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Kempz44
21st April 2012, 21:28
Alright so I have had my Honda NXR125 for about 6 months now and shes a beauty, the only problem is the power so I want to upgrade to a 250, and i have the resources and means to do it soon so i will :) could a person wiser than myself give me some advice on the best 250s? i am currently looking at buying a 1990 Honda CBR250rr from cyclespot,
cheers.
Fast Eddie
21st April 2012, 21:29
2 stroke.
TZR250 would be ideal for a fine chap such as yourself
Kempz44
21st April 2012, 21:31
you really are fast eddie, im not too keen on 4 strokes to be honest, i like the grunty 4's
ducatilover
21st April 2012, 21:33
you really are fast eddie, im not too keen on 4 strokes to be honest, i like the grunty 4's
Wait, whut?
So, what are you going to use the bike for?
What are you wanting from a bike?
Go, test ride EVERYTHING
Kempz44
21st April 2012, 21:47
I meant im not interested in 2 stroke and i want a 4 stoke haha, sorry. I just want a fast sexy looking 250cc, and atm im looking at a 1990 honda cbr250rr, but im completely open to any advice about 250s.
DrunkenMistake
21st April 2012, 21:49
I meant im not interested in 2 stroke and i want a 4 stoke haha, sorry. I just want a fast sexy looking 250cc, and atm im looking at a 1990 honda cbr250rr, but im completely open to any advice about 250s.
2 stroke = (Faster + sexier) x FUCKING AMAZING˛
ducatilover
21st April 2012, 21:50
Well, as far as four strokes go, the CBR250RR (mc22) is the best way to go anyway, so you're on the right track.
Fast Eddie
21st April 2012, 21:52
I meant im not interested in 2 stroke and i want a 4 stoke haha, sorry. I just want a fast sexy looking 250cc, and atm im looking at a 1990 honda cbr250rr, but im completely open to any advice about 250s.
hehe.. naw, try one. once u go, err 2 stroke u never go black back..
yea I had an 89 cbr250r, nice enough bike actually had plenty of fun on it didn't have any problems with it apart from fuel line blocks/bit of rust in tank n stuff. was a cheap one..
Fast Eddie
21st April 2012, 21:53
2 stroke = (Faster + sexier) x FUCKING AMAZING˛
f*cking solid point
Madness
21st April 2012, 22:24
hehe.. naw, try one. once u go, err 2 stroke u never go back....
Hang on, don't you own one that exploded slightly?
ducatilover
21st April 2012, 22:32
Hang on, don't you own one that exploded slightly?
Kind of a universal greeting to any 2t owner...
DrunkenMistake
21st April 2012, 22:33
Kind of a universal greeting to any 2t owner...
Yeah pretty standard haha.
Hitcher
21st April 2012, 22:50
I can't see why anybody would want to buy a 22-year-old motorcycle, irrespective of whether it's a two or four-stroke. Either way it will be an overpriced piece of shit.
ducatilover
21st April 2012, 22:54
I can't see why anybody would want to buy a 22-year-old motorcycle, irrespective of whether it's a two or four-stroke. Either way it will be an overpriced piece of shit.
Because they can.
I have a 24 year old 250, am I an idiot?
bogan
21st April 2012, 22:55
Hang on, don't you own one that exploded slightly?
So he's just a beginner 2T owner then?
I can't see why anybody would want to buy a 22-year-old motorcycle, irrespective of whether it's a two or four-stroke. Either way it will be an overpriced piece of shit.
Cos the 22yr old will dominate the newer models, and it's cheaper. Hang on, which is the overprice piece of shit again?
Waipukbiker
21st April 2012, 23:05
32 year old 250, starts 1st kick every time and runs sweet as.
Hitcher
22nd April 2012, 10:37
am I an idiot?
I need more information then that to make a full diagnosis.
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 11:04
Hang on, don't you own one that exploded slightly?
nah it didnt explode anyway, was still running..
sure there was metal missing from the pistons etc.. minor details. Tis but a scratch
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 11:05
I can't see why anybody would want to buy a 22-year-old motorcycle, irrespective of whether it's a two or four-stroke. Either way it will be an overpriced piece of shit.
'cause some people have style and flare my friend, and good taste - and wouldn't be seen dead on something as plain, boring and uninspiring as a GSX..
bogan
22nd April 2012, 11:34
I need more information then that to make a full diagnosis.
