Would you have an influenza vaccination?

[Oakie]

So I've arranged for employees at work to get a free flu jab for this winter's version if they want it. 20% took up the offer.

If I offered you the same, free of charge and done at work would you say yes or no?

[rachprice]

I do but mostly because I work in a hospital

[mattian]

Never had one and dont agree with them. Mass immunise for the flu today means an even more virulent strain of flu virus tomorrow. It just doesnt make sense to me.

[tri boy]

Not a chance.
I'll take my chances with nature beforesome quack injects a vial full of Pakistani spit into my blood stream.

I don't live in a cage and have red eyes and a long tail.

[SMOKEU]

Can't say no to free drugs.

[Nova.]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SMOKEU again.

[swbarnett]

Never had one and dont agree with them. Mass immunise for the flu today means an even more virulent strain of flu virus tomorrow. It just doesnt make sense to me.
Normally I would agree. However, the flu virus mutates every year anyway.

[Gremlin]

Others that have had the flu jab have been the ones ending up sick, at least from what I've seen.

I have no objection to it on any grounds, I just prefer for my own immune system to do it's job.

When I get sick, it's clearly man flu and I'm dying. :lol:

[sugilite]

Others that have had the flu jab have been the ones ending up sick, at least from what I've seen.

I have no objection to it on any grounds, I just prefer for my own immune system to do it's job.

When I get sick, it's clearly man flu and I'm dying. :lol:

I agree 100% The days when I worked in corporate, seemed to be the majority of the ones that had jab came down with the flu soon after. Same saps would stick their arm out the next year, baaaaa :weird:

[swbarnett]

I agree 100% The days when I worked in corporate, seemed to be the majority of the ones that had jab came down with the flu soon after. Same saps would stick their arm out the next year, baaaaa :weird:
I am of the opinion that this is because most of the ones getting the jab are the worriers. They're going to get sick no matter what. The other thing to remember is that the vaccine is only against influenza, not the common cold. I would have to report that I've had fewer bouts of full-blown flu since getting it.

[Maha]

No, for some reason, I never get the Flu :niceone:
I cannot remember the last time I was laid up with a cough/snot nose/fever.

[XxKiTtiExX]

Others that have had the flu jab have been the ones ending up sick, at least from what I've seen.

I have no objection to it on any grounds, I just prefer for my own immune system to do it's job.

When I get sick, it's clearly man flu and I'm dying. :lol:


My old lady has noticed that also. She works with a couple of ladies who always get the flu jab. They get real sick all the time, but she gets nothing.

[Stirts]

In a “normal working environment” I wouldn’t get it done, but I work in a hostiple also and so it makes sense really. This is the second year that I have the jab and I haven’t gotten sick … but then I am not a sickly person.

[5150]

We been getting them at work for free every year. I been getting mine for the last 7 years. And since I have started, I never had a flu or a cold. So happy to take them every year

[oneofsix]

Looks like peeps are getting the flu and the cold mixed up as usual.

True the sickly are more likely to get he jab, partly because it is probably free for them, but also because they recognised if anyone is going to catch the flu it will be them. When they of course get a cold everyone assumes the flu jab didn't work :nono: They caught a cold, a different animal but most call it the flu because it sounds more dramatic.

Those that don't get the jab are somewhat living off the protection of those that do. Because a number do get the jab there is less flu around for the others to catch. Like those that don't immunise their kids against the likes of hooping cough and polio are really relying on it not being their for their darlings to catch.

Funny how when there were the epidemics a lot more people were keen on immunisation but now they are somewhat safe they can not do it. Suppose it makes sense, no point building a defence if you aren't likely to be attacked or are strong enough to withstand the attack.

[Str8 Jacket]

I've had the flu jab twice and both times I have ended up in hospital within weeks/months with pneumonia.... so not for me anymore.

Going to try those Buccalene (sp?) pills.

[oldrider]

I don't disagree in principal, I just don't like all the dangerously unhealthy other shit they put into the serum, like "mercury" etc! :doctor:

[SMOKEU]

Going to try those Buccalene (sp?) pills.

I've been taking them for a few years with no ill effects. Well worth the money.

[Paul in NZ]

I get the jab free. Us type 1 diabetics have a rooted immune system and get everything thats about usually.

Remember the flu jab only protects against the known viruses and the unknown ones can still get you. With something like type 1 a cold or flu becomes potentially very nasty (potentially). I've been healthier lately but well worth it I reckon.

[Hoon]

Everytime I've had the flu jab I've ended up catching several colds over the next year and also fallen over drunk a number of times as well. One year after having the flu jab, my car got broken into a week later and the Warriors lost to the Broncos.

