Suzuki DR250 project

[tigertim20]

Have just bought one (its fucked) as a project.

Im wondering if anyone has a link to a free downloadable manual, or one they can email me even?
Its a 1985 that I bought - it was cheap, and I have had a couple of these before, when I was about 15 I did a jump on one with a fat chick on the back and sheared off the rear shock mount which went through the seat, haha good time.
Looking forward to tearing into it for shits and giggles.

Also, if anyone has any electrical components they might be willing to part with, that would be good to know.

oh yeah, also, if anyone can tell me what parts from other years/models are the same/interchangeable, that would be a help too.

Dont ask for much do I?:laugh:

[unstuck]

Got the one for my 200 here http://www.scribd.com/doc/40540261/DR-200-Owners-Manual maybe there is a 250 also.:Punk:

[tigertim20]

thanks, Ill go take a look.

I should have mentioned that i Understand the engine is the same as a GN250, but different cams, but dont know if that means the electrics are the same as well?

[hayd3n]

thanks, Ill go take a look.

I should have mentioned that i Understand the engine is the same as a GN250, but different cams, but dont know if that means the electrics are the same as well?

so you bought a ginny with knobblies?

[tigertim20]

so you bought a ginny with knobblies?

basically, yeah!

[Mystic13]

So have you got pictures of the before... I always forget that bit then when I'm done you can't see the path taken.

I just bought an 86 DR250. It's a runner. Gold wheels too. In need of much work. And previously road rego'd. Done the cert yesterday and it's all good now just the paperwork to rego.

Just had a quick look at the two motors side by side and much is the same. The GN has a starter motor upfront so the left engine cover and housing is deferent. The sprocket cover is also different. The rest is the same. Interesting to know. I picked up the DR yesterday and the GN about a month back.

Good luck with the build.

I'm not sure if I'm keeping the DR. 21,000km's since new. And looks to be genuine. Most on a farm and a bit of time parked up in a shed.

[tigertim20]

thanks for that Mystic.
I pick the bike up tomorrow, but probably wont be able to do anything with it for a few days at least.
I am fairly sure it also has the gold wheels, which I like, and comes with a couple of spares.
it is very rough and needs heaps of work, and I will try to get more photos of this tha I did with my CR125 build.
the first step is check timing compression carb etc, then see if I can make it run at all. as soon as it runs, I will strip it down and start the hard work.
as far as I know, my one hasnt been road registered, but I cant be totally sure of that. If it has been previously, then I will most likely take it down that road as it will be handy to have like that.

[far queue]

Have a read through this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/33633) - someone else that got most of the way through restoring a DR250. There should be some useful info there for you, but I'll warn you now that he never finished the story ...

[Mystic13]

PM me any time if you need a picture of anything. Just got the carb back in the GN and it kicked into life for the first time since it arrived. Final clip together, warrant and rego and it'll be gone on Thursday to a new home.

Sounds like similar DR's. Here's some pictures of my one. I'd like to keep this because my son is riding an XR100. We can ride together. I also like the DR250 because it has a lower seat more like a scrambler, it's electric start and has a disc up front.

[tigertim20]

So went to work this morning at 7am, in the truck and off to cromwell. we were supposed to be doing a delivery, and the boss said I could pick the bike up on the way home.
We got to just past roxburgh, and got a call. 'turn around and come back, theres been a fuck up, delivery isnt today..... '
"OK" I said "but we are just 30 minutes away from alexandra . . ."
"Yeah yeah, go get your bike then come home then"

Since I wasnt the driver today, work consisted of 7 hours or so of sleeping in a truck, to pick up my new project. Thats a win right there!

anyways, Looks like mine is/was the same as your mystic, in colour at least, until someone painted it black, will have to take care of that cos it looks hideous. Mine is also a drum brake front, but ti seems to operate ok, so thats ok.

Here are a few photos I took when i got it home tonight, its missing a foot peg, and some electrical components, the inside of the tank is a bit rusty, rear tyre is fucked but i think I have one in the shed that will fit, and Im sure there will be plenty else wrong with it. the throttle seems very tight, but it does kick over and has compression, that about all Ive done so far.

here are some pics.
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[tigertim20]

should have also asked Mystic, do you have any GN or DR spares in case I come across something I need?
happy to pay beer/money etc if you have something i need.

[unstuck]

Looking at the photos of those 250s, the only difference with my 200 I can see is the tank, and mine is disk front, I have a spare 200 too.:msn-wink:

[tigertim20]

you got any spares unstuck?

[unstuck]

I have, thank you.:msn-wink:

[unstuck]

Let me know what you need and I will see what I can do, I know there is no spare frame or side covers and I had to make my own front sprocket cover. I think everything else is still there though.:Punk:

[Mystic13]

should have also asked Mystic, do you have any GN or DR spares in case I come across something I need?
happy to pay beer/money etc if you have something i need.

A spare o ring chain you can have / 520 100 link. low km's one piece. I have no other spares that would apply to your bike.

There are a fair few folks around with 250 spares. I was just talking with a guy that buys them does them up and sells them. He's owned about 50 of them passing through. I tend to biff stuff that has no value, sell what does or give it away. I don't have the room to hold stuff. The shed is chocka already.

I need to decide if I'll keep the 250 or DR350 with the blown motor. (actually cooked for lack of oil) I have a spare 350 motor so that job should be easy.

[Mystic13]

Looking at the photos of those 250s, the only difference with my 200 I can see is the tank, and mine is disk front, I have a spare 200 too.:msn-wink:
So do you have a spare front wheel with disc.... Tim may want to talk with you.

Tim are you going for the full rebuild in mint condition or just get it running and road worthy?

If you're doing the full rebuild there's a section on this forum somewhere for that stuff.

[unstuck]

So do you have a spare front wheel with disc.... Tim may want to talk with you.

Tim are you going for the full rebuild in mint condition or just get it running and road worthy?

If you're doing the full rebuild there's a section on this forum somewhere for that stuff.

Yep, spare wheel with disc here.:msn-wink:

[Mystic13]

Yep, spare wheel with disc here.:msn-wink:

Can you deliver to Dunedin....

Tim would benefit from changing the front a little. Although it seems he has other stuff on his hands.

[tigertim20]

yeah the last DR250 I had was the disc front, haha, I actually remember hacking up car brake pads with a hacksaw, and drilling an extra hole in them so I didnt have to buy brake pads for it (hey, I was 14!)

Good to know what other bits are out there. Its a couple weeks before I can start to spend any coin, but at this point, the plan is to get some elcetrical components, and see if I can get it to run. At that point, I will strip it, repaint the frame, and generally tidy it up. Im not going for a showroom condition type rebuild, as economics dont allow that, plus, Im not a real patient person haha. Ill get it to run first, and then ask/search/nag for parts as funds become available

as for road legal, i dont know if its ever been on the road before or not, so I should run the VIN through Carjam and see if there is any history on it or not. I would possibly look into doing that, as if i decided to keep it, it would be handy to have a commuter/dirt toy and leave the big toy for the big rides and trackdays

[unstuck]

The one I have is as rough as they come but everything works, looks on an old tralie like that are not important to me and I would just scratch it up on the trails I like anyway. But, yeah if you need something let me know.:Punk:

[tigertim20]

The one I have is as rough as they come but everything works, looks on an old tralie like that are not important to me and I would just scratch it up on the trails I like anyway. But, yeah if you need something let me know.:Punk:

I will do!!!!!!!

[tigertim20]

still looking for a manual if anyone has a link to one, havent found one yet

[unstuck]

I couldn't find a front sprocket guard for mine, the last on was fucked, so I made this one up today.Couldn't be arsed getting the spray gun out to paint it and all the paint brushes have been used in the parts cleaner, so I painted it with my finger.:facepalm: I really am a cheap cunt.:Punk:

[tigertim20]

haha, Unstuck, I often go without a front sprocket cover on dirtbikes, I know I shouldnt, but fuckit.

OK, I actually did something with the old beasty today.
I whipped off the LHS engine cover (stator housing) and had a look. I think there is something missing, but Im not sure, and my camera isnt working atm so i cant post a pic, if someone has a photo of the DR engine with the LH cover and stator removed that would be quite handy, otherwise Ill try google images . . .
The oil that was in it was sludgy as fuck, there might be more work in this that i had thought, but hey, shit happens.
I also wrote down the frame and chassis numbers to do a search on them. I dont think its ever been on the road, it has the brackets to take headlight, but no switchblocks, and the entire electrical system consists of, well, fuckall, especially without the stator and assosciated wiring.

I believe that the G250 stator is a match, and I have found them brand new, and very cheap - its chinese, but its alot cheaper than buying a second hand one, and it means that I can use it to see if I can get spark without losing too much coin if this whole things turns out to be a lost cause.

Tomorrow if i get around to it, i will check the timing, and maybe pull the carb off ready to be cleaned out and given a good check over.

[tigertim20]

Havent done fuckall with this in a few days.
The electrical bits that Unstuck hooked me up with turned up today.
sadly, the stator doesnt mate into the engine casing, (it fits fine inside the magneto though) so i have to figure out
A) can I modify the stator to fit into the engine casing so i can bolt the engine casing on and have it work
or
B) If I put the stator I have into the engine casing it came off (or one off the same model) will the whole casing and stator unit bolt directly on to the engine?

As far as I know thus far, the answer to B should be a YES, but I need to confirm, given recent events, I cant afford to waste money on things that dont eventuate! Im pretty sure the engine layout and casing didnt change fuckall, just minor internal differences.

I thought I should at least try and do something semi productive so i whipped the carb off, and gave the outside of it a quick clean. It could do with a bit more of a clean up, but that will have to wait untill I can figure out this electrical stuff first.
Heres some pics of the before and after of the carb.

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[tigertim20]

this fell by the wayside the last few weeks, but with the CR sold, it looks like I should have some time for this.
and as it happens, a little sumthin' sumthin' turned up today!
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[Rhubarb]

Hi Tigertim20

Sorry to hijack your thread.


Given your recent experience with the DR250, how does this one look?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=492194518

I know it's a bit newer than yours but every piece of advice/info I can get helps.

I've just bought my son a TTR125 and I want a simple 'bush basher' so I can go riding with him.

I was looking for a mid 90's XR250 but quite like the DR's as well.

I've owned 4 or 5 XR's and always had a good run with them.
I've also had 4 Suzuki's which have treated me well.

Thanks for your help.

[Shadow hawk]

I have a 1985 dr250s was rough but did the top end and cannot get the cam aligned. There seems to be no timing marks on it and the engine isn't pulling gas from the carb. Have cleaned the carb new boot engine side and was running but losing power. Adjusted timing chain and now won't even start.

Any idea how to get the timing corrected or if it may be valve causing part of this?