Non drinkers and reasons behind it [Archive]

GingerMidget

4th May 2012, 22:13

So I was wondering how many on here don't drink alcohol, and the reasons behind it.

I'm talking from a previous alcohol abuse point, and why people decide to stop or are pushed in to doing so.

What do the sober among us do at a social gathering where drinking is expected? Like birthday things etc.

Its my birthday in a couple of weeks, and I've decided I'm sober. After the hangover this morning, its long over due. My dumb ass ex used to take great pride in telling me I had a drinking problem. I hate it when he's right.

Lelitu

4th May 2012, 22:33

bogan

4th May 2012, 22:38

If you've decided to give up drinking, then thats what you do at gatherings where it is expected. Show some conviction, and give the reasons, most people will accept them no worries, and those that don't are not worth worrying about.

I've had brutal hangovers, and often feel pretty sick after only a couple, had a big gut illness a few years ago and not been too alcohol tolerant since. So recently decided not to bother with it anymore, can still have good times, and being sober for riding/diving is good, missing out on drinking games is about the only time I actually feel left out for not drinking.

I just grab a red bull or something, blend in pretty well that way.

EJK

4th May 2012, 22:47

Never was big fan of alcohol (the taste especially). I'm generally physically weak with alcohol.

Coke, V or red bull are my good substitutes.

gonzo_akl

4th May 2012, 22:54

I've never actually abused alcohol
but I did decide to stop drinking entirely after christmas(or newyears) 2010
Mostly becuase I don't particularly like the taste, and I don't like being drunk
so there really isn't much point.

I've got little issue with ignoring social convention, so if I'm in a place where drinking is
expected, I'll still not drink alcoholic drinks. Generally just have a coke, and let people assume there's rum in it.

This pretty much sums up my situation - just stopped drinking around october 2010 - not long after I got knocked off my bike on the way home from work - I hadn't been drinking but I was tired and not paying enough attention so that and the fact that I'm not getting any younger - figured I'd slow down the spread for as long as possible. Haven't said that I've given up for ever - but I'm not in any hurry to start again.

I still regularly meet my friends after work in various bars around the ponsonby area - I just drink lime and soda. A number of the bars don't actually charge for it.

Upside is i generally feel better for not drinking - downside is that my jokes aren't as funny as I thought they were.

as for social convention - their problem not mine.

cheers

Brian d marge

4th May 2012, 23:01

you lot may have gueesed from my posts , that I am a screamiing alcholic ..I am ...( technically is called a functioning alcholic) ..abuse alchol! I dress it up in a japanese schoolgirls uniform , and spank its little arse with a stick of celery .......

so

I fk up sometimes and it will probably kill me , and the wife would rather i didnt .......

but I like drinking . Its my hobby . I enjoy my hobby , I brew beer , make whiskey and abuse my body ...ride bikes , crash bike , design bikes, build bikes .( while drunk and listening to awesome sounds ) , in fact its my happy place , nice wine , good sounds ( twas slayer this morning) and either cad , or cutting ..... life just doesnt get any better

right now , perving, drinking cheap shit and running a part through FEA ........( well , not quite , actually perving , drinking and kb,ing )

I dont know what it is like to be dry and am interested in the responses....!

Stephen aka that pervert in the orange tights

GingerMidget

4th May 2012, 23:01

Motu

4th May 2012, 23:02

I've given up alcohol several times for longish lengths of time....and it's always a monetary thing - given the choice of spending what little money I have on booze or bike, I pick bike. Someone else pays for the beer, I'll drink it.

Brian d marge

4th May 2012, 23:17

Thanks guys. I'm sick of being hungover. I'm sick of injuries taking longer to heal.

I suffer chronic insomnia, and drinking means I sleep. Its also time to cut out coffee again, because due to the insomnia, I drink a ridiculous amount of it, and energy drinks.

My stupid ex's reasoning that my drinking was a problem, was I'd drink until I was numb and couldn't feel anymore. My way of running from our problems. Unfortunately that didn't stop after we broke up. Then I stacked my mountain bike again, and it was one of the reasons I started drinking more.

Thanks for the lime+soda trick. I'll try that next time I'm out

been the lime and soda ...doesnt work . they do some wonderful non alcholic drinks , beer Asahi dry zero alc ...BUT the pink floyd song! ( comfortably numb) i understand where you are coming from...

and the problem is?

IF its destroying you life ..yes ......but if you get by , is it a problem? ( remember this IS an alcholic talking) ... if you take care of business and aint a cunt when drinking i dont see a problem , we all screw up sometimes ,

Stephen
Profeessor in social sobriety, english division , P.I.S.S.E.D

munster

4th May 2012, 23:21

Mmmm, this requires some thought.

I sleep better without alcohol, but I love a drink. Not every night, but a cold beer after mowing lawns for example is nectar of the gods to me.

I've several friends who don't drink, for some it's a religous thing (Mormon - yes they can have non Mormon friends), past alcoholic abuse issues, or even one who grew up in a commune and was regularly plied with alcohol then sexually abused, some just choose not to.

I don't care, I don't chose mates on the basis if they drink or not, I accept them for who they are and they in turn accept me.

Friends don't judge friends!

GingerMidget

4th May 2012, 23:22

The problem with my drinking, is I stop caring, and do unsafe things. I do things I wouldn't do sober. In december I broke my foot jumping a fairly high fence. Sobered up and realised something was wrong. I was home early last night, and it wasn't pretty. My hangover this morning was fairly nasty too.

I feel pressured to drink around other people to fit in, but I can't stop. Its like I know my limits, but see above about stopping the caring.

Drink because depressed, depressed because drink.

The Lone Rider

4th May 2012, 23:22

Has anyone else mentioned the cost of drinking booze? Take away that and smoking and we have a more financially secure populace I reckon.

Unless you're buying bottles from petrol station, water is free and ooo so good.

rachprice

4th May 2012, 23:48

Never was big fan of alcohol (the taste especially). I'm generally physically weak with alcohol.

Coke, V or red bull are my good substitutes.

Genetic unfortunately my dear..... a proportion of the asian population are lacking in the enzyme that converts aldehyde to an acid, the aldehyde is what makes you flushed and vomit. On top of that they have an over active alcohol dehydrogenase which converts alcohol to aldehyde faster which means you get less of the good and more of that bad!

you lot may have gueesed from my posts , that I am a screamiing alcholic ..I am ...( technically is called a functioning alcholic) ..abuse alchol! I dress it up in a japanese schoolgirls uniform , and spank its little arse with a stick of celery .......

so

I fk up sometimes and it will probably kill me , and the wife would rather i didnt .......

but I like drinking . Its my hobby . I enjoy my hobby , I brew beer , make whiskey and abuse my body ...ride bikes , crash bike , design bikes, build bikes .( while drunk and listening to awesome sounds ) , in fact its my happy place , nice wine , good sounds ( twas slayer this morning) and either cad , or cutting ..... life just doesnt get any better

right now , perving, drinking cheap shit and running a part through FEA ........( well , not quite , actually perving , drinking and kb,ing )

I dont know what it is like to be dry and am interested in the responses....!

Stephen aka that pervert in the orange tights

been the lime and soda ...doesnt work . they do some wonderful non alcholic drinks , beer Asahi dry zero alc ...BUT the pink floyd song! ( comfortably numb) i understand where you are coming from...

and the problem is?

IF its destroying you life ..yes ......but if you get by , is it a problem? ( remember this IS an alcholic talking) ... if you take care of business and aint a cunt when drinking i dont see a problem , we all screw up sometimes ,

Stephen
Profeessor in social sobriety, english division , P.I.S.S.E.D

And you! You just make me laugh....I understand what you say, I probably drink a lot to most peoples standards but I LOVE wine, I went to bordeaux in france just because I love their wine. Beer has grown on me....I know I have to be careful though, NZ has a rather bad drinking culture adn studying in Dunedin!

Winston001

5th May 2012, 00:12

Genetic unfortunately my dear..... a proportion of the asian population are lacking in the enzyme that converts aldehyde to an acid, the aldehyde is what makes you flushed and vomit.

Acetaldehyde to be accurate. :D Close relation of formaldehyde - the stuff used to preserve deceased bodies.

FYI the treatment Antabuse works by retaining the acetaldehyde in your body instead of it being synthesised into acetic acid radicals. It is a poison and no surprise we feel crook after drinking.

Rach makes a good point - a proportion of Asians have Antabuse hardwired into their DNA which makes alcohol difficult for them. Australian aboriginals too.

Brian d marge

5th May 2012, 01:22

Acetaldehyde to be accurate. :D Close relation of formaldehyde - the stuff used to preserve deceased bodies.

FYI the treatment Antabuse works by retaining the acetaldehyde in your body instead of it being synthesised into acetic acid radicals. It is a poison and no surprise we feel crook after drinking.

Rach makes a good point - a proportion of Asians have Antabuse hardwired into their DNA which makes alcohol difficult for them. Australian aboriginals too.

Dont want any of that stuff then,, though I do have antihighabusa , but thats a suzuki thing and isnt terminal

Stephen

Oblivion

5th May 2012, 01:36

My alcohol tolerance is pathetically weak. 4 drinks and I'm usually feeling tipsy. A couple more then I'm out.

I know what my limit is, so I usually have 1 then call it quits. Like EJK said, Coke and all that stuff are good substitutes. Who says that you need to be drunk to have fun? The drunken stories on the ride back as the sober driver may make for some interesting happenings the next day...

ellipsis

5th May 2012, 01:53

...my drug of choice is alcohol...i stopped drinking Lambs Navy Rum years ago...about the same time i stopped smoking Old Holborn tobacco...my tastes in rum have changed..Appletons is nice, Methusalem is the nicest...piss is the single most destructive element that our society condones...so many people that drink , shouldn't...life would be so much easier all round without it...but i couldn't handle the monotony...

