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p.dath
7th May 2012, 18:45
My bike is a 1999 Honda CBR600F4. The plastic fairings were getting a bit old. Lots of cracks had appeared over time, and every now and then I used to take the fairings off and get them plastic welded to prevent them turning into big cracks. But eventually one of the welds itself started to crack, so I decided it was time to replace the fairings.

Money was an issue. I eventually came across www.fairingsolutions.co.nz. The product was sourced from China, which made me a little concerned, but they did have a local presence (and one in Australia), including a local phone number.

My mechanical skills are low, but I have removed the fairings from my bike several times and I feel skilled enough to undertake the task. The web site did say a reasonably level of mechanical skill was required.

The landed insured cost for the fairings for my bike was about $800. The fairings are painted and logo'd. It said the delivery time was 3 to 4 weeks. It sounded reasonable, so I placed my order.
I felt reassured by their ordering system which sent me confirmation emails, and a link to a web site where I could track the progress of my order.

About 2 weeks into the order I shifted, and I had to notify them of a change in shipping address. I sent them an email and got no response after 5 days, so sent them another email. I got no response, so rang the number on the web site. I didn't manage to get hold of anyone but left a message. Reassuring they got back to me to say the address had been updated.

I kept checking the web portal for updates. After 3 weeks and no updates I thought I'd email asking for an update. I got no response after 3 days and sent another email. 3 days later the goods turned up. It had taken about 4 weeks to get the goods – which is what they said it would take. I still never got a response to my emails.


So overall I would rate their communication as poor. They were very slow to respond to emails, and I feel if I hadn't of phoned them that perhaps I would not have got a response at all.


The web site has a warning to notify them within 48 hours of any damage during shipping, so I decided to check the fairings that night. The box was quite big, and the contents look very well packed. Everything looked in good order. The manufacturing of the goods looked good.

Some of the colours were immediately noticeably different from the current fairings, but hey, I was replacing just about everything. And I'd have to live with the colour difference with the tank (about the only painted part not being replaced).

Included in the packaging was a screen. The web site made mention that a screen was not included, so 1 bonus point there. The web site also said the fairing fittings were not included. There was a small bag of assorted bolts and parts, so 1 bonus point there.

HOWEVER, the screen had a lot of scratches on it - and if I had been expecting a screen I would not have been happy with it. I would not want to fit a new screen with scratches all over it.

Also the paint finish of the goods was pretty average. There were lots of little marks. It looks to be like perhaps the paint had been handled before it was properly dry. Or perhaps someone had been rough after they were painted. You don't noticed the marks from 1m away, but you do notice them when you taking them out of the box inspecting the damage.


I didn't set to work putting the fairings on till the weekend. It probably took me 4 hours to strip the old fairings, and remove headlight, indicators, and all the little fastenings off the fairings and attach them to the new fairings.

Reassembly was a tad trickier. While the old fairings looked identical to the new fairings side by side, it was obvious putting the new fairings on that they were slightly out. The front wheel guard was what I would describe as a "force fit". I got the impression the fairing was too wide by the width of the paint - as I end up scraping a small amount off too be able to get them to fit in (I would now describe it as a very tight fit). But I think a tighter fit is better than a looser fit.

The fairings were drilled with holes everywhere that a hole was needed, but it looked like they used a single drill bit for the whole lot (this is probably an exaggeration but it felt like that). So I had to drill some holes out to a larger diameters, but this was a minor thing.
Some of the fittings that have bolts in them had to go into moulded plastic holes, so I had to run a tap and die into the plastic mouldings it to make a thread for the bolts.

While the existing fairings all fitted together flush the new ones have several small gaps. Some of it could be my fitting, but some of it is definitely due to the manufacturing.

While the old fairings sat nicely on the bike and the fasteners just held them in place I had to force and flex the new fairings into place and quickly put the fasteners in. I wouldn't want to take the fairings of again (which I'll have to partly for the next oil change ...) because I'm scared they might fling themselves off. :lol:


So overall I think there communication was below average. The manufacturing of the plastic parts looks initially good but lots of the parts where out by small amounts, and the finish could have been better.

Overall I would use them again for an old second hand bike like mine – where an average fitting with an average finish was okay. I wouldn’t use them on a newer bike or if I wanted a well presented result.

JimO
7th May 2012, 19:08
The product was sourced from China
nuff said..