Piss weak trolling, and a grammar error. Who are you and what have you done with Hitcher?
spanner spinner
22nd April 2012, 15:19
I can't see why anybody would want to buy a 22-year-old motorcycle, irrespective of whether it's a two or four-stroke. Either way it will be an overpriced piece of shit.
what he said, I have the misfourtune of having to work on these when they finally die which most of them seem to be doing at the moment. They are difficult to get parts for expensive to repair and none of they will have been properly mantained. I have seen lots of them with burnt exhaust valves as the valve clearance is never done because "it costs to much and the bike seems to be going ok". When the exhaust valve finally gives up they cost so much to fix it's not worth fixing. This applies to all the 4 cylinder 4 stroke 250's not just the cbr's. What is wrong with your current bike is it breaking down does it cost to much to run if not why do you want to buy something that will. save your money for a better 600 when you get your full licence, do some rider training and don't take ten years to get your full licence.
blackdog
22nd April 2012, 15:24
I need more information then that to make a full diagnosis.
Than that?
blackdog
22nd April 2012, 15:26
Piss weak trolling, and a grammar error. Who are you and what have you done with Hitcher?
You beat me. Nice catch bogan.
Although I put it down to a simple spelling mistake? Nah, musta been a typo.
Gadgit12a
22nd April 2012, 17:39
What is wrong with your current bike is it breaking down does it cost to much to run if not why do you want to buy something that will. save your money for a
better 600 when you get your full licence, do some rider training and don't take ten years to get your full licence.
This is a very good point!
You can have great fun on a 250 but when you break it down you are going to pay $4 -5 K for a 20yr old bike that OK it may go fast but really it is a means to an end to get what your real goal should be completed. (GET YOUR FULL LICENSE SO YOU CAN RIDE A REAL BIKE)
My First bike was a Honda NS205R (The predecessors' to the NSR) it was a lethal bike that had a power band in the wrong place for someone that was learning. I then Brought a 1990 Kawasaki ZX250R. This was a great bike ran well and was as quick as the CB250RR with a full size rear tyre I could put that thing so close to the ground it was great however really when it comes down to it nothing will give you anything close to the power of a bigger bike so you are best just to sit back and tick the boxes as quick as you can and save your money for something worth spending it on. Any old bike is going to cost you the buy price plus more for upkeep.
matdaymon
22nd April 2012, 17:55
I think the reason he wants a 250cc is he is completely bored with the power of his current sub 150cc bike.
I'm with the people wondering why you'd want a 22+yo bike that clearly everyone buys because they are fast 250's, rape the shit out of them for the period of their L and R period then flick it off to the next guy without performing decent maintenance on them.
Good luck finding a CBR250RR with a service history that has not been given assholes it's whole life.
Look around and find a bike that you like, find comfortable and suits your needs. Best/only advice to give
Gadgit12a
22nd April 2012, 18:08
Oh and When they say low K's if you look at the odometer it will only have XXXXX.X so when you break this down you really do not know how many k's it has done. if it is 22yrs old and say 22,000k's that is prob more likely to be 122,000ks but that is the reality.
As above buy it thrash it and sell it its the next persons problem just don't cry too much (i say too much as it still hurts when you cant ride) if it needs expensive work when you own it.
I loved the ZXR250 it was an awesome bike and quick enough to teach you a few lessons. Got mine stock standard to 192km/h on one of the back roads so it kept up with the bigger bikes
Madness
22nd April 2012, 18:18
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-466964668.htm
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 18:40
I need more information then that to make a full diagnosis.
You flatter me.
I am an idiot.
So, in this thread we are told, all old bikes are raped, fucked and shit, newer bikes are not raped, fucked or shit.
I'll buy the older bikes just to keep you poofters moaning about something.
SMOKEU
22nd April 2012, 18:48
Instead of buying a 250, wait a few months until you can legally ride a bigger bike.
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 18:55
big bikes are over rated on the public roads,
I have way more fun with my 250, and its in the shed in pieces! lol
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 18:55
big bikes are over rated on the public roads,
I have way more fun with my 250, and its in the shed in pieces! lol
Shhh don't say it's broken, you'll give the new bike people more ammo!