GingerMidget

5th May 2012, 09:04

Drinking and smoking used to be my thing. Then i quit smoking. Unfortunately that just meant I drank more, because I didn't have to go outside anymore. One of the dumbest things was going on a binge the night before an R&T series event at manfield. I was sick all day, and my times reflected it. Blowing the radiator hose was just the final nail for that day.

This is it. I'm sober for the rest of the year. Or until I get my restricted :laugh:

Macontour

5th May 2012, 09:22

I guess NZ does have a culture where we just have to drink until we are written off and suffering the next day. I am an occasional drinker with a VERY occasional binge. ANZAC day is one of those where I have more than my share and thankfully I woke up on the 26th feeling great, not normal after a big night. Other than that I very rarely drink although last Christmas I found I was drinking a couple of RTDs every night for no reason at all.

If you are concerned about drinking and think you may have a problem, GPs are a good start for advice(as in General Practitioner not something to do with speed!!!!)and I believe that AA do a good job if you reallly want to change.

A work colleague has not had a drink for 30 years, still calls himself an Alcoholic and says that even now, if he had a drink it would be the start of aa downward spiral. Alcoholism is not a weakness, it is an illness.

Number One

5th May 2012, 09:46

I must be Asian ... Or aboriginal... I only like drinks that taste like lollies. I love desert wines and Margaritas! But not much else.

Height of summer I might enjoy a beer with dinner but hate being drunk, I go from tipsy and enjoying a wee buzz to vomit in under 30 seconds.

Hangover lasts a good week.

I kinda can't be bothered and my bike and life are to expensive at mo anyway!

That being said I don't really go out to pubs either.

I find them boring. Loud shit music and creeps and dumb drunk bitches looking for a leg to hump.

Yes I think it's official I'm old and uncool...meh I'm ok with that.

Kickaha

5th May 2012, 09:58

I woke up one morning feeling like crap after a night on the piss 25-30 years and decided it'd be the last time and stopped, I dont miss it and a few nights watching people turn into drunk fuckwits reminds me why I don't bother

The upside at the time was I got to thrash everone elses cars as the sober driver, downside was drunk mates telling me what a girl I was for not drinking and it took several months before people stopped trying to push drinks on me at parties

unstuck

5th May 2012, 10:01

Im 46 this year and gave up the alcohol when I was 22. Why, cos Im a(more of a) fuckwit when drinking.Love stealing cars when Im pissed for some reason.If I go somewhere and there is booze I just have a coffee, all the people that know me know not to hassle me about not drinking.I cannot stand being around drunk people. I still like a toke every now and then though.:Punk:

Woodman

5th May 2012, 10:34

Interesting thread.

Drinking was almost a sport when I was younger, last standing wins etc. Ended up in A&E so many times it makes me wonder how I survived past 25, okay 30.

Can take it or leave it now, but enjoy a beer after work occaisionally and a glass of wine or beer if out for tea or lunch, but more often now have a coffee.

Mind you this week I attended a couple of "business meetings" which got a little out of control and the way I am feeling at the moment makes me think that its just not worth it anymore.

Brian d marge

5th May 2012, 11:01

this thread needs music

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Stephen

jrandom

5th May 2012, 11:12

i stopped drinking Lambs Navy Rum...

You don't want to be doing that.

my tastes in rum have changed..Appletons is nice

There's something wrong with you, man. I tried Appletons the other day and had to give away the bottle. Undrinkable lollywater.

unstuck

5th May 2012, 11:47

The smell of coruba rum makes me hurl, I sculled a 40oz of the shit when I was 14 and ended up in hospital. I used to like pussers rum though. Jack or glenfidic were my favorite poisons. :msn-wink:

Zedder

5th May 2012, 11:49

My bike gets most of my booze money nowadays.

Speaking of which, it's "one for the road" time 'cos it's a great day out there.

Madness

5th May 2012, 11:50

I sculled a 40oz of the shit when I was 14 and ended up in hospital.

I sculled half a 40 of Coruba at a similar age and hallucinated all the way home then hurled from one end of my bedroom to the other. It probably didn't help that I had an old Honda trailie parked in my bedroom, complete with fuel in the tank giving off fumes.

SMOKEU

5th May 2012, 11:55

Don't be a bunch of pussies. Start distilling your own alcohol and HTFU.

rustic101

5th May 2012, 12:15

I use to drink like a fish in my younger years
After my 30th birthday I woke up one morning and never touch a drop since.
As a young Solider it was the in thing, it was cheap, and it how you wound down etc etc
In my wiser years and job I see the direct and indirect social harm it does
I'm not hypocritical about it though, as shit we've all been there....
When I go out I find people very accepting that I don't drink.
It certainly never stops me from having fun or participating

I just wish I could give up bloody smoking as easy lol

unstuck

5th May 2012, 12:20

Don't be a bunch of pussies. Start distilling your own alcohol and HTFU.

Yeah yeah yeah, wait until you reach 14, then we will see how well you handle your piss.:innocent::msn-wink:

Maha

5th May 2012, 12:25

Just of late, I can take or leave it...it can be (at times) over six weeks between drinks.
In saying that, I had 6 Appletons and a few Port chasers last night...
That was the last of any Rum in the house, not in any hurry to by anymore..may just have the odd Port now and again.

AllanB

5th May 2012, 12:25

LOL. Man these posts confirm there are some fucked up people on KB!

The drink - take it or leave it - I will admit to taking a lot more after the earthquakes here but I can leave it as I see fit.

Sounds like some of you are relying on it too much - it should not define who you are. Lay off it and go for a decent ride , preferably not to a pub!

HenryDorsetCase

5th May 2012, 12:31

Thanks guys. I'm sick of being hungover. I'm sick of injuries taking longer to heal.

I suffer chronic insomnia, and drinking means I sleep. Its also time to cut out coffee again, because due to the insomnia, I drink a ridiculous amount of it, and energy drinks.

My stupid ex's reasoning that my drinking was a problem, was I'd drink until I was numb and couldn't feel anymore. My way of running from our problems. Unfortunately that didn't stop after we broke up. Then I stacked my mountain bike again, and it was one of the reasons I started drinking more.

Thanks for the lime+soda trick. I'll try that next time I'm out

Here's a tip: buy a Sodastream machine and make your own Soda water. Add a slice of lemon or lime, and you have a really really nice drink. If you have difficulty sleeping, cut out alcohol, all caffeine and all sugary shit drinks (take your sodastream bottle, drink fizzy water). Eat regularly and do some exercise. try not to be a stress-monkey.

From a fellow sufferer.

HenryDorsetCase

5th May 2012, 12:33

Oh, about alcohol: I am indifferent to it. I do like beer and wine though. occasionally a gin, and a Jack Daniels. but if it tasted the same and had no alcohol, I'd still be happy.

also as I have gotten older, I drink a lot less, but can afford better. For example, I will drink one beer that costs $10 abottle, instead of a six pack of swill for $10.

HenryDorsetCase

5th May 2012, 12:34

Hoarn

5th May 2012, 12:37

The biggest problem with drinking is that it gives you an excuse to be a total asshole. You get to break shit, be obnoxious and offensive, hurt yourself and other people, say stuff you'll really regret the next day or do stuff you'd never want to do sober...... and you get to wake up the next morning feeling like absolute crap and just blame it on the Alcohol.

If you did the same stuff without the drink, you'd rapidly be without friends and/or in jail. I find this an interesting and somewhat depressing comment on society.

That said, I still enjoy a drink within limits a few times a month, and beyond limits a few times a year. :drinknsin

Fast Eddie

5th May 2012, 13:04

After realizing what a wanker I was I stopped..

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I don't touch the stuff anymore if I can help it/avoid it

unstuck

5th May 2012, 13:07

After realizing what a wanker I was I stopped..

I don't touch the stuff anymore if I can help it/avoid it

Nothing wrong with wanking:innocent: Its the booze that turned you into an asshole.:Punk:

Kickaha

5th May 2012, 13:07

After realizing what a wanker I was I stopped..
You might have stopped drinking but not being a wanker :whistle:

Paul in NZ

5th May 2012, 13:50

Hey GM - take this with a grain of salt if you want - I'm not bothered either way and only responded 'cos you asked.

You potentially have a big problem brewing. A few years back I got super sick and was forced to either face up to it or else. Funny thing I thought I was eating well (cos I'm a type 1 diabetic). However for my body - I was killing myself and when you are doing that you are not always making good decisions either. The toxics you are living off do make it harder to concentrate.

If you think you currently have an issue with alcohol - stop it. Make a commitment to be dry (say) 3 months and pile evey effort into training for your mountain biking. ie its the reason you are doing it.

Stop thinking about booze and start thinking about biking. You can't fight a thought so stop thinking about booze and replace those thoughts with other things.

Also - clean up your diet. Try going vege while you are doing without booze relearn how to cook.

If you live clean for a few months THEN and only then will you be able to a rational decision about stuff.

I'm down to 2 coffees a day MAX and about to drop to 1. I've seriously cut back my booze to red wine and only on weekends after being sober a year and only just started back on meat (the list of I can't eat is so epic meat had come back). Honestly, coffee, booze, energy drinks etc etc is just asking for it. Think cancer, diabetes etc etc

But the main point is just stop it now - in 3 months see how you feel. I'll bet you $100 that if you stop for 6 months you will be fitter, sharper and happier.

