Minginui - Matawai - Motu Midwinter Madness Ride 28-29 July 2012

[clint640]

The world famous MMMMM Ride is on again 28-29 July

Register on the calendar here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=3006&day=2012-7-28

The ride will kick off from the Rangitaiki Tavern on the Napier-Taupo Rd Saturday morning at 8am sharp. There is food, beer, basic cabins & camping there for those who want to arrive Friday night. Phone them on 07 384 2803 to book yourself a bed.

More comfy accomodation, & extra bunks are also available 5km back down the road towards Taupo at the Rangitaiki Lodge. They have a couple of nice motel units, some tidy cabins & a bunkhouse. Call them on 07 384 2800 to book. As the Lodge bar usually closes at 8 the main Friday night gathering/meal/beers will be back at the pub.

8am Saturday we will leave the Pub & head North along the Waipunga Rd. The washed out crossing is now an easy ford doable on any adv bike. We will use the cornerman system through the forest to Minginui. Weather & time permitting there will be an optional short challenge section for those with light bikes & decent tyres.

If anyone wants to join in at Minginui be at the Minginui Road turnoff on SH38 at 9:30am. We will stop in at the Waikaremoana Motor Camp for a coffee & fuel.

We will then continue on from Waikaremoana, to Wairoa (if you need gas), Tiniroto Pub for some refreshments & a few backroads to Matawai. I will post up a route sheet & GPS tracks so people can do their own pace Minginui - Matawai & have the choice of bypassing Wairoa on backroads if time & fuel range permits. You need 230km fuel range to bypass Wairoa. I'm adding in another easy gravel optional section after Tiniroto for those making good time too.

At Matawai the pub is now booked out, but the campground over the road has heaps of bunks, ph 06 867 5016 or 027 445 8755, or this place: http://www.nzstays.co.nz/East-cape-region/Matawai/Farm-Cottage-6061.aspx 15km away. The pub does dinner, they might do a buffet this year to cut down the wait for a meal, watch this space for details.

On the Sunday we'll head out to Matawai then off down the Motu Rd to Opotiki, From there the route is routesheeted again via some highway & a few more backroads back to my place at Rotoiti.

Any trailer scum planning to attend are welcome to drop their car & trailer at my place for the weekend.

Remember this is a MIDWINTER ride. Based on previous MMMMM rides there is a 100% chance it will rain, a 50% chance of snow, an 80% chance it will be bloody cold & a 100% chance that all those mad enough to do the whole ride will have lots of fun. The main route is all tar & gravel roads, nothing technical, do able on any adventure bike with any tyres. Some of the gravel is often fairly rough & muddy though so you will enjoy the ride more with some knobbyish rubber, particularly if you are a n00b or on a bigger bike.

Distances:

Taupo - Rangitaiki Pub - 35 km (no fuel)
Rangitaiki Pub - Minginui - 75km (no fuel)
Minginui - Waikaremoana 70km (thats 180km from Taupo - pack extra gas if you've got a small tank)
Waikaremoana - Wairoa 60km (Waikaremoana - Matawai on Ohuka Rd etc 230km)
Wairoa - Matawai 180km
Matawai - Opotiki 75km

Safety: This ride has been getting fairly big & it's hard to keep track of everybody. There will be a sweep rider(s) on the main route who will attempt to assist if you have a problem. If you are riding with mates please check that everyone has made it through each stage. If you are on your own you can note down your name, rego, next of kin & ph numbers on a card or bit of paper & give it to me at the start of the day, then collect it back from me at the end so we know you're not still out there. If you do have to bail & don't see the sweep riders call the pub & leave a message.

Check back on this post closer to the day as more info will be added.

Cheers
Clint

[Rosie]

In. :Punk:

Now I just need to figure out how to make the GPS tracks :mellow:

[nic]

In :woohoo:

I'll probably head over to Minginui from Rotorua on Saturday morning :scooter:

[Box'a'bits]

Bugger me that was quick. Just called the pub to book a room & the top floor is gone. They are already down into the annex...

Bart & Wade, I've booked you 2 bunks.

I'll probably stay at Napier again Friday (Westshore, probably), & come up to Rangitaiki on Sat morning

I'm coming.

[DR Girl]

I'll do the Saturday as usual :Punk::wings::niceone:

[Shewolf]

at the risk of sounding like a cowboy....yeehaa

[pete-blen]

Why not..
Got to be in Auck on/around the 24th july..
brother's 50th ...
So I could trailer the XR..
If it all works out .. I'm in...

[Box'a'bits]

Just talked to Essie at the Matawai Hotel again. The Hotel is now full.

[Taz]

In - pending confirmation of leave from work :)

[suzieq]

In pending confirmation of leave from work :)

We are in....................

S Q

[That looks like fun]

Friday off work arranged :shifty:
Bed at lodge and Pub arranged :niceone:
Best I go for a bike ride :whistle:
IN :wings:

[Cary]

Think i'll Tiger it this time, (heated grips....:cold:)

[tri boy]

Me n Kanny are in Raro at that time, so sadly we have to take a rain check.
But will be thinking of you lot as we snorkle in warm water, and relax under a shady palm tree.:niceone:

[Gman71]

I'm in :)



It wasn't me. It was like that when I found it. Honest.

[suzieq]

We are in....................

S Q


Hi Clint, can you plse add two extra in for me also

We will do the SAT ride

I have a new lady rider from Taupo and also husband Jim will accompany us also


Thanks
S Q

[Taz]

Leave and accommodation booked. I'll see you all there.

[GPS MAN]

Looking forward to it: provided I make it back from the States Today!

[socialites]

Me n Kanny are in Raro at that time, so sadly we have to take a rain check.
But will be thinking of you lot as we snorkle in warm water, and relax under a shady palm tree.:niceone:

Amanda and I also in Raro at that time, so I to sadly will have to take a rain check, however, I cannot say that I will be thinking of anyone back here in wet and cold NZ, but I can say, have a good ride and enjoy. Hahahaha

[K slider]

Hi Clint I'm in provided I can get another leave pass from her in doors, Just got back from 3 weeks riding around Morocco an southern Spain.

[Gman71]

Just spoke to the bloke over the road from the Matawai pub with the bunkbeds.

we wants us to consolidate and send him one list of who will be there on the night, sounds like it's too much trouble to book us in individually.:no:

It's $30 for the night, includes showers and kitchen. bring your own bedding.

anyone else going. pm me if you are and i will sort it out.


$30 a night in matawai? for a bunk? it better be flash.........:shit:

[MXNUT]

for a bunk? it better be flash.........:shit:

It aint flash at all.:no::no::no: Converted shipping container with a torch in the roof for lights.

I have already booked accomodation, but for those who have not i would try the link that Clint has on the 1st post for the house in Matawai.
Says it will sleep 7


Edit.... i see the link is now gone, place must be booked perhaps ??

[Box'a'bits]

One other alternative is to zip back to Gisborne for the night. I think a couple of Wgtn people are thinking of doing that. Of course that will mean that you'll definitely miss out on the saturday night bullshit sessions, but...:baby:

[Gman71]

It aint flash at all.:no::no::no: Converted shipping container with a torch in the roof for lights.

Oh shit really? Well nothing on book a Bach, no surprises there.

Tent...?.mmmmmm....Snow did someone say??....maybe just tough it out in the container.

[clint640]

Just spoke to the bloke over the road from the Matawai pub with the bunkbeds.

we wants us to consolidate and send him one list of who will be there on the night, sounds like it's too much trouble to book us in individually.:no:

:

Unbelievable! He's charging about twice as much as it's worth & he can't even be bothered doing bookings! Thanks for taking that on Gman.

I did send a msg to my mate in Matawai enquiring about other accom options around the village but I haven't heard back, I'll give him a call over the weekend.

That link is still live for the farm cottage, not sure if anyone has booked it yet though, if so let me know & I'll remove the link so they don't get hassled.

Cheers
Clint

[Crisis management]

I'm in.... I'm riding the R80 (on road tyres, subject to a test ride in mud on sunday) so feel free to give expressions of interest in the BMW pushing game, I should only need three or so people at a time so there will be plenty of time to get your own riding in.
Riding down friday so I will be in touch with Gman and anyone else interested, west coast to Pio Pio then thru Pureora to Taupo, has anyone saved / got a spare bed at Rangitikei? Camping at Matawai, I assume there is somewhere flat and not under water near the pub.







My one aim will be to not get passed by Rosie this year.

[Taz]

I'm in.... I'm riding the R80 (on road tyres, subject to a test ride in mud on sunday) so feel free to give expressions of interest in the BMW pushing game, I should only need three or so people at a time so there will be plenty of time to get your own riding in.
Riding down friday so I will be in touch with Gman and anyone else interested, west coast to Pio Pio then thru Pureora to Taupo, has anyone saved / got a spare bed at Rangitikei? Camping at Matawai, I assume there is somewhere flat and not under water near the pub.







My one aim will be to not get passed by Rosie this year.

Gonna have to take the super heavy duty rain gear now. It'll be good to see ya Ian :)

[Rosie]

My one aim will be to not get passed by Rosie this year.

I'll probably be riding TEC, so I won't be allowed to pass you :(

[NordieBoy]

I'll probably be riding TEC, so I won't be allowed to pass you :(

But you will be allowed to come up behind him and tootle your horn melodiously.

[Gman71]

Ok, since the revelation of the shipping container with a torch, and the fact I found a pic with 4 inches of snow outside the matawai pub, I have searched for other 'options'-

New option:

There is a Luxury Lodge / B&B/Homestay thingy over the road. I have spoken to them. usually $165 dinner/bed/breakfast.
Have said there may be a few takers, and we probably wont need dinner, assuming the pub will provide that.
So now the rate is $100 including a breakfast, and by the sounds of it it will be quite nice. "Luxury B&B" has such a nicer ring to it than "Shipping container with torch in roof for light"
Also heard last time, campground forgot to open toilets, few problems etc last time, and owner may be away at the time. Emphasis on word "away"

They only have 4 beds ( i have booked 2 of them) so 2 left, but the lady said if others aren't that fussy, they can work something out- so maybe matresses, camps stretchers will be on offer...?

again- happy to co-ordinate this as well- 2 have already stuck their hands up for the container/bunks, will take bookings for the B&B as well and see what we can sort out.

[K slider]

Sorry Clint the boss tells me I'm in India that week so I miss out yet again.

Cheers Pete.

[circuit1]

Think i'll Tiger it this time, (heated grips....:cold:)

Pussy, need a bit more speed down the straights mate, I'll have to bring the fcr carb and pipe over from Aussi then

[kiwipeet]

I think... But as im a bit slow I'll need to book a bed at Rangitaiki... might just do the Saturday and then bail.

[.chris]

I am mentally in for this ride, I have my heated grips installed (which has been my very poor excuse for not coming other years).

Being this late on the accommodation front I guess I am going to be tenting it, or maybe I can find some floor space somewhere. Either way I shall be prepared.

Will join the AK crew for the trip down on friday if the timing works.

[paturoa]

I think I'll cash up some domestic credit, seeing as my plans for a trip to the brass fell through. Not been before, but looks like good fun!

[Waihou Thumper]

Maybe a 650 strom etc.Can't go wrong there. Seems like they have a great following here and USA, EU too. The Wee over the bigger brother?

[paturoa]

I'm looking forward to it. Might be the last adv ride for the 640? May look at something better for 2 up rides. Maybe a 650 strom etc.


Can't go wrong there. Seems like they have a great following here and USA, EU too. The Wee over the bigger brother?

Got a favourable response when I braoched the topic of going on this ride. Taking my wee, see u there.

[Night Falcon]

I am mentally in for this ride, I have my heated grips installed (which has been my very poor excuse for not coming other years).

would love to join you guys and gals on the chilly bin adventure but unfortuneately the 690 dosen't have heated grips :whistle:

[pomgolian]

Hi Gman hows the bookings going for the container accomodation ?

