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Maido
17th May 2012, 07:59
http://www.nzsbk.com/2012/05/2013-new-zealand-road-race-championship.html

The 2013 dates are:
Round 1 Ruapuna 5th and 6th of January
Round 2 Levels, 12th and 13th of January
Round 3 Teretonga 19th and 20th January
Round 4 Hampton Downs 16th and 17th March
Round 5 Taupo 23rd and 24th March

Congrats to MNZ for having them out so early. It is honestly a huge help!

lukemillar
17th May 2012, 08:00
Still no Manfeild :no: Is it because no club wants to run the event?

CHOPPA
17th May 2012, 09:16
Look very good, im pleased Taupo is in there. It was a great meeting

gammaguy
17th May 2012, 10:08
i suspect the logistics of running manfeild compared with the return(if any)mean no one wants to run it

same old same old,I used to have the same issues when I was in the Vic club in the 80's

Deano
17th May 2012, 11:37
My bloody collarbone had better be healed by then ! Before the tri series even !

neil_cb125t
17th May 2012, 12:05
My bloody collarbone had better be healed by then ! Before the tri series even !

You'll be fine deano, mine only took 11months for the two bones to stop moving around. (was the longest collarbone case in ACC history)

Maido
17th May 2012, 12:37
You'll be fine deano, mine only took 11months for the two bones to stop moving around. (was the longest collarbone case in ACC history)
that sounds annoying, surely you think they would pin it.....

Robert Taylor
17th May 2012, 17:57
http://www.nzsbk.com/2012/05/2013-new-zealand-road-race-championship.html

The 2013 dates are:
Round 1 Ruapuna 5th and 6th of January
Round 2 Levels, 12th and 13th of January
Round 3 Teretonga 19th and 20th January
Round 4 Hampton Downs 16th and 17th March
Round 5 Taupo 23rd and 24th March

Congrats to MNZ for having them out so early. It is honestly a huge help!

But they should have dropped one South Island round

Maido
17th May 2012, 19:01
But they should have dropped one South Island round
Yeah ruapuna is rubbish

crazy man
17th May 2012, 19:03
You'll be fine deano, mine only took 11months for the two bones to stop moving around. (was the longest collarbone case in ACC history)lm shore gixerracer was over 3years lol

gixerracer
17th May 2012, 19:48
Look very good, im pleased Taupo is in there. It was a great meeting

I agree

gixerracer
17th May 2012, 19:50
lm shore gixerracer was over 3years lol

1997 and its still broken I can put my fingers under the bone and lift the broken piece up and down haha. Its only a cosmetic bone and does naf all so dont even need it, brake them and leave them broken and then cant do it again

gixerracer
17th May 2012, 19:51
But they should have dropped one South Island round

No they should have 3 in both Island and have a decent series:bleh:

gixerracer
17th May 2012, 19:52
i suspect the logistics of running manfeild compared with the return(if any)mean no one wants to run it

same old same old,I used to have the same issues when I was in the Vic club in the 80's

Pretty sure the Tri series guy's are keen on running Manfeild round?

CHOPPA
17th May 2012, 20:29
1997 and its still broken I can put my fingers under the bone and lift the broken piece up and down haha. Its only a cosmetic bone and does naf all so dont even need it, brake them and leave them broken and then cant do it again

I swear mine is still broken! I have seen xrays and there is a big chunk of bone around it but I can move it and it flexes on the break! Wierd

budda
17th May 2012, 20:45
But they should have dropped one South Island round

Hard to get all that work done while simultaneouosly wringing your hands, is it ?

Kickaha
18th May 2012, 19:36
Congrats to MNZ for having them out so early. It is honestly a huge help!

Hell yes, Are the tracks letting people book further ahead?, it used to be impossible to get dates this far out.

Fast Eddie
18th May 2012, 20:40
But they should have dropped one South Island round

no way

10char

DerekP
18th May 2012, 22:42
I swear mine is still broken! I have seen xrays and there is a big chunk of bone around it but I can move it and it flexes on the break! Wierd


Broke mine 17th March; Got my medicial clearance this week, Yeha! Mine is now twice as thick at the break point.. and yet it still feels rubbery...

PSYCHO
19th May 2012, 15:15
I swear mine is still broken! I have seen xrays and there is a big chunk of bone around it but I can move it and it flexes on the break! Wierd



One of my 3 collarbone breaks was like that, and like yours xrays said it was good, but a ct scan proved otherwise....so under the knife again

PSYCHO
19th May 2012, 15:16
But they should have dropped one South Island round

why do you say that ?

Kickaha
19th May 2012, 15:25
But they should have dropped one South Island round

I can see the sense in doing that although I'd rather not see it happen, but it would drop a lot of time and cost for the series

Although I'm not sure whether that would mean more people doing it

Deano
19th May 2012, 15:57
I can see the sense in doing that although I'd rather not see it happen, but it would drop a lot of time and cost for the series

Although I'm not sure whether that would mean more people doing it

I'd be keen for 3 rounds in each Island !

Fast Eddie
19th May 2012, 21:00
yea rather 3 rounds on each than dropping around.. more racing not less people.

gixerracer
19th May 2012, 21:12
yea rather 3 rounds on each than dropping around.. more racing not less people.

Whats the point of dropin a round I just dont get that stupid idea people keep throwing out there

Kickaha
19th May 2012, 21:28
yea rather 3 rounds on each than dropping around.. more racing not less people.