Icemaestro
7th May 2012, 19:28
I recently ordered some for my f2/f3 from parts4bike off ebay, was actually really impressed with them - finish really good, as you said I need to drill out the holes a bit more so that the fairings don't need to be 'bent and flexed'. All the fixings already had been tapped though. Do the f4 fairings have any 1/4 turn fasteners? I still haven't got any U bolts or 1/4 turn fasteners to go on the inspection window :-P.

Oh and if you do go the ebay route - get them to email you the copy of the fake invoice they put with the box to supply customs to get you out of the gst ;-). I paid 750 all up for fairings, tank cover, mirrors and double bubble screen (all new condition) including the customs charge. they had very good email communication - got back to me within 24h, and customised my order with the mirrors and type of screen, and did me a deal for dealing outside of ebay ;-)

p.dath
8th May 2012, 13:26
... Do the f4 fairings have any 1/4 turn fasteners? I still haven't got any U bolts or 1/4 turn fasteners to go on the inspection window :-P.

Negative. No 1/4 turn fasteners that I know of.

Asher
8th May 2012, 14:32
Seems to be that you have to be lucky to buy them off someone with a good mold. I wouldnt buy Chinese fairings unless i knew someone who brought the exact ones had a good result.

Katman
9th May 2012, 18:31
With Just Fairings in Hamilton only a phone call away I'm surprised that anyone would deal with the shit fairings that are coming in from China.

Icemaestro
9th May 2012, 18:33
I looked at just fairings - 800$ for the fronts unpainted. I had an f2 cowl on my bike before hand, good quality, but for 750 delivered painted and with screen mirrors and tank cover....money had to decide.

Katman
9th May 2012, 18:54
Ya gets what ya pays for.

98tls
9th May 2012, 19:11
Ya gets what ya pays for.

True but the stuffs getting better,GSXR carbon guard from China cost fuck all (delivery included) fits well looks as good as any made here,levers from china fit well,work well cost fuck all,bar-end mirror the same.That aside i can only say great things re Glen at Just Fairings after much persuading he made me a Carbon hugger over the Xmas break and his work is top notch.

Icemaestro
9th May 2012, 21:55
Yes you get what you pay for - but I don't believe that the quality rises at an even rate to what you pay - I would rather pay what I did for my quality, than pay 1600 + painting of 800 or go new OEM (if I actually had that option) for the cost of my firstborn child (I believe about 1000USD/square Metre?)...

tigertim20
9th May 2012, 22:37
you get what you pay for vs you pay for the logo.
thats a never ending argument there.

It depends on the item, Ive bought many chinese made items, bike related and non bike related and had nearly all of them be great, Ive had US, NZ UK and Jap made stuff be absolute shit.

Marmoot
9th May 2012, 22:53
The product was sourced from China

Oooh, you mean like iPhones?

raziel1983
11th May 2012, 14:59
Oooh, you mean like Everything?

Fixed :bleh:


Slight exaggeration

Katman
11th May 2012, 19:18
It depends on the item, Ive bought many chinese made items, bike related and non bike related and had nearly all of them be great, Ive had US, NZ UK and Jap made stuff be absolute shit.

China seems intent on flooding the world market with cheap shit.

tigertim20
11th May 2012, 19:49
China seems intent on flooding the world market with cheap shit.

its not ALL shit though.
Twas a time when your beloved Katana was a piece of asian shit because it wasnt built from a place more recognized.
Take a chance now and then, if the item isnt great, you havent lost much trying something new.

Im yet to see independent reviews comparing performance reliability, integrity, and strength between recognized brands, and the chinese stuff. a side by side test of say Pazzos, and the a selection of chinese levers, and by test, I dont just mean a short ride an conclusion on preference, I mean test what it takes to break them, ease of install, etc etc.

I think ill go with my own experience on the matter, rather than just listening to the ignorant people who refuse to give the stuff a go, yet feel justified in automatically labeling it 'shit' because of its origin.

Katman
11th May 2012, 20:19
Twas a time when your beloved Katana was a piece of asian shit because it wasnt built from a place more recognized.


No, by the time my bike was built the Japanese were recognised as the best in the world at manufacturing motorcycles.

Yes, Japan's rebuilding after the war was carried out under the cloud of worldwide condemnation of "Jap crap". They realised that they weren't going to get anywhere by continuing to produce crap and set about improving their product.

Luckily for the Chinese, their introduction to the worldwide market comes at a time when many societies are blinded by 'cheap'.