[bart]

I have a mate who may possibly tag along. Any spare beds left?

[Gman71]

Hi Gman hows the bookings going for the container accomodation ?

The shipping containers at this point are totally free. After very bad reviews.

However the 'luxury B&B' opposite (?) the pub has 5 confirmed bookings of a possible 6 spots available (maybe more if floor, stretchers etc are acceptable)

Feel free to stick you hand up for a container berth.

[Gman71]

Update. Beds all gone at the B&B.
Space available for others to 'crash there' (price to be advised)
Breakfast on offer also to anyone interested on the Sunday morning.
Price for 'crash and breakfast' and 'breakfast only' probably available when numbers firm up.

[paturoa]

What is the story with tenting on Friday and Sat nights?

EDIT": Does the pub allow camping?

[JATZ]

What is the story with tenting on Friday and Sat nights?

EDIT": Does the pub allow camping?

That's what I was wondering... I'm not commiting at this stage, but I'm thinking seriously of making the trip north.
It's a ride on my "to do" list

[clint640]

The truly hardcore can tent at the campground no problem, it's very close to the pub. You could call the pub & ask about camping there. The pub did us a pretty good brekky last time.

Jatz, if you are thinking of coming up you are welcome to the bed in the shed at my place if you want to come stay before/after.

Cheers
Clint

[GSers]

I'm looking forward to it. Might be the last adv ride for the 640? May look at something better for 2 up rides. Maybe a 650 strom etc.

Hay Taz you had the ultimate 2 up bike why did you sell it:mad::mad:
GSers

[GSers]

What is the story with tenting on Friday and Sat nights?

EDIT": Does the pub allow camping?

Thats probably my plan tent it on the Saturday Night at least a motel in Taupo sounds like the go for Friday night. I will confirm closer to the day and the suspect weather forecast.
GSers

[paturoa]

Thats probably my plan tent it on the Saturday Night at least a motel in Taupo sounds like the go for Friday night. I will confirm closer to the day and the suspect weather forecast.
GSers

Good idea for Taupo on Friday night depending on the weather. If it is wet and drops below zero the road thru to the pub could be off my list of fun things to do early Sat morning

[Box'a'bits]

Thats probably my plan tent it on the Saturday Night at least a motel in Taupo sounds like the go for Friday night. I will confirm closer to the day and the suspect weather forecast.
GSers
We'll probably overnight in Napier, then ride up saturday morning. Did that 2010. Was pretty icey just before the forestry turnoff. :wacko:

[GSers]

Good idea for Taupo on Friday night depending on the weather. If it is wet and drops below zero the road thru to the pub could be off my list of fun things to do early Sat morning

Last time I did it it was freezing the trip from Taupo to the pub wa OK it was that Bl--dy cold ice was forming on the front of your jacket the 950 KTM's where running funny (icing up the carbs) but a steady pace out to the pub was no problem people had come over from Napier the same morning. The worst part was the first creek crossing going into the forest (ICE) caught a few out.
Should be good.
GSers

[bart]

We'll probably overnight in Napier, then ride up saturday morning. Did that 2010. Was pretty icey just before the forestry turnoff. :wacko:

Cold is an understatement for that ride over the hill from Napier. I think my piss froze before it hit the ground.

Last year wasn't so bad.

[Horney1]

Gidday Clint et al,


I'll most likely be in. I'll be carrying my bivvy or small tent. I'll see what the camping ground has to offer on Saturday night or might just rough it somewhere (only problem with that is missing out on the beers & BS!). If someone wants to make up numbers/ reduce costs at other accom I'm open to ideas. I want to stay at the Rangatik on the Friday this year (no, not tenting if I can help it :cold: ). Yep, I'll make some phone calls sometime soon. Hmmmmm, new front rubber, new chain n sprockets, oil change, bleed those brakes & clutch, maybe change the fork oil... yep should be just enough time.

[pomgolian]

Well first thought a hundy was a bit much for a B&B then $ 50 to doss on the floor not so bad, but on reflection would sooner camp, $ 15 for a tent or $ 30 for a bunk says the camp ground, think i will camp so count me out of B&B Gman, toooo many beers helps you sleep when its real cold.

[DR Girl]

Well first thought a hundy was a bit much for a B&B then $ 50 to doss on the floor not so bad, but on reflection would sooner camp, $ 15 for a tent or $ 30 for a bunk says the camp ground, think i will camp so count me out of B&B Gman, toooo many beers helps you sleep when its real cold.

You are one tough fello !!!!! I would wake up all through the night with the cold :cold:. . . . a one day 480k ride for me on the Sat & back to my brand new, never had lecky on bed. . . . . mmmmm (dif to Clint's MMMMMs ;) )

[R650R]

Sounds like a great ride, count me in. Undecided yet if I'll start at the pub or hook in along the way somewhere.
Greetings to all, some great info in these threads. Keen to join any other HB adventure rideouts also.

[Waipukbiker]

Gday and welcome to da adv thread, there are a few of us adventurous (however the hell you spell it) types here in HB so just keep an eye on the HB Rideout thread and keep in touch. Hope to have the odd social get together as well.

[pete-blen]

Why not..
Got to be in Auck on/around the 24th july..
brother's 50th ...
So I could trailer the XR..
If it all works out .. I'm in...

O well I'm out...
Just spent my spare cash on another bike...:facepalm:
will fly to auck now...

[paturoa]

I'm likely to be busy over the next couple of weekends so I'm planning to get the gear into a small pile and re-install the pannier frames this weekend. Now where is my warm beanie hidden?

[circuit1]

Tickets are booked bike is sorted, just need somewhere to stay Saturday night, not worried about price eg not the container would be good.
Anyone canceling and had a room booked ?
Let me know please

[Gman71]

Tickets are booked bike is sorted, just need somewhere to stay Saturday night, not worried about price eg not the container would be good.
Anyone canceling and had a room booked ?
Let me know please

There is space available at the B&B in matawai. All beds gone, but $50 for somewhere to sleep inside (stretcher?matress? Not sure) with a "humdinger breakfast" ( her words not mine).

Let me know, I will arrange.

[circuit1]

There is space available at the B&B in matawai. All beds gone, but $50 for somewhere to sleep inside (stretcher?matress? Not sure) with a "humdinger breakfast" ( her words not mine).

Let me know, I will arrange.

Will you need to supply own bedding etc or included?

[Gremlin]

bumping this to the top... Think I might be tagging along, but interested in accommodation with linen supplied...

[clint640]

bumping this to the top... Think I might be tagging along, but interested in accommodation with linen supplied...

Cool, Check with Gman71, you may be able to get a mattress on the floor at the B&B, otherwise it's probably Gisborne or Opotiki.

I'm just revising the routesheet now, Rosie is sorting out the GPS track, so we should have all that posted up sometime this week.

Cheers
Clint

[Gman71]

Beds with linen all taken, but somewhere inside still available. I'll make a call and see if stretcher or whatever is available with linen, or if you need to bring a sleeping bag......

[clint640]

Hi All, attached is the routesheet for your navigational enjoyment. Please also carry a map.

If you don't have a rollchart holder & are contemplating just printing out the sheets & reading them along the way, please do, I find it absolutely hilarious watching people chasing bits of sodden A4 blowing around in the wind & rain. :lol:

Can't post a gpx file here, so download the GPS route over on advrider : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19100466#post19100466 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19100466#post19100466)

Rosie's notes on the GPS stuff:

They are designed to run with the NZ Open GPS Project maps, and have been tested on the maps created between May 17th and July 5th (Having up to date maps is very important, this route didn’t work with the maps I downloaded in October). Maps can be downloaded here:

http://nzopengps.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6:downloads&catid=7:how-to-documents&Itemid=11

The maps either run through Mapsource, or, for newer GPSses (e.g 62s) you can copy the *.img files straight from \Program files\NZ Open Autorouting GPS project\ into the appropriate directory on the GPS.
I will attempt to help out if anyone is having problems getting the maps and/or routes onto their GPS. But if people are having trouble, I would respectfully suggest that they also carry the routesheets as a backup.

There are five routes, and a variety of waypoints. Some waypoints are useful things like fuel and food, some are just for navigation. I’ve also included a few waypoints for petrol stations that aren’t on the main route.
Since we’ll be corner-manning through the Waipunga first thing on Saturday, the routes all start from where we regroup in Minginui.

The routes should be fairly self-explanatory:
Sat AM Fuel – for people who need to go to Wairoa for fuel
Sat AM No Fuel – for people who do not need to go to Wairoa for fuel
To avoid confusion, I’d recommend deleting the route you don’t intend using.
The lunch/fuel stop at Waikaremoana is marked as a waypoint (hopefully a little knife and fork, but who knows)
Both routes end up at the pub in Tiniroto. From there, it’s time to choose a new route:
Sat PM Short – the (slightly) more direct route to Matawai
Sat PM Long – incorporates an extra gravel loop on the way to Matawai.
Both end up at the Matawai pub.
On Sunday, there is only one route – Sun
The lunch stop in Opotiki is marked as a waypoint, as is Clint’s house where the ride finishes.


Cheers
Clint

[.chris]

The routes should be fairly self-explanatory:
Sat AM Fuel – for people who need to go to Wairoa for fuel
Sat AM No Fuel – for people who do not need to go to Wairoa for fuel
To avoid confusion, I’d recommend deleting the route you don’t intend using.
The lunch/fuel stop at Waikaremoana is marked as a waypoint (hopefully a little knife and fork, but who knows)
Both routes end up at the pub in Tiniroto. From there, it’s time to choose a new route:
Sat PM Short – the (slightly) more direct route to Matawai
Sat PM Long – incorporates an extra gravel loop on the way to Matawai.
Both end up at the Matawai pub.
On Sunday, there is only one route – Sun
The lunch stop in Opotiki is marked as a waypoint, as is Clint’s house where the ride finishes.


Cheers
Clint

Hey Clint, Saturday doing the no-fuel option, Waikeremoana to next fuel would be Matawai? How far is that?

[Rosie]

Hey Clint, Saturday doing the no-fuel option, Waikeremoana to next fuel would be Matawai? How far is that?

According to the front page of the route sheet: 230km if you take the short route after Tiniroto, 240km if you take the long route.

[Gremlin]

They are designed to run with the NZ Open GPS Project maps, and have been tested on the maps created between May 17th and July 5th (Having up to date maps is very important, this route didn’t work with the maps I downloaded in October).
Simple reason is that several of the roads you're using didn't exist in the maps back then, and do now. Namely those through Kaingaroa Forest. I know... coz I had them added :lol:

edit: For those using Mapsource, it's also best to open the file and right click on each route and ask to re-calculate. This also assumes Mapsource and your GPS are using the same mapset. Important, because of constant changes in routing within the maps.

[.chris]

According to the front page of the route sheet: 230km if you take the short route after Tiniroto, 240km if you take the long route.

Thanks Rosie, I did not even think to check the route-sheet. My bad.

Very looking forward to this ride, Love rides with route-sheets, such navigational fun.

[Rosie]

Thanks Rosie, I did not even think to check the route-sheet. My bad.

Very looking forward to this ride, Love rides with route-sheets, such navigational fun.

Did you check the first post? It's in there too :lol:


Simple reason is that several of the roads you're using didn't exist in the maps back then, and do now. Namely those through Kaingaroa Forest. I know... coz I had them added :lol:

edit: For those using Mapsource, it's also best to open the file and right click on each route and ask to re-calculate. This also assumes Mapsource and your GPS are using the same mapset. Important, because of constant changes in routing within the maps.

The slip on Ohuka road (which has since been cleared) was actually where the route was coming unstuck.
The section through Kaingaroa has not been included in the routes - it will be run exclusively on the corner-man system. And woe betide anyone who takes along their own GPS route, and subsequently gets lost in the forest :nono:

[Rosie]

I will not be running GPS tutorials at the pub on the Friday night :Pokey:
Make sure it all works before you leave home :sunny:

[clint640]

Simple reason is that several of the roads you're using didn't exist in the maps back then, and do now. Namely those through Kaingaroa Forest. I know... coz I had them added :lol:
.