(ps - booze is terrible for sleep - sure it gets you to sleep but you wake up after a couple of hours wide awake)

ellipsis

5th May 2012, 13:58

...it's so dangerous that even though i was playing in a pub last night and only had one beer, i cant remember coming home and changing my KB name...or is that the residual effect of all that acid in the early seventies...dont know, dont care, i'm off to watch the local rugby team play in the domain...and have a beer or two or three or four.............

Usarka

5th May 2012, 14:03

I suffer chronic insomnia, and drinking means I sleep. Its also time to cut out coffee again, because due to the insomnia, I drink a ridiculous amount of it, and energy drinks.

Booze might make you fall asleep quicker, but it seriously reduces your quality of sleep. Your liver spends all night trying to process the alcohol which degregates(?) your sleep quality. Then you hit the bottle againg next night because you're so tired. And so on.....

I love booze, but quality of sleep is one reason I don't drink as much as i used to. I'd suggest looking into other strategies for sleeping. I might be able to give you some pointers if you're interested.

I drink a lot less, but can afford better. For example, I will drink one beer that costs $10 abottle, instead of a six pack of swill for $10.

+1 Quality instead of quantity. I also apply the same thinking to food.

slofox

5th May 2012, 14:09

I am a non-drinker most of the time (except when I fall off the wagon). This is due to poor choice of ancestors. In old age I have developed a condition known as Primary Schlerozing Cholingitis. Nobody really knows how this happens but there is evidence that it may well be familial hence my reference to poor ancestral choice.

This condition causes the bile ducts to inflame, scar and narrow, mostly because the bile attacks the lining of the ducts as it passes through. It's a kind of auto-immune condition. All this adds up to poor drainage of bile through the liver. Slow draining bile attacks the liver and causes it to become fibrotic - much like alcohol induced cirrhosis. So any extra stress on the liver (like that caused by consumption of alcomohol) exacerbates the fibrotic liver condition. Eventually, the liver will totally fuck up and you die. Or get a liver transplant. Or develop liver cancer and die anyway. One way or another, you're fucked once you get this. However, the disease's progress is slow so death never feels all that close.

In theory, I should have been dead two years ago according to the statistics relating to this condition. But so far it hasn't happened. Maybe Mr Death is scared to try it on. Or, more likely, I am further up the spread of those statistics. So I ride my motorbike most days so as to make the most of the time I have available to do it. My liver man said to me about four years ago "enjoy life while you can!" So I went out and got another bike. Obvious choice! Course I thought I'd be dead before I ran out of money but dammit, it looks now as though I'll run out of money before I die. Bastard!

Now I have always been a wine enthusiast and I do miss drinking wine. But I don't miss the alcohol. In fact I thrive far better when I don't imbibe. Sleep is far better, no hangovers, no problems driving - ever - and much more on the ball during the day. I go for many many months without a drink but every so often I decide that I am well and that one little drinky wouldn't hurt. And then I have to stop again.

Oh well, what the hell. My ex was one of the most health conscious people around and she died before me so there ya go.

Must plan a decent ride for tomorrow and make the most of this fabulous autumn weather. (But no drinks when I get home!)

Fast Eddie

5th May 2012, 14:10

You might have stopped drinking but not being a wanker :whistle:

haha, ditto is the word I'm looking for isn't it? :bleh:

blackdog

5th May 2012, 14:25

wysper

5th May 2012, 14:33

I guess I am pretty lucky on this front.

Course I did the stupid drink too much as a teenager, but we always did it away from town so there was no driving later.

Plus I don't like beer or wine and didn't give a shit if people thought I was soft because of it. So I never had a problem saying no to drinking.
I had good mates too, they never pushed the issue.

In my late teens I decided drinking was a waste of money and I wanted to spend my money on other things.... so I did.

Now I have the very occasional burbon or whiskey and leave it at that. I am now 40 and have never missed drinking. Or being drunk.

As I said. I was/am lucky in this respect.

Road kill

5th May 2012, 14:43

I don't drink alcohol,,I don't have any particular reasons why.

I used to, but stopped due to a lack of interest more than any thing else I guess.

The Singing Chef

5th May 2012, 15:36

Cut down my drinking a lot from a few years back. At 15 I was getting started on hard spirits which inevitably put me into hospital with Alc poisoning and Hypothermia which nearly killed me, then there was waking up with scars down my body and pictures from the night before. Stopped for a little while after that and then got back into it with a big box of Speights every weekend and lots of shots.

Figured it was a waste of time and I am sick of throwing up so just didn't drink much after that, I have a few now, more when I go out to town (Mmm tequila.)

Never been a huge addiction/problem for me though, now smoking on the other hand.

avgas

5th May 2012, 15:45

I am reading this at work, with Corona in hand.

But on the upside I have created a lovely 19" Rack for the sales guys to take to a show on Monday. Isn't it sexy - best thing is it actually works and does what its supposed to.
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But I have to admit I have cut down my drinking quite substantially. Primary reason is I no longer have friends to drink with. Back when I was managing a team of service tech seemed to be the norm to have 4-5 beers a night. Now I have that in a month.

unstuck

5th May 2012, 16:08

Still have not found my clothes from a drinking session at the brownsy one night many moons ago, I woke up stark naked lying face down in the middle of the bowling green across the road. Not much fun running home at morning rush hour draped in their flag.:facepalm:

blackdog

5th May 2012, 16:13

Another thing to bear in mind is that if you have been dependant and cease your alcohol intake those calories are going to have to be replaced to sustain your body.

Prepare for an appetite with a vengeance after the initial withdrawals have subsided.

MadDuck

5th May 2012, 16:32

I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes 7 years ago. My response was "stuff it...it wont kill me". I think it was abit of denial as this only happens to really fat people. Seems that is not the case at all.

About 18 months ago I got a call from the doctor which sent me into a spin so things had to change. That day I gave up smoking and all alcohol. I changed my diet and started all over again. Hell I lost 20kgs. I went to a mates 40th last month and I think it took two glasses of wine and it was all over...lol

I do not miss the drinking at all. I have just adapted my life to be without it and the result has been having my diabetes well under control.

**R1**

5th May 2012, 16:50

I don't drink, i hate the feeling and watching other people drunk reminds me why i stopped,

alcohol is such a nasty drug

if you ask around there is way better highs out there:msn-wink:

Scuba_Steve

5th May 2012, 17:04

I'll start by saying I drink, I enjoy it. But I enjoy vehicles more...
So when I don't want to drink cause I wants to drive, I don't take money to buy (if going pub) or I don't take drink (if private) works well. If you don't have drink or the means to get drink you won't be drinking :sunny:

Vodka!!!

Oakie

5th May 2012, 17:49

I drink a little but haven't been anywhere near drunk since a wet day in a tent at Hanmer Springs with Mrs Oakie a couple of months ago.

The day before that I invited a lone biker over to our site for a beer and a yack. He said he stopped drinking years ago because it made him make bad decisions. Fair enough. We brewed him a coffee instead and still had a yack.

I don't like the time wasted suffering a hangover so usually stop well before that point.

Geeen

5th May 2012, 18:26

I'm not exactly a tea totaler but I'm close. I'll have the odd decent whiskey every now and then (6 - 8+ months between drinks). The main reason is I have no desire to drink, I don't see alcoholic drinks as anything special. Would much rather have OJ or this Lemon tea I drink. As others have said it gives you more $$ for the important things like my bike and Wife.

Usarka

5th May 2012, 18:27

Fuck this I'm pissed as a cunt's ingrown hair flap.

HenryDorsetCase

5th May 2012, 19:22

Agree fully with stopping drinking with the help of a doctor. Alcohol detox is not nice, and can be extremely dangerous depending on the extent of the abuse.

It killed Amy Winehouse.

caspernz

5th May 2012, 19:28

Alcohol is something I can take or leave, can go weeks without anything. On occasion will down a couple, but I've gotten past enjoying hangovers, so that's enough for me.

Same goes for coffee and diet in general. What you described Ginger...sounds kinda diabolical, but you'll know that already. Plenty of good advice posted already, and it's valid. Coffee and any kind of caffeinated drinks keep you buzzing, and this will bugger your sleep. Personally I stay away from them in the last 3 or so hours before bedtime.

Some of the guys I work with laugh at my daily routine, the stuff I eat and the distilled water with Ribena that I drink by the gallon. Used to be the same when I stopped drinking lots at social gatherings, guys n gals used to give me grief and called me all manner of things. Boohoo, I had a thick skin already, it just got thicker.

You'll need to decide what works for you, I'm sure you'll do the right thing....

Drew

5th May 2012, 19:34

Homosexuality is not a choice they reckon.

GingerMidget

5th May 2012, 19:35

Oakie

5th May 2012, 19:37

As others have said it gives you more $$ for the important things like my bike and Wife.

Nice to see you put 'my bike' first.

Drew

5th May 2012, 19:38

I'm drinking right now. It's AWESOME!

Drew

5th May 2012, 19:39

Nice to see you put 'my bike' first.That was "my bike and wife". No fuckin returns!

unstuck

5th May 2012, 19:41

Apple cider vinegar, manuka honey and hot water is a nice refreshing drink, and it is a great detox aid.:msn-wink:

mossy1200

5th May 2012, 19:43

I used to drink a fair bit on Friday and Sat night but when I split with the ex I didnt have much cash so I needed pick between nice bike or drinking. Bikes won. I could do both now but I lost the taste and dont miss the hangovers. I do the work socials and odd night but maybe 4 drunken stints per year max. The xmas dozen sits in my fridge and runs out about late Feb early March.

Scuba_Steve

5th May 2012, 19:50

I just got home a little while ago after a big day of riding and the incident in the hutt, my first thought was wheres the vodka. Instead I just poured some juice and sat on the couch. I still want a drink, but no. Just no.

If you need help getting off the drink I have a lovely home for any Vodka you should have laying round, I'll also foster gin, tequila, schnapps, wine, sake, in-fact most white sprits or liqueurs. :innocent:

Apple cider vinegar, manuka honey and hot water is a nice refreshing drink, and it is a great detox aid.:msn-wink:

I'm gonna have to try that now... just cause

GingerMidget

5th May 2012, 19:57

Apple cider vinegar, manuka honey and hot water is a nice refreshing drink, and it is a great detox aid.:msn-wink:

Will add the ACV to my shopping list and see if i remember tomorrow afternoon :laugh:

unstuck

5th May 2012, 20:08

You can buy it already prepared like the comvita stuff, http://www.comvita.co.nz/health-foods/cvt-apple-cider-vinegar/honeygar-140.html but I like to mix it myself because then I can get it just the way I want.:msn-wink:

mashman

5th May 2012, 20:12

I only ever drink when I go to the pub... which used to coincide with watching lots of football, and/or quiz night, and/or a manly bonding session or two per week. Some jobs I've had have had interesting friday night ritual drinking sessions. These days (pretty much since coming to NZ) I still only drink when I go to the pub, but fortunately that's only once or twice a month (damned expensive business) and I really don't miss it at all.

oneofsix

5th May 2012, 20:13

Good luck staying sober. Personally when I decided I nolonger liked getting drunk I learnt to listen to my body, and not to my mates, and to space out the drinks so I could still enjoy the alcohol but not have to suffer the fallout like hang-overs. Sometimes I get it wrong but whats life without mistakes :laugh:

BTW a hang-over is largely dehydration so plenty of water helps, a sipper bottle at night for whenever you wake.

ellipsis

5th May 2012, 20:20

....quart bottles on the sideline, recharge at halftime, then another at three quarters through the game, two more at the after match...could have hung around another hour but decided the rum sitting in my shed was an appropriate next call...got a 50th tomorrow...that could be serious...but im hangin out for a real good piss-up with some old mates soon...thats fucking serious...i have slowed down a lot over the years...

Drew

5th May 2012, 20:26

'Nother Heineken finished, where'd I put that box...sorted.

Kickaha

5th May 2012, 20:37

'Nother Heineken finished, where'd I put that box...sorted.

I don't know why'd you'd bother drinking you're a big enough cunt sober

Drew

5th May 2012, 20:42

I don't know why'd you'd bother drinking you're a big enough cunt soberGiven that you're an enormous cunt and don't drink, I take responsibility for you in my drinking too.

Usarka

5th May 2012, 20:45

At least you have an excuse drew :lol:

Drew

5th May 2012, 20:51

At least you have an excuse drew :lol:I figure, if I don't drink it, someone else might. Now they might get crook, I don't want that on my conscience!

Brian d marge

5th May 2012, 22:27

tried giving up , been well ages since I last had a drink , so Im just having the one

Stephen

ellipsis

5th May 2012, 22:37

...it aint what you do..(more music necessary about now)...

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puddytat

5th May 2012, 22:38

I dont need to drink cause I got pot instead...

nathanwhite

5th May 2012, 22:44

Don't drink, never have. Might start someday but right now I'd just rather just not.
At social gatherings I just have some energy drink or juice and that's fine. If I'm asked why I'm not drinking I just tell them its because I've chosen not to. They accept that easily enough and I have a great time watching everyone else go all dribbley and stupid

Oakie

5th May 2012, 22:59

Couple of glasses of 'Main Divide' reisling during and after tea with a bourbon and L&P about an hour ago. That'll do me for the night.

Flip

6th May 2012, 00:00

I don't drink much these days.

Didn't like the damage it did to my liver. No chance of ever getting DIC these days. Save heaps of money and I always used to eat a lot more with a glass of wine in my hand.

GrayWolf

6th May 2012, 02:05

I just got home a little while ago after a big day of riding and the incident in the hutt, my first thought was wheres the vodka. Instead I just poured some juice and sat on the couch. I still want a drink, but no. Just no.

I appreciate all the feedback, and the suggestions will come in handy as I start a new sober journey. I like the sodastream idea. Gives me something to drink on my birthday night!

Maybe there is no 'one fix' fits all... there's now a thing called 'reduction of harm'.. by reducing intake.. It's like smoking, if you only have 1 ciggie a week, your STILL a Smoker. Like everyone generally I used to drink a fair bit at weekends when younger.. I stopped after a 'scare',,, I still drink but dont get 'drunk' and can go months without even looking at a bottle of wine, scotch or beer.
Went to a party in my mid/late 20's and did a large bottle of jack over about 2.5hrs just sipping it. The Guys took my bike keys, tried to order me a taxi but I was going to 'walk home'... I was told I was so pissed I was bouncing side to side off the walls of a narrow hallway... and was going to 'ride home'? I cant even remember that. Anyway I had about a 3.25 k walk home on an almost straight road,,, it was winter, wet and cold (England) I took 4.5 hrs to get home.. didnt fall over, get wet, sleep in a garden etc... but I have about 5-6hrs of my life completely missing. I NEVER want to be THAT out of control of my life again. Had I been a female, well it doesn't take a lot of imagination to work out the 'possibles'.....
I actually 'hate' parties and pub's my tolerance for peoples drunken loud behaviour is practically ZERO now. I cant give a magic formula GM, I simply made a decision and chose to never get that way, or seriously drunk again.
Nowadays I am like another poster... booze Vs Petrol for a ride... Ride wins every time.

Brian d marge

6th May 2012, 03:28

status update , typing difficult , vision , well .....train of thought ........

ste.,,.stepehen...sphebcxn...bollox

stepehn sod it

Maki

6th May 2012, 08:43

I have a glass or two a few times a year and nothing more. Any drinking beyond that just makes me feel ill....

GrayWolf

6th May 2012, 10:02

I have a glass or two a few times a year and nothing more. Any drinking beyond that just makes me feel ill....

Yeh aint that the truth, if I drink a bottle of wine in an evening now, I lose at least half the next day feeling 'seedy'....

SMOKEU

6th May 2012, 11:30

It costs me less than $1 to get very drunk as I can make a litre of vodka for just under $2. I laugh at the fools who pay for alcohol.

Brian d marge

6th May 2012, 11:34

It costs me less than $1 to get very drunk as I can make a litre of vodka for just under $2. I laugh at the fools who pay for alcohol.

me to, I bought the easystill...works a treat

Stephen

SMOKEU

6th May 2012, 11:41

me to, I bought the easystill...works a treat

Stephen

Next time you should double distill it. Distill about 3 batches of alcohol, then put the distilled product back into the still to get an even more pure brew.

Brian d marge

6th May 2012, 11:57

Next time you should double distill it. Distill about 3 batches of alcohol, then put the distilled product back into the still to get an even more pure brew.

I doesnt last long enough..and the mash I put through tastes ok , .....so I just distill as required ,,,,one day I will double distill

Stephen

unstuck

6th May 2012, 12:04

I laugh at the fools who pay for alcohol.

I laugh at the fools who get drunk on alcohol.:msn-wink:

Canis G.

6th May 2012, 12:20

Hey GM,

Good on you for posting, gets people thinking eh?

Mate some times it just gets so fucked up - drinking, other substances, relationships, deaths in the family, lose your job, earthquakes tra la, tra la, tra la. And it can be so hard to see a way out of it because life doesn't present you you one problem at a time to deal with. People can tell you to harden up or abstain or whatever, and well it's good advice, it's also asking you to exert a shit load of effort in self control at a time when your stress levels are high and your energy low. If you fail you tend to beat up on yourself even more and this can turn in to a fairly deadly spiral.

Just based on what you have written, it may be time to seek some professional help. There is a lot available out there, its often free, and believe me it helps.

Kia kaha.

HenryDorsetCase

6th May 2012, 12:28

Next time you should double distill it. Distill about 3 batches of alcohol, then put the distilled product back into the still to get an even more pure brew.

what is the point of that? you end up with a fairly pure ethanol, so the only reason you would consume it is to get fucked up? You've got it ass-backwards, son. getting tiddly is a by-product of drinking, not the purpose. Trust me, no one wants to hear from you at 3am. No one wants to see your manscaping, or wake up with your sick on their shoes.

#tipsforahappylife.

SMOKEU

6th May 2012, 12:49

what is the point of that? you end up with a fairly pure ethanol, so the only reason you would consume it is to get fucked up? You've got it ass-backwards, son. getting tiddly is a by-product of drinking, not the purpose. Trust me, no one wants to hear from you at 3am. No one wants to see your manscaping, or wake up with your sick on their shoes.

#tipsforahappylife.

The point in double distillation is to increase the purity, and therefore quality of the ethanol by removing more unwanted alcohols. That's exactly why reflux stills are capable of producing a much higher quality spirit than a pot still.

I have a basic reflux still which produces alcohol at 89% ABV, and when watered down to 40% ABV the spirit is siginificantly cleaner than the alcohol produced from a pot still or reflux still which produces alcohol at a much lower strength, even when the wash is produced in an almost identical manner with similar cuts being taken relative to the quantity being distilled.

scumdog

6th May 2012, 13:47

It costs me less than $1 to get very drunk as I can make a litre of vodka for just under $2. I laugh at the fools who pay for alcohol.

Pah...and I laugh at fools that paid for a still...:laugh::bleh:

gammaguy

6th May 2012, 16:21

GingerMidget

6th May 2012, 16:28

Invited down to the pub to drink beer in the sun, what am I doing instead? Cleaning my big tropical fish tank out. Cos its maintenance time. Oddly this appeals more than being drunk.

Brian d marge

6th May 2012, 16:44

Pah...and I laugh at fools that paid for a still...:laugh::bleh:

Mine has paid for itself and now its making money... usually cost me 5 k ( yen) for a nite out , tonite for example ( yes Im on the , again ! ) so by bringing my own homemade , which doesnt taste half bad ,,,,! I save 5 k .... happy and joy all round .....

Stephen...

and I agree you can strif a lot of unwanted flavoers , then use a nice water to mix ...I like getting the mash right , and letting the flavour come though form the pot still, I had some failures and some success, all good

SMOKEU

6th May 2012, 16:59

Mine has paid for itself and now its making money... usually cost me 5 k ( yen) for a nite out , tonite for example ( yes Im on the , again ! ) so by bringing my own homemade , which doesnt taste half bad ,,,,! I save 5 k .... happy and joy all round .....

Stephen...

and I agree you can strif a lot of unwanted flavoers , then use a nice water to mix ...I like getting the mash right , and letting the flavour come though form the pot still, I had some failures and some success, all good

Try my recipe (for a 25L batch), and scale it down if you need to:

5kg sugar
1.5 cups tomato paste (make sure it's preservative free, a little added salt is fine)
1 tbsp citric acid
6 tbsp baking yeast

It tastes pretty damn good and the ingredients aren't going to attract unwanted attention.

GingerMidget

6th May 2012, 17:15

You drinkers - away with you.

Gremlin

6th May 2012, 17:17

I'm about as close to teetotal as possible, but perhaps not quite, although I can't remember the last time I drank alcohol, several years ago at least.

Parents allowed me to try alcohol as a kid, so there was never the fascination with "forbidden stuff", as I'm sure how most kids start drinking. Never liked the taste, beer or wine, can't tell the difference between wines or beers either, it all tastes like shit to me, so what's the point. Also enjoyed not burning wads of cash on alcohol as well. Did enjoy recounting the stories of a previous night when the participants in the story had no clue. :laugh:

From a health side, I don't drink tea, coffee or energy drinks either (except Powerade - was thinking more of V or Red Bull etc). None of them are particularly healthy either. Caffeine also makes you stay awake (for most anyway - for some it has the opposite effect), which could explain OP's sleep problems. Had a family friend who had lots of energy drinks to get through a day until a doctor said she had arrhythmia and had to cut it out. She's a heap healthier for it as well. Having some sort of combination of the above probably plays hell with your body. Alcohol isn't a good idea on a ride either, as it's a diuretic, so dehydrates you faster, affecting concentration etc.

As for parties, don't attend many, but don't feel the need to substitute anything either, as there is no pull. If I'm thirsty I just have soft drinks when wanted.

As I say to people, I only have one vice, I just make it a good one. The amount I spend on biking is horrendous :wari:

Woodman

6th May 2012, 17:26

Invited down to the pub to drink beer in the sun, what am I doing instead? Cleaning my big tropical fish tank out. Cos its maintenance time. Oddly this appeals more than being drunk.

I have a mate who cannot go out and have one beer. One beer and he just can't stop till he's pissed. Not sure whether its the alcohol or psychological but he has been like it since i have known him (20 odd years).

Kickaha

6th May 2012, 17:34

Woodman

6th May 2012, 17:43

That's a bit like I was, I found it easier to just not drink at all

Thinking about this and we were probarbly all like it when we were younger but we all grew out of it with one exception. Ginger Midget may well be getting to that stage where she realises that its just not worth it anymore and needs to make that transition from "young drunk and stupid" to "slightly older, drunk occaisionally and a bit less stupid" or therabouts.

SMOKEU

6th May 2012, 19:06

. If I'm thirsty I just have soft drinks when wanted.

If you're that serious about your health then you wouldn't drink soft drinks.

Ocean1

6th May 2012, 19:09

I have a mate who cannot go out and have one beer. One beer and he just can't stop till he's pissed. Not sure whether its the alcohol or psychological but he has been like it since i have known him (20 odd years).

Sounds exactly the behaviour that's said to characterise alcoholism. Often wondered if it were that simple, though.

I like an occasional indulgence, most flavours. Guess I’m lucky, I rarely fail to stop somewhere between mild buzz and paralytic.

jrandom

6th May 2012, 19:21

Being drunk is at the bottom of my list of fun ways to alter my neurochemistry.

Unfortunately, since I get the standard battery of construction industry drug tests at work, ethanol and LSD are all I really have. And, as the Cookie Monster would say, acid is a Sometimes Thing.

So it's drink or be sober.

I'm mostly sober at the moment cos I'm training. But, truth be told, it's pretty boring.

I should make the point that personally, I dislike getting drunk in large groups. Most people are really quite annoying and unpleasant when they're drunk. If all y'all find 'parties' inseparable from drinking, I'm not surprised you're becoming teetotallers.

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Gremlin

6th May 2012, 19:26

If you're that serious about your health then you wouldn't drink soft drinks.
I ain't that serious about my health (as in being a gym bunny, or going vegan etc), just a few little tweaks here and there, and being sensible.

crystalball

6th May 2012, 19:33

Stopped drinking about 2yrs ago and smoking at same time. Dont like making a idiot off myself when drunk as most times I would binge drink. For some reason latly tho I have been thinking about tobacco.

Nova.

6th May 2012, 20:22

People who don't drink are boring.

sinned

6th May 2012, 20:37

It took months of tests to discover my liver doesn't process alcohol, in even small amounts and around 3 years for the liver to recover. Now I have cut back to only the occasional drink my general health has improved and specific health issues have gone. At first I continued to go to the pub and drink ginger beer etc; now I have become one of those people who don't go to the pub. The motorcycle and other interests now fill what would have been pub and recovery time.
There is life without alcohol.

scumdog

6th May 2012, 21:16

People who don't drink are boring.

Yeah but in my line of work those who drink too often turn into arseholes.

"Instant arsehole - just add booze"

Scuba_Steve

6th May 2012, 21:19

Yeah but in my line of work those who drink too often turn into arseholes.

"Instant arsehole - just add booze"

just as well the company you work for supplies it's own bar for you lot then aint it :bleh:

GingerMidget

6th May 2012, 21:46

People who don't drink are boring.

How long have you been dry?

Nova.

6th May 2012, 21:47

How long have you been dry?

I drink every day.

unstuck

6th May 2012, 21:53

People who don't drink are boring.

I have been a none drinker for 20+ years, and my life is far from boring. :msn-wink:

Nova.

6th May 2012, 21:56

I have been a none drinker for 20+ years, and my life is far from boring. :msn-wink:

Never is for us excavator operators..

superman

6th May 2012, 21:58

http://www.bssns.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2467767.jpg

Brian d marge

7th May 2012, 02:52

Yeah but in my line of work those who drink too often turn into arseholes.

"Instant arsehole - just add booze"
while you may ( and have proved ) that you may not be an arse , many of your co workers , excell , and indeed have degrees in being-an-ass-aholic

I on the other hand only achive excellence on friday night .

Stephen

Brian d marge

7th May 2012, 02:57

I’m typing stuff , that’s important

Stephen

Paul in NZ

7th May 2012, 08:12

You drinkers - away with you.

Nah - they wont leave. The committed drinkers hang around threads like this and will encourage you to drink because basically they can't control their own drinking. Make no mistake - alcohol is a powerful and addictive drug and once it gets its claws into you you are pretty well hooked for life BUT with the right motivation you can make a choice.

I think if you are concerned about your drinking then there is a very high chance its becoming a problem so good onya for giving it a go.

I find if I schedule a session at the gym early sat morning its a powerful motivator to avoid the friday night 'I deserve a drink' thing.

Drew

7th May 2012, 08:27

I'm drunk already.

Paul in NZ

7th May 2012, 08:48

Residual or newly drunk? I think there is a super bonus liver point for being freshly drunk on a monday morning?

idb

7th May 2012, 13:45

....There is life without alcohol.

That's just crazy talk...

nodrog

7th May 2012, 13:52

Doctor Phil called, he wants his guests back.

scumdog

7th May 2012, 14:11

That's just crazy talk...

Next thing people will say there is no such thing as a secret KB wave...:shutup:

FJRider

7th May 2012, 14:18

Next thing people will say there is no such thing as a secret KB wave...:shutup:

They may say it ... but we know the truth ... :wings:

unstuck

7th May 2012, 22:30

2 Peter 2:19 “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.”:innocent::msn-wink:

Brian d marge

7th May 2012, 23:39

sober ,,,

reality flooding back , not good

Ill have to talk to the wife

Stephen

might go to me garage and play with me toys

Drew

10th May 2012, 17:28

I'm off to the pub. Now if only they served a refreshing, carbonated, tasty amber liquid derived from hops.

Akzle

10th May 2012, 18:34

i have no objection to drinking, and have on the odd occasion enjoyed the odd beverage.
i've also drunk enough to give any mere mortal alcohol poisoning, made an absolute arse of myself in ways and days i'd rather forget.

alcohol is a neurotoxin. (not a drug, as it is commonly bandied around as/with)

consuming anything is personal choice, as long as you do no harm to anyone else, it's noone elses business what reason you do or don't

Brian d marge

10th May 2012, 18:37

bloody ell, is that what the wife looks like .........

Stephen

Nova.

10th May 2012, 18:44

You drinkers - away with you.

I recall a certain someone drinking wine while painting...

GingerMidget

10th May 2012, 19:52

I'll be honest, the last 4 days have sucked so bad. Combine withdrawl, with lack of sleep and arsehole customers. Jesus christ.

God this had better get easier. I'm too stubborn to do anything else.

gwigs

10th May 2012, 20:34

Hang in there GM you will start to feel better in a day or two,good on ya for getting this far.I just stopped again 2 weeks ago and the first week is not pleasant but its great not feeling like shit everyday...

bogan

10th May 2012, 20:46

It does get easier as time goes on, so keep it up. Also, a decent workout is a good way to reset stress levels back to baseline I've found; and energy expended might help you sleep better too?

rickstv

10th May 2012, 22:12

:drinkup::drinkup::drinkup::drinkup::drinkup:

superman

10th May 2012, 23:09

2 Peter 2:19 “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.”:innocent::msn-wink:

At least use something directly alcohol related!

Genesis 19:32 "Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up." :eek:

haydes55

10th May 2012, 23:29

At least use something directly alcohol related!

Genesis 19:32 "Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up." :eek:

Genesis 1:12 "And the earth brought forth the green herb, and such as yieldeth seed according to its kind, and the tree that beareth fruit having seed each one according to its kind. And God saw that it was good"

Gay marriage is less sinful than not lighting up. God said weed is good.

Replace hops and barley with the green herb. God says so.

SMOKEU

11th May 2012, 09:01

What is this, bible class or something?

unstuck

11th May 2012, 09:04

1 Corinthians 13:1 ........ I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.:bleh::Punk:

jrandom

11th May 2012, 10:15

I'll be honest, the last 4 days have sucked so bad. Combine withdrawl, with lack of sleep and arsehole customers. Jesus christ.

Vitamin B1, at least 100mg daily.

jrandom

11th May 2012, 10:28

On a serious note, I'm with Paul in NZ on the exercise helping to stay off booze thing.

I've been nigh on completely dry for three weeks now, solely because I decided to do the Wellington half marathon on 26 June and this year I don't want to be slow.

And it's just not possible to drop fat and get fast while drinking every day.

I find the only lasting downside to sobriety, now that the withdrawal's over, is increased boredom and reduced patience with the world. Not being drunk makes the rest of humanity harder to tolerate.

:sunny:

HenryDorsetCase

11th May 2012, 10:49

I’m typing stuff , that’s important

Stephen

This is a great signature for KB.

oneofsix

11th May 2012, 11:13

Genesis 1:12 "And the earth brought forth the green herb, and such as yieldeth seed according to its kind, and the tree that beareth fruit having seed each one according to its kind. And God saw that it was good"

Gay marriage is less sinful than not lighting up. God said weed is good.

Replace hops and barley with the green herb. God says so.

Which green herb would that be, hemlock, deadly nightshade, or one of the thousands of others that will end you?

oneofsix

11th May 2012, 11:19

I'll be honest, the last 4 days have sucked so bad. Combine withdrawl, with lack of sleep and arsehole customers. Jesus christ.

God this had better get easier. I'm too stubborn to do anything else.

What does this Jesus Christ character ride? is he on KB? :bleh:

It will get easier, the customers will get no better but your tolerance levels will rise .... Oh hold on, ginger, ummm scrub that bit about tolerance :laugh:

Less drink = more money for petrol + more sober time + less hangover times = more riding opportunities :wings:

unstuck

11th May 2012, 11:21

Yep, exercise is the key. Healthy body healthy mind. As for being bored, there are so many things to do on this planet, how can anyone possibly get bored.:eek:

unstuck

11th May 2012, 11:23

What does this Jesus Christ character ride? is he on KB? :wings:

My guess would be a harley, with that hair and beard all he needs is tassles.:msn-wink:

Canis G.

11th May 2012, 12:26

I'll be honest, the last 4 days have sucked so bad. Combine withdrawl, with lack of sleep and arsehole customers. Jesus christ.

God this had better get easier. I'm too stubborn to do anything else.

Hang in there GM, you may, or may not, have hit the bottom yet. The only way you are going to know is when things start getting better - and the good thing is they invariably do.

Crisis management

11th May 2012, 13:19

Keep at it GM, you only get one chance at life so you should live it in the way you want, taking control rather than letting it happen to you seems like a pretty good option to me.
I end up behaving like a twat when I drink and I'm well over behaving like a twat, simple choice really.

Paul in NZ

11th May 2012, 17:05

I'll be honest, the last 4 days have sucked so bad. Combine withdrawl, with lack of sleep and arsehole customers. Jesus christ.

God this had better get easier. I'm too stubborn to do anything else.

4 days and its hurting? Dear god but you are doing the right thing..... Replace 1 habit with another. I'm guessing all the house works up to scratch by now, time to hit the gym?

scumdog

11th May 2012, 20:45

Brian d marge

11th May 2012, 21:38

4 days and its hurting? Dear god but you are doing the right thing..... Replace 1 habit with another. I'm guessing all the house works up to scratch by now, time to hit the gym?

Screw that , I agree with G,M

I havent had a drink since , Monday , or maybe Tuesday ,,or possibly Wednesday ... but all is better now on Friday after second bottle of Home brew

" watching Porterhouse blue "

Stephen

in line for the next Porter house Blue

mashman

11th May 2012, 21:47

follow the black penguin

http://i.qkme.me/35tqkj.jpg

ellipsis

11th May 2012, 22:04

...anything in moderation...dependance is a big word and also sometimes a crutch...to hold to the decision of the intellect as opposed to the one of emotion will oft see one through...and everything that follows the word 'but', is probably bullshit...

Brian d marge

11th May 2012, 22:36

ellipsis

11th May 2012, 22:45

...it's just a place in our heads we disappear to...not sure about the U.S equivalent...im no less moderately anything now than i was before...

Brian d marge

11th May 2012, 23:27

...it's just a place in our heads we disappear to...not sure about the U.S equivalent...im no less moderately anything now than i was before...

if the us moderation is as good as their gallon ...then life suxs sweaty balls in america

Stephen

GingerMidget

12th May 2012, 21:49

unstuck

12th May 2012, 21:56

So, its been a week without drink. I still want one. I spoke to someone about it, and apprently I'm not doing too badly. Considering I stopped drinking coffee on wednesday too, and nobody has died from annoying me. Yet.

Little steps there GM, you dont want to be trying to cut everything out all at once( unless you are mentally strong enough). Good on you though, life is too short to be sick and broke all the time.:devil2::first:

oneofsix

12th May 2012, 22:07

So, its been a week without drink. I still want one. I spoke to someone about it, and apprently I'm not doing too badly. Considering I stopped drinking coffee on wednesday too, and nobody has died from annoying me. Yet.

crikey GM, if you were having more than 3 cups a day they reckon you will be risking feeling like you have a hangover without the booze. Water is meant to help flush the system and avoid the caffeine withdrawals. Goodluck.

NordieBoy

12th May 2012, 22:32

People drink alcohol?
I thought it was just for cleaning things?

Weird.

Paul in NZ

13th May 2012, 07:10

Paul in NZ

13th May 2012, 07:11

Isnt Moderation a place in texas?

Stephen

I've been to Texas - there is no moderation there

YellowDog

13th May 2012, 07:22

I like drinking beer - On average I probably drink about two bottles per month.

I like drinking red wine - On average I probably drink about two glasses per month.

I like drinking Whiskey (neat with a lump of ice) - On average I probably drink about one bottle bi-annually.

Gin & Tonic is one of my favorite drinks - on average I probably drink about four per year.

Whilst I do like a lot of drinks, I don't feel the need to cut back. Chocolate's another story though................... :no:

Usarka

13th May 2012, 09:03

When you get home from work, scull a pint of water. It makes you not thirsty. Removing the thirst component is a small help towards not reaching for a bevvie.

So, its been a week without drink. I still want one. I spoke to someone about it, and apprently I'm not doing too badly. Considering I stopped drinking coffee on wednesday too, and nobody has died from annoying me. Yet.

Caffeine is a stimulant, and stimulants are vascolastictors(?) ie they narrow blood vessels. So the headaches and shit feelings that you're getting from stopping coffee are all these blood vessels relaxing and getting more blood and oxygen around the place, including your brain! Yay!

Berries

13th May 2012, 09:07

I like drinking beer - On average I probably drink about two bottles per month.

I like drinking red wine - On average I probably drink about two glasses per month.

I like drinking Whiskey (neat with a lump of ice) - On average I probably drink about one bottle bi-annually.

Gin & Tonic is one of my favorite drinks - on average I probably drink about four per year.

Whilst I do like a lot of drinks, I don't feel the need to cut back.
Cut back? From what? If that's drinking I am in deep shit.

DMNTD

13th May 2012, 09:16

Cut back? From what? If that's drinking I am in deep shit.

Agreed...I may actually be in deeper shit that I originally thought :confused:
1l of rum is a soft week for me but fark, I've given up everything else:laugh:

GingerMidget

13th May 2012, 10:13

I'm seriously rethinking the coffee thing, I love coffee far too much to ever completely give it up.

YellowDog

13th May 2012, 11:46

I'm seriously rethinking the coffee thing, I love coffee far too much to ever completely give it up.

i GET SERIOUS HEADACHES IF i GO WITHOUT COFFEE FOR MORE THAN 2 DAYS

GingerMidget

13th May 2012, 12:55

Mmmmm coffee. Helping motivate me since forever ago. I've started cleaning stuff. This could turn out to be a not wasted sunday!

ellipsis

13th May 2012, 13:06

....coffee like cocoa isn't really a drink unless it's full of rum...hang in their GM if thats what it takes...white knuckle sobriety is generally a dead end road...to figure out why we drink and working on that part of life is more likely to help on the long road...i have medicinal reasons for drinking...life gives me the shits...less so when im pissed...

GingerMidget

13th May 2012, 13:12

I know why I drink, and I know why I don't stop. Its not really that hard to put the two together. I did stupid things because I was drinking, and I'd rather not end up in the same situtation again. So I'm taking constructive steps towards fixing things instead of just letting them fester and screwing things up. Next step, involves deciding where I want to live. A big part of me still wants to return to Sydney, but I think thats more a case of yearning for previous comfort.

Time to put my girl girl panties on, and sort my shit out!

Oh, and ride in the rain. Thanks for being so obliging Wellington.

Edbear

13th May 2012, 19:17

I'm seriously rethinking the coffee thing, I love coffee far too much to ever completely give it up.

The good news is that studies show the body adapts to it as it does to many drugs. I have cut back on coffee but as it doesn't seem to do me any harm and I like it, I'll keep drinking it.

For a change I have Chai Latte or Caro.

I found the cheap coffee's give me heartburn so only drink the "better" brands like Mocona (sp), which are fine.

Macontour

13th May 2012, 22:20

You're doing well GM. All sorts of things may help. Herbal teas, lots of water, some exercise to sweat and get the oxygen flowing, various Liver detox type supplements containing Dandelion, Artichoke, St Marys Thistle and other natural remedies. Your local health store or pharmacy could recommend products to help your liver out.

Also eating less meat and more veggies may give the body a little break. Or if you have access to a juicer, there are books at the library that would recommend various juices you could make.....or just get a range of carrots, oranges, berries, melons etc, juice them and see what you like.

Or just buy the ready bottled fruit and veg juices from the supermarket. Theres V8, Just Juice and a Woolworths Select one. A few options on flavours and most of them taste pretty damned good and give you a couple of your daily fruit and veg serves in a glass.

Above all, remember why you are doing it and keep at it.

nzspokes

13th May 2012, 22:26

When I was 21 I went to a party in Henderson. Woke up 2 days later in Dargaville. Didnt drink again untill I broke up with the wife a couple of years back. Can control it now. (hick)

Nova.

13th May 2012, 22:42

Is it bad that i keep a box of beer in the toolbox of my digger?

nzspokes

13th May 2012, 22:46

Is it bad that i keep a box of beer in the toolbox of my digger?

No, but apparently Lion Red on my wheatbix was a bit much for an ex.

Nova.

13th May 2012, 22:51

No, but apparently Lion Red on my wheatbix was a bit much for an ex.

Hmm that's strange? i don't see what her problem is.

Woodman

14th May 2012, 07:02

Hmm that's strange? i don't see what her problem is.

Lion Red :weird:

ellipsis

14th May 2012, 08:56

.....i know this guy addicted to brake fluid...reckons he can stop anytime..

unstuck

14th May 2012, 09:41

Ya fucken alcoholics. Get yourselves to AA.

These are the original Twelve Steps as published by Alcoholics Anonymous:

1:We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2:Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3:Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4:Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5:Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6:Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7:Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8:Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9:Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10:Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
11:Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12:Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

:devil2::bleh:

HenryDorsetCase

14th May 2012, 11:30

Is it bad that i keep a box of beer in the toolbox of my digger?

Ask the OSH guy next time you see him. In fact, he'd be offended if you didnt offer him one. or twelve.

Swoop

14th May 2012, 11:43

A person is never "cured" of alcoholism, merely in remission (according to my mate who goes to AA still, after 15+ years off of the juice).
Another mate was the Navy's biggest boozer. He quit completely, without any help.
After 6 years dry he stated "he could handle beer now" and one beer eventuated in an extremely large intake at once, and then becoming dry again. He has been dry ever since (15+ years).

No, but apparently Lion Red on my wheatbix was a bit much for an ex.
On weetbix?:no:

On Rice Bubbles?:yes: Snap, crackle and burp!

Maha

14th May 2012, 11:56

Hmm that's strange? i don't see what her problem is.

Lion Red was the problem...that stuff is for cleaning drains and taking to party's where you can drink anything but!

Now if it had been an actual beer like Stella Artois...maybe, just maybe, there would not have been a problem.

ducatilover

14th May 2012, 12:53

I don't drink very often these days, I'm too tight and I was an expensive drunk :facepalm: I have dirty fags as my vice and all other money goes towards bikes. :Punk:

unstuck

14th May 2012, 13:28

:facepalm: I have a dirty fag as my vice . :Punk:

There ya go,fixed.:laugh::bleh:

ducatilover

14th May 2012, 13:56

There ya go,fixed.:laugh::bleh:

No no, I never have just the one fag. I have many fag ends during the day.

Swoop

14th May 2012, 21:16

Now if it had been an actual beer like Stella Artois...
Say what? That shite is vile.
I rate it up there with sweinlager, possibly even higher in fact, for undrinkability.

nzspokes

14th May 2012, 21:34

Lion Red was the problem...that stuff is for cleaning drains and taking to party's where you can drink anything but!

Now if it had been an actual beer like Stella Artois...maybe, just maybe, there would not have been a problem.

30 years ago, Lion Red was king.

Maha

15th May 2012, 07:03

Say what? That shite is vile.
I rate it up there with sweinlager, possibly even higher in fact, for undrinkability.

Seems to go down easier than a penniless whore around here..

30 years ago, Lion Red was king.

So was Disco....:wari:

Brian d marge

15th May 2012, 13:14

30 years ago, Lion Red was king.

that says a lot , one good thing about the freeing up of trade , it made some realise how aweful some products were

Stephen

YellowDog

15th May 2012, 15:25

It's like English beer used to be.

No one drinks it now.

The European stuff is so much better :yes:

avgas

15th May 2012, 15:32

30 years ago, Lion Red was king.
Rubbish. I think you missed 10-20 years. Lion Red was good in the 70's not 1982. Plenty of good beer around then.

oneofsix

15th May 2012, 15:37

Time to put my girl girl panties on, and sort my shit out!

how did you get away with posting that and not get asked for pics?

:facepalm:Oh shit I just kind of did that didn't I?

Don't return to Sydney, you would miss the wind and rain Wellington offers :laugh:

Usarka

15th May 2012, 19:13

The committed drinkers hang around threads like this and will encourage you to drink because basically they can't control their own drinking.

Happens to me all the time with fat people and food. A acquaintance in the weekend made a snide comment that I'd eaten the most she'd ever seen me eat.

D'uh that's why I'm not fat.

Number One

16th May 2012, 10:03

Paul in NZ

16th May 2012, 11:28

Sheeit that's a buttload of religious reference in there. I don't think AA could help me even if I needed and wanted it.

Has to be seen in context with the era. It was a much more religious time ;-)

Number One

16th May 2012, 12:01

Has to be seen in context with the era. It was a much more religious time ;-)

Indeed.

Any idea what the GOD references been replaced by? I know a few AA members but they aren't that 'out' about it and reading that lot got me wondering if that's part of the problem...doesn't strike a chord with me so wonder how one particular friend relates to it.

Paul in NZ

16th May 2012, 12:41

DMNTD

16th May 2012, 12:47

Agreed...I may actually be in deeper shit that I originally thought :confused:
1l of rum is a soft week for me but fark, I've given up everything else:laugh:

Interesting...by choice, I have yet to have an alcoholic drink since posting this. :confused:

Maha

16th May 2012, 12:50

Interesting...by choice, I have yet to have an alcoholic drink since posting this. :confused:

:psst:...Trendsetter.

DMNTD

16th May 2012, 12:54

:psst:...Trendsetter.

As much as you're a hair model! :laugh:

Maha

16th May 2012, 12:57

As much as you're a hair model! :laugh:

Workin' on it...but the 10 Kgs (no not Kegs)I have shed in the last eigth weeks aint helping...:blip:

Number One

16th May 2012, 13:03

Workin' on it...but the 10 Kgs (no not Kegs)I have shed in the last eigth weeks aint helping...:blip:

You are doing it wrong you need to lose height not weight. It's just you are too tall for your hair!

10ks eh? Slim trim lady killer you.

Second thought - Hope it's not 'been sick weightloss'...

DMNTD

16th May 2012, 13:04

Workin' on it...but the 10 Kgs (no not Kegs)I have shed in the last eigth weeks aint helping...:blip:

Meh that's nothing...I lost 70kgs when Gordie finally got off my lap

Maha

16th May 2012, 13:11

You are doing it wrong you need to lose height not weight. It's just you are too tall for your hair!

10ks eh? Slim trim lady killer you.

Second thought - Hope it's not 'been sick weightloss'...

Na healthy as...non smoker for just over two years and now weigh 87Kgs..97 eight weeks ago...doc was not happy with me being that heavy.
Cut way back on the drink..only ever have a drink when needs must.

Meh that's nothing...I lost 70kgs when Gordie finally got off my lap

So he unloaded then?..:eek:

Number One

16th May 2012, 13:20

Na healthy as...non smoker for just over two years and now weigh 87Kgs..97 eight weeks ago...doc was not happy with me being that heavy.
Cut way back on the drink..only ever have a drink when needs must.

Good for you Maha! Thats all good stuff :)

nodrog

16th May 2012, 13:21

Interesting...by choice, I have yet to have an alcoholic drink since posting this. :confused:

Are Justices legs broken?

DMNTD

16th May 2012, 13:23

Are Justices legs broken?

It's just a sprain, I'm certain of it :shifty:

nodrog

16th May 2012, 13:27

It's just a sprain, I'm certain of it :shifty:

As long as the eggs are still getting cooked.

DMNTD

16th May 2012, 13:30

As long as the eggs are still getting cooked.

Eggs? Celery can be "eaten" raw

nodrog

16th May 2012, 13:38

Eggs? Celery can be "eaten" raw

yerp (http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Reminds+me+a+bit+of+the+celery+distraction+scene+i n+_a2826688a8fa28de4c7bd1aa49537a23.png)

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madbikeboy

16th May 2012, 20:51

Mmmmm coffee. Helping motivate me since forever ago. I've started cleaning stuff. This could turn out to be a not wasted sunday!

Okay, I tried reading all 15 pages of shite and then my attention span disappeared.

To the people who are proud of your drinking and assholeishness, good on you. Keep drinking and have one for each of us as well. You're all a bunch of weak assed mother fuckers who need a crutch instead of manning up and being real. Drunk drivers have cost me personally, I look around the dinner table and Christmas day and see empty spaces. Nothing but empty spaces. Keep drinking, drive fast, take chances. It's all because of the booze. No need for personal responsibility. I'd shoot every last fucking drunk driver myself if I could rationalise it. Maybe I should get drunk so I've got a reason.

Okay, to the OP - as much as I hate to agree with JRandom - exercise seems to help overcome addictions. It'll help with the sleep. It will help with the depression.

Get help for the core issues - meaning the depression and whatever is causing it - do you understand that there is a cause and effect here - why do you drink, why do you have insomnia?

Coffee - limit to one a day, in the middle of the morning. Drink Latte's because they have loads of milk and that seems to help reduce the bad effects. Eat properly, manage your blood sugars. Walk every day at the same time - no matter what the weather, get your skates on for an hour. I cycle as well. Except here in NZ because apparently we don't belong on the road; but I'm only back temporarily...

I spent this week in the coronary care unit at Auckland hospital with someone who is 70; his room mate was 27 and had died (and been resurrected, no other word for it) when out for a "few quiets" with his drinking buddies. 27 years old. Loads of energy drinks, loads of booze and partying, and now 27 years old with a pacemaker. Presented with his own mortality, this 27 year old was trying to walk the balance between reality and his cool drinking friends who were smuggling him booze in his hospital bed. An Aesop's fable of sorts...

Berries

16th May 2012, 21:23

To the people who are proud of your drinking and assholeishness, good on you. Keep drinking and have one for each of us as well. You're all a bunch of weak assed mother fuckers who need a crutch instead of manning up and being real. Drunk drivers have cost me personally, I look around the dinner table and Christmas day and see empty spaces. Nothing but empty spaces. Keep drinking, drive fast, take chances. It's all because of the booze. No need for personal responsibility. I'd shoot every last fucking drunk driver myself if I could rationalise it. Maybe I should get drunk so I've got a reason.
Bit of a jump from being someone enjoying a quiet drink or two and harming nobody to being a 'week assed motherfucker drunk driver' isn't there?

Number One

17th May 2012, 10:52

Bit of a jump from being someone enjoying a quiet drink or two and harming nobody to being a 'week assed motherfucker drunk driver' isn't there?

I thought the same! Thought i was in the wrong thread when I read that first bit :laugh:

Bet he felt better after typing that out though!

nodrog

17th May 2012, 11:04

.... I look around the dinner table and Christmas day and see empty spaces........

Well nobody wants to have christmas with a sober angry man.

Crisis management

17th May 2012, 12:38

Indeed.

Any idea what the GOD references been replaced by? I know a few AA members but they aren't that 'out' about it and reading that lot got me wondering if that's part of the problem...doesn't strike a chord with me so wonder how one particular friend relates to it.

Never been to AA but my understanding of the use of a "Higher Power" (their term) is that it is a non specific that lets you chose the colour of your god without chucking christianity down your throat. The advantage of having a higher power is that it lets you unload your failures and failings to someone / thing without repercussion and judgement, when you are having to address your shortcomings there's enough people "helping" with advice and comments that having someone you can unload on without getting feedback is quite a relief.
It's not something that works for me (I'm an atheist) but I don't have a problem with it, in fact I can see it's advantages and I know a lot of people that have found support from it, as usual, we are all individual and you need to tailor things to suit yourself.

How's today going GM, hope your hanging in there and having a good one!

Number One

17th May 2012, 12:59

It's not something that works for me (I'm an atheist) but I don't have a problem with it, in fact I can see it's advantages and I know a lot of people that have found support from it, as usual, we are all individual and you need to tailor things to suit yourself.

Yeah best I not develop an unhealthy habit - that wouldn't work for me either.

madbikeboy

17th May 2012, 16:24

Bit of a jump from being someone enjoying a quiet drink or two and harming nobody to being a 'week assed motherfucker drunk driver' isn't there?

Okay, maybe I should have a bridging sentence like - drunkards always seem to feel it's their right to get annoyingly obliterated and then go from being drunk at party, bar, work do, sports match - and then they do stupid stuff like piss on walls on Queen St, start fights outside clubs and bars, and then jump in their cars and drive home.

Is that better, less of a leap for y'all? Alcohol always seems to bring out the rational and clear headed decisions that make for a happy society. Oh, wait. Ever sat in a hospital ER in the wee smalls of a Saturday morning. Ever hung out with cops at bar closing time?

Crasherfromwayback

17th May 2012, 16:28

. Ever hung out with cops at bar closing time?

Ever hung out with a bunch of cops that've been drinking?

Maha

17th May 2012, 16:35

. Ever hung out with cops at bar closing time?

Years ago...late 80's, my then flatemate worked for the MOT...we would drink at the Bar at the Police station on friday nights before hitting the clubs (that does sound sooooooooo 80's dont it?) and whenever a cop would get up to leave, someone would say where the booze stops were....:msn-wink:
Yes, they drove home after drinking.

Bald Eagle

17th May 2012, 17:32

....:msn-wink:
Yes, they drove home while drinking.

there fixed, as I recall :-)

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unstuck

17th May 2012, 18:49

I did the whole AA thing for about 7-8 yrs, and it helped me, but I wanted more. It seemed most of the people there were addicted to AA. I have not been to a meeting for over 15yrs, and doing ok without it. The higher power thing is a biggy for a lot of people because as soon as you mention god or higher powers and stuff people think it is a religion or something. A guy who I knew in treatment had an ashtray as his higher power, but it worked for him. But He was a real Triumph nut, so maybe having an ashtray as a god was not so odd.:Punk:

Road kill

17th May 2012, 19:42

haydes55

17th May 2012, 23:58

Non drinkers and reasons behind it

Maybe you should ask: Drinkers and reasons behind it?

I like a few drinks every now and then but I know when enough is enough and I don't give a shit if I "was so wasted man".

TBH alcohol isn't actually that much fun. (having.
said that I have about 5L of straight bourbon :eek: and 1L of that is blue label, 700ml devils cut and alot of my grandads homebrew haha)

GingerMidget

29th May 2012, 17:31

So I fail spectacularly at the sober thing.

I was good til the 19th, when I started drinking for my birthday party.
Didn't drink sunday, but drank every night until today. When someone gave me their head cold. I've decided I'll just keep drinking. I'm nicer when I drink.

Berries

29th May 2012, 17:34

Don't worry. I have had a drink every night since you started this thread/diary and feel great.

ellipsis

29th May 2012, 18:13

...well, no alcohol has passed my lips for a couple of weeks now..don't know if GM's plight made me think about my habits or if it was just coincidental...nonetheless I have been a fairly constant drinker for 40+ years...a few months off 20+ years ago when it WAS problematic...i feel quite good for it, have saved quite a few bucks and have got a lot more done...even been out daily on a mountain bike left at my place recently...i am definitely going to carry on modifying my habits....i'm also taking a bottle of honey bourbon away this weekend when we get together with old mates out of town for a catchup...cheers GM... you will either stop or not when you are ready...

SMOKEU

29th May 2012, 18:48

I've decided I'll just keep drinking. I'm nicer when I drink.

I'd certainly hope so.

Maki

30th May 2012, 16:40

I don't drink because the stuff makes me feel nauseous. Oh yes, its also poison and kills people but who cares about that...

Crasherfromwayback

30th May 2012, 16:49

. Oh yes, its also poison and kills people but who cares about that...

All things in moderation. It won't kill you.

Maki

30th May 2012, 16:55

True. I do drink half a glass or so from time to time for the sake of being social. Can't remember exactly when the last time was though... Drinking to excess just makes me feel sick, so I don't.

Quasi

30th May 2012, 18:26

I've decided I'll just keep drinking. I'm nicer when I drink.

:lol::lol::lol: - that's what all the drunks think. :drinknsin

caspernz

30th May 2012, 19:14

All things in moderation. It won't kill you.

The other side effect is that the wife/mistress/girlfriend look better...or is that just me? :drool:

Crasherfromwayback

30th May 2012, 19:37

The other side effect is that the wife/mistress/girlfriend look better...or is that just me? :drool:

Like they say. The difference between a dog and a fox?

10 beers.

unstuck

1st June 2012, 10:11

Drinking makes women look real sexy.:devil2:

Berries

1st June 2012, 17:58

Drinking makes women look real sexy.:devil2:
Yeah, but you have forgotten about the beer goggles that make the top picture true.

ellipsis

21st June 2014, 12:48

...last year i signed up for the Dry July fund raising effort that supports adult cancer sufferers...it was a satisfying month, after the first week, that is... I managed to raise 600+ bucks for the Chch Oncology unit, a hell of a lot less than some fundraisers, but still worth the effort...the silliest thing I did was to start again after it was over...it was halfway through august before I succumbed to the 'bottle'...anyway, I just signed up again...it is a worthwhile thing to do and maybe if the booze is something you need a break from, this is a good way of going about it...it's either a personal or a team thing...maybe some KB'ers would like to get a team together?...