How is NZ these days?

[coteesh]

Thinking about moving to NZ sometime in the next few years again.... how's the economy doing there for engineering ?? Is the world recession affecting things much?

Calgary, AB, Canada is doing better than most places aparently, that is where I'm camping out for now. New Zealand is where I should live some day, it's calling me...

[unstuck]

You can do well anywhere, with the right attitude.:msn-wink:

[coteesh]

You can do well anywhere, with the right attitude.:msn-wink:

100% agree. I think it really is mostly attitude, and some worth ethic and never give up on what you love to do.

[Tigadee]

how's the economy doing there for engineering ?? Is the world recession affecting things much?

If you''re a structural engineer, there's work here in consultancy. If you're in other areas, it's slow. Other than slowly gearing up for the Chch rebuild and building interest in new areas of clean technology (marine, hydro, wind, geothermal), it's a plateau at the moment.

[unstuck]

There are a couple of engineering firms down here that are doing remarkably well, mostly to do with the dairy industry though.:Punk:

[Road kill]

We have engineers coming out our ears plus a shit load coming straight from uni that can't find work anywhere other than Mc Donalds.
NZ is currently fulling up with immigrants from failed shit holes like South Africa and the UK that have no personal investment in our country and even less loyalty than they did for the places they ran away from in the first place,,,so take a ticket an stand in line you'll fit in well.

[Tigadee]

We have engineers coming out our ears plus a shit load coming straight from uni that can't find work anywhere other than Mc Donalds.
NZ is currently fulling up with immigrants from failed shit holes like South Africa and the UK that have no personal investment in our country and even less loyalty than they did for the places they ran away from in the first place,,,so take a ticket an stand in line you'll fit in well.

But don't you see, that's why the Gubbermint set off a atomic bomb under Christchurch, so that suddenly there'll be demand for new engineers... Good thing for me I got my tin foil hat on, otherwise they can read my mind right now.

Shhhhhhhh!<_< When the blue fox flies over the pale moon, dancing cows will play the fiddle and eat tofu cookies...

[puddytat]

Go to Aussie....

[SMOKEU]

NZ is currently fulling up with immigrants from failed shit holes like South Africa and the UK that have no personal investment in our country and even less loyalty than they did for the places they ran away from in the first place,,,so take a ticket an stand in line you'll fit in well.

Any country with that many niggers is going to be shit. If you actually lived in South Africa you'd understand why I came over here to flee the violence the country is suffering from, but you're either too stupid or ignorant to understand that.

[98tls]

We have engineers coming out our ears plus a shit load coming straight from uni that can't find work anywhere other than Mc Donalds.
NZ is currently fulling up with immigrants from failed shit holes like South Africa and the UK that have no personal investment in our country and even less loyalty than they did for the places they ran away from in the first place,,,so take a ticket an stand in line you'll fit in well.

:laugh:Fella you need to wake up,NZ has long been full of natives that have no personal investment in our country and even less interest in giving a fuck,at least many of the immigrants have the means to feed themselves and and an interest in getting up in the morning to go to a job.

[SMOKEU]

:laugh:Fella you need to wake up,NZ has long been full of natives that have no personal investment in our country and even less interest in giving a fuck,at least many of the immigrants have the means to feed themselves and and an interest in getting up in the morning to go to a job.

The best part is that they're not even a native species to NZ, yet they act like they are.

[Brett]

NZ is currently fulling up with immigrants from failed shit holes like South Africa and the UK that have no personal investment in our country and even less loyalty than they did for the places they ran away from in the first place,,,so take a ticket an stand in line you'll fit in well.

No personal investment...you're full of shite!
1) many immigrants slog their guts out to make NZ a new home, including bringing capital from 'home' to invest in businesses here is NZ. That's called creating jobs buddy.
2) Less loyalty to NZ than where they (we...I am SA'n) were...Actually, I am very loyal to both SA and NZ. I appreciate NZ for what it gave me, I also love SA and wish it were a better place than what it presently is to that I could have stayed there, in the place that will always be my homeland. However, my wife is a kiwi and my kids will be kiwi's and there are many things I love about NZ and I will continue to invest time and energy into being an active and productive part of this community. More so than some kiwi's do! Besides, someone has to come in and replace all the kiwi's bailing to Aussie!