So we know who to blame if we find a campervan full of tourists stuck in the ford up the Waipunga then :lol:

Cheers
Clint

[Gremlin]

So we know who to blame if we find a campervan full of tourists stuck in the ford up the Waipunga then :lol:
I'm a gremlin... I see no problem with that :innocent: Besides, I asked for low priority to be given... I might feel guilty if I see a news article where tourists from Napier took a short route to Auckland :msn-wink:

[Waihou Thumper]

Snaffled the last bed, Meant to be I guess. I will be there. Just need to find digs for the Saturday evening. Whitikau conservation campsite is looking attractive. FREE! :) Close by as well. Means doing half the Motu though to get there.....Might be better to sling it to Opotiki? Container prices if they are $30? I will ride around to look for a gypsy campsite, rough it for the night and wake early as I will be bloody cold.....Fill up on beer and get a good nights sleep.

[clint640]

I'm a gremlin... I see no problem with that :innocent: Besides, I asked for low priority to be given... I might feel guilty if I see a news article where tourists from Napier took a short route to Auckland :msn-wink:

That public access easement from Waipunga to Minginui is only a legal access during daylight hours - is that noted somehow in the open gps maps? I've been through there lots of times at night with no problems but if you are going to broadcast it to the world you need to get the details right.

Cheers
Clint

[Waihou Thumper]

Ok. rang them, $30.00 for the night, apparently has a shower somewhere, just a bunk and a mattress, that's all I need.It is going to be warmer than a tent and less stuff to carry. That'll do.

[Gremlin]

That public access easement from Waipunga to Minginui is only a legal access during daylight hours - is that noted somehow in the open gps maps? I've been through there lots of times at night with no problems but if you are going to broadcast it to the world you need to get the details right.
Just waiting to see what the mappers put, but it's very low priority in terms of routing etc. Agree with your comments 100%

[Horney1]

Ok. rang them, $30.00 for the night, apparently has a shower somewhere, just a bunk and a mattress, that's all I need.It is going to be warmer than a tent and less stuff to carry. That'll do.


I've been chasing a dry spot on the Saturday night to (todays miserable rain reminded me more about that really wet Sunday on the '10 ride). I might end up in the container to... Cold I can handle, heavy rain is just a pain in the bivvy (reminds me, must buy a small brolly! :laugh: ).

Rangatik's full but they'll do some floor space for me on the night.

Well, new 21 inch TKC at the front door waiting for me to go out and fit it. New sprockets in hand. Waiting on chain to arrive...

I've screen printed each pages of Clints' course notes & uploaded to my IPOD as jpgs. Not quite as good as SatNav but it'll work for me (with country roads book as backup).



A side note / forethought:


That public access easement from Waipunga to Minginui is only a legal access during daylight hours - is that noted somehow in the open gps maps? I've been through there lots of times at night with no problems but if you are going to broadcast it to the world you need to get the details right.

Cheers
Clint


Broadcast it and end up with more tourists up there, then road upgrades because they get stuck, then more road upgrades because they want to take airconditioned coaches and articulated camper RVs there, then eventually we've got ourselves another straight sealed road with double yellow lines 90% of the way... (or riding in the dust of more campervans or finding them coming around every second corner on the wrong side...) Is that what we want (of our playgrounds in general)?

Joni Mitchell sang of things along this line in 1970 & it still applies, "They paved paradise to put up a parking lot". (Ref: "Big Yellow Taxi" in Ladies of the Canyon or in Miles of Aisles (Live)). That's on my IPOD to now :).

[clint640]

Broadcast it and end up with more tourists up there, then road upgrades because they get stuck, then more road upgrades because they want to take airconditioned coaches and articulated camper RVs there, then eventually we've got ourselves another straight sealed road with double yellow lines 90% of the way...

It's a public access easement over forestry roads, maintenance is entirely on the whim of the forestry company, eg the route around the washed out crossing remained a rough 4x4 track for over a year. What I'd be worried about is if the track gets lots more use inevitably there will be issues & Kaingaroa Timberlands will be looking for ways to restrict access. Already public access to the Kaingaroa estate has been severly curtailed compared with in the past.

Cheers
Clint

[That looks like fun]

Been watching this with interest, we have similiar problems in the Naki :(.
A bunch of recent visitors to the province were given half true information about "paper roads" etc. I believe they are now planning rides etc that will only end with access to these areas being shut off completly forever. :brick:
Totally agree Clint, some people need to research things better before they make avaliable or use information. :nono:
Ok enough thread hijack :oi-grr::
MMMM, hmmmm, tossing up between the Beemer on dual sports with heated grips, comfy seat, and warm toes :cool:
Or some harden the f up pills and a blue bike :crazy:

[GSers]

MMMM, hmmmm, tossing up between the Beemer on dual sports with heated grips, comfy seat, and warm toes :cool:
Or some harden the f up pills and a blue bike :crazy:

I think you should choose the later of course. Warm hands and cosy sounds way to soft.

GSers

[Box'a'bits]

The bigger bike will be a better bet for those roads. The wee Yamaha would be better if there was more hardcore stuff

[Night Falcon]

Clint, do you have any idea what time you will be stopping at lake Waikeri? Am thinking I might do a day trip, meet up at the lake continue to Tiniroto/Ruakitura road intersection then head home. Have planed a cool route on the GPS incorperating some of yours in two sections: Havelock to Waikeri (194 klm 3.28 hrs) via some backroads and Waikeri to Havelock highway (255klm 3.47hrs). Long day in the saddle but fun! :banana: That is if the weather is ok of course, Im not too fussed on frezzing the little man hood I have left off :baby:

[clint640]

Clint, do you have any idea what time you will be stopping at lake Waikeri? Am thinking I might do a day trip, meet up at the lake continue to Tiniroto/Ruakitura road intersection then head home. Have planed a cool route on the GPS incorperating some of yours in two sections: Havelock to Waikeri (194 klm 3.28 hrs) via some backroads and Waikeri to Havelock highway (255klm 3.47hrs). Long day in the saddle but fun! :banana: That is if the weather is ok of course, Im not too fussed on frezzing the little man hood I have left off :baby:

Everybody will be doing their own pace on the routesheet from Minginui, I'd estimate the pack will be trickling through from 10am to 11am. Don't eat all the pies before we get there :niceone:

Cheers
Clint

[Rosie]

The bigger bike will be a better bet for those roads. The wee Yamaha would be better if there was more hardcore stuff

Funny you should say that. I've heard rumors of a challenge section this year :shifty:

[clint640]

Funny you should say that. I've heard rumors of a challenge section this year :shifty:

There is a little optional section just before Minginui that, weather & time permitting, I may lead those with lighter bikes, decent knobs & the desire to help push the 640 up a couple of slippery bits :eek: through. It's only a couple of km though so I wouldn't base bike & tyre selection on that too much.

Cheers
Clint

[bart]

Clint, do you have any idea what time you will be stopping at lake Waikeri? Am thinking I might do a day trip, meet up at the lake continue to Tiniroto/Ruakitura road intersection then head home. Have planed a cool route on the GPS incorperating some of yours in two sections: Havelock to Waikeri (194 klm 3.28 hrs) via some backroads and Waikeri to Havelock highway (255klm 3.47hrs). Long day in the saddle but fun! :banana: That is if the weather is ok of course, Im not too fussed on frezzing the little man hood I have left off :baby:

Some others may be doing a Napier to Napier loop, around Waikerimoana, on the Saturday also.

[DR Girl]

Some others may be doing a Napier to Napier loop, around Waikerimoana, on the Saturday also.

Sent a pm to Marty this morning after reading his post re the one day loop. :niceone:
Are you joining in again this year Bart ?

[bart]

Sent a pm to Marty this morning after reading his post re the one day loop. :niceone:
Are you joining in again this year Bart ?

Yep........ :yes:

[Box'a'bits]

I was under the impression that Marty was going to ride up to Lake Waikaremoana, so wasn't looking to do the loop?

I am going to ride up to Napier Friday (got the day off), & will overnight there. I'll ride up to Rangitaikei early Saturday morning.

The ride thru the Forestry & down to Lake Waikaremoana are core parts of the ride to me. That & the Motu on Sunday.

I will be doing Sunday ride thru the Motu to Opotiki, then intend to ride back through the Motu, Whakerau Rd, then back to Napier. Home Monday.

Any Southern riders that want to hook up for the ride up, or back, please let me know.

[bart]

Any Southern riders that want to hook up for the ride up, or back, please let me know.

That's sorta what I had planned (and what I've done the last 2 years). There's a couple of roads I'd like to explore on the way home also (if time/fuel allow).

[pomgolian]

Hi had planned to ride through Napier early Sat am then do the Sat ride stay the night then either carry on for sunday ride or head home through some new back roads depending on weather. Whats the Motu ? any good ?

Maybe catch up through Napier let me know what time hitting the Taupo Road.

Paul

[bart]

Motu....nah....nothing to see there

266589 266590 266591 266592

Did that sound sarcastic? It did in my head, but weird things go on inside there. :rolleyes:

[Box'a'bits]

Whats the Motu ? any good ?
Paul
Here (http://www.softnz.com/TheMotu/TheMotu.html) you go

[Shewolf]

cheers! made a mental note of where that tree root is... that spots usually under water :headbang:


Here (http://www.softnz.com/TheMotu/TheMotu.html) you go

[Box'a'bits]

cheers! made a mental note of where that tree root is... that spots usually under water :headbang:
Only problem is that you'll have to remember backwards, given that that was from the Opotiki end... :lol:

[pomgolian]

Now i know, looks like a great ride

[Dingledoo]

I will not be running GPS tutorials at the pub on the Friday night :Pokey:
Make sure it all works before you leave home :sunny:

Thanks very much for GPS routes. However I am having a little trouble with them. Any help would be appreciated.

I have downloaded the most recent NZ Open GPS Project maps to my PC and Garmin Oregon unit.

The routes are all showing correctly on mapsource on my pc.

I have then sent the routes I want (e.g sat am no fuel) to the Oregon.

The problem comes when I view the route on the unit: for example 'sat am no fuel':

- Instead of the route taking me left at Ohuka Rd as it should, I'm being taken all the way to Frasertown, then left to Te Reinga, where it then shows the route as a fork: left to the Erepeti rd waypoint (as a there and back) and also right to Tiniroto (not as shown on mapsource).

I guess the problem is in how my routing is set-up? I have it set to on-road guidance (it won't work for off-road guidance as there are too few waypoints). It routes the same whether it is set to 'on road for time' or 'on road for distance'.

This 'forked' routing also appears on the sat pm routes too on my unit (so presumably it's not due to the Ohuka slip thing).

Is this happening to anyone else?

[Night Falcon]

Thanks very much for GPS routes. However I am having a little trouble with them. Any help would be appreciated.

I have downloaded the most recent NZ Open GPS Project maps to my PC and Garmin Oregon unit.

The routes are all showing correctly on mapsource on my pc.

I have then sent the routes I want (e.g sat am no fuel) to the Oregon.

The problem comes when I view the route on the unit: for example 'sat am no fuel':

- Instead of the route taking me left at Ohuka Rd as it should, I'm being taken all the way to Frasertown, then left to Te Reinga, where it then shows the route as a fork: left to the Erepeti rd waypoint (as a there and back) and also right to Tiniroto (not as shown on mapsource).

I guess the problem is in how my routing is set-up? I have it set to on-road guidance (it won't work for off-road guidance as there are too few waypoints). It routes the same whether it is set to 'on road for time' or 'on road for distance'.

This 'forked' routing also appears on the sat pm routes too on my unit (so presumably it's not due to the Ohuka slip thing).

Is this happening to anyone else?

is the downloaded map activated on your gps? I had to enable it on my zumo to get it to work.

[bart]

My AA map was reading funny too....until I discovered I had it upside down. :killingme

[Box'a'bits]

Don't worry guys, I'm sure I remember Rosie offering to help you sort out your GPS at the Rangitaikei Pub Friday night ;)

[That looks like fun]

Change the route to a track :niceone:
No auto reroute issue's to deal with :headbang:

[Night Falcon]

Might of talked hangman (jimbo) and his 9fiddy into tagging along for satdee ride.

In two minds whether to put the new MT21 on the front for this ride or leave the E07 on? The E07 would still pass a wof but is way past its best (which wasn't that great to begin with), is anyone else riding with an oldish front tire?

[Crisis management]

The E07 would still pass a wof but is way past its best (which wasn't that great to begin with), is anyone else riding with an oldish front tire?

Me, what can possibly go wrong?

[MXNUT]

is anyone else riding with an oldish front tire?

O goody :mad: What tyre pressure will you run and what type of engine oil

[That looks like fun]

O goody :mad: What tyre pressure will you run and what type of engine oil

WD 40 for the chain :lol:
Just arksing :killingme

[Shewolf]

I got a new MT21 on today.... I'm not sure what worn tyres are like in the snow (she says, ever hopeful)


Might of talked hangman (jimbo) and his 9fiddy into tagging along for satdee ride.

In two minds whether to put the new MT21 on the front for this ride or leave the E07 on? The E07 would still pass a wof but is way past its best (which wasn't that great to begin with), is anyone else riding with an oldish front tire?

[Night Falcon]

Me, what can possibly go wrong? NOTHING!! :cool: I havn't done this ride before so not sure how slippery the terrain is going to be. If the gravel bits are anything like the roads in southern HB you could ride them with slicks at the moment, hard packed with very little loose stuff. The scottsman in me says eek some more miles out of the E07 and save the mt21, but if theres going to be any mudd, grass or clay bits I will put on the newby.


O goody :mad: What tyre pressure will you run and what type of engine oil

Sorry, this information is classified....but I can tell you I won't be bringing any chicken sandwiches :puke:

[Night Falcon]

I got a new MT21 on today.... I'm not sure what worn tyres are like in the snow (she says, ever hopeful)

Snow :gob:, disregard all previous correspondance I'm going with the new tyre :niceone:

[That looks like fun]

Blue for this ride I think :niceone:
Went and brought some heated grips today so thats tomorrows job sorted :cool:



are we there yet? :banana:

[bart]

I'm taking off my knobbly, and throwing some $10 road looking bullshit thing on the back tomorrow. 10 bucks....can't go wrong. :lol:

[DR Girl]

Might of talked hangman (jimbo) and his 9fiddy into tagging along for satdee ride.

In two minds whether to put the new MT21 on the front for this ride or leave the E07 on? The E07 would still pass a wof but is way past its best (which wasn't that great to begin with), is anyone else riding with an oldish front tire?

One day ride not that hard Marty. You will be fine. :apumpin::apumpin: Just a bit taxing on the butt by the end. Ride through the forest is pretty fast,open & not demanding. Around the Lake can be cold & the amount of gravel varies according to the last time it was graded or resurfaced. I'm riding again this year with the same free :niceone:, throw away 2nd hand knob tyre from the Honda Shop & a well used Adv tyre on the rear & not worried at all.
Two years ago (as mentioned earlier on this thread) . . . it's the ice we struck on the Nap/Taupo that you have to be most careful of.
My mate & I had a bit of fun at Te Haroto (once off our bikes) skating on the edge of the road in our MX boots. Then I road the last 20ks to Rangitaiki with my googles off as they had frozen up in the inside through the fog LOL. A very slow 20ks, as we couldn't see a thing!

[GPS MAN]

I am really hoping it isn't going to be that COLD this year:cold:

Remember that 1st water crossing? ICE:shit:

[Night Falcon]

I am really hoping it isn't going to be that COLD this year:cold:

Remember that 1st water crossing? ICE:shit:

I bet Junkmanjoe still remembers it :lol:

[MXNUT]

Blue for this ride I think :niceone:
Went and brought some heated grips today so thats tomorrows job sorted :cool:

Heated Grips, what a pussy. Harden up man :baby:

























I just fitted mine today

[trustme]

There is now a bed available at the Rangitikei Pub & one at the Matawai Pub. Matawai is not answering the phone but will be cancelled as soon as they ring back
Work is not panning out as I hoped so I will be a no show.

Sorry for the stuff around Clint & thanks for your heads up.
Don't forget your earmuffs tomorrow, should be the last day if the bloody breaker does not shit itself again.:facepalm::brick::brick:

[That looks like fun]

Heated Grips, what a pussy. Harden up man :baby:
I just fitted mine today

Just having a coffee then waddling out the shed to fit em :2thumbsup
I had cement for breakfast :apumpin:

[circuit1]

Tested my heated vest last night, works like a beauty, had to turn it to the lowest setting.
I fear the cold no more.

[Dingledoo]

is the downloaded map activated on your gps? I had to enable it on my zumo to get it to work.

Thanks nightfalcon.

You made me question what map was showing on the unit, and it seems that the updated one isn't going onto the GPS unit from Mapsource. Not sure why.

Have spent hours on it. So fed up with the GPS now, I'm going to revert back to good old fashion paper maps.:(

[Horney1]

....... is anyone else riding with an oldish front tire?


Got my new conti front on now.

No worries Trustme I haven't confirmed a bed at Matawhai yet and they were going to sort something out for me at the Rangatik. So I'd be happy to take up the slack.

[R650R]

Probably tag along for the Saturday round the block Napier to Napier group. Used to regularly drive SH5 in linehaul truck so I'll be the canary for the spotting the icy spots (famous last words). Metvuew site looks like changable weather and approaching front so hopefully they'll be enough wind to ward off the ice. Works has been good with that new grit and acetate deicing compound during last few years that ice risk has been reduced greatly.
The coldest part is always the plains along lochinvar straight to the start of the waipungas, often saw minus seven through there on the trucks external temp gauge.
Did run through SH38 at end of may, most of gravel was packed down hard like concrete so prob had a good grade since then.

[Beem02]

Should be a great ride :niceone:
I've been waiting to see what happens at work, and it's now looking good for time off on Friday to ride up to Taupo
So I'm planning to be in for both days of the ride.

Also keen to travel back thru Napier on the Sunday on the way South via a few back roads.
Now I just need to find some accommodation (not camping)

[Rosie]

Thanks nightfalcon.

You made me question what map was showing on the unit, and it seems that the updated one isn't going onto the GPS unit from Mapsource. Not sure why.

Have spent hours on it. So fed up with the GPS now, I'm going to revert back to good old fashion paper maps.:(

Ugh, what a pain. I don't have any experience with Mapsource, so I'm not sure how you'd get it to update the map on your GPS. You could try asking on the GPS thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/93383-GPS-mapping-and-GPS-units-you-use).

There had been a big slip on Ohuka Rd which closed it until a couple of months ago. Consequently older versions of the Open GPS maps won't show Ohuka Rd going all the way through, so your GPS will route you around it (which takes you all the way to Frasertown). I had the same problem, until I updated the maps. But you are right, carrying the routesheets and a map is a good idea. I will be doing that too. :yes:


Don't worry guys, I'm sure I remember Rosie offering to help you sort out your GPS at the Rangitaikei Pub Friday night ;)

I can barely operate my own GPS while sober... the chances of me sorting out other models of GPS at the pub are pretty slim :mellow:

[Gremlin]

You made me question what map was showing on the unit, and it seems that the updated one isn't going onto the GPS unit from Mapsource. Not sure why.

Have spent hours on it. So fed up with the GPS now, I'm going to revert back to good old fashion paper maps.:(
(Unsure what I'm opening myself up to) I'm happy to try and help answer questions, but won't be at Rangitaiki on Friday night. I will be in Matawai on Saturday night tho. No laptop to "fix" units however, but feel free to ask questions about Garmin GPS.

[clint640]

On Friday afternoon Rosie & I will be heading from my place at Rotoiti via Te Teko to Minginui then doing the first section of the ride in reverse over to the Rangitaiki Pub via Waipunga.

If anyone else is coming over from our direction & wants to join us we will be leaving my place, 1325 SH30 Gisborne Pt, at 2pm. We will be turning off SH30 on to Galatea Rd at 2:45pm if anyone want to meet there. We will fuel up at Murupara before heading in to Minginui. NOTE: You need 240km range to do this option & make it to Waikaremoana without diverting to Taupo or Murupara for fuel.

If you want to get in to my place a bit earlier for a cuppa & some lunch you are welcome.

Cheers
Clint

[Night Falcon]

Thanks nightfalcon.

You made me question what map was showing on the unit, and it seems that the updated one isn't going onto the GPS unit from Mapsource. Not sure why.

Have spent hours on it. So fed up with the GPS now, I'm going to revert back to good old fashion paper maps.:(

my zumo has a section in the settings to select maps. I have three in there and ticked them all. everything worked once i did this...I imagine yours will have something similar?

[Gremlin]

I have three in there and ticked them all. everything worked once i did this...I imagine yours will have something similar?
On the Zumo 550 it's Main screen > spanner > Map > Map Info. However, if you are using the NZOGPS maps, tick only 2 listed as NZ Open GPS autorouting etc blah blah.

Having multiple maps (NZOGPS and Garmin etc) will map for a complete lacking of good routing, but excellent hilarity as the GPS tries to use both sets of maps at once.

This is important for the first time using NZOGPS. When you load new mapsets, they replace the old NZOGPS maps (unless you're running a custom setup), so the ticks stay, you use new maps etc.

[JATZ]

If anyone else is coming over from our direction & wants to join us we will be leaving my place, 1325 SH30 Gisborne Pt, at 2pm. We will be turning off SH30 on to Galatea Rd at 2:45pm if anyone want to meet there.
If you want to get in to my place a bit earlier for a cuppa & some lunch you are welcome.

Cheers
Clint

You'd best mention the big ass tyre out the front. Wouldn't want anybody riding up and down the road trying to find an obscure ESN number :facepalm: :D

[Gremlin]

Seems the Matawai Hotel got a little lost in logging into the site, and posted this in blogs:

Matawai Hotel
PO Box 27
Matawai
Ph: 06 862 4874 Phone Essie or email
waiheke.chocolate@xtra.co.nz

Dinner menu for Matawai - Motu Ride 28th May


Main Event
• Tarragon Roast Chicken with creamy tarragon gravy
• Roasted Mutton & Apple Sauce
• Roast Pork & Apple Sauce

Garden Produce
• Spice roasted kumara, pumpkin, potatoes
• Orange glazed carrots
• Buttered Baby green beans
• Broccoli and cheese sauce

Sweet Treats
• Our house cheese cake
• Pavlova fruit topped
• Fruit montage with vanilla cream

----------------------------

Are we booking individually, or an organiser taking numbers and passing them along? I feel hungry already :drool:

[ducatijim]

On Friday afternoon Rosie & I will be heading from my place at Rotoiti via Te Teko to Minginui then doing the first section of the ride in reverse over to the Rangitaiki Pub via Waipunga.

If anyone else is coming over from our direction & wants to join us we will be leaving my place, 1325 SH30 Gisborne Pt, at 2pm. We will be turning off SH30 on to Galatea Rd at 2:45pm if anyone want to meet there. We will fuel up at Murupara before heading in to Minginui. NOTE: You need 240km range to do this option & make it to Waikaremoana without diverting to Taupo or Murupara for fuel.

If you want to get in to my place a bit earlier for a cuppa & some lunch you are welcome.

Cheers
Clint

Hi Clint, I'm guessing you will swing into Murapara 4 a splash-n-dash? What time would you likely be there you think? 3-20 to 3-30ish?