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 18:58
which is what I want, if those pussies don't buy them, then there is more for me to buy and play with :D
in a nation of 2012 Honda Civic drivers someone has to drive the '66 Cobra
SMOKEU
22nd April 2012, 19:00
big bikes are over rated on the public roads,
I have way more fun with my 250, and its in the shed in pieces! lol
Not many 250cc bikes actually handle that well because most of them have cheap suspension, with the exception of some of the 2 stroke race replicas. I have a hell of a lot more fun on my GSXR600 than I did on my CBR250, and not just because of the power, but because the gixxer has decent suspension and the difference in handling is like night and day.
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 19:01
which is what I want, if those pussies don't buy them, then there is more for me to buy and play with :D
in a nation of 2012 Honda Civic drivers someone has to drive the '66 Cobra
Touche!
All older bikes are junk, every single learner ridden bike is rooted and nobody has ever done any work to them, ever, stay away. My VT250 only managed 150,000km. How pathetic, I bet a Hyosung or EX250 will do triple that and pay off the extra $2-3000 you would spend buying them.
Yeah, old bikes suck dick.
GrayWolf
22nd April 2012, 19:07
which is what I want, if those pussies don't buy them, then there is more for me to buy and play with :D
in a nation of 2012 Honda Civic drivers someone has to drive the '66 Cobra
yeh except the 66 AC will have been lovingly maintained even if driven hard occasionally... it'll also be cosseted in the garage...
not bought and sold by a plethora of spotty faced, unable to afford, or cant be bothered to maintain it loonies.
To the OP... bite the bullet a few months,, then go for something learner friendly like a GS or EN500..... and they'll see you into a reasonable period as a full licence holder
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 19:10
Not many 250cc bikes actually handle that well because most of them have cheap suspension, with the exception of some of the 2 stroke race replicas. I have a hell of a lot more fun on my GSXR600 than I did on my CBR250, and not just because of the power, but because the gixxer has decent suspension and the difference in handling is like night and day.
Not to forget the SRAD will have much better tyres and a wider rear wheel, makes such a difference eh?
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 19:10
Not many 250cc bikes actually handle that well because most of them have cheap suspension, with the exception of some of the 2 stroke race replicas. I have a hell of a lot more fun on my GSXR600 than I did on my CBR250, and not just because of the power, but because the gixxer has decent suspension and the difference in handling is like night and day.
the difference in weight is like night n day lol..
suspensions fine for the road, maybe yours was slogged out. I had a few. they should get you round the port hills pretty bloody quick and alot easier than muscling proper big bikes 900-1000. i like my 600s but still.. the weight kills it for me when it comes down to the really twisty stuff.
Sable
22nd April 2012, 19:12
I don't like the idea of 250cc inline 4 4 strokes. When they go bung you've got 16 tiny little valves, 4 tiny little pistons, and a tiny little 4 cylinder crankshaft. They're 20 horsepower down and 40kg up on the 2 strokes. If a 2 stroke poos itself it's a rebore and a pair of pistons. And parts are eeeverywhere. If you're on an NXR125 and want something faster, may I suggest the FXR150's 2 stroke brother the RG150? Fucking mean little bikes. Reliable, plentiful, easy to work on and just as fast as a CBR250.
057rxz
22nd April 2012, 19:13
I meant im not interested in 2 stroke and i want a 4 stoke haha, sorry. I just want a fast sexy looking 250cc, and atm im looking at a 1990 honda cbr250rr, but im completely open to any advice about 250s.
well ur completly off track for starters a cbr250rr is just a sewing machine that makes too much noise but gets no where. go get urself a real 250. RS250 or RGV250
SMOKEU
22nd April 2012, 19:22
the difference in weight is like night n day lol..
suspensions fine for the road, maybe yours was slogged out. I had a few. they should get you round the port hills pretty bloody quick and alot easier than muscling proper big bikes 900-1000. i like my 600s but still.. the weight kills it for me when it comes down to the really twisty stuff.
The 600 feels a lot heavier than the 250 when I have to push it (which is quite often), but the 600 is an easier bike to ride and doesn't feel any heavier on a tight, twisty road because it's newer and better designed. Rooted 24 year old suspension vs Ohlins. The better suspension easily offsets the extra 30kg of weight.
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 19:27
The 600 feels a lot heavier than the 250 when I have to push it (which is quite often), but the 600 is an easier bike to ride and doesn't feel any heavier on a tight, twisty road because it's newer and better designed. Rooted 24 year old suspension vs Ohlins. The better suspension easily offsets the extra 30kg of weight.
they dont come with ohlins standard for starters..
and im only stating my view point bro. no need to confuse it with fact.
a small light bike for a trash is more enjoyable then muscling my current 900 around. I had a 600 single last year as 2nd bike and I had a fuckn laugh on that.. don't think it made more than 50hp if that lol
oh the single was from 82 or some year before I was born anyway. plenty of fun on the road
nzspokes
22nd April 2012, 19:37
Touche!
All older bikes are junk, every single learner ridden bike is rooted and nobody has ever done any work to them, ever, stay away. My VT250 only managed 150,000km. How pathetic, I bet a Hyosung or EX250 will do triple that and pay off the extra $2-3000 you would spend buying them.
Yeah, old bikes suck dick.
Yeah my 30 year old Honda 250 single that I got not running and now owes me $1000 only got me 15000ks in 8 months, owns most 250s upto 100ks. And is sold for what it owes me. :scooter:
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 19:39
All the feedback is useful, cheers everyone for posting - I wont be able to get a 600 because insurance will be over a grand. Also the cbr250rr i have in mind is from cyclespot. What do you guys think about Hyosung GTR250s?
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 19:42
evolution of a monster is what I think of the GT250R
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 19:42
Yeah my 30 year old Honda 250 single that I got not running and now owes me $1000 only got me 15000ks in 8 months, owns most 250s upto 100ks. And is sold for what it owes me. :scooter: My heap of poo runs and owes me $665 (I don't count what the real bike owes me...) and I doubt it'll owe me over a grand with a wof included :niceone: and it clatters and wobbles, it's bloody hilarious to ride.
All the feedback is useful, cheers everyone for posting - I wont be able to get a 600 because insurance will be over a grand. Also the cbr250rr i have in mind is from cyclespot. What do you guys think about Hyosung GTR250s?
Nothing special, just a plain commuter bike and a bit heavy.
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 19:45
My heap of poo runs..
speaking of GN's
have you tried to wheelie yours (jokes aside) sit at the back of the bench and give the clutch a drop its hilarious..
the mrs got my name on her insurance so I figure its safe to risk a crash for the sake of a hilarious mono.. so far havent been able to keep it up
.. and having problems with getting a decent wheelie going too.. but i recon it will come up proper with a bit of commitment
Grantman_
22nd April 2012, 19:48
The cbr250rr is an excellent bike. Was my first bike and I've still got it. Find a set of really tight twisties and you can really show the bigger bikes the way. This bike with its standard suspension and in overall moderate condition with pilotpower rubber stays glued to the road like nothing else.
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 19:51
The cbr250rr is an excellent bike. Was my first bike and I've still got it. Find a set of really tight twisties and you can really show the bigger bikes the way. This bike with its standard suspension and in overall moderate condition with pilotpower rubber stays glued to the road like nothing else.
fuckn aye :niceone:
Oblivion
22nd April 2012, 19:53
More appropriately, the question should be "Why don't I want a two stroke."
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 20:01
but since the cbr250 im looking at is from cyclespot it should be more sound than if not? and its been traded in and out of the shop for ages so im guessing its fairly reliable?
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 20:03
speaking of GN's
have you tried to wheelie yours (jokes aside) sit at the back of the bench and give the clutch a drop its hilarious..
the mrs got my name on her insurance so I figure its safe to risk a crash for the sake of a hilarious mono.. so far havent been able to keep it up
.. and having problems with getting a decent wheelie going too.. but i recon it will come up proper with a bit of commitment
It's my second GN, I used to have the front up in 2nd on the '04 one I had. Haven't bothered with this one lol
Just bounce the bastard while clutching up :devil2:
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 20:04
More appropriately, the question should be "Why don't I want a two stroke."
haha :niceone:
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 20:04
Just bounce the bastard while clutching up :devil2:
ahaa noted
Grantman_
22nd April 2012, 20:05
but since the cbr250 im looking at is from cyclespot it should be more sound than if not? and its been traded in and out of the shop for ages so im guessing its fairly reliable?
The cbr250's are known for a solid motor. How many k's is that bike reading out of curiosity?
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 20:07
but since the cbr250 im looking at is from cyclespot it should be more sound than if not? and its been traded in and out of the shop for ages so im guessing its fairly reliable?
who knows bro, if its a trade in etc.. who knows. I bet it will last your period of ownership. They had cam driven gears and pretty reliable wee motors. maybe someone in your area can go with you if they know what they're on about.. motors should be pretty quiet, and a bit like a sewing machine or drill as you rev it up.
does it look tidy? if it looks like its been knocked around, scratches, chips, etc wear and tear on painted or metal parts.. then it might have had a hard life. if it looks like new it might have been cared for or pretty low kms..
good luck
Asher
22nd April 2012, 20:22
Not sure why you are discounting 2 strokes. A bike that age will need a similar amount of maintenance as a 2T and the 2T is much easier to find parts for and will cost less if something goes bang.
And they are 20hp more :devil2:
Sable
22nd April 2012, 20:53
Yes, what's wrong with 2 strokes? Also Hyosungs are gay
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 20:56
here you can have a look at the bike and let me know what you think, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-459697626.htm
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 20:58
I counter you one..
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-468449665.htm
I'd be getting a cbr250r for more like 2,500-2,700 bro.. not 5k thats too much. unless the dealer is offering u some sort of 12 month full on warranty or something for that price.
if u wanna spend like 5-6k get a 2 stroke for sure
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 21:01
yeah it is very expensive aye, it would come with 6 months wof, 3000km insurance and 3 months rego - never really looked at 2 strokes, why are they better?
Kickaha
22nd April 2012, 21:04
I can't see why anybody would want to buy a 22-year-old motorcycle, irrespective of whether it's a two or four-stroke. Either way it will be an overpriced piece of shit.
22 year old? don't think I've ever owned anything that modern :finger:
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 21:08
yeah it is very expensive aye, it would come with 6 months wof, 3000km insurance and 3 months rego - never really looked at 2 strokes, why are they better?
each to their own really.. 2 strokes bit of an enthusiasts bike.. gotta ride em hard, they are different :D
the cbrs are plenty of fun too and maybe a bit learner/novice rider friendly? depends how keen you are..
you could def get a cbr for cheaper than 5,5 tho, 6 month wof is only worth what 35 bucks, and rego is rego.. and 3,000km insurance i dunno what that is.. but u can get insurance fairly cheap from NAC or protecta on L licence
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 21:09
22 year old? don't think I've ever owned anything that modern :finger:
thats the spirit :cool:
GingerMidget
22nd April 2012, 21:12
yeah it is very expensive aye, it would come with 6 months wof, 3000km insurance and 3 months rego - never really looked at 2 strokes, why are they better?
For that kind of coin you could get something a lot newer, and with a much more detailed history. You could buy a 2 year old cbr or ninja off someone who just got their full for that. Don't buy that one.
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 21:14
I have been looking at ninjas, i dont really like the styling though and i want an aftermarket exhaust
GingerMidget
22nd April 2012, 21:15
I have been looking at ninjas, i dont really like the styling though and i want an aftermarket exhaust
Why do you want an aftermarket exhaust?
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 21:15
yeah it is very expensive aye, it would come with 6 months wof, 3000km insurance and 3 months rego - never really looked at 2 strokes, why are they better?
Faster. Lots faster.
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 21:24
because i like to sound, im very interested in the cbr, my dad is gona have a look at it, im sure its been looked after well, other option is ninja or hyosung
mossy1200
22nd April 2012, 21:26
Faster. Lots faster.
What happens with LAMS changes though. they wont be able to be owned by someone on a learners or restricted.
Idd by the cheapest bike possible until lams change then a larger cafe racer after personally.
Maybe even start out on a 250 enduro or motard that wont loose value when the change happens.
GingerMidget
22nd April 2012, 21:26
If you want a CBR, look on trademe. There are loads of them, and don't assume because a dealer has it that its been looked after. Its probably a trade in.
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 21:29
CBR out performs the newer ones.
But according to the chaps on here it will explode.
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 21:31
What happens with LAMS changes though. they wont be able to be owned by someone on a learners or restricted.
haha yea thats a good point actually.
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 21:31
yeah but the bike would have been serviced and checked in order to be traded in and sold out
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 21:31
What happens with LAMS changes though. they wont be able to be owned by someone on a learners or restricted.
Idd by the cheapest bike possible until lams change then a larger cafe racer after personally.
Maybe even start out on a 250 enduro or motard that wont loose value when the change happens.
You won't be able to buy one when LAMS is in, but if you already own one it's okay.
:rolleyes: Stupid rules
GingerMidget
22nd April 2012, 21:34
yeah but the bike would have been serviced and checked in order to be traded in and sold out
One service will not fix a lifetime of abuse.
Kempz44
22nd April 2012, 21:36
thats true, well i will do a bit of research and make a decision within the next week or so.. cheers guys :)
GingerMidget
22nd April 2012, 21:39
Just out of curiousity, what have you had before?
Asher
22nd April 2012, 21:41
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-467309031.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-462643379.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-461403381.htm
All of these look good.
Madness
22nd April 2012, 21:44
Repost;
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-469050025.htm
mossy1200
22nd April 2012, 21:46
You won't be able to buy one when LAMS is in, but if you already own one it's okay.
:rolleyes: Stupid rules
If thats the way they do it good luck trying to sell it later. I think its a bad investment buying a 2 smoker if its on the list. The only market for it will be guys with full licence wanting a play bike and they wont pay what a learner would for it because they arnt restricted in what type play bike they buy.
mossy1200
22nd April 2012, 21:50
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-467309031.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-462643379.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-461403381.htm
All of these look good.
Yep and ill give you 2k for them when learner riders cant buy them. Maybe Hitcher will give you $2500.
I could be wrong but I do think they wont have a good resale market. Rider with full licence after a play bike will grab a late 90s/early 2000 sport 600 rather than them if spending 6k.
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 21:50
Repost;
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-469050025.htm
oh yea that avatar is working for me Madness, way better than the last one bro. she had a dog face
Fast Eddie
22nd April 2012, 21:52
Yep and ill give you 2k for them when learner riders cant buy them. Maybe Hitcher will give you $2500.
I could be wrong but I do think they wont have a good resale market. Rider with full licence after a play bike will grab a late 90s/early 2000 sport 600 rather than them if spending 6k.
nah, cause a 600 isnt a 2 stroke 250..
I didn't buy a 600. and who knows as the numbers disappear due to said lack of maintenance ;) there will be a few that will want whats left. might keep the price up.
they dont make em like they used ta!
mossy1200
22nd April 2012, 21:53
Repost;
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-469050025.htm
Thats what I would get until after October. Good thinking
mossy1200
22nd April 2012, 22:00
nah, cause a 600 isnt a 2 stroke 250..
I didn't buy a 600. and who knows as the numbers disappear due to said lack of maintenance ;) there will be a few that will want whats left. might keep the price up.
they dont make em like they used ta!
You could be correct but remember if supply (250 2 smoker rockets) exceeds demand (guys wanting a play bike with full licence) prices will fall until the universe is balanced again. Logic says the demand will decrease when learners cant ride them.
Idd be playing on this if I had 6k for a second bike. The 2 smokers I would own. Dont get me wrong but not at todays market value.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-468382922.htm
New top fairing and screen all up under 6k
Asher
22nd April 2012, 22:00
If my perfectly good rgv is only worth 2 grand next year i guess i will keep it forever, i dont mind that.
Would mean less 2T on the market, so there value would go back up.
mossy1200
22nd April 2012, 22:07
If my perfectly good rgv is only worth 2 grand next year i guess i will keep it forever, i dont mind that.
Would mean less 2T on the market, so there value would go back up.
Dont get me wrong, I like 2smokers and its worth what you feel its worth to you but to sell the market value is its price value. I started on rg250f then rg400 then rg500wf. Loved them all but I wouldn't rush out and pay 6k for a 2T before lams change.
Asher
22nd April 2012, 22:13
True, im lucky i paid half that for my bike.
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 22:18
If thats the way they do it good luck trying to sell it later. I think its a bad investment buying a 2 smoker if its on the list. The only market for it will be guys with full licence wanting a play bike and they wont pay what a learner would for it because they arnt restricted in what type play bike they buy.
You could be very right Mossy, if the 2t market dies, I might buy me an RS or and MC28. :cool:
mossy1200
22nd April 2012, 22:24
You could be very right Mossy, if the 2t market dies, I might buy me an RS or and MC28. :cool:
I may also but the thing stoping me is that for the same dollars I could get a 600 at the moment. If a rough rs became 2-3k it would make for a great second bike or even a TZR/RGV/NSR for less. Im thinking maybe rs250 may not drop alot since they are hard to find in good condition and a more desired bike.
ducatilover
22nd April 2012, 22:44
I may also but the thing stoping me is that for the same dollars I could get a 600 at the moment. If a rough rs became 2-3k it would make for a great second bike or even a TZR/RGV/NSR for less. Im thinking maybe rs250 may not drop alot since they are hard to find in good condition and a more desired bike.
I think any of the better condition 2ts will hold value reasonably well. But yeah, the RS is the coolest of the lot anyway :headbang:
057rxz
23rd April 2012, 10:06
when it comes to 250's just stick to two strokes. F*** the rest.. ull just end up ringing the shit out of em anyway.
Kempz44
23rd April 2012, 12:04
since im new to biking, why would i buy a 2 stroke over a 4 stroke?
ducatilover
23rd April 2012, 12:10
since im new to biking, why would i buy a 2 stroke over a 4 stroke?
Faster, lighter, sounds sillier
The Pastor
23rd April 2012, 12:24
get the cbr mate, they are extremely well made, and much better for a learner than a 2stroke.
you wanna be able to ride the bike, not keep in the garage replacing pistons.
although if you want a crash course in rebuilding engines, a 2 stroke is the way to go ;)
Cbrs are very fast in the right hands.
Question to all yo haters, what 250cc 4cylinder 4 stroke can you get other than an early 90's cbr/zxr/fzr etc? ohhhhh wait thats right YOU CANT. So shut your ignorant little mouths. The reason they are still crazy popular, is that they are the best 4stroke 250 you can get.
bogan
23rd April 2012, 12:24
Faster, lighter, sounds sillier
smells better too :D
057rxz
23rd April 2012, 13:20
since im new to biking, why would i buy a 2 stroke over a 4 stroke?
because u will learn alot more about motorcycles in general.. Look at all your pros.. rossi, pastrana, stoner, reed, the lot. Whatd they start on!!! 2 strokes!!!!!! You may have hassles here and there but you will learn alot more about motorcycles overall as a whole before you go back to lumpy 4t's. Trust me. Otherwise just be like everyone else get urself some shitty cbr or ex250... not have a clue what your doing on a motorcycle and just ride around thinking you know what your doing but really you dont. get a fancy exhaust thats meant to add more horsepower but really just a sound effect that makes you feel like your going faster. We've all being down this road before. And my advice is start of with a wreck of a bike wether it be 2t or 4t then you choose.
057rxz
23rd April 2012, 13:23
get the cbr mate, they are extremely well made, and much better for a learner than a 2stroke.
you wanna be able to ride the bike, not keep in the garage replacing pistons.
although if you want a crash course in rebuilding engines, a 2 stroke is the way to go ;)
Cbrs are very fast in the right hands.
Question to all yo haters, what 250cc 4cylinder 4 stroke can you get other than an early 90's cbr/zxr/fzr etc? ohhhhh wait thats right YOU CANT. So shut your ignorant little mouths. The reason they are still crazy popular, is that they are the best 4stroke 250 you can get.
true that, alot better then the lemon ex250's people are riding on. Its fucking horrible seeing those things on the way too work every morning. They are fucking shit. And as for the heroes that kit there Ex's with yoshi pipes well sorry it doesnt add the extra 5hp or whatever the packaging says its a load of shit! LOl go have fuhn with your 250's kids
Grantman_
23rd April 2012, 15:55
get the cbr mate, they are extremely well made, and much better for a learner than a 2stroke.
you wanna be able to ride the bike, not keep in the garage replacing pistons.
although if you want a crash course in rebuilding engines, a 2 stroke is the way to go ;)
Cbrs are very fast in the right hands.
Question to all yo haters, what 250cc 4cylinder 4 stroke can you get other than an early 90's cbr/zxr/fzr etc? ohhhhh wait thats right YOU CANT. So shut your ignorant little mouths. The reason they are still crazy popular, is that they are the best 4stroke 250 you can get.
Mate, right on.
Fast Eddie
23rd April 2012, 17:11
yeaa, some good opinions coming through now ;) haha
your new to bikes - so you want to get a 2 stroke 'cause if you can learn to ride one well and get the most out of it. You will be a better rider for the rest of your life no matter if your 2t or 4t..
rebuilding them is fun, look up my thread. and it keeps them alive and in mint cond. they dont make 2ts anymore. A dying breed. flag save the whales or the rain forrest. Save the 2t
mossy1200
23rd April 2012, 19:43
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-469275440.htm
Buy that and book a $30 bus trip down to collect it and ride it home.
The Pastor
24th April 2012, 09:21
hornets are good bikes too, if you want a more open / upright style.
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