The fact is, there is a portion of the population here, and in fact anywhere in the world, that is closed minded and unaware of the facts, only wanting to see things through your prejudiced view point. Well yay for you, I am sure you see all sorts of positive things all around you.

[arkeo]

We have engineers coming out our ears [...]

So, maybe it is all for the best... It is some time I think to move in NZ and hoped that being structural / earthquake eng. and having got a PhD in such field, there were some room for people like me. It is difficult to make a choice only when pro and cons are nearly balanced but job troubles are great cons :laugh:

[SMOKEU]

2) (we...I am SA'n) were...Actually, I am very loyal to both SA and NZ. I appreciate NZ for what it gave me, I also love SA and wish it were a better place than what it presently is to that I could have stayed there, in the place that will always be my homeland.

Well, we're not kaffirs, are we?

[Tigadee]

Neither am I, bru...

[Jezxa]

Calgary, AB, Canada is doing better than most places aparently, that is where I'm camping out for now. New Zealand is where I should live some day, it's calling me...

Funny you say that actually. I know a product development engineer here who is planning to move to Canada sometime this year.

[gammaguy]

Any country with that many niggers is going to be shit. If you actually lived in South Africa you'd understand why I came over here to flee the violence the country is suffering from, but you're either too stupid or ignorant to understand that.

last i heard,it belonged to the "niggers"before the white folks got there.

[Road kill]

:laugh:Fella you need to wake up,NZ has long been full of natives that have no personal investment in our country and even less interest in giving a fuck,at least many of the immigrants have the means to feed themselves and and an interest in getting up in the morning to go to a job.

The natives as you call them had plenty of interest,in fact their whole culture was the country until they made the same mistake that modern day kiwis are doing now.
You learn nothing from history,,,your doomed to repeat it.

[Road kill]

Any country with that many niggers is going to be shit. If you actually lived in South Africa you'd understand why I came over here to flee the violence the country is suffering from, but you're either too stupid or ignorant to understand that.

It was "your" type of Saffa that created the problems,,,not the natives.
See, I have been to SA and I have a lot of friends that live both here and there so I,ve seen some and heard the stories.
The one thing that always comes across very strong to an outsider looking in,over there as in the NZ situation was that your people and mainly the English in NZ actualy stole and murdered everything and everybody they could get away with,and now people like you today attempt to hold yourself above the natives of those countries you stole and who's cultures you tried to destroy.
SA's like you,,,Your nothing but scum yourself and your not welcome in my country,,so how about doing what a couple of SA's I've known that got home sick did,,,go back, because you've already proven that your simply not of this land.
Hey how about going back to your real homeland in Europe,,,,Oh yeah that's right ,,they won't have you,,sorry.
BTW,,sorry to admit this to a shit head like you,but unlike you and your "Kaffas' or what ever you call them,,,I don't simply hate all SA's or immigrants,,I just believe our country doesn't need them when we have well educated young people being over looked in the work place in favour of these people already.
look around the world today and see the problems that are created by to many immigrants on an existing culture.
Do the honest thing and "you" won't have to look far will you?

[willytheekid]

:shit:...what a hate filled thread!

Great way to promote our beautiful country to our new canadian mate <_< (he asked a simple question and you lot get all racist n shit:no:)

Come on over Coteesh, our economy is pritty shit to be honest :laugh: (our pay rates are very low compared to most other countrys)
BUT...it really is a beautiful country!, great riding, nice freindly people (usually!...ignore the crazies on here) our weather is ok and there IS work to be found if you have the right attitude and really want it.

please ignore the "hoser's" posting here (I think thats how its spelt ehhh lol)

[merv]

Ssshhhh - quiet, keep telling him its a shithole and that immigrants here already regret coming. That way we can keep it to ourselves and it won't get overpopulated too quickly.

[jonbuoy]

We have engineers coming out our ears plus a shit load coming straight from uni that can't find work anywhere other than Mc Donalds.
NZ is currently fulling up with immigrants from failed shit holes like South Africa and the UK that have no personal investment in our country and even less loyalty than they did for the places they ran away from in the first place,,,so take a ticket an stand in line you'll fit in well.