[Matawai Hotel]

Seems the Matawai Hotel got a little lost in logging into the site, and posted this in blogs:

Matawai Hotel
PO Box 27
Matawai
Ph: 06 862 4874 Phone Essie or email
waiheke.chocolate@xtra.co.nz

Dinner menu for Matawai - Motu Ride 28th May


Main Event
• Tarragon Roast Chicken with creamy tarragon gravy
• Roasted Mutton & Apple Sauce
• Roast Pork & Apple Sauce

Garden Produce
• Spice roasted kumara, pumpkin, potatoes
• Orange glazed carrots
• Buttered Baby green beans
• Broccoli and cheese sauce

Sweet Treats
• Our house cheese cake
• Pavlova fruit topped
• Fruit montage with vanilla cream

----------------------------

Are we booking individually, or an organiser taking numbers and passing them along? I feel hungry already :drool:
Thanks to Gremlin for steering me in the right direction, get lost easily. Please book individually via email or leave a message on the phone would be good too. Cheers Essie

[Horney1]

........
Dinner menu for Matawai - Motu Ride 28th May


Main Event
• Tarragon Roast Chicken with creamy tarragon gravy
• Roasted Mutton & Apple Sauce
• Roast Pork & Apple Sauce

Garden Produce
• Spice roasted kumara, pumpkin, potatoes
• Orange glazed carrots
• Buttered Baby green beans
• Broccoli and cheese sauce

Sweet Treats
• Our house cheese cake
• Pavlova fruit topped
• Fruit montage with vanilla cream

----------------------------

Are we booking individually, or an organiser taking numbers and passing them along? I feel hungry already :drool:


Mmmmm. +1 here!

[clint640]

You'd best mention the big ass tyre out the front. Wouldn't want anybody riding up and down the road trying to find an obscure ESN number :facepalm: :D

As the ride finishes up at my place detailed directions are in the routesheet. ;)


Hi Clint, I'm guessing you will swing into Murapara 4 a splash-n-dash? What time would you likely be there you think? 3-20 to 3-30ish?

Yep, I reckon that would be a good guess.


Anybody coming with mates that will want a feed at Matawai, but may not see Essie's message on here, please give them a heads up on booking in for the meal :drool:

Cheers
Clint

[Rosie]

If you want to get in to my place a bit earlier for a cuppa & some lunch you are welcome.

Will you be posting up a lunch menu, so we can preorder? :innocent:

[DR Girl]

One day Loop plans for Hawkes Bay riders are as follows if anyone wants to tag along.

I'm meeting Marty (Night Falcon) at his place at 5.50am in Havelock North. Glad to hear 'Jimbo' is able to join us also Marty:clap:
Then we will ride to BP Connect Bay View(open 24 hrs), arriving there 6.15am. Gas up. Meeting GrantWB there & anyone else who would like to join us, or who is staying over in Hawkes Bay for the night for MMMMM.
Wade, hear you've been in contact with Marty, great, & Bart/ Pomgolian what are your plans ?. If any other Hv Nth riders want to meet at Marty's, suggest you pm him. Remember to be as quiet as poss when arriving on Sat so we don't wake the kids or neighbours ;)
We will meet Clint, Rosie & the group at the corner of Pohokura Rd. We will be there by 7.50/8.00 am :grouphug:LOL

On the return, maybe a stop at the nice Cafe 287 just South of Wairoa (3kms on the left past Wairoa), this cafe is open till 4.00pm. . . . then a stop for a hot or cold one at Waikare Pub in Putorino?

[DR Girl]

Probably tag along for the Saturday round the block Napier to Napier group. Used to regularly drive SH5 in linehaul truck so I'll be the canary for the spotting the icy spots (famous last words). Metvuew site looks like changable weather and approaching front so hopefully they'll be enough wind to ward off the ice. Works has been good with that new grit and acetate deicing compound during last few years that ice risk has been reduced greatly.
The coldest part is always the plains along lochinvar straight to the start of the waipungas, often saw minus seven through there on the trucks external temp gauge.
Did run through SH38 at end of may, most of gravel was packed down hard like concrete so prob had a good grade since then.

You are sounding like the ideal bloke to join us. . . . being able to spot the icy spots is a real bonus:2thumbsup
Welcome aboard ;)'Canary' .

[888]

I'm in!! As timing/luck would have it, I'm picking up a 2007 KLR650 Thursday nite. Dealer is putting on a Deathwing 42 on the rear and I've got a almost new T63 for da front. Weather looks like we have a nice window before the next front moves in so:2thumbsup all I have to do is not tell my wife I have bought a second motorcycle and I've got the weekend free!!

[Dingledoo]

Thanks Rosie, Gremlin and Nightfalcon for the help with the GPS.

I have sorted it! It's all working as it should now.

Something to do with the older auto routing maps being stored on the units memory rather than the sd card. I only worked it out after stripping everything off it and adding maps back one by one. Very frustrating that when looking at the map information on the unit it doesn't give any details like date of update.

Now I just have to remember to take lots of spare batteries. The last ride I did in minus 5 meant I was going through batteries in the gps every half hour, they obviously don't like the cold.

[pomgolian]

One day Loop plans for Hawkes Bay riders are as follows if anyone wants to tag along.

I'm meeting Marty (Night Falcon) at his place at 5.50am in Havelock North. Glad to hear 'Jimbo' is able to join us also Marty:clap:
Then we will ride to BP Connect Bay View(open 24 hrs), arriving there 6.15am. Gas up. Meeting GrantWB there & anyone else who would like to join us, or who is staying over in Hawkes Bay for the night for MMMMM.
Wade, hear you've been in contact with Marty, great, & Bart/ Pomgolian what are your plans ?. If any other Hv Nth riders want to meet at Marty's, suggest you pm him. Remember to be as quiet as poss when arriving on Sat so we don't wake the kids or neighbours ;)
We will meet Clint, Rosie & the group at the corner of Pohokura Rd. We will be there by 7.50/8.00 am :grouphug:LOL

On the return, maybe a stop at the nice Cafe 287 just South of Wairoa (3kms on the left past Wairoa), this cafe is open till 4.00pm. . . . then a stop for a hot or cold one at Waikare Pub in Putorino?

Hi wll PM Marty & meet you guys & gals in Havelock, plan is to do the Saturday ride have a feed & stay Sat night then decide depending on weather my Sunday plans, would like to do the Motu but the forcast for Sat looks good Sun looks shite so might hot tail it home Sun morning. Forcast http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&region=nz&noofdays=7

Paul

[paturoa]

I've hardly got anything done, and my list of stuff to do is still quite long...

Don't panic.

[Shewolf]

keep spare batteries in your bra

well it works for me


Now I just have to remember to take lots of spare batteries. The last ride I did in minus 5 meant I was going through batteries in the gps every half hour, they obviously don't like the cold.

[Transalper]

....
Now I just have to remember to take lots of spare batteries. The last ride I did in minus 5 meant I was going through batteries in the gps every half hour, they obviously don't like the cold.

If you are using cheap Alkalines or Rechargeables including the Energisers and Panasonics more than 6 months old I can understand that.
I have the Garmin MAP62s which has an advertised battery life up to 20 hours (Oregon's I think claim up to 16 hours) and using good batterys even in cold Otago with the backlight on continuously for most the day it goes for at least 14 hours hours with decent batterys, usually more like 16 or 17.
I now use and recommend the rechargeable Sanyo Eneloops in my GPS's and VIO helmet camera since being introduced to them, they do what the others advertise. They are so good so far that I have thrown out the other brands I had. They wake up and work best after the first 5 or 6 full cycles are complete.
Dick Smith has a 4 pack for $25 delivered (http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/product/S4414/eneloop-4-x-aa-ready-to-use-nimh-batteries) (well in CHCH they do at least).
If you give them a try let us know what you think... after you've used them for a bit.
I charge mine in the standard Energiser NiMH charger I already had for my old energisers, not so keen on fast (like 1 hour) chargers. Chargers that stop automatically when done are good.

Neither the Dick Smith Alkaline or the 6 month old Energisers I had would run my VIO camera, where as the Sanyos run it for several hours.
Good luck.

[888]

Forecast is looking good for sunday as well....frosts saturday morning (standard!)...:2thumbsup

[ducatijim]

keep spare batteries in your bra

well it works for me

Haha, must be a bit of a 'nippy' moment tho when you first put cold batteries down there?

[Rosie]

Thanks Rosie, Gremlin and Nightfalcon for the help with the GPS.

I have sorted it! It's all working as it should now.

Something to do with the older auto routing maps being stored on the units memory rather than the sd card. I only worked it out after stripping everything off it and adding maps back one by one. Very frustrating that when looking at the map information on the unit it doesn't give any details like date of update.

Now I just have to remember to take lots of spare batteries. The last ride I did in minus 5 meant I was going through batteries in the gps every half hour, they obviously don't like the cold.

I'm glad you got it working :niceone:
Batteries can be a pain, sometimes they last forever, sometimes they are constantly going flat. I've got a charger wired into the bike, so at least I don't have to worry about batteries while I am riding. I'm still carrying several sets just in case though.

[ducatijim]

Wot is it with these GPS's at the moment? My Zumo of many years now, which I long ago loaded with NZ free AR, has taken it upon itself( herself actually; shes Karen the Ozzi!) to rearrange some stuff without asking first!
I was sitting back quite smugly, as I sometimes do, watching the gps issues here knowing that mine is just fine. Switched her on to clean up outdated routes and favs when I notice that on NZFree my home is in the middle of a very large brown space. Nearest road, a major 1 is about 4km by the screen when in reallity there are roads all around. None show on my unit, only the major roads like SH5 etc.
I download the latest version to my pc onto Mapsource and select it to go to my unit; all the fine detail is visable on Mapsource. Check the new map on Zumo; still the same, only major roads showing!
Does anyone know wots happened? Should I terminate Karens contract forthwith?

On another note, the recent weather event over the eastern ranges should add some xtra spice to the garvel roads out that way perhaps?;)

[Gremlin]

Check the new map on Zumo; still the same, only major roads showing!
Have you checked the zoom level? As you zoom out further the GPS will show less roads.

[Rosie]

Wot is it with these GPS's at the moment? My Zumo of many years now, which I long ago loaded with NZ free AR, has taken it upon itself( herself actually; shes Karen the Ozzi!) to rearrange some stuff without asking first!
I was sitting back quite smugly, as I sometimes do, watching the gps issues here knowing that mine is just fine. Switched her on to clean up outdated routes and favs when I notice that on NZFree my home is in the middle of a very large brown space. Nearest road, a major 1 is about 4km by the screen when in reallity there are roads all around. None show on my unit, only the major roads like SH5 etc.
I download the latest version to my pc onto Mapsource and select it to go to my unit; all the fine detail is visable on Mapsource. Check the new map on Zumo; still the same, only major roads showing!
Does anyone know wots happened? Should I terminate Karens contract forthwith?

On another note, the recent weather event over the eastern ranges should add some xtra spice to the garvel roads out that way perhaps?;)

Parikanapa Rd is down to 1 lane according to AA roadwatch (it was possibly only 1.25 lanes wide to start with...). And the Motu is narrow and scary and dangerous and has three river crossings - so business as usual there :)

As Gremlin said, have you fiddled with the zoom on the Zoomo? My 62s you have to zoom in a fair way to see minor roads. But my GPS is a boy, and yours is a girl, so YMMV :laugh:

[Transalper]

... My 62s you have to zoom in a fair way to see minor roads...
You can tweak all that stuff on the 62s so much that you can go too far, then you can't tell one road from the next as it can be made to show so much detail when zoomed out it all merges together. I did that then had to wind mine back in a bit.

[Dingledoo]

I now use and recommend the rechargeable Sanyo Eneloops in my GPS's and VIO helmet camera since being introduced to them, they do what the others advertise. They are so good so far that I have thrown out the other brands I had. They wake up and work best after the first 5 or 6 full cycles are complete.

