming in to place for a better, m0ar awesomererer home for the DR, which would invlove a tig and somebody else doing some welding, so Geoff may stay a 300cc puss-rocket for the time being

Why not make it a 600cc I4 puss-rocket :buggerd:

When you pass someone, just remember to tell them that the flux capacitor just kicked in :shifty:

[mossy1200]

I'm not entirely sure about that
:shifty:

Will have a shit load of rust, but how the hell did you get it for that coin? Got pics?



And it doesnt even smoke.
Sidecovers in garage. Thats after first clean. Had to buy a new battery also but its all go and ready to get warrent and rego on Saturday.

[ducatilover]

Why not make it a 600cc I4 puss-rocket :buggerd:

But I already own a 600 I4 :bleh:


And it doesnt even smoke.
Sidecovers in garage. Thats after first clean. Had to buy a new battery also but its all go and ready to get warrent and rego on Saturday.

That's a very good score mate

[ducatilover]

If I was to go ahead and put the DR in the GN, would this mean I could potentially own NZ's fastest GN? :sunny:

[Drew]

If I was to go ahead and put the DR in the GN, would this mean I could potentially own NZ's fastest GN? :sunny:

No, some people put good motors in them.














Sick cunts.

[Drew]

I've got a VJ21 RGV rolling chassis. That would make a good home for the DR6

[ducatilover]

No, some people put good motors in them.














Sick cunts. You'd have to be fucked in the head to do that...
I've never seen any modified GNs in the flesh (except for matt black ones or with MX bars)
What other spastic engine swaps have been done?


I've got a VJ21 RGV rolling chassis. That would make a good home for the DR6
It would...
How much? :innocent:

[Drew]

You'd have to be fucked in the head to do that...
I've never seen any modified GNs in the flesh (except for matt black ones or with MX bars)
What other spastic engine swaps have been done? Only seen pictures on the net. You'd really hope they were photoshopped.



It would...
How much? :innocent:I was only mentioning it, it's getting a transplant of my own. GT125 power!

[ducatilover]

Only seen pictures on the net. You'd really hope they were photoshopped.
Mine were, I don't actually own a GN, it's all an act to make people hate me because I'm a gay hipster emo love child.


I was only mentioning it, it's getting a transplant of my own. GT125 power!
Fuck ya then.
Mine's bigger

[Drew]

Fuck ya then.
Mine's biggerI will probably never get round to doing anything with it. LOL

[ducatilover]

I will probably never get round to doing anything with it. LOL
Just like the situation with me leaving paradise and going home to finish my 300 engine, then start on the 600 engine and the next project idea...even though the current ones aren't finished? :facepalm:
I love being able to do so much dumb shit :D

[Drew]

I love being able to do so much dumb shit :DI hate not being in a position to do anything properly.:facepalm:

[ducatilover]

I hate not being in a position to do anything properly.:facepalm:
You can get pills for that, buddy. :mellow:

[Drew]

You can get pills for that, buddy. :mellow:Yeah, can't afford them either.

[ducatilover]

Yeah, can't afford them either.
Popsicle stick and string?

I've been contemplating doing a custom frame for the DR motor and just doing Geoff with his rightful chug-tastic motor (albeit with a DR350 piston, not the 78mm Camembert item from Chinuh)
That way I can be even more silly with it

[Drew]

Popsicle stick and string?

I've been contemplating doing a custom frame for the DR motor and just doing Geoff with his rightful chug-tastic motor (albeit with a DR350 piston, not the 78mm Camembert item from Chinuh)
That way I can be even more silly with itWithout a jig to make a frame, you're on the back foot from teh get go.

Get an RGV (you can probably buy mine if you mak an offer), NSR, KR1, or some such.

Even the inline 4 250s are pretty skinny and wouldn't look rediculous.

[ducatilover]

Without a jig to make a frame, you're on the back foot from teh get go.

Get an RGV (you can probably buy mine if you mak an offer), NSR, KR1, or some such.

Even the inline 4 250s are pretty skinny and wouldn't look rediculous.
It'd be using something with geometry I like as a reference. That's it. I'd like a trellis frame. It's completely do-able and why not?

Just got to pull lots of finger and finish the shit I've started and try not to buy cute little bikes :laugh: Have almost placed bids on several GNs, a small CB, a CG125, a CT, and a YB-1 this week... Maybe boredom, sun and beach time is bad for me

[Drew]

It'd be using something with geometry I like as a reference. That's it. I'd like a trellis frame. It's completely do-able and why not?

Just got to pull lots of finger and finish the shit I've started and try not to buy cute little bikes :laugh: Have almost placed bids on several GNs, a small CB, a CG125, a CT, and a YB-1 this week... Maybe boredom, sun and beach time is bad for me

Then you my friend, need to PM Carzy Man on here.

He makes his own trellis frames, and they look the fuckin SHIZ!

[ducatilover]

Then you my friend, need to PM Carzy Man on here.

He makes his own trellis frames, and they look the fuckin SHIZ!
Palmy based isn't he?

[Drew]

Palmy based isn't he?
Something like that.

[ducatilover]

Something like that.
Will contact him when I start having a serious think about it, cheers
He must be the guy with that epic trellis frame NC30 then?

[ducatilover]

I do know of a complete MC19 I may be able to get, it has a small engine problem involving a rod poking out the block. So if I was to go with a 4 cyl chassis, that'd be an easy way to go
Would be pretty light all striped down too I'd thing, less plastics, custom loom, maybe no battery if possible etc

[Drew]

I do know of a complete MC19 I may be able to get, it has a small engine problem involving a rod poking out the block. So if I was to go with a 4 cyl chassis, that'd be an easy way to go
Would be pretty light all striped down too I'd thing, less plastics, custom loom, maybe no battery if possible etcAh, it's got an electrical fault. When you push the start button, it doesn't start!