That sums up the attitude of a lot of people in NZ towards immigrants, regardless of how hard working/hassle free they are.

Go for a long holiday see the sights enjoy yourself, tick the seen NZ box and leave with a good impression of the people and country.

[Flip]

:shit:...what a hate filled thread!

Great way to promote our beautiful country to our new canadian mate <_< (he asked a simple question and you lot get all racist n shit:no:)

Come on over Coteesh, our economy is pritty shit to be honest :laugh: (our pay rates are very low compared to most other countrys)
BUT...it really is a beautiful country!, great riding, nice freindly people (usually!...ignore the crazies on here) our weather is ok and there IS work to be found if you have the right attitude and really want it.

please ignore the "hoser's" posting here (I think thats how its spelt ehhh lol)

+1

NZ is an extremely beautiful country full of interesting people, the majority of are not biggoted morons. My Grandfather went to war to wipe national socialism off the face of the earth, he got most of them, but a few hid and got away. I am very proud of what my Grandfather achieved.

I'm a mechanical engineer, I have spent most of my working life in the boiler, fuel and gas industry I am now the engineering and ops manager for irrigation company (just a lot of big arse pipes and pumps). I have never been unemployed and I love what I do. I looked at working in the US and the UK not long ago and they were not paying any more than I get here. Actually the pay rates in the UK in the gas industry were pretty poor.

[Tigadee]

It was "your" type of Saffa that created the problems,,,not the natives.

Yet the natives are freely robbing, chopping, maiming, raping, pillaging, mass murdering one another even years after. The problems were always there, and it's most likely the white man suppressed it for a while and even nurtured it to play one group against the other, but it's always been there.


See, I have been to SA and I have a lot of friends that live both here and there so I,ve seen some and heard the stories.

Stories from one perspective, Can you honestly say you know all sides of the story? Truth from one perspective is skewed truth, even if it has some historical basis. Often actions and facts can be frequently exaggerated. Were all Germans Nazis? Were all Italians fascists? Were all Russians Communists? Were all SAs enslavers?


The one thing that always comes across very strong to an outsider looking in,over there as in the NZ situation was that your people and mainly the English in NZ actualy stole and murdered everything and everybody they could get away with,and now people like you today attempt to hold yourself above the natives of those countries you stole and who's cultures you tried to destroy.

Many of these cultures suffered but they were neither destroyed nor killed off entirely. But what they do now for themselves is entirely up to them, not living on hatred and finger-pointing. One day, the Maoris will wake up and realise that they are destroying their own rich culture with booze, drugs and apathy. Same for the Africans - they will realise that clinging to the past will not let them move forward.


BTW, sorry to admit this to a shit head like you,but unlike you and your "Kaffas' or what ever you call them,,,I don't simply hate all SA's or immigrants,

Kaffirs is the derogatory term the Afrikaans used for the black man. You could have fooled us...


I just believe our country doesn't need them when we have well educated young people being over looked in the work place in favour of these people already.

Unfortunately, many well-educated young people want more money and aren't interested to earn it the hard way. I see too many who want to be a full-fledged workman, electrician, carpenter, etc, without going through the training period or apprenticeship. They want things now: Money, car, job title, ipad/ipod/iphone, easy life. Many immigrants come from hard lives where they were with nothing or next to nothing, and appreciate NZ for the opportunity they have been given, and so are willing to slog to make a better life for themselves and their families.

I'm afraid even if the opportunities existed solely for NZ's well-educated young people, they may not be interested, and will be lured away to Aus anyway... Too many, for example, are attracted to the service industry, finding that more alluring/glamourous and the work simple. Jobs in engineering, science, technology are not as appealing to them, so guess why immigrants are then used to fill in those positions?


look around the world today and see the problems that are created by to many immigrants on an existing culture.

True, especially when those immigrants refuse to adapt - even in some ways - to the host culture. That is why there is a lot of friction in countries in Europe.