The more people that condemn it as "Chinese shit", the sooner they'll wake up and realise that the best way forward doesn't lie in fast profit from sub-standard product.

Katman
11th May 2012, 20:24
And take note, I'm not talking about overseas companies having their product manufactured in Chinese factories, I'm talking specifically about Chinese manufacturers.

Quality control is a foreign concept to them.

tigertim20
11th May 2012, 20:53
And take note, I'm not talking about overseas companies having their product manufactured in Chinese factories, I'm talking specifically about Chinese manufacturers.

Quality control is a foreign concept to them.

no it isnt, often the very same factory produces both parts for foreign companies, as well as their own cheaper version.
the foreign customer defines a particular spec, and their own version is different - plus they save by copying/using the exact same tooling in some cases

Kickaha
11th May 2012, 21:05
no it isnt, often the very same factory produces both parts for foreign companies, as well as their own cheaper version.
the foreign customer defines a particular spec, and their own version is different - plus they save by copying/using the exact same tooling in some cases

Their own version is normally crap, without having your own people in place doing the quality control you're normally wasting your time getting anything made there

Pussy
11th May 2012, 21:16
Yes, Japan's rebuilding after the war was carried out under the cloud of worldwide condemnation of "Jap crap". They realised that they weren't going to get anywhere by continuing to produce crap and set about improving their product.



Dead right! I remember many years ago people shying away from products with "Made in Japan" written on them.
Nowadays, I just about WON'T buy something unless it HAS got "Made in Japan" on it!

tigertim20
11th May 2012, 21:21
Their own version is normally crap, without having your own people in place doing the quality control you're normally wasting your time getting anything made there

that comment would have carried far more truth a few years ago, but their stuff is getting better.
Its all very well to make comments about some of the stuff coming out of china, but the same can be said of goods produced an any other country, they all have examples of good vs shit.
I agree theres plenty of shit coming from china, there is also however, a growing number of good quality items being produced there too.

Yank companies want stuff, they do all the design, and decide on specs, the ring the chinks and say hey, make us this. The chinese make it, then send it all the way to the USA where it then gets distributed blah blah.

The chinese then say, fuckit, make some of our own using the info already supplied, and using the same tooling etc, theyve cut a huge amount of R and D costs by copying, and saved more by using the same tooling in the same factory, and sell direct from factories saving on shipping stuff back and forth.
All those opportunities to save costs get passed on to the buyer so the lower price doesnt always automatically mean the item is shit.
They are learning, and the quality is improving.

Im curious though, in the last two years, how many times have you personally purchased, used, and tested a 'good' item, and a similar or same item from china, Ive spent a shiteload on various bits and pieces for multiple bikes in the last couple years with lots of rebuilds and projects going on, and my personal experience has shown that, provided you are careful and do some checks to see exactly where the item has come from, you can save a shit load of money, and get items that are at least equal quality to the rest of the world from china.

Pussy
11th May 2012, 21:25
I'd still think twice about buying milk powder from China.....

tigertim20
11th May 2012, 21:46
Their own version is normally crap, without having your own people in place doing the quality control you're normally wasting your time getting anything made there


I'd still think twice about buying milk powder from China.....

the man has an irrefutable point here

Zedder
11th May 2012, 21:56
I'd still think twice about buying milk powder from China.....

Interestingly enough, the Sanlu milk scandal has been a catalyst for changes in Chinese attitude toward quality assurance.

Things would have been vastly different if, like Japan in the 1950s, they had the benefit of someone like Dr Edward Demming driving the entire process with Government support early on. It took Japan losing World War 2 to make that happen though.

Katman
11th May 2012, 21:57
The chinese then say, fuckit, make some of our own using the info already supplied, and using the same tooling etc, theyve cut a huge amount of R and D costs by copying, and saved more by using the same tooling in the same factory, and sell direct from factories saving on shipping stuff back and forth.


You forgot the fact that they generally choose to use the lowest quality raw materials.

nzspokes
11th May 2012, 22:40
no it isnt, often the very same factory produces both parts for foreign companies, as well as their own cheaper version.
the foreign customer defines a particular spec, and their own version is different - plus they save by copying/using the exact same tooling in some cases

Agreed. We see the same product now thats made in China which is being sold with multiple brand names on it. On it all good product for the most part. But getting anything made in Japan now is next to impossible due to lack of factory time available.

We also get a lot of product out of Taiwan and the quality is awesome.

nzspokes
11th May 2012, 22:40
the man has an irrefutable point here

Yes fair call.