More world atomic explosions and tests than I realised. Bloody hell!

[oldrider]

I found this a little slow but interesting none the less! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LLCF7vPanrY :shit:

God help us when all the other nutter's start firing them off too! :facepalm:

[Subike]

first saw that about the time of the quakes here in chch
a bit scary really.
and agree if tem other fells start, the cracks will start too

[mashman]

God help us when all the other nutter's start firing them off too! :facepalm:

If they're gonna do it, I wish they'd hurry up and get the fuck on with it... the suspense is killing me <_<

[Mental Trousers]

Watch the Trinity movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114728/). Scary stuff.

[mashman]

Watch the Trinity movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114728/). Scary stuff.

I saw that the other night on the History Channel... some stunning explosions but FFS :facepalm:

[unstuck]

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[Kickaha]

I'm more worried about the Atomic bombs that they've managed to lose

[gunnyrob]

It certainly is interesting to look at the atomic bombing museums in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Obviously the cities have been rebuilt, but they have preserved some areas as artefacts. Nagasaki particularly reminds me of the hutt valley. Ground Zero is the blueish statue to the left of the photo, on the centreline.

What brings it into perspective is looking at the photos in the Peace Museum of the Schoolgirls doing bayonet practice on the morning of the bombing. Partial justification perhaps, but hopefully nukes never get used in anger again.

Speaking of Christchurch, check out this animation of the earthquakes in 2011. ChCh is 21 Feb, but check out the earthquake that kicked off the Tsunami in mid March......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a--NC4Nong

[Winston001]

If you are interested in this stuff, its worth knowing about the Castle Bravo test on Bikini Atoll in 1954. This was an early test of the hydrogen bomb as compared with the atom bomb, which is what was used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hydrogen bombs use fusion instead of fission (which is what operates nuclear reactors), are cleaner and vastly more destructive.

So Castle Bravo is all set to go. The reactive isotope is lithium deuteride 6. Mixed in was lithium deuteride 7 which is stable and is part of the yield when you run these isotopes through the cyclotrons. No problem.

The explosion was planned to be 5 megatons. Big, interesting, and safe enough to watch.

Not exactly...

The explosion was 15 megatons, nearly sank observing ships, destroyed most of the data instruments, and killed some Japanese fishermen over the horizon. It remains the largest atomic test ever conducted by the USA.

One interesting consequence - Neville Shute wrote "On the Beach" which is a sombre effective novel about the world just after nuclear exchanges.




And all because lithium deuteride 7 changes to 6 when the atomic energies are high enough. Who knew...:no:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo

[240]

Just wait till the fucken Muslims get the bomb then we are all fucked..... real quick.You can't reason or frighten people who want to sacrifice themselves.

[Pussy]

Always liked this scene....


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[superman]

Just wait till the fucken Muslims get the bomb then we are all fucked..... real quick.You can't reason or frighten people who want to sacrifice themselves.

:facepalm:

*fundamentalist Muslims*

Geeze be PC about it instead of generalising all 1.6 billion of them into suicidal maniacs.

[oldrider]

If you can sit through the whole thing, it does make you gasp at how many tests have been carried out though! :facepalm:

I was alive before this all started and frankly I had no idea just how many there have been .... left me feeling a bit numb! :mellow:

[Swoop]

Also a few comments here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/127124-Nuclear-detonation-timeline-quot-1945-1998-quot?highlight=nuclear+explosions).

[Winston001]

Just wait till the fucken Muslims get the bomb then we are all fucked..... real quick.You can't reason or frighten people who want to sacrifice themselves.

Too late. Pakistan.

[jim.cox]

http://www.zcommunications.org/FCKFiles/image/may08zmoimages/Wuerker-Madman-ZMag0508.gif

A blatant post swipe from elsewhere on KB

[oldrider]

Also a few comments here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/127124-Nuclear-detonation-timeline-quot-1945-1998-quot?highlight=nuclear+explosions).

:Oops: Sorry .... repost! :o Didn't see it last time! (Whatever happened to Sniper? He kept us on our toes) :spanking:

[haydes55]

Ever wondered what causes global warming? Pretty sure those bombs are very hot.

[LBD]

And it looked like everyone was testing in their own back yards.....except the English and French:angry:

[Tigadee]

.....except the English and French

Bastards! :angry:

[Oscar]

And it looked like everyone was testing in their own back yards.....except the English and French:angry:


Er...what part of the USA is the Marshall Islands in again?