You could probably have a finished product in the region on 120-140 kilos if you were careful with engineering, and skimped on such comforts as, seat padding and effective lighting.

[ducatilover]

Ah, it's got an electrical fault. When you push the start button, it doesn't start!

You could probably have a finished product in the region on 120-140 kilos if you were careful with engineering, and skimped on such comforts as, seat padding and effective lighting.
That explains it lol

If it was to be an MC19, it'd just be the rolling frame. Custom tail/subframe, stock headlights on an alloy mount because they're light little buggers (PUN!)
Lots of polished shit of course.
I'd rather an RGV, but I'm poor.
Full fairing and trick suspenders would be bloody awesome fun, but can't afford that either.

Seems far more do-able than a custom frame...would work better too:yes:

[tigertim20]

That explains it lol

If it was to be an MC19, it'd just be the rolling frame. Custom tail/subframe, stock headlights on an alloy mount because they're light little buggers (PUN!)
Lots of polished shit of course.
I'd rather an RGV, but I'm poor.
Full fairing and trick suspenders would be bloody awesome fun, but can't afford that either.

Seems far more do-able than a custom frame...would work better too:yes:

after an rgv frame?

hasnt someone on here got a big thread about rebuilding his rgv? ended up buying a second bike and had shitloads of faults etc etc, might be worth searching and seeing if he wants to flick off hos spare frame. Its probably still a live frame too . . .

[Drew]

after an rgv frame?

hasnt someone on here got a big thread about rebuilding his rgv? ended up buying a second bike and had shitloads of faults etc etc, might be worth searching and seeing if he wants to flick off hos spare frame. Its probably still a live frame too . . .

That'd be Asher. Epic fail rebuild that one.

He's in Christchurch, but yeah, he has a complete roller he isn't using.

[ducatilover]

:yes: Definitely worth considering

Finally went home from happy north-sun-beach-ville and my rings for the 300 motor are here.
Suppose I better make sure those round bits in it are still round... :mellow:

[Fast Eddie]

i had a 600cc single, no decomp, easy enough.

trying to find pics of ur GN DL to show mrs shes bored of her gn n said its got gay riding position, didnt u flip ur bars upside down? cnt b fucked wading thru this thread looking for photos

[ducatilover]

If you want pics find my profile on photobucket, dirtydoogle or add me on bookface Doug Von-Crumb Vader-Hamm (damn fucking right)

[bogan]

cnt b fucked wading thru this thread looking for photos

Yeh good point, trailer building is a much more important job right?

[Fast Eddie]

add me on bookface Doug Von-Crumb Vader-Hamm (damn fucking right)
haha chur!


Yeh good point, trailer building is a much more important job right?

ha! fuckn trailer, will get back to that at a later date. Wheels didn't fit on hubs (center hole is not quite right) so can't make an axle etc etc. so yea, sitting there waiting for a return to complete. just like the RS250.. and the windows to be painted..

[gsxr]

Dont paint the windows. I tried that. Stopped the neighbors seeing in but I couldnt see out either.

[bogan]

haha chur!



ha! fuckn trailer, will get back to that at a later date. Wheels didn't fit on hubs (center hole is not quite right) so can't make an axle etc etc. so yea, sitting there waiting for a return to complete. just like the RS250.. and the windows to be painted..

I'll swap you a bag of chips and a fiver for it, or the bars from doug's GN :shifty:

[ducatilover]

Today I'm going to see if I can fit the GN stator and flywheel on the DR250 crank, if so, I'll have two bad-arse kick start beasts.
Unless the DR stator is useable...suppose I better check it.
I might as well finish the 300-ish motor while the other one is coming

I will need a RHS engine cover, gear lever and kick start lever though

[ducatilover]

Fun fact

A DR600 will fit in a GN frame.

I'll need to make mounts, but it's completely do-able.
Fits easy as pie (not the 3.1415926 thing)

[Conquiztador]

Dont paint the windows. I tried that. Stopped the neighbors seeing in but I couldnt see out either.

Try rubbish bags and packaging tape. Quicker, can be reversed if you get a better idea and you can make small holes in them so you can peek out.

[Fast Eddie]

I'll swap you a bag of chips and a fiver for it, or the bars from doug's GN :shifty:

haha nah I'll finish it.. will finish the rs250 as well.. and the sidecar..

one day

painted some more of the windows yesterday. they look sharp, tintings for homos

[bogan]

Fun fact

A DR600 will fit in a GN frame.

I'll need to make mounts, but it's completely do-able.
Fits easy as pie (not the 3.1415926 thing)

Need Pics!


painted some more of the windows yesterday. they look sharp

They will be sharp if you press too hard with the paintbrush.

[ducatilover]

I'll get pics at some point today.

It looks like it's going to be...err interesting to mount, it looks like the lower part of the rear is going to hit the frame if I have the top rear mount with the swingarm like standard.
I'll have a bit of a play and see if I want to do it. (of course I do :D )

[ducatilover]

Poor lighting today
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image096_zpscd11a5f1.jpg Here be some flat alloy dummy mounts for the lower front I bashed up, nice 'n rangi
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image095_zps8b0c9b2a.jpg
You can see the lower rear mount with a bolt through it hitting the brake lever (used the bolt + ratchets to lift the engine in, I'm too weak)


This can be done if I have a two part rear mount.
If the rear mount goes from the top engine mount to the lower (down below the gear shift shaft) and then bolts to the original lower mount on the chassis (on the bar where the center stand mounts), then have one from the swing arm pivot that bolts to the other.
Hopefully the shit paint pic here helps visualise http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Paintthing_zpsfa7746e5.jpg Incredibly shithouse paint image
Fits very well, I just have to trim the lower rear frame mount back and re-drill them and I can pull the motor back a bit more.