But I still get the flu jab every year because its free and it'll take a lot more than that to talk me out of a free lollipop.

[Bassmatt]

ALL the Vaccines Are Contaminated - Every Last One of Them


"None other than the (now deceased) head of vaccines at Merck, Dr. Maurice Hillerman, who on camera admitted that Merck's Hepatitis B vaccines, contaminated with a virus, caused the AIDS epidemic in the US. He went on to say that all of Merck's vaccines are contaminated with cancer and other viruses. (The US government has conceded the HEB B vaccine causes Lupus. That vaccine is mandated for every infant in the US on the day of birth, and is associated with MS as well.)"

Thats the " head of vaccines at Merck, Dr. Maurice Hillerman"
in case you missed it.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/november292011/vaccines-contaminated-se.php

[Latte]

Got the flu jab last year (free from work). Sickest I've been ever, by a country mile. Will take my chances from now on.

[Oakie]

I've had the jab when the opportunity has arisen over the last 15 years and never had a problem. Never had the flu in that time either. It is still possible to get a flu having had a jab as it is only 90% effective and it only protects against the most threatening of the year's viruses ... (virii?)

[mashman]

Don't these vaccines usually contain a measured "quantity" of the virus they're fighting against to kick your immune system into being ready to kick any flue strains ass? I may be wrong but that's how I'm thought these things worked? To that end alone I'd rather take my chances at catching the flu than giving my body a dose of the virus and expecting that it's ready for the challenge.

[speights_bud]

Flu Related.....

[Pussy]

Going to try those Buccalene (sp?) pills.

They seem to work really well, Hels.

[Hitcher]

Mass immunise for the flu today means an even more virulent strain of flu virus tomorrow. It just doesnt make sense to me.

Well that's just bullshit. That's probably why it doesn't make sense to you.

[yungatart]

I've been offered a free flu jab every year since 1999. I work in a high school-an amazing breeding ground for bugs! I've never taken up the offer.
I have had the flu twice in my life, last time in 1979, I reckon I'll risk it.

[GingerMidget]

I've already had something fairly nasty this year, and I'm busy fighting off a head cold at the moment so I don't see the point. If I get a cold, I still go to work, because by the time I realise something is wrong someone else already has worse symptoms.

The last time I was actually sick though, it was bad enough to send me to the doctor who called it the flu and I was off work for 5 days.

Thats a no for me.

[short-circuit]

http://www.3news.co.nz/Are-flu-jabs-beneficial/tabid/367/articleID/250944/Default.aspx

[Usarka]

Would I? No.

Have I? Yes.

Circumstances.

[DrunkenMistake]

Didnt read the thread just the OP's first post,

I have a piss more immune system as it is, and I seem to get a real bad streak with the flu jab, Of coarse it is suppose to give you the flu so your body naturally immunises itself from the virus, but I seem to get one good hit of it, then another followed by another.

I had also considered getting it again this year, but as my partner is expecting, and isnt allowed to get the flu jab herself, it makes sense for me not to get it and get her sick anyway.


So short answer no.

[Oakie]

Don't these vaccines usually contain a measured "quantity" of the virus they're fighting against to kick your immune system into being ready to kick any flue strains ass?

Not really.The easiest way to explain it is that it's a hollowed out version of the virus. The outside is there but there is no payload inside. Sort of like showing the body a photo of the virus so it'll recognise it in future. The unwellness you may experience in the day after the vaccination is the body thinking ... "oh I've got a virus, must raise the body temperature etc to fight it'.

[Oakie]

Never had one and dont agree with them. Mass immunise for the flu today means an even more virulent strain of flu virus tomorrow. .

Nah. You're thinking of antibiotics like penicillin.
Viruses mutate fairly regularly anyway. It's just the way they behave.

[mashman]

Not really.The easiest way to explain it is that it's a hollowed out version of the virus. The outside is there but there is no payload inside. Sort of like showing the body a photo of the virus so it'll recognise it in future. The unwellness you may experience in the day after the vaccination is the body thinking ... "oh I've got a virus, must raise the body temperature etc to fight it'.

Oooook... that makes sense. It's like a picture card of the virus for the immune system? and it acts the result is like getting a blowy from a woman with no teeth?

[mattian]

Well that's just bullshit. That's probably why it doesn't make sense to you.

Well, you're just one of those jerk offs who thinks he's an expert on everything. The English language AND science too. Oh please, teach me some more grand master.

[mattian]

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Viruses mutate fairly regularly anyway. It's just the way they behave.

that would be another reason not to have the jab. Immunise yourself against one form of the flu but still vulnerable to another?
From what I understand the body can only fight off one virus at a time.