Been out and bought some Eneloops (hidden at the very bottom of the display rack in dse - in a sea of energizers). Will be stuffing them in my bra (I'll put a couple in the gps too) along with a couple of chocolate croissants for brekkie at Rangitaiki. Sorted. I might even know where I'm going now.

[ducatijim]

My 62s you have to zoom in a fair way to see minor roads. :

I been from 20KM down to 20M and all options inbetween!

[pomgolian]

Just rang the camp ground to confirm booking to be told "sorry we are closed this weekend" F*** how on earth do they do business !!!!! :mad:

She said too many cancellations so they are closing, the pub is fully booked with a waiting list but she said they have a ten man tent but its very boggy outside so not a good option.

Other options she said was the local marae or the motu hall, any other idea's anyone ?

Paul

[888]

Have fun guys! I'm out....decided to hammer the Coromandel northern gravel roads instead to break in the (not so) new 2007 KLR650. I've got the route sheets so I reckon I'll do the "soft option" and hit this ride later on. I'm going to be a total soft ass and stay overnight fri/sat someplace warm...with food..and beer!:drool:

[GSers]

Just rang the camp ground to confirm booking to be told "sorry we are closed this weekend" F*** how on earth do they do business !!!!! :mad:

She said too many cancellations so they are closing, the pub is fully booked with a waiting list but she said they have a ten man tent but its very boggy outside so not a good option.

Other options she said was the local marae or the motu hall, any other idea's anyone ?

Paul

I am winging it surely there must be somewhere around there on higher ground that you can throw up the tent. I think there is a backpackers or farm stay up the Motu somewhere. The Motu in the dark could be a new challange.
Taupo Friday night where ever from there tent bed roll cooker food its adventure time.
GSers

An Option http://www.toatoaaccommodation.co.nz/

[pomgolian]

I am winging it surely there must be somewhere around there on higher ground that you can throw up the tent. I think there is a backpackers or farm stay up the Motu somewhere. The Motu in the dark could be a new challange.
Taupo Friday night where ever from there tent bed roll cooker food its adventure time.
GSers

An Option http://www.toatoaaccommodation.co.nz/

Sweet im sorted, GSers its goner piss down all sat night & sunday.

P

[Horney1]

Just rang the camp ground to confirm booking to be told "sorry we are closed this weekend" F*** how on earth do they do business !!!!! :mad:

She said too many cancellations so they are closing, the pub is fully booked with a waiting list but she said they have a ten man tent but its very boggy outside so not a good option.

Other options she said was the local marae or the motu hall, any other idea's anyone ?

Paul


Really? I spoke with her a couple of days back & it was all go? I'll still be carrying my bivvy (& small tarp for that dang rain!) so if accom's tight I could be doing the outdoors night to. One things for sure, doubt on where I sleep Saturday won't stop me going along.

[circuit1]

Really? I spoke with her a couple of days back & it was all go? I'll still be carrying my bivvy (& small tarp for that dang rain!) so if accom's tight I could be doing the outdoors night to. One things for sure, doubt on where I sleep Saturday won't stop me going along.

I wouldn't be worried, someone will pull out last minute for sure, you could always drink yourself oblivion and pass out on the pub floor till daylight :)

[Rosie]

Sweet im sorted, GSers its goner piss down all sat night & sunday.

P

You must be looking at a different Metvuw to me...

Clint is worried there won't be any rain at all, and it will ruin his "100% chance of rain" statistic.

[MXNUT]

Clint is worried there won't be any rain at all, and it will ruin his "100% chance of rain" statistic.

O what a terrible shame , no rain.

We will all be soooo dissapointed :crazy:

[ducatijim]

Hey guys, I will meet you at Murapara GAS friday, I will be there from 1520ish so see you then.:cool:

[clint640]

Hey guys, I will meet you at Murapara GAS friday, I will be there from 1520ish so see you then.:cool:

Cool, see you there.

Metvuw sez fine til Sun night, Metservice sez maybe some drizzle Sunday arvo. :Oi: I'm off to do a rain & snow dance :banana:

Cheers
Clint

[ducatijim]

Could you just settle for a snow dance? I'm betting those roads have seen enough rain recently for our purposes!

[paturoa]

I've been working my way through my list of stuff to take and focusing on NOT TAKING STUFF AND NOT TAKING JUST IN CASE STUFF!

And the pile is still huge. I think I'll have another galss of wine instead.

Ah - add a bottle of Port to the list.

[pomgolian]

You must be looking at a different Metvuw to me...


Clint is worried there won't be any rain at all, and it will ruin his "100% chance of rain" statistic.

Yeah Monday's weather DOH

P

[DR Girl]

200 already to go :2thumbsup :ride: . . . . along with some comfort choccy bars for the back pack.
Many thanks Night Falcon for your skills last night with my bark buster problem. An excellent job :niceone: Now LOL one choccy bar for Marty, one for me, one for Marty. . . .
Safe trip up & down everyone :yeah: & see you just after 8.00am on the corner of Puhokura Road.

Those joining us at Bay View BP, we will be off just after 6.15 so breakfast pie eaters may need to get there a little earlier :puke: ;) :lol:

[ducatijim]

Steekin frost here this morning, Rangi at 8am tomorrow is goin to be just fridgid! I bet it won't thaw all day amongst the big timber either?

Clint, maybe you should talk to the rain gods again- at least that would be warmer.

Take care everyone out on the Nap/Tpo early tomorrow.

Now, wheres my swanni?

[paturoa]

Packing the mule now and heading off before mid day. See you there.

[Shewolf]

Steekin frost here this morning, Rangi at 8am tomorrow is goin to be just fridgid! I bet it won't thaw all day amongst the big timber either?

nah we'll be fine....MMMMM 2010
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Trips/2010%20MMMM%20Ride/DSCN0709.jpg

[Rosie]

Right... I'm off :scooter:
See you all at the pub... if not before :apint:

[R650R]

One day Loop plans for Hawkes Bay riders are as follows if anyone wants to tag along.

I'm meeting Marty (Night Falcon) at his place at 5.50am in Havelock North. Glad to hear 'Jimbo' is able to join us also Marty:clap:
Then we will ride to BP Connect Bay View(open 24 hrs), arriving there 6.15am. Gas up. Meeting GrantWB there & anyone else who would like to join us, or who is staying over in Hawkes Bay for the night for MMMMM.
Wade, hear you've been in contact with Marty, great, & Bart/ Pomgolian what are your plans ?. If any other Hv Nth riders want to meet at Marty's, suggest you pm him. Remember to be as quiet as poss when arriving on Sat so we don't wake the kids or neighbours ;)
We will meet Clint, Rosie & the group at the corner of Pohokura Rd. We will be there by 7.50/8.00 am :grouphug:LOL

On the return, maybe a stop at the nice Cafe 287 just South of Wairoa (3kms on the left past Wairoa), this cafe is open till 4.00pm. . . . then a stop for a hot or cold one at Waikare Pub in Putorino?

Bugger that Canary word sounds like something that will become a nickname too easily lol. I forgot to mention that I will warn of ice patches by releasing a shower of sparks from which ever side of the bike is closest to the ground. Unfortunately this release of heat energy may not be sufficient to provide any extra traction for the next rider through...
Done a quick add up via google maps and some maths from clints km summary for us round trippers. Looks like 79km from Bayview to Pohukura rd, 134km from pohukura to waikaremoana (subtracting 11km off from pohukura to Rangataiki pub), giving a total of 213km for first leg of Napier round trippers as far as fuel goes.
See you lot at the BP bayview in the morning then. Be on a White DR650, black and flouro yellow riding gear.
That stop at Cafe 427 wairoa sounds like a great idea, been meaning to stop in there for ages. Putorino always a good atmosphere too.

[bart]

A group of us will be leaving Westshore camp at a more leisurely time of 6.50am :yawn:

I like my sleep. :zzzz:

[ducatijim]

nah we'll be fine....MMMMM 2010
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Trips/2010%20MMMM%20Ride/DSCN0709.jpg

OMG.......I've bin out of country for too long I think. Is it too l8 to change my mind?

[Night Falcon]

A group of us will be leaving Westshore camp at a more leisurely time of 6.50am :yawn:

I like my sleep. :zzzz:

Thats sounds way more civilized !

What do ya reckon DR Girl & others....meet up at Bayview BP at 6:50am cruz over with Bart and co? We all meet up at crosses/napier road intersection (by the bridge) at round 6.10?

[Eddieb]

Have fun everyone, wish I was going.

[DR Girl]

Thats sounds way more civilized !

What do ya reckon DR Girl & others....meet up at Bayview BP at 6:50am cruz over with Bart and co? We all meet up at crosses/napier road intersection (by the bridge) at round 6.10?

That's great by me. Glad Bart on to it :2thumbsup Thought we were getting a bit early re our leaving time Marty, then 'him in doors' was giving his time prediction & need for caution re ice. He doesn't realise how fast the 2hundy is with skis on :blip:
No need to worry though....as we now have the 'canary' ( yup, it's going to stick :lol:) to test the ice. Thanks buddy for that. Will be nice to meet you.

[GrantWB]

Thats sounds way more civilized !

What do ya reckon DR Girl & others....meet up at Bayview BP at 6:50am cruz over with Bart and co? We all meet up at crosses/napier road intersection (by the bridge) at round 6.10?

6.50am at Bayview BP sounds great.

[Night Falcon]

OMG.......I've bin out of country for too long I think. Is it too l8 to change my mind?

you'll be fine, that shot was taken in 2010. I have it on good authority it only gets that cold every 3years :shutup:

[Waipukbiker]

Just wishing everyone a great ride, Hope you all stay upright and I will be hanging out for the ride pics.
Im trying to picture outrigger skis on a DR200..lol

Have a good one

[DR Girl]

Just wishing everyone a great ride, Hope you all stay upright and I will be hanging out for the ride pics.
Im trying to picture outrigger skis on a DR200..lol

Have a good one

:lol: . . . Maybe I should be saying ice skates :msn-wink:
Thanks Ross for that :D

[DR Girl]

6.50am at Bayview BP sounds great.

Looking forward to that :)

[R650R]

Ohhh an extra 30mins sleep sounds ok by me :sleep: . See you all at 6.50 then or probably a bit earlier to grab a coffee so I've got an excuse to pull over just before the icy bits and hand over the pathfinder duties to someone else.
Dead calm in Napier big gaps on the isobars map, going to be a good frost, coming down on the car roof at 5pm already. You lose bugger all time slowing down in the suspect places so we should all make good time up there.
I live near the expressway so if there is another mutiny during the night I will hear you all thumping by in the morning while I'm having brekky and play catchup.

[pomgolian]

Thats sounds way more civilized !

What do ya reckon DR Girl & others....meet up at Bayview BP at 6:50am cruz over with Bart and co? We all meet up at crosses/napier road intersection (by the bridge) at round 6.10?

Just after 6am crosses bridge

P

[bart]

That's great by me. Glad Bart on to it :2thumbsup Thought we were getting a bit early re our leaving time Marty, then 'him in doors' was giving his time prediction & need for caution re ice. He doesn't realise how fast the 2hundy is with skis on :blip:
No need to worry though....as we now have the 'canary' ( yup, it's going to stick :lol:) to test the ice. Thanks buddy for that. Will be nice to meet you.

Cool. It'll only take about an hour. As long as we're on the road before 7, because the rest of the crew won't get to the turn off until 8.15ish.

2 years ago the ice wasn't too bad on the road until over the hills towards Rangitaiki. The frozen fog was a bigger issue. Riding visor up into that crap at negative temps wasn't fun. I don't think it'll be quite that bad tomorrow. Light rain in Taradale at the mo.

Right, I'd better put down my beer and go sort some gear out.

[DR Girl]

Cool. It'll only take about an hour. As long as we're on the road before 7, because the rest of the crew won't get to the turn off until 8.15ish.

2 years ago the ice wasn't too bad on the road until over the hills towards Rangitaiki. The frozen fog was a bigger issue. Riding visor up into that crap at negative temps wasn't fun. I don't think it'll be quite that bad tomorrow. Light rain in Taradale at the mo.

Right, I'd better put down my beer and go sort some gear out.

Thanks for that re leaving time.
Doing my gear (layers) now also. Catch you tomorrow :headbang:

[Howie]

2 years ago the ice wasn't too bad on the road until over the hills towards Rangitaiki. The frozen fog was a bigger issue. Riding visor up into that crap at negative temps wasn't fun. I don't think it'll be quite that bad tomorrow. Light rain in Taradale at the mo.

Right, I'd better put down my beer and go sort some gear out.

If I remember rightly you looked rather cold covered in a layer of Ice at Rangitaiki. Metservice are saying it's down to 2.7 degrees at the moment in Taupo. http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/taupo Forecast is -2 overnight. In 2010 it wasn't frosty in "taupo", but started to get frosty as soon as you started climbing out of Taupo on the Napier-taupo highway, and then into that lovely fog.

Enjoy yourselves, wish I could of made it this year.

[Night Falcon]

got my thermals sorted, new gloves and packed some spares just incase it gets wet, hopefully the 690 wont pack a sad in the morning. Looking forward to catching up with familiar faces and meeting some new ones. See yas tammora!!:niceone:

[Night Falcon]

Hardcore frost this morning. Excellent days riding.

[Night Falcon]

some more photos

[DR Girl]

You are on to it with the pics Marty. Well done :niceone::niceone:

A fast trip this time, not a lot of loose gravel & good weather. Nice to see so many old faces & the some new. I'm getting better with your names:banana:
Many many thanks Clint & Rosie for a great day. Have fun you lot tonight & safe riding tomorrow:):)
Hope you are not toooo sore tomorrow Gerrard.

[R650R]

Thanks for organising a great ride Clint, rosie and others involved. Sorry for those who thought I was surveying the scenery when I lost contact with you, an error on my part.
Best off-highway adventure so far in my books.

[Padmei]

Wow you guys are hardcore adv riders:apumpin:. I was tucked up till 830 then had to sit in front of the heatpump drinking coffees watching the Olympics. Glad you had a good day & hope tomm is as good.:2thumbsup

[Night Falcon]

Thanks for organising a great ride Clint, rosie and others involved. Sorry for those who thought I was surveying the scenery when I lost contact with you, an error on my part.
Best off-highway adventure so far in my books.

Glad you got home OK, we were a bit worried we'd left ya behind but all cool! :niceone:

[bart]

Well, I had to pull out early. Right boot was getting covered in oil (fork seal) so figured I'd better head closer to home, not further away. Had an awesome day anyway. Found the limits of my $10 back tyre in the challenge section. :2thumbsup

Sorry Matawai Hotel, but I'm sure someone will gladly take my bed and feed. The rest of you should be thankfull you haven't had to endure my legendary snoring. :sleep:

Thanks Clint and Rosie.

I got a few photos, but it might be a couple of days before I get them sorted.

[JATZ]

Wow you guys are hardcore adv riders:apumpin:. I was tucked up till 830 then had to sit in front of the heatpump drinking coffees watching the Olympics. Glad you had a good day & hope tomm is as good.:2thumbsup

You reeealy need to get out more fullah


Well, I had to pull out early. Right boot was getting covered in oil (fork seal) so figured I'd better head closer to home, not further away. Had an awesome day anyway. Found the limits of my $10 back tyre in the challenge section. :2thumbsup

.

I didn't even know you were there :gob: The ambient temp was -2 on the dash when I peeled off to get to Murapara, brrrrr .....chilly
Thanks Clint and Rosie, was a nice ride through to Minginui, maybe next time I'll be a bit more confident and exercise the throttle hand a bit more :D and do the full ride
Pics to come when I get home, prolly on my thread

[GSers]

You are on to it with the pics Marty. Well done :niceone::niceone:

Hope you are not toooo sore tomorrow Gerrard.

Well what can I say shit happens ( bugger ) I had been doing so well until now.
Arrived back in Palmy @ 6:45pm put the bike in the shed and unloaded it.
Got the bath running what could be better right.
Finally got my riding gear off.
Cancel the bath I think we are off to A&E 7:30pm
Well the good folks up at A&E pushed and prodded me shoulder and said that doesnt look good.
And then the questions what time did it happen I said about 10:00am the nurse said typical bloke wait for ages to come to the hospital
I said I only jut got back into town the long way round boy did I get a funny look.
So blood test Xrays 2 litres of fluids and they said you've busted your collar bone.
Busted me collar bone but I could already see that once I got me gear off.
No you busted it good its in 3 pieces you will have to come back and see the specialist next week.
Well its now just after 3:00am and just got home from the hospital.
Time for some tea
Drugs :lol::lol::lol:
Looks like I am walking for a while.
I just like to thank the Bay day riders for making sure I got down to the Bay OK
To Johnny for picking me up at the seen and to GPS Man for the offer of a ride home if I needed it.
Like I said if I had taken me jacket off I would never have gotten it back on again.
The helmet and gloves were bad enough
Hope the rest of you enjoyed the ride.
See you out there sooner rather than later if I get my way.
GSers

[GPS MAN]

WOW, I thought it was broken, but, not that bad:doctor:

Glad you made it home safe....I still think you should have taken me up on the ride home:nono:

If you will PM me with your phone # ~ I'll give you a bell the next time through Palmy and catch-up for a coffee...

I'm going to start calling you Stephen...."You know who you are"... One tough bloke!

[bart]

Wow man. That must've been over 300km of mostly back roads with a bung sholder. Hard bugger....:not:

Heal up quick.

[Night Falcon]

Hummm....so a little more damage than just a broken yamaha indicator GSer's! I must admit I was a little skeptical that you got off so lightly after I herd how hard you came off! You one tough cookie boy, hope you have a speedy recovery. I might be in Palmy end of next week (KTM long over due service) so if ya wanna catch up for coffee PM me ya number. Take care bro.

[Waihou Thumper]

Ouch! You deserve a bloody good well done :niceone:
Brave and tough matey. Heal well and fast! You certainly did it properly, three places? :clap:

[paturoa]

Left dorkland just before mid-day Friday and took a fairly scenic route to get to Rangatiki pub about 4pm. Jatz was there on his new (to him) 800GS and it was in stunning condition. Chris was the first there but not by much. Great pub, funny as a funny thing were Mr and Mrs publican. Dranks well too much and had a huge pork and veg roast dinner for $20. I'd not organised accomodation and the publican oferred a matress on the floor of the bar for $20 - deal!

Breakfast was a mountain meal and with pork and pickel roast sandwitches we set off into the frosty morning.

The first part of the track was OK as long as I kept the speed reasonable. The washouts across the road certainly bottomed out the suspenders and my new bash plate started made several loud gong noises.

The track through to Minginui was OK with my tyres as it was quite dry. Jatz headed home from there.

Pushed through to Waikaremoana and the mud on the road around the top side of the lake was a pain.

I shot down to Wairoa and grabbed some gas. Sent a txt home and checked the weather forecast for Sunday. Hmmm rain. I then back tracked a little and then too the sealed road to Tinirota, that was good fun.

From the pub it was great riding until Rakauroa road where they'd been dumping gravel in some places about 100mm deep. Just about got down for a close look a couple of times. :eek:

For the last bit back to Matawai I was tossing up if I was going to do the Sunday ride in the rain and decided to wimp out and head home. I was happily tucked in bed by 11pm.

Got some speeding tax on the way home too, 118 along the straights north of Matata. Nice enough cop, but he could have saved some oxygen on the lecture. Apparently I'd be slidhtly less dead if someone pulled out in front of me if I was doing 100 - go figure.

[paturoa]

Well, back to the knife fight bit. The strom handled almost all of the trip OK, except for the Anakee tyres, which where almost dangerous in some conditions, as the groves clogged with mud and the tyre became a slick!.

And here is the route for day 1.

[DR Girl]

WOW, I thought it was broken, but, not that bad:doctor:

Glad you made it home safe....I still think you should have taken me up on the ride home:nono:

If you will PM me with your phone # ~ I'll give you a bell the next time through Palmy and catch-up for a coffee...

I'm going to start calling you Stephen...."You know who you are"... One tough bloke!

Totally agree. You are one 'tough bloke' :yes::yes::yes:
You didn't let on at all during the ride or lunch how uncomfortable (in pain!!!) you were. You are a LEGEND.
Heal up fast & keep us up to date on your progress.

[Waihou Thumper]

Well, back to the knife fight bit. The strom handled almost all of the trip OK, except the Anakee tyres, whic where almost dangerous in some conditions as they the groves cloged and the tyre became a slick!.And here is the route for day 1.Needed those training wheels? like your avatar..Or big Knobs on the tyres..:)

[nic]

1. At the Minginui meet up point
2. Night Falcon
3. LOTS of bikes at Waikaramoana motor camp
4. Frosty start on Sunday

Another AWESOME ride :clap:

Heal quickly Gerrard!

[That looks like fun]

1366 kms :scooter: HONEY IM HOME :wari:
What an awesome weekend. A big thankyou to Clint and Rosie, once again a well organised and run ride.
Special mention to my partner in crime without who's help Bruce the Farmer would have caught both of us in his mudhole :o
My arse hurts from that bike seat but I bet your shoulder is worse Gerrard, Heal fast mate, look forward to seeing you on another ride soon. :niceone:

[Phreaky Phil]

Hi folks, activated my Spot Tracker this afternoon and did some ok tests. I am getting the emails through and one of the SMS messages. It's a Telecom number that starts 021. The other 3 numbers are 027 and none of those came through.
Any ideas ?

[That looks like fun]

Hi folks, activated my Spot Tracker this afternoon and did some ok tests. I am getting the emails through and one of the SMS messages. It's a Telecom number that starts 021. The other 3 numbers are 027 and none of those came through.
Any ideas ?
Fix it mate :headbang:

[Shewolf]

ouch sorry to hear Gser's... you are staunch aye :headbang:

That was freaky awesome riding this weekend!! Thanks Clint and Rosie...you guys are the best :banana:

Didn't take that many photos, a bit vid to come

1. corralled for the night
2. This box is in bits

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[igormortis]

Hi folks, activated my Spot Tracker this afternoon and did some ok tests. I am getting the emails through and one of the SMS messages. It's a Telecom number that starts 021. The other 3 numbers are 027 and none of those came through.
Any ideas ?

Are you saying that one of your specified numbers is getting the notifications and not the others? Check that they are all entered in the same format.

I had a similar situation with ours - can’t remember offhand what the solution was but I’ll go back and have a look at my settings. I think it had something to do with how the country code was specified.

[Eddieb]

2. This box is in bits


I get told off for taking pics like that

[BMWST?]

I get told off for taking pics like that

further choke mods eh?

[Shewolf]

oh yeah he gave me a look but then I ran really really fast :devil2:


I get told off for taking pics like that

[Horney1]

........
So blood test Xrays 2 litres of fluids and they said you've busted your collar bone.
Busted me collar bone but I could already see that once I got me gear off.
No you busted it good its in 3 pieces you will have to come back and see the specialist next week.
..............
GSers


Good going, staunch effort dude! :Punk: Let it heal well before stressing it too much.

[Crisis management]

Well the Jaffa's (that I know of) all got back in one piece, that was the best riding conditions I've ever had on the MMMM, it was great to have the tme to enjoy the view and the weather was perfect, crisp and clear ish (once the fog was lifted... ) Talking of fog, I was sitting up on the first hill after starting the Motu and looking back at this sea of fog with a lime green ufo floating through it... it eventually became Jamies helemt, a great piece of HI-vis!

Friday: Great ride down the west coast to Pio Pio and met my Nemesis there..Colin! We did a mini liquefaction tour of three farmers backyard following a paper road (standing knee deep in mud with Colin pointing to a blank GPS screen saying "look I can see the road, can't you?") Having let all the air out of the rear I managed to find some traction and we only had to carry the bikes through one bog, all in all well worth doing. We passed on trying the northern Pureoro tracks afte that. Got to the lodge about 6 and told lies about how brave we had been.

Saturday: As I said previously a great ride and lovely conditions, the tracks were all clean and hard packed so fast and easy to ride on, the forestry was great! I did my usual on the challenge section, stalled bike, legs too short, why am I lying on the ground? Good to see so many bikes going through the challenge, it's a great way to deflate your ego! The rest of the ride was equally awesome, did all the extra bits and the views were magnificent, riding the ridgeline after Tiniroto was neat, I even got in some cow herding practice while I chatted to a farmer (I'm not so sure my help was appreciated but he was rolling around with laughter so I probably brightened up his day).

Best stretch of road for me was the last bit of gravel into Matawai, lots of loose stuff and it suits the 640 perfectly, a perfect day.

Sunday: Motu, what more is there to say, absolutely picturesque and a great ride, frosts, livestock, ufos', camper vans, what more could you want?
We turned north at Awakeri via some back roads towards Taurange (thanks Nick) but not before almost getting cleaned out by a tractor blowing a stop sign, despite narrowly missing killing two people the driver didn't stop, just abused us and kept going. I think Chris and Als' heart rates might just have reached normal levels this morning, not very nice.

Got home for 5, narrowly missing the rain so I'm sorry Clint, but it was only mildly moist this time!

Thanks for the organising Clint & Rosie and for the company the rest of you, heal up quickly those with injuries.

Iain

[.chris]

The few photos I took can be found in the link below.


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Thanks to Clint and Rosie for a great ride. A great ride and great event to catch up with everyone, and to meet some new faces.

[.chris]

A quick video from the gopro (photo sequence 5 second inverval timelapse) running into Waikeremoana.

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[Beem02]

Made it back to Wellington just after 10pm, via the gravel roads just north of Rotoma, Rotoehu lakes, then down through Mamaku forest - boy does it rain in there! Was also pretty cold through a wet desert road after dark!

Total of 1700km for the 3 days, including 800km yesterday. Must admit I'd had enough of the stock DR seat by the time I got home last night. Will have to investigate an aftermarket alternative.

Thanks Clint and Rosie for organising a great ride :clap:
and to everyone else for good company on the trip

See you again some time - Bruce

[Rosie]

It was an excellent ride :cool:
Thank you to everyone for coming along.

Feedback on the GPS route was good (luckily, since I hadn't tested it), so we will be keeping that option in future.

We were pretty lucky with the weather, yesterday the rain didn't set in until Clint was going outside to wash his bike :nya:

A note to other ride organisers: The bright pink hi-vis was great for tail-end-charlie-ing. The corner men could see me coming a mile away, so the forest section flowed really well.

[Cary]

Great weekend all round, thanks again to Clint & Rosie :niceone:
Good to catch up with everyone again. Roads were in primo nic and don't think you'd find any better days riding than we did on Saturday!

The short off road loop we did near the end was a good(read, hot and sweaty!) way to finish off the weekend. (cheers for the Husky ride to Mark)

Sure was good coming back to Auckland in the van today :)

Pic 1. Stopping for sheep.
2. Gas cue for fuel at Waikeremoana
3. Stewart on Wai' road
4. Minganui Forest
5. Andy
6. Waiting for Matawai fuel to open up.

[Box'a'bits]

Pomgolian & I made another run thru the Forestry from the Minginui end on the way home. Made it Home to Wellington 9.15pm, from Opotiki. Only a light mist of rain at Dannevirke. 1591km for the weekend.

My ride report & photos are here (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19242483&postcount=975), or check all of my photos for the weekend here (http://picasaweb.google.com/111498450837388124928/20120730MMMM2012#).

Thanks for the weekend Clint & Rosie.

[pomgolian]

Great weekend Clint & Rosie & everyone else i met new & old.

Checked out Motu falls on Sunday after a fast ride following Cary through the first gravel of the day, then a cruise through the Motu road what a great track. Ride home in great weather filled up in Murupara then back through the forest with boxabits from Minginui to SH5 which seemed so much longer north south, big ride home boxabits thought you would stop half way.

P

[Shewolf]

no cows, dogs or Colins were injured in the making of this video


http://youtu.be/KId9RKqLyvo

[DR Girl]

Great Video Shewolf :clap: Where's that swing bridge? We missed it :(

[Shewolf]

Great Video Shewolf :clap: Where's that swing bridge? We missed it :(

It was just North of the store down a side road to Lake Waikaremoana Walk and a landing area

hey did anyone get a photo of Rosie at Rosie Bay?

[clint640]

Good stuff guys, thanks to all who came along & made it a great weekend.

Rosie & my pics are up on adv: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19249791#post19249791

A note to anyone who intends to revist the 'challenge section' at Minginui, please take it easy through there, parts of it are a designated mountain bike track & if it gets rarked up by too many idiots DOC may very well close it off to vehicles.

Cheers
Clint

[Night Falcon]

Great Video Shewolf :clap: Where's that swing bridge? We missed it :(

by special invitation only by Shewolf & Nic scenic tours:shifty:

[DR Girl]

by special invitation only by Shewolf & Nic scenic tours:shifty:

LOL :laugh:
Girls can I be your BFF next year ? ;) :grouphug::drinknsin

[bart]

I've been busy, so haven't got far with photos. Here's a few from early Saturday:

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[suzieq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWsjCFlFTwo&list=UU-pJEGd0DyxTTbN_e0ZOFeA&index=1&feature=plcp

Working and not much time to spare, but wishing to do the FULL ride in the one day as heading back to work on the Sunday, Jim and Nigel left Taupo very early mng to take it all in.

Thanks to Clint and Rosie for the immense amount of Ride Prep work and the organising in general for what is now an EPIC event.


S Q

[bart]

A few more:

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[clint640]

Good stuff Bart! The pic of Paturoa is particularly cool.

Cheers
Clint

[Gremlin]

A few more:
Nice shots! Got a higher res shot of the 2nd one? My GSA?

[bart]

Nice shots! Got a higher res shot of the 2nd one? My GSA?

Cheers,

I'll put up a link to some bigger versions later.

Here's another one you might like....

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[bart]

A few more...

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[bart]

More..........

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[bart]

More....

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[bart]

Hard man...:not:

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af29/bart-nz/misc/IMG_7618.jpg

[mikemike104]

The horses don't seem too fussed by it all.

[bart]

Larger versions of these and many more photos over here:

http://sdrv.ms/OKgDuf

Right click and 'view original' is the easiest way.

Cheers,
Bart

[gunnyrob]

Well done all, looks like you had bucket's 'o fun!

Been head down knuckling into Uni assignments. Last one due this weekend, so hopefully will be a ble to play sometime soonish.

[Gremlin]

Larger versions of these and many more photos over here:

http://sdrv.ms/OKgDuf
:clap: Mint shots, I saved several of them... change that sig of yours to taking snaps of others showing off ;)

[R650R]

Larger versions of these and many more photos over here:

http://sdrv.ms/OKgDuf

Right click and 'view original' is the easiest way.

Cheers,
Bart

Great pics Bart, found myself there in amongst the ones in the link. Appreciate the effort you've gone to being a bit of a photographer myself. Nice to be able to enjoy the ride while someone else gets the shots.

[bart]

:clap: Mint shots, I saved several of them... change that sig of yours to taking snaps of others showing off ;)

When I'm on the other side of the lens, I usually do something stupid and fall off. ;)


Great pics Bart, found myself there in amongst the ones in the link. Appreciate the effort you've gone to being a bit of a photographer myself. Nice to be able to enjoy the ride while someone else gets the shots.

No probs. This sort of photography's a bit like fishing. You never know what you're going to get. After a ride, I can't wait to get home and have a look at what I've captured.

I'm still a bit annoyed I didn't complete the whole ride. Bloody fork seals. :brick:

[bart]

no cows, dogs or Colins were injured in the making of this video



Great vid Shewolf. Finally got a chance to have a look at it. :clap:

Anyone else get the shits by that grader?

[Steelie]

Anyone else get the shits by that grader?

Yup, a few swear words said when greeting the grader round a blind corner.

Whilst im at it , great ride, certainly lived up to past reports. Thanks to all.

[paturoa]

Anyone else get the shits by that grader?

Yeah, I was one of the first away from the lunch / lake. I came around the cormer and he was on my side of the road. I then tried to signal to the driver that there were a lot more bikes heading this way. He just looked at me like "huh?"

Spose thats why he drives a grader and we ride bikes.

[Waipukbiker]

As a matter of interest, if there are grader warning signs up then the grader has right of way while its got its blade down irrespective on where it is on the road. I know some don't bother with the signs but they should put them up. I grew up on country roads and one of my jobs at the mo is driving trucks and trailers doing maint on country roads and if Im spreading with the decks up then I am always in the centre of the road or the truck is on the outside of the corners with the trailer tracking around the inside. Ive gone around blind corners on shingle and country tar seal roads and have met the following on the wrong side, trucks, school buses, farmers in utes or bikes stopped and chatting, sheep, cows, pigs, graders, deer, goats, farmers wives in SUVs (Sorry ladies but they are the worst) . Tourists on heavily loaded push bikes, Motorbike riders and to top it off, once I came across 2 mums pushing babies in mountain buggies ( I kid you not) and when you are in 45 tons of truck and trailer life can get interesting real quick.

So please people, never assume on a country road, anything can be around a corner including a sheep or goat or even a turkey can jump down off a bank behind the bike in front of you. Thats why I tend to be a slower rider on shingle simply because I have seen all of the above happen.

Reality is, irrespective of the law, on a country road, Size Rules.

Ride safe

[Waihou Thumper]

goat or even a turkey can jump down off a bank behind the bike in front of you. Bloody Adventure riders taking short cuts again, huh? :nono:

[Night Falcon]

As a matter of interest, if there are grader warning signs up then the grader has right of way while its got its blade down irrespective on where it is on the road. I know some don't bother with the signs but they should put them up. I grew up on country roads and one of my jobs at the mo is driving trucks and trailers doing maint on country roads and if Im spreading with the decks up then I am always in the centre of the road or the truck is on the outside of the corners with the trailer tracking around the inside. Ive gone around blind corners on shingle and country tar seal roads and have met the following on the wrong side, trucks, school buses, farmers in utes or bikes stopped and chatting, sheep, cows, pigs, graders, deer, goats, farmers wives in SUVs (Sorry ladies but they are the worst) . Tourists on heavily loaded push bikes, Motorbike riders and to top it off, once I came across 2 mums pushing babies in mountain buggies ( I kid you not) and when you are in 45 tons of truck and trailer life can get interesting real quick.

So please people, never assume on a country road, anything can be around a corner including a sheep or goat or even a turkey can jump down off a bank behind the bike in front of you. Thats why I tend to be a slower rider on shingle simply because I have seen all of the above happen.

Reality is, irrespective of the law, on a country road, Size Rules.

Ride safe

I once came round a corner on a gravel road and met a combined harvester. It was so big it took up both the right and wrong side of the road. I ALWAYS slow way down on corners when I cant see whats round them. Most other riders nearly always over take me at that point which I'm more than happy for them to do :devil2: And for the record there were no grader warning signs!!

[Box'a'bits]

I like to ride towards the back. That way no one can see my shit lines. :( And I don't hold anyone up. I like to have things happen ahead of me, & not to be taken out by something happening behind me.

And most importantly, there will be several crash test dummies ahead of me. :innocent:

[Pampera]

And most importantly, there will be several crash test dummies ahead of me. :innocent:

"For a crash test dummy, every day is an accident waiting to happen".

Michael