No issues with chain/frame clearance, but it'll need a roller on the swing arm as the sprocket is a lot lower than a GN one

Kind of neat that it'll only take 5 minutes with a hack saw to trim the mount and then start making some dummy mounts out of flat alloy poo I have floating around :headbang:

The motor has the kick start blanked off and there's no electric start (bulge at the front is a second balance shaft, I think) I have all the bits here except the lever, so it looks like I'll have to open 'er up properly and install that.
It turns over rear nice, there's no play in the gudgeon, the piston is sweet, has new rings too, bore will want a hone as it's a bit ugly, but that's no big deal.
The head is very similar in design to a GN, but runs twin plugs.
The carb is okay externally, but I'll rebuild it once mounts are done
It even came with header pipes :D
There's about a million random spares, CDI, coils, gaskets, throttle tube etc etc

Oh and who loves my high tech Kiwi spec engine stand?

[Drew]

Cool.

Where you make plates to go from original mounts to your motor, you need to put a grommet/spacer/tube between the plates.

Also, you really really really wanna get the sprocket as close as possible to the swing arm mount. If you don't, the rear suspension won't rebound at all with the gas on.

[ducatilover]

Cool.

Where you make plates to go from original mounts to your motor, you need to put a grommet/spacer/tube between the plates.

Also, you really really really wanna get the sprocket as close as possible to the swing arm mount. If you don't, the rear suspension won't rebound at all with the gas on.

I'll be moving the motor back and up a bit when I trim the rear lower mount, so fingers crossed we don't have too many issues
Definitely have spacers between the mounts, don't want it to twist right out the frame :niceone:

I like good advice

[ducatilover]

Motor is all in place, will get the front mounts machined up then take nice accurate measurements of the rear
I haz better idea for rear mount, so that's all happy.

I have to split teh cases by the looks of things, the kick start hole is blanked off and there's a box of kick start parts :facepalm: fucked if I'm roll starting it every time

Turns out the early DR650 is very similar internally, so I've got a pre-96 650 manual to use as reference

So, jobs to do,
Mounts.
Wiring
Zorst
Kick start
Hone bore
Skids
:2thumbsup

Oh, and work out the gearing and re-gear it to suit

[caseye]

So what? couple a daz"s maybe.
Pics all the way OK.
Looking good.

[ducatilover]

We'll have her sorted in a jiffy :lol:
No drinking = moar money for silly shit
I could probably buy another bike if I quit suckin' them fags too

[Fast Eddie]

I could probably buy another bike if I quit suckin' them fags too

that usually makes me money down here

[ducatilover]

that usually makes me money down here
Yeah, but you own a Honda

[tigertim20]

looking good man, NZ's only 600 Ginny 250?

[ducatilover]

looking good man, NZ's only 600 Ginny 250?
Chur, I hope it's the only one. Not many people are retarded enough to put bigger motors in such a shit frame.



It looks like I have to split the cases to install the kick start :weep: so I'll have to get inventive to get the clutch basket out

[Fast Eddie]

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mm I like that..

dunno why more people don't buy gn250s and modify them. they are so cheap and parts are plentiful. perfect bike to chop up and make cool. Lots of bobber and chopper builds too.

the flat tracker be my fav so far that I have seen. coupled with a bigger motor would actually be a cool wee bike.

[MystikEagle]

Just read this whole thread and I must say that I think you may have changed my opinion of the GN250. Yours is looking pretty cool with the mods you've done to it! My dad is a mechanic (so I am a little mechanically minded also) so I think I may just keep my eyes peeled for something that needs some TLC, maybe even throw a new engine in or an expansion kit. At least I know who to ask if I need any pointers :P

[ducatilover]

dunno why more people don't buy gn250s and modify them. they are so cheap and parts are plentiful. perfect bike to chop up and make cool. Lots of bobber and chopper builds too.

the flat tracker be my fav so far that I have seen. coupled with a bigger motor would actually be a cool wee bike.
Damn that's pretty sweet!

Just read this whole thread and I must say that I think you may have changed my opinion of the GN250. Yours is looking pretty cool with the mods you've done to it! My dad is a mechanic (so I am a little mechanically minded also) so I think I may just keep my eyes peeled for something that needs some TLC, maybe even throw a new engine in or an expansion kit. At least I know who to ask if I need any pointers :P
:2thumbsup Do it, it's very fun. You can get a 300cc kit cheap enough (I might even sell mine)
I'm more than happy to help out


Whipped the clutch out to get the blanking plate out of the kick start hole, everything inside this looks fresh, the bearings on the RHS look new, so that's a good start.

Made a clutch hub holder from a spare pressure plate, four bolts just like the 'zuki tool, nice bar on the end and even distribution of force, quite a neat little tool.
Pushed the ears on the washer back.
Out with the 1/2 inch kit.
Smash goes the clutch hub :wacko: well...fuck me, somebody didn't do the bolt to 32nm!

All four bits of alloy had smashed (where the spring bolts go in to)

So I decided, seeing as I have a complete spare clutch (Doug loves spares) I'd have to drill out outer edge of the hub.
Slammed a few bolts in, made a plate for that, another lever, and it came undone.


That was some highly unexpected thudfuckery :lol: was a really neat tool too, much better than the ones I have used on the GN motors and certainly a bit flasher than that pic Asher had with the dirty big crescent lol

Anyhoo, it's a matter of sorting out what goes where once I split the cases and then nip it back together. I have a German DR600 manual, an early DR650SE manual and the DR250 kick start system is fairly similar looking, so plenty of reference.
Going to do Drew's trick to grind down some long nose pliers for a set of cir-clip pliers.

[Fast Eddie]

haha, so what did you break DL? the tool you made or some bits in the engine?

once i'v finished the aprilia (2023 at this rate) mrs wants to chop up her gn like a bobber or something different so it doesn't look like a gn anymore! so next project is ready n waiting haha.

ill take that 300 kit if u decide to let it go. mates rates n all since we are so tight :rolleyes:

[ducatilover]

haha, so what did you break DL? the tool you made or some bits in the engine?

once i'v finished the aprilia (2023 at this rate) mrs wants to chop up her gn like a bobber or something different so it doesn't look like a gn anymore! so next project is ready n waiting haha.

ill take that 300 kit if u decide to let it go. mates rates n all since we are so tight :rolleyes:
Bits in the engine :2thumbsup the tool's fookin mint, even tried it on one of the GN motors to see if it was the tool's fault, nup. That bolt was just way too fuckin' tight.
The four shafty bits for the clutch spring bolts all sheared off :lol:
Have to get myself a flywheel puller, can't seem to make anything that works, but they're cheeeeeeeeap enough for me. (no, I'm not using my hammer)

Yeah man, I don't trust it though, I think the piston is on the piss (lol) so I was thinking of taking it to 79mm instead of 78 and running a DR350 piston.
I'll hold on to it for now though, might have to stick it in some tiny little AC50 type thing.

[banditrider]

You're thinking too small:

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Apparently it's 1,000cc...

[ducatilover]

That looks ideal to me :D

No luck with teh flywheel pulling yet, so I'll leave it be for a wee while and potter around doing other shit.

To polish the engine covers, or paint them? Can't decide really
Got some cap headed screws with lock wire holes drilled for the neutral sender, which is situated behind the clutch and prone to dropping itself in to a very fast spinning clutch basket... so no need to worry about that!
Polished the oil filter cover, because I got bored.
Then spent an hour or two re-arranging shit and putting DR250 and unneeded GN bits in boxes :2thumbsup moar work space!


I think I'll raise the motor in the frame when I've done the flywheel. It looks a bit odd sitting a little low, I can raise it about an inch, which will bring the output shaft up closer to the swing arm, so I may get away without a chain roller

[MystikEagle]

To polish the engine covers, or paint them? Can't decide really

I say polish :)
More shiny parts that way :yes:

[ducatilover]

I do like polished parts :D :drool:
In case nobody noticed...

[MystikEagle]

Just goes to show, there is a little magpie in all of us :)

[ducatilover]

Just goes to show, there is a little magpie in all of us :)
That really could be taken the wrong way
;)

[MystikEagle]

Ah, someone else with their mind in the gutter, no wonder I keep coming back to this site... ;)

[nathanwhite]

Now that you have a ridiculously over sized engine, howabout ridiculously oversized brakes?

I happen to have a ZZR600's caliper and mastercylinder/lever lying around doing nothing in particular......

[ducatilover]

Ah, someone else with their mind in the gutter, no wonder I keep coming back to this site... ;)
You'll fit in well (giggity)

Now that you have a ridiculously over sized engine, howabout ridiculously oversized brakes?

I happen to have a ZZR600's caliper and mastercylinder/lever lying around doing nothing in particular......
Some real good cunt must have given you them :bleh:
I did some searching a while a go and (from memory) I can use a GS550 RHS fork leg and caliper as the GN hub is the same and set up for twin disks, which would keep with the older look :2thumbsup But I could do that and run the ZZR brakes on it I suppose, would work very well on a 130kg bike

[nathanwhite]

You'll fit in well (giggity)

Some real good cunt must have given you them :bleh:
I did some searching a while a go and (from memory) I can use a GS550 RHS fork leg and caliper as the GN hub is the same and set up for twin disks, which would keep with the older look :2thumbsup But I could do that and run the ZZR brakes on it I suppose, would work very well on a 130kg bike

I'll send em down then eh?

[ducatilover]

I'll send em down then eh?
Only if you're not going to use them. I'm not too sure they'll look good on the GN589? Bit too modern

[Drew]

Only if you're not going to use them. I'm not too sure they'll look good on the GN589? Bit too modern

You are more than doubling the power. You are adding ten kilos at least. And you are saying you want older brakes, than the ancient but better ones on offer?

Keen bro.

[ducatilover]

You are more than doubling the power. You are adding ten kilos at least. And you are saying you want older brakes, than the ancient but better ones on offer?

Keen bro.
10kg? I don't think so, the lifting-sphincter-meter doesn't reckon there's 10kg in it
And 10kg with a sub-60kg rider = meh.
I've had worse brakes on faster bikes (okay, no I haven't, but it sounded impressive to type)
And have you seen how much of a nana I usually am?
And I don't care :2thumbsup


That 'bout covers it?



If I crash because I haven't got enough brakes, which I don't, this post might be edited


I do however think a set of twin disks will be adequate and it's not like the shit tyres are up to much more braking anyway

[ducatilover]

So basically, if I die, you can all have a proper giggle that Doug died on a GN with less than half the power of his ZX6

[bogan]

Good brakes and good engine might make an accordion style frame if you try and do skids!

[Fast Eddie]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=522470522

by this and hot it up DL

[ducatilover]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=522470522

by this and hot it up DL:drool::drool::drool: ZOMG!!!!!!!!


Good brakes and good engine might make an accordion style frame if you try and do skids!
lol Either that or it'll snap all the spokes :D

I'll try hunt down the front end off one of these '78 GS550http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1978/1978_GS550__450.jpg Got to keep it period looking

To my "knowledge" it runs the same LHS fork lower and the RHS is the same with the exception of the caliper mount.
The hub should be the same, Geoff has accommodation for a second disk there.


Kind of want that tail too... I love that style rear, might look at doing something like that too.
Thoughts?

[Conquiztador]

The Japanese GN's came with spoked wheels. When the manufacturing moved to China the wheels became the crappy pressed steel version. There is a big quality difference between the earlier Japanese and the later Chinese version.

[Oblivion]

So basically, if I die, you can all have a proper giggle that Doug died on a GN with less than half the power of his ZX6

Here lies Doug. Went out just like his engine. With a bang and seizures.

[ducatilover]

The Japanese GN's came with spoked wheels. When the manufacturing moved to China the wheels became the crappy pressed steel version. There is a big quality difference between the earlier Japanese and the later Chinese version.
100% Jap assembled this one :2thumbsup The wire wheels look much better IMO, and as I've said, was the main resoan I got this one (fuckin' wanker that I am)

Here lies Doug. Went out just like his engine. With a bang and seizures.
That's be a neat message to have :D


Did a little bit of polishing today, clutch cover should be done tomorrow, so will have some nice pictures for the magpies.
It's going to be a tasty looking motor

[MystikEagle]

Did a little bit of polishing today, clutch cover should be done tomorrow, so will have some nice pictures for the magpies.
It's going to be a tasty looking motor

Said magpie awaiting said photos :whistle:

[ducatilover]

Pretty poo pictures, really crap light today :(
But, this cover is nearly done
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[Drew]

You have a very serious problem!

Also, don't ya think you should have drilled the kick start hole and got that sorted before you made it all purdy?

[MystikEagle]

Ooooo... Shiny...
Wil be :drool: when youv'e finished...

[ducatilover]

You have a very serious problem!

Also, don't ya think you should have drilled the kick start hole and got that sorted before you made it all purdy? :facepalm:
errr... I kind of noticed a few hours in to it
I've just decided to cross my fingers and hope the plug will press out.:lol:


Ooooo... Shiny...
Wil be :drool: when youv'e finished...
Thank you, it's not often a females complements a GN...

[bogan]

Myth confirmed, you can polish a turd :bleh:

[Drew]

:facepalm:
errr... I kind of noticed a few hours in to it
I've just decided to cross my fingers and hope the plug will press out.:lol:


Thank you, it's not often a females complements a GN...Cambridge girls are...shall we say..different.:Pokey:

[ducatilover]

Myth confirmed, you can polish a turd :bleh:
:headbang: Do I get a choccy fish???? (My turd has a better idiot to money ratio than all yours)

Cambridge girls are...shall we say..different.:Pokey:
I'm a little naive when it comes to the northen ones :bleh:

[MystikEagle]

Cambridge girls are...shall we say..different.:Pokey:

Hey!!! I am far from being a Cambridge girl! If anything, I'm a southerner... (Not really sure if that's any better :scratch:) I like to move around alot so no hometown per say...

[Drew]

Hey!!! I am far from being a Cambridge girl! By association...

[ducatilover]

Not entirely sure if that's better, but I am nobody to judge, I moved form some shit hole called Wainuiomata, to Eketahuna, and have a GN600 :lol: and a Kawasaki.

Ewwwwwww

[MystikEagle]

:not: :nya:

[Drew]

Not entirely sure if that's better, but I am nobody to judge, I moved form some shit hole called Wainuiomata, to Eketahuna, and have a GN600 :lol: and a Kawasaki.

EwwwwwwwWainui is awesome!

We moved up here from Dunedin.

[MystikEagle]

Sorry, couldn't help myself :drinknsin

[Geeen]

I could probably buy another bike if I quit suckin' them fags too

That sounds like a very deliberate double entendre .......

Hhmmm, who will bite (DL says he doesn't):lol::lol:

[Drew]

That sounds like a very deliberate double entendre .......

Hhmmm, who will bite (DL says he doesn't):lol::lol:We don't want to destroy the dream, by making him deny it.

[ducatilover]

Wainui is awesome!

We moved up here from Dunedin. Wainui is shit!


:not: :nya: :girlfight:


That sounds like a very deliberate double entendre .......

Hhmmm, who will bite (DL says he doesn't):lol::lol:
I've probably had more fags in my mouth than Elton John

:wacko:

[Drew]

Wainui is shit!

Yeah, I gotta be a little bit nice about it though, the missus was raised in the place.

[ducatilover]

Yeah, I gotta be a little bit nice about it though, the missus was raised in the place.
Your missus was raised in the same place as me...

My sympathies
:lol:
I do like the coast road, an the forest park. Some excellent mountain biking there

[MystikEagle]

Your missus was raised in the same place as me...

My sympathies
:lol:
I do like the coast road, an the forest park. Some excellent mountain biking there

Is your mountain bike as well polished as your road bikes...?

[Drew]

Is your mountain bike as well polished as your road bikes...?He's polished the bloody end off...Nevermind.

[ducatilover]

Don't have one anymore.
Smashed the hub and crank bearings too many times doing sweet jumps (crashes involved)

[MystikEagle]

He's polished the bloody end off...Nevermind.

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme

[ducatilover]

He's polished the bloody end off...Nevermind.
Years ago, that's why I'm such a frustrated cunt these days :lol:

[ducatilover]

Haven't grabbed a flywheel puller yet, been busy (spent all my Geoff/ZX6 money on one of my bro's bachelor party too, that didn't help)

But.
I've hoisted the motor back in to see if I can raise it much, and boom, chain slips straight on to the sprocket. Original rear lower mounts will be removed and new ones welded in.
Thinking about welding a cross beam on the frame then running the top rear mount there.

So, new front and top mounts will be easy peasy to whip up, rear lowers will be a walk in the park, just need to figure the tidiest way to do the top rear.


And I decided it's time to wire it up
The loom fell out, next to my baccy pouch of course.
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I'm thinking of ditching the controls on the bars too, run a plate on the bar clamps with some toggle switchy things. Maybe? It'd get rid of the gay as fuck wires coming from the bars anyway...

[MystikEagle]

I was wondering how you were getting on with your project...

You could almost wire up some switches etc on a panel with your idiot lights, almost kinda like a dash board... Idk, just a random idea...

[ducatilover]

I was wondering how you were getting on with your project...

You could almost wire up some switches etc on a panel with your idiot lights, almost kinda like a dash board... Idk, just a random idea...
That's kind of what I was meaning, I would like to find some toggle switches with LEDs on the tips, I reckon they'd look neat.
I have that idea and also a dash thing that still uses the current set up


Here's some half magpie pics. 272216272218272220
That's the hoary front mount I made with the original engine position, I think I'll get them made out of 6 or 8mm plate
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You can see the original bar behind/brace the motor. Basically, pop that out and weld in something nice and thick (giggity) and weld the mounts to that, easy!


But, it's all in there, a few mm clearance will be between the head and front of the frame, a few mm between the valve cover and tank and a few between the RHS cover and the swing arm. Nothing's going to go crunch and the sprocket should be in alignment when it's all nipped up too, but I can just space the rear out a bit if need be

Might even take it to the local engineers to do the rear mounts, I can borrow a mig, but my welding isn't pretty enough

Winning so far!

[bogan]

Looks pretty good dude! I'm liking the idea of toggle switches too, will that include the indicators though?

[ducatilover]

Looks pretty good dude! I'm liking the idea of toggle switches too, will that include the indicators though?
Chur :D I'll send you a message on bookface about my current idea for the rear mount

I'm not entirely sure if it should include the indicators, I was thinking of perhaps a smaller swith block for them on the LHS with a horn button, and just have the high/low and kill on the dash-thingymabob.

Zorst is going to be easy too, have got the headers dummied up, will grab some more blades for the saws that hack and chop some pipe up.
Will be scrambler, on the LHS

[MystikEagle]

It's looking pretty awesome mate!!!

[Drew]

It's looking pretty awesome mate!!!Are you fuckin him or something? It's ugly. It can only get uglier. If he does it right, it'll be so ugly that children cry when they see it.

That is all, carry on.

[ducatilover]

It's looking pretty awesome mate!!!
Thanks :headbang:


Will get pics of where the headers are now, but it's nothing cool. Pics are fun though
Got the carb in, it's either leave it on the motor or put it on with the rubber on it, too tight to do it the normal way...

It weighs just under 130kg as it is, with 12L of petrol.
That's without zorst (that's under 3kg)
Without battery, it's pretty light and it'll have an A123 cell pack eventually
Minus 2.3L of oil and an oil cooler
I'm going to do my best to keep it under 140kg full wet.

I think that's fucking light for a steel framed 600cc bike...

[MystikEagle]

Awesome! It is going to be one sexy GN! Probably almost unrecognisable once your finished with it :yes:

[ducatilover]

Top and front mount dimensions sorted after some moar playing around.
272252 Like my excellent drawing? Not perfect, the kids have fucked off with my compass somewhere so I haven't got anything to scribe an arc with and I'm not 'puter savvy enough to make one on paint ;)
CDI/Coil ready to be bolted on and will plug in, just have to run a 12v source to the CDI :2thumbsup
Haven't got a pic of the start of the headers yet, derp.

Smacked the blanking plug out of the kick start hole and pulled the old seal, might as well chuck a tasty new one in.

These run a decomp cable to each side of the head, one manually operated and one run off the kick start. I'm not going to run one off the kick start, might not even run one at all, will see how hard it is for me to start

Hopefully flywheel puller next week and a POR15 kit for the ZX6 tank

[ducatilover]

Awesome! It is going to be one sexy GN! Probably almost unrecognisable once your finished with it :yes:

I sure bloody hope so ;)

[Drew]

I sure bloody hope so ;)If it's not ugly, you have failed!!!

Re the mounts, given your magpie instincts, how about you get them made from stainless and get a good shine going?

10mm Ally plate would be nicer to look at, but they're a bit small to look anything but stupid as fuck.

[ducatilover]

If it's not ugly, you have failed!!!

Re the mounts, given your magpie instincts, how about you get them made from stainless and get a good shine going?

10mm Ally plate would be nicer to look at, but they're a bit small to look anything but stupid as fuck.
They'll be polished alloy plate :2thumbsup of course

I'm kind of making a new loom, I've got a teeny tiny bit carried away

[Drew]

They'll be polished alloy plate :2thumbsup of course

I'm kind of making a new loom, I've got a teeny tiny bit carried awayYou? Never!

[ducatilover]

You? Never!
I know right? So unusual.

I started removing shit from the loom. The pulled it completely apart, there's so much unneeded shit in it!
So that'll save 80 grams or so :facepalm:
Thankfully wiring a DR600 is easy, my diagram is in German, which I haven't studied for years, but it all makes sense

[ducatilover]

Loom's around half done already.

Looking at gearing now.
If I run what it has, 16/41 it will be geared to max at 160.3 and be doing 4000rpm at 100. Too short for my liking.
If I go 17/39 it'll have a theoretical max of 180 and be doing 3630 at 100. A bit more relaxed.
I'd say it'll have the grunt to push even longer gearing, but I only want it to be doing reasonable revs at 100. The thought of running a GN up over the ton isn't to inviting sounding... :crazy:

So I'll buy some new sprockets :D I have to give it a go on that short gearing though... fuck it'll be silly.
Better p/w than an MC22/ZXR etc, which shall make for some fun times

[Drew]

This seems pretty fuckin reasonable to me.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/wheels/auction-526624359.htm

[ducatilover]

If I had the cash I'd buy that, really good price :2thumbsup

Got up this morning, started playing with the loom, putting it on the bike etc. It's nearly there, just need to do the 12v power wires to everything and it's ready for switches.

It's fucking simple to re-loom something like this, only a full day of work, give or take a few hours. Under the seat is only CDI and indicator relay now, I like simple.
Once I've made the dash thingy for the switches I'll re-wrap the loom.

I actually really enjoyed doing this loom, might re-do the Kawasaki too, it has far too much in terms of wiring

There's also a fair bit of wire left from the old shithouse Suzuki effort, which had far too much shit in it

Before I got distracted, I got fuck all done. Had to be a nice guy and help a mate check over a few BMW M3s he's considering buying, and I'm needed for that as I'm the biggest M3 nut ever.
So I got to ride in two very, very tasty M3s instead of listening to Pink Floyd and making ghey bikes

[Drew]

Before I got distracted, I got fuck all done. Had to be a nice guy and help a mate check over a few BMW M3s he's considering buying, and I'm needed for that as I'm the biggest M3 nut ever.
So I got to ride in two very, very tasty M3s instead of listening to Pink Floyd and making ghey bikesWhat model M3? A mate has an E36 325, with a twin turbo Supra motor to motivate it. Seriously fucking fast car.

[ducatilover]

What model M3? A mate has an E36 325, with a twin turbo Supra motor to motivate it. Seriously fucking fast car.
E30 and an E36 3.0 set up for Tarmac rally :2thumbsup
I love the idea of a 2JZ in an E36, I was thinking of dumping a 1JZ in to my last E36 coupe I had... Might have to do it. You can buy mount kits and wiring kits from a company in Japland too.
But, for the money I'd rather buy an E36 M3. We went to view them in a Msport optioned E36 328i, and it felt like an absolute sack of poo afterwards. :wacko: There's just something about the E36 M3 that gets me going, apart from the noise :cool:

[Drew]

My bad, E30 with a Supra donk. He upgraded the brakes and rear end to E36 or later.

[ducatilover]

My bad, E30 with a Supra donk. He upgraded the brakes and rear end to E36 or later.
That'd be a loose bitch :D and a tight fit too

[Drew]

That'd be a loose bitch :D and a tight fit tooNa, 325 runs a six anyway, and lot bigger tranz tunnel.

Only thing that didn't fit was the intercooler, but it's hard to fit 300mm by 1000mm by 100mm behind a grill in any car I guess, so it's on display right out front.

[ducatilover]

Na, 325 runs a six anyway, and lot bigger tranz tunnel.

Only thing that didn't fit was the intercooler, but it's hard to fit 300mm by 1000mm by 100mm behind a grill in any car I guess, so it's on display right out front.
The 4 and 6 have the same trans tunnel as a getrag 260/265 fits in any of them.
Could it still fit the fan between the motor and rad, or is it mounted in front? I'd love to see that.

I've seen a few V8 conversions and there are a few M70 V12 conversions :D Fun little chassis the E30, the 36 is a far better car though

[Drew]

The 4 and 6 have the same trans tunnel as a getrag 260/265 fits in any of them.
Could it still fit the fan between the motor and rad, or is it mounted in front? I'd love to see that.

I've seen a few V8 conversions and there are a few M70 V12 conversions :D Fun little chassis the E30, the 36 is a far better car though

I'm just working on what he told me, and he's pretty switched on.

Got electric fans on the motor side of the rad I think, but it's been a while since I saw it.

Whole car has been retro fitted with goodness, huge brakes, stupidly expensive suspension, and the earlier mentioned IRS.

It has fuck all E30 left, except the cool looks. The 36 is an ugly little fucker I reckon.

[ducatilover]

I'm just working on what he told me, and he's pretty switched on.

Got electric fans on the motor side of the rad I think, but it's been a while since I saw it.

Whole car has been retro fitted with goodness, huge brakes, stupidly expensive suspension, and the earlier mentioned IRS.

It has fuck all E30 left, except the cool looks. The 36 is an ugly little fucker I reckon.
They're not as sorted as the 36, but the 36 is rather beige looking and the interior will fall out lol
They're all IRS too, and being a 325i it would have had a standard disc rear end, which is always good for when you rip it out and sell it :D

I'd love to see it (or go fro a blat...that 2JZ is a sexual motor)

[Drew]

They're not as sorted as the 36, but the 36 is rather beige looking and the interior will fall out lol
They're all IRS too, and being a 325i it would have had a standard disc rear end, which is always good for when you rip it out and sell it :D

I'd love to see it (or go fro a blat...that 2JZ is a sexual motor)The thing is fuckin mental. Stock motor, except it's got three inch pipe right through, a couple pod filters, and the intercooler. 219kw at the treads.

[ducatilover]

Nice and responsive when left stock, that's a lot of power for an E30 :2thumbsup I have a mate with relatively minor mods on a 1JZ putting out 270+ at the treads in a Soarer, goes okay

[ducatilover]

Flywheel puller (lol, puller) should be here any day now :2thumbsup

Was a bit of a cheat and used oven cleaner to strip the paint on the LHS cover, makes polishing a lot easier as you don't have to sand through the paint.
I'm not making the covers too bling looking, everything must match the dents in the tank, I'm hoping to make a well used, but well cared for look (like any missus I've had)

Still not completely decided on the switch gear, I could run a switch block on the LHS, but everything I've seen so far is too ugly or modern, anybody got suggestions there?
To run a bunch of switches from the bar clamp, I'll need to have them raised fairly high (10-15mm) to clear the bars, and fuck that ugly shit.
I'll look at doing clip ons :drool: I loves me some clip ons

[Smarsh]

Hey man, diggin the thread, has been good to get some ideas for my GN. Got any new photos of the progress? I agree with the clip ons idea, cant go wrong.

[Drew]

He's out of town, and all barred up about cars now.

[ducatilover]

As Drew said. Out of town doing some stuff and attending a wedding.
I'll get the kick start spring and what-not ordered and re-assemble the engine and start making the rear mounts :Punk:

[ducatilover]

Got the bits ordered for the kick start, so I should be buttoning up the motor next week :niceone:

Have yet to find suitable switch gear and throttle blocks, but I have found some clip ons I may buy from eGay, just for lols.
That'll mean I'll need rearsets and new brake lever (need a custom kick and gear lever anyway, so why not eh?)

[ducatilover]

Bottom end on the beasty is all together :Punk: everything greased, cleaned and loctite from arsehole to bearkfast

Got a new tank, will throw pics up when I've finished stripping it. It's an old GS250 or 450 one, rather cafe looking.
Has a fair bit of bog and life experience in it :laugh: seeing as I never intended it to be a mint looking machine, I'll bare steel it and give it a reasonable, but well used patina



Yes, I said patina. Fuck you

[ducatilover]

Took the tank to bare steel, it's pretty fugly underneath, so it'll be getting two tone paint instead of a delicious polished tank :facepalm: forgot pre-strip (heh) pics. So have some bog pics
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image202_zps0f576b99.jpg http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image201_zpsad3e6f3b.jpg http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image200_zpscc753097.jpg

Have modded the seat and will make myself a nice seat cover soon

Will look at throwing a set of flat bars on it (notice I've put them the right way up)
I'll be adding an inch of foam on the top of the existing shit
I'll be keeping it comfy, so no clubman bars and race seats on this one...

Dogsnbikes has offered me an XR650 master, so I can use my Doherty throttle (similar to this, but polished) http://nortonraceparts.com/uploads/2/8/7/9/2879787/3914680.jpg?325 the original GN master gets in the way, and I want to use the throttle, coz it's cool :laugh:


Bottom end is complete and the kick starter seems to work. Just need to wait for a gasket kit and I'll put the top end on

[Glowerss]

It's sort of not a GN250 anymore is it? :laugh:

Love your work though!

[ducatilover]

:innocent: not really
Been thinking about ditching the leading axle forks, plus a few frame mods and braced swing arm... so, best GN ever = not a GN

[TheTengTheory]

What did you use to strip the tank to bare metal? I have frying issues with my tank because of the old acrylic paint when i sprayed the primer on.

[ducatilover]

Easy off oven cleaner on it for a few hours, washed it off and then a bit of scotchbrite.
Only really works on shit paint and anodising though. Otherwise, you can get paint stripper from a panel beating supplies place on Tremaine, I think they're near where mag and turbo were.

[Drew]

:innocent: not really
Been thinking about ditching the leading axle forks, plus a few frame mods and braced swing arm... so, best GN ever = not a GN

Be a good idea to replace the triple clamps at the same time.... Can you say 'trail'?

[ducatilover]

Be a good idea to replace the triple clamps at the same time.... Can you say 'trail'?
:laugh:
I'm almost tempted to let one of my sets of ZXR forks slide on to it. But RWU forks look period.
I think older GS zuks ran similar forks, but without the gay leading axle

Not really a priority currently, but a nicer set of forks withought eh gay axle will make it look nicer. And gaitors...

[Drew]

:laugh:
I'm almost tempted to let one of my sets of ZXR forks slide on to it. But RWU forks look period.
I think older GS zuks ran similar forks, but without the gay leading axle

Not really a priority currently, but a nicer set of forks withought eh gay axle will make it look nicer. And gaitors...Keh?

Period, or good. The two are mutually exclusive man.

[ducatilover]

Keh?

Period, or good. The two are mutually exclusive man.

Good period?

That sounds a bit fucked.
:facepalm:

I'm going to buy a new piston, this one has slight damage to the two lower ring lands, which is a bit dumb.
In other news, got the parts tumbler/vibratory finisher plugged in today and started the lazy/good way of polishing parts! :woohoo:

[ducatilover]

Does Geoff need USDs? :confused: I do have a spare set now...

Might cable tie them on...

[nathanwhite]

Does Geoff need USDs?



Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[ducatilover]

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

:Punk: maybe, just maybe if I go mental I'll pop some on it. ZXR400H are the right length :msn-wink:

[ducatilover]

Righto.
Buying the thread and heavy duty needles to sew up my new seat cover.
Going to be black, of course.
Not certain about a diamond tuck or pleated look yet though. Nor am I certain what colour the stitching and piping needs to be. Maybe grey piping and red stitching, for teh racey look

[unstuck]

Sewings for girls, and limp wristed types.:bleh:

[ducatilover]

My wrist has been broken a few times, it's a bit limp

My first practice attempt failed miserably. I'll do it another day :facepalm: got stuff to polish