[5150]

As certain famous actress said in a certain famous movie? "I am not scared of the people who hold 10 nuclear bombs, but I am terified of the person who only has one" :shit:

[oneofsix]

As certain famous actress said in a certain famous move? "I am not scared of the people who hold 10 nuclear bombs, but I am terified of the person who only has one" :shit:

Not a bad statement if you live somewhere they are likely to target with one. It is the ones with a few to spare that might overload the atmosphere or lob one this way and the way they react to the people with one that are a cause for immediate concern down here.

[5150]

Not a bad statement if you live somewhere they are likely to target with one. It is the ones with a few to spare that might overload the atmosphere or lob one this way and the way they react to the people with one that are a cause for immediate concern down here.

True that.

Or you can use the "Nuke em' till they glow, so you can shoot em' in the dark" mentality :innocent:

[LBD]

Er...what part of the USA is the Marshall Islands in again?

Point...missed that one...but the French and Poms never tested in their own back yards...the Seppos did....not that it makes much difference

[haydes55]

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/fo0505_nuclearweaponsw25001.gif

Check this out for perspective

[Macontour]

I read a book years ago called America Ground Zero by Carole Gallagher and it was all about the nuclear testing done at places like White Sands in New Mexico. The Local people were told all sorts of lies and suffered all sorts of health problems as sometimes the winds would change direction and the fallout would drift over the towns.

All sorts of medical problems from still births to birth defects to cancers to dead or sick farm animals were way out of proportion compared to other parts of the country.

The fields would be covered in radioactive dust and the cattle would eat there and the people would eat the cattle or drink the milk and get sick.

The Government workers would establish a "safe" Geiger Counter reading then check after a test. If the readings were higher than the "safe" exposure level, they would just decide that a new higher level was "safe" and so it would go on.

Terrible what they did to their own people, admittedly in some part through ignorance.

[mashman]

I read a book years ago called America Ground Zero by Carole Gallagher and it was all about the nuclear testing done at places like White Sands in New Mexico. The Local people were told all sorts of lies and suffered all sorts of health problems as sometimes the winds would change direction and the fallout would drift over the towns.

All sorts of medical problems from still births to birth defects to cancers to dead or sick farm animals were way out of proportion compared to other parts of the country.

The fields would be covered in radioactive dust and the cattle would eat there and the people would eat the cattle or drink the milk and get sick.

The Government workers would establish a "safe" Geiger Counter reading then check after a test. If the readings were higher than the "safe" exposure level, they would just decide that a new higher level was "safe" and so it would go on.

Terrible what they did to their own people, admittedly in some part through ignorance.

You gotta test these things on someone :blink:... at the end of the day we need to be able to blow each other up, just in case like... WTF else is the human race good for?

[Mental Trousers]

Check this out for perspective

I thought those numbers were way off until I read it a bit closer. That pic only shows strategic nukes, it doesn't show tactical nukes. So it's missing a crapload of the US stuff and a fair chunk of the Russians.

[gunnyrob]

Don't forget that a lot of the soviet tests were done directly upwind of various siberian villages so they could study the long term effects.

Different era, different values

[Winston001]

Don't forget that a lot of the soviet tests were done directly upwind of various siberian villages so they could study the long term effects.

Different era, different values

Yeah dead right - forgive the pun. Plenty of A-bomb tests in the 1950s were watched by soldiers and scientists completely unaware they were too close. Marie Curie herself, the discoverer of radioactivity died from radium poisoning and we celebrate this great scientist. As we should.

There is a lot of nonsense generated about nuclear bombs and by association, nuclear reactors. Yes hydrogen bombs (fusion) are nasty. The devices exploded at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fission devices which translates to not much bang and lots of radioactive particles. The Chernobyl explosion and the Fukushima meltdown were fission reactions.

I was going to set out the staged effects of a nuclear bomb but lets leave that for another time. What is interesting is the real world. Plants and insects live today at the bomb sites in Japan as well as at Trinity Point in New Mexico. These places were predicted to be barren and sterile for hundreds of years but nature overcomes our direst predictions. Animals - indeed people, have returned to Chernobyl.

Radioactivity can be deadly but it can also be understood and literally washed away.

Be not afraid.