[Flip]

We have engineers coming out our ears plus a shit load coming straight from uni that can't find work anywhere other than Mc Donalds.
NZ is currently fulling up with immigrants from failed shit holes like South Africa and the UK that have no personal investment in our country and even less loyalty than they did for the places they ran away from in the first place,,,so take a ticket an stand in line you'll fit in well.

Send a few of those spare engineers down here where it is cold.

The problem with the uni's is they throw out graduates with BEs that know nothing about engineering in the real world. I have broken my fair share of grads over the years, like any group some have done well and some have struggled. There is at least 10-20 years good solid work coming up in Canterbury for all kinds of engineers.

[gammaguy]

Send a few of those spare engineers down here where it is cold.

The problem with the uni's is they throw out graduates with BEs that know nothing about engineering in the real world. I have broken my fair share of grads over the years, like any group some have done well and some have struggled. There is at least 10-20 years good solid work coming up in Canterbury for all kinds of engineers.

the speed of the rebuild being what it is,I think you are right on the money there

[SMOKEU]

It was "your" type of Saffa that created the problems,,,not the natives.
See, I have been to SA and I have a lot of friends that live both here and there so I,ve seen some and heard the stories.
The one thing that always comes across very strong to an outsider looking in,over there as in the NZ situation was that your people and mainly the English in NZ actualy stole and murdered everything and everybody they could get away with,and now people like you today attempt to hold yourself above the natives of those countries you stole and who's cultures you tried to destroy.
SA's like you,,,Your nothing but scum yourself and your not welcome in my country,,so how about doing what a couple of SA's I've known that got home sick did,,,go back, because you've already proven that your simply not of this land.
Hey how about going back to your real homeland in Europe,,,,Oh yeah that's right ,,they won't have you,,sorry.
BTW,,sorry to admit this to a shit head like you,but unlike you and your "Kaffas' or what ever you call them,,,I don't simply hate all SA's or immigrants,,I just believe our country doesn't need them when we have well educated young people being over looked in the work place in favour of these people already.
look around the world today and see the problems that are created by to many immigrants on an existing culture.
Do the honest thing and "you" won't have to look far will you?

That's the funniest post I've read in ages. I'm not planning on leaving NZ any time soon either. Would you like to have a cry about it?

PS - next time you make a feeble attempt to insult my intelligence, you would be doing yourself a favour by learning how to use proper paragraphs and punctuation.

[Road kill]

We've all read enough of your intelligence to know your a fuck wit.
Save it for somebody that hasn't read your bile already, your wasting your time here.

[SMOKEU]

We've all read enough of your intelligence to know your a fuck wit.
Save it for somebody that hasn't read your bile already, your wasting your time here.

Learn to spell properly before you attempt to insult my intelligence, retard.

[Flip]

Says it all.

[Road kill]

Learn to spell properly before you attempt to insult my intelligence, retard.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
What's it like having no home land cock smoker.
Darkies got the better of ya' did they:bleh::bleh:
Most fun I've had all week,,,,cheers:niceone:

[Indiana_Jones]

Send a few of those spare engineers down here where it is cold.

The problem with the uni's is they throw out graduates with BEs that know nothing about engineering in the real world. I have broken my fair share of grads over the years, like any group some have done well and some have struggled. There is at least 10-20 years good solid work coming up in Canterbury for all kinds of engineers.

I'm in civil myself, things have been a bit quiet over the last year but we're getting busier now. Hopefully once I've finished my diploma (the new NZCE for the older chaps) I may have a stint in Christchurch.

I just found out I'll be working on Waterview till the end of the year now.

-Indy

[Ocean1]

I'm in civil myself

What's the difference between a civil engineer and a mechanical engineer?

[SMOKEU]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
What's it like having no home land cock smoker.
Darkies got the better of ya' did they:bleh::bleh:
Most fun I've had all week,,,,cheers:niceone:

I never said that I don't have a "home land".

Is "cock smoker" the best insult you can fabricate? It sounds like nothing more than school yard slander.

[Indiana_Jones]

What's the difference between a civil engineer and a mechanical engineer?

One makes weapons, the other makes targets lol :D

-Indy

[merv]

What's the difference between a civil engineer and a mechanical engineer?