Every time you add a round you make the series more expensive to do, chances are that means less people doing the full series

gixxerpoofter do you mean you dont understand dropping a round to have a four round series or do you mean having five rounds and being able to drop the worst round?

Robert Taylor
20th May 2012, 10:33
why do you say that ?

Cost and downtime. Given that the preceding Tri Series has added a lot of racing, extra weekends away and cost for the bike providers , parts providers and service providers to add to it ( rather than retrenching back a little ) doesnt make sense.
And in any event a lot of racers are there but only for the goodwill and grace of paying benefactors, never forget that. Those that have to fund it almost wholly themselves are already stretched to do so.
A lot of people cannot afford the time away now, or would at least still love to have a handful of days left of annual leave to have a ''regular'' holiday with families etc. Why further burden that very real issue?
Less can be more.

gixerracer
20th May 2012, 12:54
Every time you add a round you make the series more expensive to do, chances are that means less people doing the full series

gixxerpoofter do you mean you dont understand dropping a round to have a four round series or do you mean having five rounds and being able to drop the worst round?

Kickablahblah:innocent: yea dropping your worst roung from the series I just dont get it. Its a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and he whom has the most points at the end should be the winner because the earned the most points. As for a four round series or even less as some would like whats the point really?
They should combine the two Tri Series meetings that are one the proper race tracks and make them the 1st and 2nd round of the Nats most the riders are there anyhow

gixerracer
20th May 2012, 12:55
Cost and downtime. Given that the preceding Tri Series has added a lot of racing, extra weekends away and cost for the bike providers , parts providers and service providers to add to it ( rather than retrenching back a little ) doesnt make sense.
And in any event a lot of racers are there but only for the goodwill and grace of paying benefactors, never forget that. Those that have to fund it almost wholly themselves are already stretched to do so.
A lot of people cannot afford the time away now, or would at least still love to have a handful of days left of annual leave to have a ''regular'' holiday with families etc. Why further burden that very real issue?
Less can be more.

Bollocks if people dont wana do it then dont fucken do it. Its not just some event its a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

Kickaha
20th May 2012, 13:09
Its not just some event its a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
To a lot of people it is "just some event" they have no chance of getting anywhere at it and only support their local or island rounds, if all those people fuck off you probably wont have one at all

Robert Taylor
20th May 2012, 13:13
Bollocks if people dont wana do it then dont fucken do it. Its not just some event its a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

That may be so Craig, but you candidly told me on Friday that you would struggle to find the money to do everything this coming summer season. I believe that situation is not unique, especially as budgets are being trimmed even further. When I look ( for example ) at what Suzuki NZ put into racing against return it just doesnt stack up. If there was a plausible return then every other manufacturers distributors would be in there boots and all.
But yes it would make sense for the Tri Series to be blended into it all, but the Tri Series organisers could well have something contrary to say to that. And that begs the obvious question, why was the Tri series created in the first place? And why is there a struggle to get big numbers at Nat champs rounds? This argument has already been done to death but a major part of it is travel cost, accomodation, meals and non productive / non earning downtime from your employment or business.
But to add further rounds would be stretching the goodwill even further of all the volunteers who help to run the Nationals. It would be interesting to analyse how many support people there are per rider, factoring in myriad suppliers, flag marshals, lap scorers, your own helpers, St Johns, food providers etc etc. These factors shouldnt be taken as a given.
Plus another major cost, another weekends tyre bill.
Im not deliberately trying to be argumentative here, its just that there is alot more to it than ''we enjoy racing, lets do more of it''

Mental Trousers
20th May 2012, 13:44
Once in while out of all the mispelt blathering there's some jolly good stuff


Kickablahblah:innocent: yea dropping your worst roung from the series I just dont get it. Its a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and he whom has the most points at the end should be the winner because the earned the most points. As for a four round series or even less as some would like whats the point really?
They should combine the two Tri Series meetings that are one the proper race tracks and make them the 1st and 2nd round of the Nats most the riders are there anyhow

CHOPPA
20th May 2012, 18:36
Id like to see the Tri Series rounds be added in to the national points series. Maybe allow people to drop a round.

You would see some good racing at Wanganui then! Id drop that round and go to Teretonga

Kickaha
20th May 2012, 18:46
Id like to see the Tri Series rounds be added in to the national points series.
As well as racing those tracks again in March or instead of?

Maybe allow people to drop a round.
I think that makes it to hard for the clubs as you couldn't even plan what classes to run at your round, you might not even get enough people to run the round at all

slowpoke
20th May 2012, 22:01
Kickablahblah:innocent: yea dropping your worst roung from the series I just dont get it. Its a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and he whom has the most points at the end should be the winner because the earned the most points. As for a four round series or even less as some would like whats the point really?
They should combine the two Tri Series meetings that are one the proper race tracks and make them the 1st and 2nd round of the Nats most the riders are there anyhow

Yep, I don't see the point in dropping a round either. Why reward a mistake? Or the fact you haven't turned up when other people have? Doesn't make sense to me. I realise money is tight but we must already have one of, if not the, shortest National Championship series in the world.

I'm also likin' the idea of combining the Manfeild/HD Tri-Series events with the Nat's.

And do away with the 2 x 15 lap Superbike races on Sunday and instead have 3 x 10 lappers with one on Saturday. Give the spectators another reason to turn up on Saturday.