Oh wait!! ..... who is that four-eyed, balding, capped crusader on the horizon? Its HITCHER !! He will save us ! :not:

[Lelitu]

I won't be getting the flu jab
I'm in a low risk group, and have a fantastic immune system anyway.

I've had what I believe was flu twice in my life, both times lasted 3 days.
'course the first day I literally could not get out of bed. too much muscle ache, shivering and such.

as has been mentioned, there are many strains of flu, several hundred at least.
what's interesting is that the vaccine gives immunity to only a small number of very closely related strains,
whereas catching and recovering from a bout of flu gives much broader immunity to the virus.

I've not had the flu in the last 10 years, and the last time I did get it, I was living on noodles, and three hours sleep a night.

[swbarnett]

that would be another reason not to have the jab. Immunise yourself against one form of the flu but still vulnerable to another?
The vaccine is designed to protect against this years most likely strain of influenza. The other strain you talk about will most likely not appear until next year by which time another vaccine will have been produced which will not be the same as this year's.

At least that's the theory.

[Brett]

Well, you're just one of those jerk offs who thinks he's an expert on everything. The English language AND science too. Oh please, teach me some more grand master.

I'm actually with Hitcher on this one. Your comment and truth don't really agree.

I think an education campaign on how immunisation works is in order, the misinformation in some of the posts here is laughable.

That said, I WOULD get the flu jab, but probably wont...I have a pretty low risk profile.

[Zedder]

The aliens are behind the whole thing, ya know, like in the X-Files.....

[G4L4XY]

Already got mine...and it was FREE! through work, if it wasn't free would I get one? No that would mean paying for something, all my money goes on repairs for my hyobag

[short-circuit]

I'm actually with Hitcher on this one. Your comment and truth don't really agree.

I think an education campaign on how immunisation works is in order, the misinformation in some of the posts here is laughable.



+1 to this....which is why I don't understand your reason for not getting the vaccination.

[avgas]

Got the flu jab last year (free from work). Sickest I've been ever, by a country mile. Will take my chances from now on.
Seconded - did a test over a couple of years.
Year one - flu jab. Got sick 5 times
Year two - no jab. Got sick 4 times

So now I have replaced a potential harmful jab with various placebo's like chocolate.

[jasonu]

The first (and last) time I (was forced) had one I got the flu. Never again!

[Oakie]

So ... 15 of us had the jab this morning. No one fell sick in the 20 minutes afterward which is a really good start. I've decided I'll monitor the group for their experiences. Hopefully next year I'll get 25 employees on board.

[Berries]

We had about the same take up rate at work a couple of weeks ago. I've never been sick in my life and so don't believe in having the jab but have for the last four years under doctors orders. Yesterday I should not have gone to work, full on cold developed over the weekend. I can't link it with the jab but you never know.

Has anyone ever seen a piece of phlegm that is actually too big for your mouth? Bloody thing wouldn't even go down the plughole.

[Yow Ling]

We had about the same take up rate at work a couple of weeks ago. I've never been sick in my life and so don't believe in having the jab but have for the last four years under doctors orders. Yesterday I should not have gone to work, full on cold developed over the weekend. I can't link it with the jab but you never know.

Has anyone ever seen a piece of phlegm that is actually too big for your mouth? Bloody thing wouldn't even go down the plughole.

did you take a photo?

[Oakie]

Yesterday I should not have gone to work, full on cold developed over the weekend. I can't link it with the jab but you never know. .
Nah, you were right first time. You can't. Cold and flu are as different as Hondas and Harleys.

[Berries]

Am sure I shouldn't be shivering, the room is at 21.5 on the thermostat.




did you take a photo?
I've been to China and wondered where you drew the line when it came to nourishment.

[mashman]

The government have heard your call (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/13666674/immunisation-may-link-to-future-welfare-payments/). So they want people to "protect" their children's health or else they'll cut your benefit and your children's health will probably suffer :killingme. I love this country... the entertainment is outstanding.

[GingerMidget]

Am sure I shouldn't be shivering, the room is at 21.5 on the thermostat.

That sounds like a fever. Typical response to a cold. Or its the immune reaction to the flu vaccine. Which happens.

I got my voucher, and proceeded to hiff it in my locker, I'll deal with it next week.

[unstuck]

Can not remember the last time I was sick, bloody years ago anyway. It must be a good sign. I get plenty of exercise,plenty of fresh air, eat fairly well, and have a pretty good mental attitude most of the time. Must be doing something right. A few of my mates get colds and flues a couple of times a year.:eek:

[Berries]

Still coughing like a twat and using up a shit load of tissue paper. Nearly over it.

I have never believed people who claim to have fallen ill after the flu jab, crock of shit I always thought. Changed my mind now somewhat.

Will have it again next year though, but not through choice.