When I was at Uni way back the mechanical engineers were the ones whose trousers legs were a bit short.

[Berries]

What's the difference between a civil engineer and a mechanical engineer?
One designs the hole, the other designs the machine that digs it?


When I was at Uni way back the mechanical engineers were the ones whose trousers legs were a bit short.
I'd agree with that. They had a funny oily smell about them as well.

[Ocean1]

One makes weapons, the other makes targets lol :D

-Indy

Ordnance. Very good.


When I was at Uni way back the mechanical engineers were the ones whose trousers legs were a bit short.


I'd agree with that. They had a funny oily smell about them as well.

Those are jokes, eh?

[Tigadee]

I just found out I'll be working on Waterview till the end of the year now.

Nice! Awesome project to be part of!


One designs the hole, the other designs the machine that digs it?

Pretty much!

[merv]

Those are jokes, eh?

No, in my case true story, they really were like that compared to us civil guys.

[arkeo]

One makes weapons, the other makes targets lol :D

-Indy

ah ah ah ah ah :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Robert Taylor]

You can do well anywhere, with the right attitude.:msn-wink:

That is exactly right!

Its just a shame that like many countries we have pressure groups ad infinitum everyday wanting off the Government more funding for this and that. Everyday ''the Government is not putting enough money into this''. For gods sake where does it all come from???

THERE IS NO MORE MONEY, THERE IS NO MORE MONEY, THERE IS NO MORE MONEY. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Subike]

That is exactly right!

Its just a shame that like many countries we have pressure groups ad infinitum everyday wanting off the Government more funding for this and that. Everyday ''the Government is not putting enough money into this''. For gods sake where does it all come from???

THERE IS NO MORE MONEY, THERE IS NO MORE MONEY, THERE IS NO MORE MONEY. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We should have know this would happen Robert,
the majority of the wage stealers, (earners work for it) are children of the benefit system
their whole lives have been , "" if you cant , then the government will subsidize it"" as mommy on the DPB taught them
Now that there really is NO MORE MONEY, the little babies are all crying

[Tigadee]

Be a trust fund manager - Big salaries, luxury homes, and sports cars as part of your bonus, steal a few mil and run away to Aus and claim that life is hard living on 'only' $7,000 a month's allowance (all while the families who invested in the trust fund are broke and starving)...

If convicted, get a few months in jail, pay a pitifully small fine and serve some hours community service, while going for free taxpayer-paid counselling. After your sentence is done, sell your story to tabloids, and a book on 'how not to invest' to publishers, and teach 'creative' accounting at the local university or institute.

[jasonu]

Thinking about moving to NZ sometime in the next few years again.... how's the economy doing there for engineering ?? Is the world recession affecting things much?

Calgary, AB, Canada is doing better than most places aparently, that is where I'm camping out for now. New Zealand is where I should live some day, it's calling me...

I was there 3 yrs ago and found the general day to day cost of living really expensive. Stuff like milk, bread, cheese, veg, gas, smokes (if you do), beer, eating out all atleast twice the cost of Oregon and other parts of the states I have visited. Vehicles cost a lot as does insurance. You will pay a lot more mortgage interest if you take out a loan to buy a house. Generally, dollar for dollar you are better in Canada (or the states too). If you can get a high paying job then this shouldn't be a problem.
Having said all that I miss the place and would move home tomorrow if circumstances allowed.

[jasonu]

Ssshhhh - quiet, keep telling him its a shithole and that immigrants here already regret coming. That way we can keep it to ourselves and it won't get overpopulated too quickly.

Too late...

[unstuck]

I was there 3 yrs ago and found the general day to day cost of living really expensive. Stuff like milk, bread, cheese, veg, gas, smokes (if you do), beer, eating out all atleast twice the cost of Oregon and other parts of the states I have visited. Vehicles cost a lot as does insurance. You will pay a lot more mortgage interest if you take out a loan to buy a house. Generally, dollar for dollar you are better in Canada (or the states too). If you can get a high paying job then this shouldn't be a problem.
Having said all that I miss the place and would move home tomorrow if circumstances allowed.

The price you pay to live in paradise.:msn-wink: Helps to keep SOME of the riff raff out.:Punk: