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jrandom
20th May 2012, 09:02
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/6953223/Mau-tells-anti-gays-to-chill-out

Television presenter Ali Mau wants homophobic Kiwis to wake up.

...

The Fair Go presenter came out in 2010 about her relationship with Karleen Edmonds.

Despite being forced to come out before she was ready, Mau said she was sure enough of herself to trust her feelings.

"It was a bit of a surprise, but it's not something I had a deep moral wrestle with. I just thought, 'I am really into this person.' It didn't matter what gender she was."

Riiiight.

Female sexuality is often fluid. Ms Mau was with a man before this partner and may well be with a man again for her next one. If I was a gay man I'd suspect her of taking something intrinsic to my identity, something personal and sacred, and using it as an assumed badge of coolness.

Is Ali M just stroking her ego by identifying herself with a hip social trend? Does her dilettantish dalliance with muff-diving and smug acceptance of the spotlight diminish the struggle for acceptance by genuinely homosexual people who've been persecuted by Western society for hundreds of years?

Is Alan Turing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing) rolling in his grave?

Or is this sort of shallow behaviour by a media personality just an inevitable cost of an open and accepting society, and by far the lesser of two evils?

Should Alison just shut up and show us her tits?

Discuss.

Taz
20th May 2012, 09:07
Who is she?

jrandom
20th May 2012, 09:08
Who is she?

Third-rate generic television presenter.

paturoa
20th May 2012, 09:11
Ms Mau was with a man before this partner and may well be with a man again for her next one.

So she is currently riding a Honda?

Woodman
20th May 2012, 09:11
Who is she?

She has nice tits, thats all you need to know.

Virago
20th May 2012, 09:15
Shit - for a moment there I thought I'd clicked on http://www.womansweekly.co.nz/forums .

short-circuit
20th May 2012, 09:19
She's a bit long in the tooth to get "cool points" for girl on girl

Plus this news is ancient (like her)...why would we care?

jrandom
20th May 2012, 09:20
Shit - for a moment there I thought I'd clicked on http://www.womansweekly.co.nz/forums .

You afford us a momentary and not entirely welcome peek into your bookmarks list there, sir.

jrandom
20th May 2012, 09:20
Plus this news is ancient (like her)...why would we care?

It's not ancient, it's on today's Stuff front page. She's popped up for some reason and is waving her arms about claiming some sort of moral high ground.

short-circuit
20th May 2012, 09:24
It's not ancient, it's on today's Stuff front page. She's popped up for some reason and is waving her arms about claiming some sort of moral high ground.

Slow news week - I thought we all knew she was gay back in like 2008 or something (when it started being cool)

jrandom
20th May 2012, 09:26
Slow news week - I thought we all knew she was gay back in like 2008 or something (when it started being cool)

Maybe it is a slow news week.

The country obviously needs a better gay media figurehead.

I don't watch telly - who do you think would be most suitable?

Maha
20th May 2012, 09:32
Slow news week - I thought we all knew she was gay back in like 2008 or something (when it started being cool)

It was 'or something' 2010...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/118286-Alison-Mau-a-lesbian?highlight=alison+mau

mashman
20th May 2012, 09:38
Should Alison just shut up and show us her tits?

She should discuss her plight in the styles of The Meaning of Life sex education class.

The only thing that gets me is that homosexuals need to have something in a bill that allows them to be "legally" married and therefore acceptable to society... from the point of view where anyone considering that being married is important needs to have their head read. If they want commitment, they should just have a "wedding" ceremony without the "legal" bit, there really is no difference other than the state recognising the union. Fine if she wants to highlight the plight of homosexualiy and it's social status. Other than that, meh, tits.

Woodman
20th May 2012, 09:42
She should discuss her plight in the styles of The Meaning of Life sex education class.

The only thing that gets me is that homosexuals need to have something in a bill that allows them to be "legally" married and therefore acceptable to society... from the point of view where anyone considering that being married is important needs to have their head read. If they want commitment, they should just have a "wedding" ceremony without the "legal" bit, there really is no difference other than the state recognising the union. Fine if she wants to highlight the plight of homosexualiy and it's social status. Other than that, meh, tits.

Yup, a lot of gay people just get on quietly with life whereas others feel the need to shove it in your face.

Goblin
20th May 2012, 09:45
Maybe it is a slow news week.

The country obviously needs a better gay media figurehead.

I don't watch telly - who do you think would be most suitable?

John Key. :shifty:

Katman
20th May 2012, 09:49
Yup, a lot of gay people just get on quietly with life whereas others feel the need to shove it in your face.

Strictly speaking, they probably shove it in each other's faces more.

Usarka
20th May 2012, 10:15
Strictly speaking, they probably shove it in each other's faces more.

Not lesbians, they shove their faces in each other.

Madness
20th May 2012, 10:22
I for one would definitely like to see Ali & Karleen's tits, preferably while posing in some smoking-hot lesbian action.

:corn:

Katman
20th May 2012, 10:25
Not lesbians, they shove their faces in each other.

It was funnier when I said it.

Usarka
20th May 2012, 10:26
I guess thats the trouble with the ignore function.

Katman
20th May 2012, 10:32
I guess thats the trouble with the ignore function.

Funny that you quoted me though.

Does your ignore function not function very well?

Boob Johnson
20th May 2012, 10:34
I guess thats the trouble with the ignore function.
lol, ouch!



Slow news week - I thought we all knew she was gay back in like 2008 or something (when it started being cool)
2008? Try at least 10 years prior!



there really is no difference other than the state recognising the union.
I guess that is their point, they want recognition at the highest level. Can appreciate where they are coming from (ewww errrr) but (my) jury is still out on this one.

Bikemad
20th May 2012, 10:39
Yup, a lot of gay people just get on quietly with life whereas others feel the need to shove it in your face.

yeah whats with that...........and i'm sorry but in my opinion being gay is not normal as Alison quoted in the article.........it's abnormal as far as i see.........not that i give a flying fuck.......as long as both chicks are hot

Nova.
20th May 2012, 10:42
Females being lesbian = acceptable
Males being gay = unacceptable

Red39
20th May 2012, 10:58
Living with that smug twatface Dallow for so long would turn anyone gay IMHO :)

Boob Johnson
20th May 2012, 11:03
HOT Females being lesbian = acceptable
Males being gay = unacceptable
FTFY (fixed that for you) :innocent:

HenryDorsetCase
20th May 2012, 11:07
all the boys are secretly thinking to themselves "Meh, I could turn them back, all I'd need is 1/4 of an hour and some low lights and mood music and that "special" move all the bitchez say they love"

:eyeroll:

I like Fair Go with her and Gordo. What she gets up to in the sack is her business. though if there were pics, I'd totally look at them

Woodman
20th May 2012, 11:26
Being gay is cool???

Can think of better and easier ways to be cool, but to play rear gunners just to be considered cool? naaaaaa.

mashman
20th May 2012, 11:31
Yup, a lot of gay people just get on quietly with life whereas others feel the need to shove it in your face.

and yet it's ok the straight folk to bar them from civil union by shoving their hetro version in the face of the homo?

mashman
20th May 2012, 11:34
I guess that is their point, they want recognition at the highest level. Can appreciate where they are coming from (ewww errrr) but (my) jury is still out on this one.

Aye... that they have to campaign for it speaks volumes, as does campaigning for recognition instead of just getting on with it. Damned either way I guess.

Boob Johnson
20th May 2012, 11:42
Aye... that they have to campaign for it speaks volumes, as does campaigning for recognition instead of just getting on with it. Damned either way I guess.
All minority groups that are discriminated against pursue the same thing & fair enough too. Not sure you thought this one through from their perspective. "Just getting on with it" is easy for anyone not closely associated with the plight to say.

mashman
20th May 2012, 11:44
All minority groups that are discriminated against pursue the same thing & fair enough too. Not sure you thought this one through from their perspective. "Just getting on with it" is easy for anyone not closely associated with the plight to say.

That was covered under the "that they have to campaign for it speaks volumes", as in it should be common place by now :love:

Boob Johnson
20th May 2012, 11:48
That was covered under the "that they have to campaign for it speaks volumes", as in it should be common place by now :love:
Roger that. Right you are, that it should be. I'm just not personally sold on how far to go with the law. The pendulum has a tendency to over shoot it's mark when trying to make a point.

mashman
20th May 2012, 12:17
Roger that. Right you are, that it should be. I'm just not personally sold on how far to go with the law. The pendulum has a tendency to over shoot it's mark when trying to make a point.

Surely not, over shoot you say :shifty:... my point is, there shouldn't need to be a law that says that people who are gay are allowed to have the title of Mr and Mr or Mrs and Mrs.

AllanB
20th May 2012, 12:37
Usual media shit with the minority preaching to the majority. Which always makes me laugh when minority groups are telling the majority that the majority have it all wrong......

I have no interest in her bleating - she spent years as a media presenter poking poorly researched shit as fact. Suck it up. Or maybe lick it up would be more apt ...

MisterD
20th May 2012, 12:37
my point is, there shouldn't need to be a law that says that people who are gay are allowed to have the title of Mr and Mr or Mrs and Mrs.

Exactly, it's no business of the State's at all, and if we're saying the State should recognise gays as married, what business is it of the state to limit the number of people in a marriage to just the two? Let's ditch the prohibition on polygamy as well.

But why are teh gays so all-fired determined to change the meaning of the word "married" all of a sudden? It's easy, innit, the difference between a CU and a "marriage" is that CU couples can't adopt - this is a tactial campaign for gay adoption, because they don't think they can win that argument directly.

mashman
20th May 2012, 12:46
Let's ditch the prohibition on polygamy as well.

absolutely.



But why are teh gays so all-fired determined to change the meaning of the word "married" all of a sudden? It's easy, innit, the difference between a CU and a "marriage" is that CU couples can't adopt - this is a tactial campaign for gay adoption, because they don't think they can win that argument directly.

Bang on, as the law stands they can't adopt... what marriage has to do with children's welfare I'll never know.

Winston001
20th May 2012, 13:23
... what marriage has to do with children's welfare I'll never know.

The bond of marriage goes back into pre-history in virtually every society. The reason is tribes recognised the benefit of the family unit - mother father and child. By giving formal status to that unit, the tribe/group provided social boundaries which protected it. The children benefited by knowing who their parents were, and the fathers could be reasonably confident they were killing mastodons to feed their own progeny.

Kickaha
20th May 2012, 13:38
Should Alison just shut up and show us her tits?

Yes.......Can you please arrange that for us

rainman
20th May 2012, 14:13
The bond of marriage goes back into pre-history in virtually every society. The reason is tribes recognised the benefit of the family unit - mother father and child. By giving formal status to that unit, the tribe/group provided social boundaries which protected it. The children benefited by knowing who their parents were, and the fathers could be reasonably confident they were killing mastodons to feed their own progeny.

Bit primitive, though, innit? Why feed only your "own" progeny?

HenryDorsetCase
20th May 2012, 14:53
The bond of marriage goes back into pre-history in virtually every society. The reason is tribes recognised the benefit of the family unit - mother father and child. By giving formal status to that unit, the tribe/group provided social boundaries which protected it. The children benefited by knowing who their parents were, and the fathers could be reasonably confident they were killing mastodons to feed their own progeny.

Really?

what about that whole "it takes a village to raise a child" malarkey?

Crasherfromwayback
20th May 2012, 14:59
I'm a raving fucking lesbian. Believe me...it's fucking cool as shit.

mashman
20th May 2012, 15:04
The bond of marriage goes back into pre-history in virtually every society. The reason is tribes recognised the benefit of the family unit - mother father and child. By giving formal status to that unit, the tribe/group provided social boundaries which protected it. The children benefited by knowing who their parents were, and the fathers could be reasonably confident they were killing mastodons to feed their own progeny.

and then it was in the eyes of god, and then it was for social convention, and then it was to signify commitment, and then it was a law etc.... what was it before the tribes decided what it should be? and the confidence that they were killing to feed their own is absolutely nuts as that's absolutely no guarantee at all really is it. Today marriage means absolutely nothing, to some, but it is used to stop people from doing things that they're not allowed to do because social convention says so. It's ok to have 3 or 4 girlfriends even if they know about each other, but marry more than 1 woman and you face jail. Madness gone mad.

MisterD
20th May 2012, 15:16
Really?

what about that whole "it takes a village to raise a child" malarkey?

Successful families being the building blocks of society, villages being a group of such families...doesn't seem contradictory to me.

Winston001
20th May 2012, 15:33
Bit primitive, though, innit? Why feed only your "own" progeny?

Biological imperatives. If you don't protect your gene pool it evaporates. This operates across all animals.

Some species such as humans cooperate and form communities on the basis of strength in numbers, so contributing to the wider group benefits the individual.

HenryDorsetCase
20th May 2012, 16:18
and then it was in the eyes of god, and then it was for social convention, and then it was to signify commitment, and then it was a law etc.... what was it before the tribes decided what it should be? and the confidence that they were killing to feed their own is absolutely nuts as that's absolutely no guarantee at all really is it. Today marriage means absolutely nothing, to some, but it is used to stop people from doing things that they're not allowed to do because social convention says so. It's ok to have 3 or 4 girlfriends even if they know about each other, but marry more than 1 woman and you face jail. Madness gone mad.

fine in theory, but some of us have problems with one wimminz. I couldnt think of anything worse thant two or more getting on my case at a time.

I suppose I could tell them to go and amuse themselves by tilling my fields or miliking my cows, or raising my children. We are talking about a patriarchy, yes?

Oakie
20th May 2012, 17:11
What guys don't get and it took me the experience of two female colleagues going 'the other way' (separately ... a couple of years apart) is that they do it for emotional reasons, not sexual. They don't decide 'I wonder what vagina tastes like' and go find a woman. They come across someone who is a soul-mate and then have to adapt to the physical side. I now know three women work colleagues who have done this. On all occasions they were in existing straight relationships which were not warm or nurturing.

Of course it could just be that after working with me, no other man meets the grade ... or I've put them right off men.

Clockwork
21st May 2012, 13:10
Biological imperatives. If you don't protect your gene pool it evaporates. This operates across all animals.

Some species such as humans cooperate and form communities on the basis of strength in numbers, so contributing to the wider group benefits the individual.

Also..... back in the day when feeding your family frequently meant risking your life, I guess it would be pretty important to know that it was your family you were feeding.

Edbear
21st May 2012, 13:31
Lots of generalisations in this thread, and "open-minded" posts.

Not too many seem to be posting about how they personally feel with their own family, though. I've been married near 35years, (Oct.), and have three grown up children and two grandchildren. We are a very close nit family and woe betide anyone who would seek to butt in and suggest we should be more "open" in our relationships.

People tend by nature to be very protective of their families and their family status in the community.

The reason for the way society is today is generally due to peple wanting to be promiscuous which leads to marriage and relationships breaking up, short term relationships which all too often bring children into the world where they have no stability and people becoming blase about moving from one relationship to another either without regard to the long term benefits of a stable marriage or in a forlorn hope of finding that perfect man or woman when their life will be happy ever after.

slofox
21st May 2012, 13:47
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with muff-munching...:whistle:

MisterD
21st May 2012, 13:59
The reason for the way society is today is generally due to peple wanting to be promiscuous

You're being waay too narrow. The reasons for the way society is today are people expecting to get stuff without effort, and being unwilling to accept responsibility for their actions.

Edbear
21st May 2012, 14:10
You're being waay too narrow. The reasons for the way society is today are people expecting to get stuff without effort, and being unwilling to accept responsibility for their actions.

That too! :yes:

I have found the perfect woman, it's only taken 30+ years of understanding, growing, learning and sincere effort on both our parts, but we actually love and like each other and are happy to spend any amount of time together.

Our kids are embarrassed at times and amused at other times to see how we treat each other. We're like newlyweds, still. :shutup:

Brian d marge
21st May 2012, 14:22
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with muff-munching...:whistle:

me neither ,infact I have qute a few videos in my collection!

Stephen

Brian d marge
21st May 2012, 14:24
What guys don't get and it took me the experience of two female colleagues going 'the other way' (separately ... a couple of years apart) is that they do it for emotional reasons, not sexual. They don't decide 'I wonder what vagina tastes like' and go find a woman. They come across someone who is a soul-mate and then have to adapt to the physical side. I now know three women work colleagues who have done this. On all occasions they were in existing straight relationships which were not warm or nurturing.

Of course it could just be that after working with me, no other man meets the grade ... or I've put them right off men.

Women are strange sometimes

Stephen

slowpoke
21st May 2012, 15:50
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/6953223/Mau-tells-anti-gays-to-chill-out

Television presenter Ali Mau wants homophobic Kiwis to wake up.

...

The Fair Go presenter came out in 2010 about her relationship with Karleen Edmonds.

Despite being forced to come out before she was ready, Mau said she was sure enough of herself to trust her feelings.

"It was a bit of a surprise, but it's not something I had a deep moral wrestle with. I just thought, 'I am really into this person.' It didn't matter what gender she was."

Riiiight.

Female sexuality is often fluid. Ms Mau was with a man before this partner and may well be with a man again for her next one. If I was a gay man I'd suspect her of taking something intrinsic to my identity, something personal and sacred, and using it as an assumed badge of coolness.

What a load of shite. For a start she was forced to come out about the relationaship, how does that make her an "attention whore"? And what, just because someone else is in a same sex relationship, she's not allowed to be? You don't own a circumstance....it just is.

Is Ali M just stroking her ego by identifying herself with a hip social trend? Does her dilettantish dalliance with muff-diving and smug acceptance of the spotlight diminish the struggle for acceptance by genuinely homosexual people who've been persecuted by Western society for hundreds of years?

"Smug acceptance of the spotlight"? As above, it was forced on her, you idjit. And because she doesn't go totally radio rental she's "smug"? She's a smart middle aged woman with some good life skills who has handled the whole situation a helluva lot better than 99% of us, and you want to read some crap attitide into it? Fook off mon.

Is Alan Turing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing) rolling in his grave?

Or is this sort of shallow behaviour by a media personality just an inevitable cost of an open and accepting society, and by far the lesser of two evils?

Why is it shallow? She works in the media, it's an occupational hazard she's gonna get asked stuff, it's gonna be reported, end of story.

Should Alison just shut up and show us her tits?

Discuss.

Good on her for the way she's conducted herself, she's got a lot more class than most folks on here.

rainman
21st May 2012, 18:02
The reason for the way society is today is generally due to peple wanting to be promiscuous which leads to marriage and relationships breaking up, short term relationships which all too often bring children into the world where they have no stability and people becoming blase about moving from one relationship to another either without regard to the long term benefits of a stable marriage or in a forlorn hope of finding that perfect man or woman when their life will be happy ever after.

I've had a vasectomy. I don't hold religious views that say God will punish me for using my naughty bits. I don't believe in the perfection of man or woman. Why should I not root like a Bonobo?

Apologies, realise this is waaay of topic from the OP about Ali and partner, but Ed's assumptions were calling out to be challenged...

Kickaha
21st May 2012, 18:07
Women are strange sometimes

Only sometimes?

avgas
21st May 2012, 19:23
Tits or fuck off

Edbear
21st May 2012, 20:53
I've had a vasectomy. I don't hold religious views that say God will punish me for using my naughty bits. I don't believe in the perfection of man or woman. Why should I not root like a Bonobo?

Apologies, realise this is waaay of topic from the OP about Ali and partner, but Ed's assumptions were calling out to be challenged...

You blithely avoid addressing the other downsides and even if for you, there is no likelihood of children you picked only a portion that suited you.

These are not my "assumptions" either, these are well recorded facts by all societies world wide. Why is it that when someone posts something that is well known and documented and nothing to do with religion or politics, people seem to feel a need to attack the poster personally? :weird:

HenryDorsetCase
21st May 2012, 20:59
You blithely avoid addressing the other downsides and even if for you, there is no likelihood of children you picked only a portion that suited you.

These are not my "assumptions" either, these are well recorded facts by all societies world wide. Why is it that when someone posts something that is well known and documented and nothing to do with religion or politics, people seem to feel a need to attack the poster personally? :weird:

source please.

Edbear
21st May 2012, 21:03
source please.

Google is your friend... :yes:

Also ask all relevant Govt. departments.

Katman
21st May 2012, 21:30
Why is it that when someone posts something that is well known and documented and nothing to do with religion or politics, people seem to feel a need to attack the poster personally? :weird:

Maybe it's 'cos they don't like you.

Edbear
21st May 2012, 21:37
Maybe it's 'cos they don't like you.

Gidday mate! How's the weather down your way?

bluninja
22nd May 2012, 22:24
I heard a bit of an interview on the radio ..... seemed like she was just justifying herself with BS, maybe PR to get everyhting out of the way, her seen to be a victim of society's close mindedness etc.

What is it with people? Can't you have a committed long term relationship....without sex? Most people have many lifelong loving supportive relationships with nothing more than a hug, kiss on the cheek, or a firm handshake (think family, best friends).

As for the homosexual "I was born this way" whine, FFS I hear some sad bastards are sexually aroused by their pet labrador....maybe we should all be open minded and accept that sex is normal if you love someone in whatever form your soulmate arrives. At least labradors only last about 12 years, so the commitment isn't too bad, and if it all breaks down a juicy bone should cover the divorce.

rainman
22nd May 2012, 22:55
Google is your friend... :yes:

Also ask all relevant Govt. departments.

Ed, there are some key rules you don't seem to be getting, here:
1. If you claim an assertion, particularly if you claim it is absolute documented fact, then the onus is on you to provide sources when challenged, so that others can debate them and judge their quality.
2. If, when so challenged, you say "find them yourself", "Google is your friend", etc., then you forfeit the point of debate, plus accumulate five "tosser" demerit points
3. After a certain number of aforementioned "tosser" demerits (threshold varies with the debatee), people stop engaging with you, cos yer a tosser.

This is indisputable fact, and well-documented, as even a cursory Googling will show... :laugh:

Anyway, to your response:


You blithely avoid addressing the other downsides and even if for you, there is no likelihood of children you picked only a portion that suited you.

Um, no I didn't - your points were:
- leads to marriage and relationships breaking up
- short term relationships
- bring children into the world
- people becoming blase about moving from one relationship to another either
- without regard to the long term benefits of a stable marriage or
- in a forlorn hope of finding that perfect man or woman

Although I did not explicitly state that promiscuity on either party's part would not be sufficient cause to break up my very long-term and stable relationship, to be fair (it wouldn't be), I did deal with kids and the myth of perfection. The rest is all just your assumptions about normality.

Crasherfromwayback
22nd May 2012, 23:01
, FFS I hear some sad bastards are sexually aroused by their pet labrador....maybe we should all be open minded and accept that sex is normal if you love someone in whatever form your soulmate arrives. At least labradors only last about 12 years, so the commitment isn't too bad, and if it all breaks down a juicy bone should cover the divorce.

Knock yourself out.

bluninja
22nd May 2012, 23:23
Knock yourself out.

Oh, you've fallen out with your doggie soulmate then:laugh:

Winston001
22nd May 2012, 23:30
I really don't care if Allison Mau has chosen another woman as her partner. Its weird but harmless too. If she and her friend are happy - good.

I thought this alternative sexuality thing was publicly accepted 10-15 years ago. If some folk want to make peculiar personal choices, what the heck. It doesn't mean they aren't good people, capable of kindness and contributing to our community.

Leave the gal alone.

avgas
23rd May 2012, 00:05
TITS. OR. FUCK. OFF.

As for the whole relationships make babies, the world is nigh, wambamthankyou mam debate going on. Haven't you heard - your suppose to rub the babies off into the carpet while working in someone elses home.

madbikeboy
23rd May 2012, 01:25
- people becoming blase about moving from one relationship to another either


Blase about it? Hell no, the best thing about being single is that you get to have loads of test rides on loads of different chicks. I'm very for it. LOL! As for the same sex thing - I'm very open to having sex with two women at the same time.

Oakie
23rd May 2012, 07:49
At least labradors only last about 12 years, so the commitment isn't too bad, and if it all breaks down a juicy bone should cover the divorce.

Old Mother Hubbard
Went to the cupbpard
to get her poor doggie a bone
But when she bent over
old Rover took over
and gave her a bone of his own!

Edbear
23rd May 2012, 08:20
Ed, there are some key rules you don't seem to be getting, here:
1. If you claim an assertion, particularly if you claim it is absolute documented fact, then the onus is on you to provide sources when challenged, so that others can debate them and judge their quality.
2. If, when so challenged, you say "find them yourself", "Google is your friend", etc., then you forfeit the point of debate, plus accumulate five "tosser" demerit points
3. After a certain number of aforementioned "tosser" demerits (threshold varies with the debatee), people stop engaging with you, cos yer a tosser.

This is indisputable fact, and well-documented, as even a cursory Googling will show... :laugh:

Anyway, to your response:



Um, no I didn't - your points were:
- leads to marriage and relationships breaking up
- short term relationships
- bring children into the world
- people becoming blase about moving from one relationship to another either
- without regard to the long term benefits of a stable marriage or
- in a forlorn hope of finding that perfect man or woman

Although I did not explicitly state that promiscuity on either party's part would not be sufficient cause to break up my very long-term and stable relationship, to be fair (it wouldn't be), I did deal with kids and the myth of perfection. The rest is all just your assumptions about normality.

Honestly, mate, if you really can't see for yourself the truth of this you are a sad person, living in dreamland. Go and see if you can start a pointless argument with someone who can be bothered.

Tigadee
23rd May 2012, 08:48
At least labradors only last about 12 years, so the commitment isn't too bad, and if it all breaks down a juicy bone should cover the divorce.

:lol: :clap: Funny!


Leave the gal alone.

The question should be, why can't she leave it [the issue] alone? Hence the OP...

oneofsix
23rd May 2012, 09:02
The question should be, why can't she leave it [the issue] alone? Hence the OP...

Because she is an attention seeking whore.

Does that complete the circle? :laugh:

I don't think the Topp Twins would even consider this subject worthy of social activism anymore and they were active in getting same sex relationships considered acceptable and legal.

Others must have noticed how it is now fashionable for females in the entertainment industry to 'come out' as bi-sexual. It gets them a headline and at the same time broadens their scope of work.

Tigadee
23rd May 2012, 09:07
Yeah, I guess no one wants to picture the Topp Twins together as compared to Mau and her dancer partner...

oneofsix
23rd May 2012, 09:27
Not even with their individual partners, is it still termed granny sex when they can't, naturally, be grandparents with that type of sex?

SimJen
23rd May 2012, 09:30
I really don't care if Allison Mau has chosen another woman as her partner. Its weird but harmless too. If she and her friend are happy - good.
I thought this alternative sexuality thing was publicly accepted 10-15 years ago. If some folk want to make peculiar personal choices, what the heck. It doesn't mean they aren't good people, capable of kindness and contributing to our community.
Leave the gal alone.

Exactly as he said ^
Some people love fat chicks, some people love blondes, some like chicks with dicks! who really cares. It might not be your cup of tea but if they are happy its really noone else's business......the problem is always an outsiders problem!
Seriously would you believe some people even like HONDAS!!! :eek:

avgas
23rd May 2012, 09:50
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080828182160/uncyclopedia/images/1/1f/Tits_or_gtfo1.jpg

slowpoke
23rd May 2012, 09:59
Funny thing is, all the people disrespecting and abusing someone they've never met are proving her point.

Some folks hate the internet, where the masks fall away and people are free to speak their small little minds....but sometimes it's quite revelatory, the view is actually clearer of exactly who makes up our society. Ali Mau is hurting absolutely no-one, whereas many of the anonymous enemies on here would happily hurt her.....that speaks volumes about those people and about our society.

Crasherfromwayback
23rd May 2012, 10:07
Funny thing is, all the people disrespecting and abusing someone they've never met are proving her point.

Some folks hate the internet, where the masks fall away and people are free to speak their small little minds....but sometimes it's quite revelatory, the view is actually clearer of exactly who makes up our society. Ali Mau is hurting absolutely no-one, whereas many of the anonymous enemies on here would happily hurt her.....that speaks volumes about those people and about our society.

Too true mate!

MisterD
23rd May 2012, 10:12
Ali Mau is hurting absolutely no-one, whereas many of the anonymous enemies on here would happily hurt her.....that speaks volumes about those people and about our society.

I disagree, the reaction to Ms Mau's grandstanding is indistinguishable from the scorn and abuse Lucy Lawless copped for her Greenpeace stunt. People are just sick of being lectured by d-grade celebrities who think their opinions are more valid because they've been on TV, it's not about who she decided to share her bed with.

For some reason, I'm reminded of Michael Stipe's "coming out" and his attempt to hide his utter deflation when everyone reacted with a "yes, Mike, we'd worked that out already".

mashman
23rd May 2012, 10:43
I disagree, the reaction to Ms Mau's grandstanding is indistinguishable from the scorn and abuse Lucy Lawless copped for her Greenpeace stunt. People are just sick of being lectured by d-grade celebrities who think their opinions are more valid because they've been on TV, it's not about who she decided to share her bed with.

Lectured? or having a social issue that some people take seriously highlighted by a famous person?

Tigadee
23rd May 2012, 12:07
...highlighted by a famous person?

Marginally famous person... Hardly even a blip on most people's radar, really.

bluninja
23rd May 2012, 12:28
Old Mother Hubbard
Went to the cupbpard
to get her poor doggie a bone
But when she bent over
old Rover took over
and gave her a bone of his own!

LOL

Old Mother Hubbard went to the cupboard,
to get the postman a letter.
But when she got there the cupboard was bare,
So they had sex without, it was better.

madbikeboy
23rd May 2012, 20:48
s, some like chicks with dicks! who really cares.

Seriously would you believe some people even like HONDAS!!! :eek:

Umm, does it seriously count as a chick if it's got a dick?

98tls
23rd May 2012, 20:58
Umm, does it seriously count as a chick if it's got a dick?

Only in NZ would that question be asked.:weird:I would say Mau at least knows what she wants and sets about it,many it would seem are still floundering with the very basics of life.:laugh:Hey if it feels good do it.

rainman
23rd May 2012, 21:56
Honestly, mate, if you really can't see for yourself the truth of this you are a sad person, living in dreamland.

Dunno Ed, I've heard "To stop learning is to die. To say you are certain of your views and you need no further study is not the same as studying to establish truth when those views are called into question."

Maybe time for a bit of study. Always good to have an open mind, eh?

Anyway, this is getting way off topic regarding Ms Mau and partner (more strength to 'em, I say), so perhaps we should desist or move it elsewhere.

mashman
23rd May 2012, 22:10
Marginally famous person... Hardly even a blip on most people's radar, really.

meh... famous enough that most Kiwi will know who she is. Odd that in such a small country no one has a piccy of her tatties :shifty:

oneofsix
23rd May 2012, 22:12
meh... famous enough that most Kiwi will know who she is. Odd that in such a small country no one has a piccy of her tatties :shifty:

Have to admit I had forgotten her until she started advertising herself as a queer.

mashman
23rd May 2012, 22:14
Have to admit I had forgotten her until she started advertising herself as a queer.

If you've got nothing useful to say and no piccies of said tatties, you know where the door is

oneofsix
23rd May 2012, 22:20
If you've got nothing useful to say and no piccies of said tatties, you know where the door is

but it is prove that she is just an attention seeking whore to me. As for tatties you will never get your hands, lips or anything else on there's plenty on the web but now for some images of tatties

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQaAqX1c95_N8S7cJlkhE4i3xo3JL96a l1SA5rcCwtuTIUOkQNf

If you really wanted titties they are on the web too.

mashman
23rd May 2012, 22:26
but it is prove that she is just an attention seeking whore to me. As for tatties you will never get your hands, lips or anything else on there's plenty on the web but now for some images of tatties

If you really wanted titties they are on the web too.

she's the only reason I watch Fair Go... just in case the studio get cold.

rachprice
23rd May 2012, 22:27
I wonder if this thread would have even been started if she wasn't good looking

mashman
23rd May 2012, 22:35
I wonder if this thread would have even been started if she wasn't good looking

What is it with women getting hooked up on other womens look... there's so much more to look at and inside I bet she's a warm woman :rolleyes:

Tigadee
23rd May 2012, 22:43
Odd that in such a small country no one has a piccy of her tatties :shifty:

You want to see a photo of her tattoos? :weird: You're a strange one!

Winston001
24th May 2012, 12:33
Dunno Ed, I've heard "To stop learning is to die. To say you are certain of your views and you need no further study is not the same as studying to establish truth when those views are called into question."

Maybe time for a bit of study. Always good to have an open mind, eh?


Each of us is the sum of his experiences and Ed's weltanschauung is that of a mature man who, judging from regular posting here, does think about stuff.



The life which is unexamined is not worth living; Socrates

rainman
24th May 2012, 17:45
Each of us is the sum of his experiences and Ed's weltanschauung is that of a mature man who, judging from regular posting here, does think about stuff

Sure. The trick is he only thinks about comfortable things that agree with his prejudices.

Katman
24th May 2012, 19:11
Each of us is the sum of his experiences and Ed's weltanschauung is that of a mature man who, judging from regular posting here, does think about stuff.


Ed doesn't think - he's programmed.

Fatt Max
24th May 2012, 19:30
Well, if you believe the news today this whole debacle is Christmas come early to a well known cleaning device....

264019

Winston001
24th May 2012, 20:17
That looks tres amusing Max but these poor old eyes can't read it! Got a link with a larger .jpg?

rachprice
24th May 2012, 21:36
I wonder if this thread would have even been started if she wasn't good looking


What is it with women getting hooked up on other womens look... there's so much more to look at and inside I bet she's a warm woman :rolleyes:

Ahhhh I didn't mean it like that, I'm all for it! I think she should be able to marry and no doubt about there is still prejudice about it. And why shouldn't she speak out? Both scenarios are legit - either she was a lezzo all along or like has been previously mentioned she is genuinely just in love with the person regardless of gender. Which is how many people feel!!

I just meant I doubt jrandom would have started this if she was unattractive

mashman
24th May 2012, 21:50
Ahhhh I didn't mean it like that, I'm all for it! I think she should be able to marry and no doubt about there is still prejudice about it. And why shouldn't she speak out? Both scenarios are legit - either she was a lezzo all along or like has been previously mentioned she is genuinely just in love with the person regardless of gender. Which is how many people feel!!

I just meant I doubt jrandom would have started this if she was unattractive

Agreed 100%... shame those many are still in the closet in regards to acceptance :)

Sure it was :shifty:

Edbear
24th May 2012, 21:56
Ed doesn't think - he's programmed.

Awesome program, too! Independent thought, self- learning, eats up research on every subject, relates with all academic and social classes...

Andy67
24th May 2012, 23:16
I've met Ali socially a few times and some of her family. She is a dead set fox and a lovely person. Full stop.

Berries
24th May 2012, 23:40
I'd tap it.

She's the only reason I watch Target.

madbikeboy
25th May 2012, 23:48
I wonder if this thread would have even been started if she wasn't good looking

What's the point of talking to, or about, ugly chicks?

mashman
26th May 2012, 09:51
What's the point of talking to, or about, ugly chicks?

They accept that you are looking at their tits for a valid reason

rachprice
26th May 2012, 10:09
What's the point of talking to, or about, ugly chicks?

Which gives weight to my argument. I don't think she would be getting the response 'is she just an attention whore' if she was unattractive

If she wants to stand up about something she feels strongly about then that's great, it's not less of a valid opinion because she was with a man, has a career in the spotlight or is attractive.
I think a woman's attractiveness definitely has an effect on the way they are perceived and unfortunately some have to pick holes in very attractive strong women because they need to have a weakness

Anyway I could go on but have a headache and an sounding like a raving feminist

Pussy
26th May 2012, 10:11
Anyway I could go on but have a headache and an sounding like a raving feminist

Show us your tits Rach!! :D

Boob Johnson
26th May 2012, 13:33
Which gives weight to my argument. I don't think she would be getting the response 'is she just an attention whore' if she was unattractive
That may apply sometimes but it sure isn't "the norm". Many unattractive women have been, rightly or wrongly labeled attention whores in the past. Just look at "The Ham Beast" AKA Liz Shaw for instance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOIRMe17imo

Crasherfromwayback
26th May 2012, 13:37
. Just look at "The Ham Beast" AKA Liz Shaw for instance.


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Thought that'd be Mama Cass.

Boob Johnson
26th May 2012, 13:39
Thought that'd be Mama Cass.
lol ouch!!!

rachprice
26th May 2012, 13:59
That may apply sometimes but it sure isn't "the norm". Many unattractive women have been, rightly or wrongly labeled attention whores in the past. Just look at "The Ham Beast" AKA Liz Shaw for instance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOIRMe17imo

Mmmm I hear ya, but I am talking same situation. I think if the situation was exactly the same but she wasn't as attractive I don't think there would be a thread to start with or some of the opinions on it

Regardless of Liz Shaws looks she was always gonna be called an attention whore.

Boob Johnson
26th May 2012, 14:03
Mmmm I hear ya, but I am talking same situation. I think if the situation was exactly the same but she wasn't as attractive I don't think there would be a thread to start with or some of the opinions on it

Regardless of Liz Shaws looks she was always gonna be called an attention whore.
That's kinda my point, regardless of her looks she is labeled so. Hard to say for sure for the "exact" situation.

Edbear
26th May 2012, 14:56
Which gives weight to my argument. I don't think she would be getting the response 'is she just an attention whore' if she was unattractive

If she wants to stand up about something she feels strongly about then that's great, it's not less of a valid opinion because she was with a man, has a career in the spotlight or is attractive.
I think a woman's attractiveness definitely has an effect on the way they are perceived and unfortunately some have to pick holes in very attractive strong women because they need to have a weakness

Anyway I could go on but have a headache and an sounding like a raving feminist

Hmmmm... So the reason I don't get the attention is because I am not attractive enough... :(

husaberg
26th May 2012, 15:52
Hmmmm... So the reason I don't get the attention is because I am not attractive enough... :(


Nah it will be cause your not on TV as well.

Remember the lady she has proposed to is a dance instructor.

From what i understand Alison came out a few Years ago.
I am a bit conflicted really on one hand i say
Good on her i hope she is happy.
On the other hand I don't see why it needs to be News though.I can't say i give a hoot whether relationship status is.
Or the all Blacks the warriors, the NZ netball team (unless its Temapara George/Clark mmm...)
http://static.stuff.co.nz/1307622488/103/5125103.jpg
or any of the publicity hounds that fill our magazines and papers. I don't understand the interest in Sally Ridge or Charole Dawson etc.

rachprice
26th May 2012, 16:07
That's kinda my point, regardless of her looks she is labeled so. Hard to say for sure for the "exact" situation.

True, guess there were many occasions that led to people calling her that, so that conclusion was based on more than one situation, and dare I say it more accurate.

I still think Alison's looks play a part in people's opinions in this situation

Boob Johnson
26th May 2012, 16:11
True, guess there were many occasions that led to people calling her that, so that conclusion was based on more than one situation, and dare I say it more accurate.

I still think Alison's looks play a part in people's opinions in this situation
The claws always come out for pretty girls from other women

rachprice
26th May 2012, 16:33
The claws always come out for pretty girls from other women

You mean I'm getting my claws out?

I'm on Allison's side, I think she is being unfairly picked on, could you not get that from what I said?

mashman
26th May 2012, 16:37
The claws always come out for pretty girls from other women

You noticed that too.

Crasherfromwayback
26th May 2012, 16:50
The claws always come out for pretty girls from other women


You noticed that too.

What's your excuse then?

mashman
26th May 2012, 16:54
What's your excuse then?

I haven't trimmed my nails in a while? (cheap troll too)

madbikeboy
26th May 2012, 17:34
I still think Alison's looks play a part in people's opinions in this situation

There is, at least in my view, a profile of women in the "spotlight" who are narcissistic attention seekers by nature - perhaps Nikki Watson, Ali Mau, Sally Ridge / little girl Ridge are good illustrations of this category; and they stand up for stupid causes like being a lesbian or whatever, simply because it gives them attention. In the Ridge's case, they stand up for the cause of being stupid. Point is, the somatic narcissism is the root cause for their need to be in the spotlight and get that attention.

Flipping this for a second - who can you point to and say, "holy shit, she's a wonderful role model"? I can think of Sarah Ulmer, and then I run out of ideas... So, in the vacuum, instead of quality role models and people to respect, this is what we get instead.

Actually, thinking about this, in the vacuum of great male role models and leadership, we get people like John Key running the country...

Now, unless someone starts posting pictures of hot lesbians fisting or whatever, I think this thread is getting boring... [/I]

Boob Johnson
26th May 2012, 17:37
You mean I'm getting my claws out?

I'm on Allison's side, I think she is being unfairly picked on, could you not get that from what I said?
Na not you, in general.

husaberg
26th May 2012, 17:46
There is, at least in my view, a profile of women in the "spotlight" who are narcissistic attention seekers by nature - perhaps Nikki Watson, Ali Mau, Sally Ridge / little girl Ridge are good illustrations of this category; and they stand up for stupid causes like being a lesbian or whatever, simply because it gives them attention. In the Ridge's case, they stand up for the cause of being stupid. Point is, the somatic narcissism is the root cause for their need to be in the spotlight and get that attention.

Flipping this for a second - who can you point to and say, "holy shit, she's a wonderful role model"? I can think of Sarah Ulmer, and then I run out of ideas... So, in the vacuum, instead of quality role models and people to respect, this is what we get instead.

Actually, thinking about this, in the vacuum of great male role models and leadership, we get people like John Key running the country...

Now, unless someone starts posting pictures of hot lesbians fisting or whatever, I think this thread is getting boring... [/I]

Not lesbian But hot girl on girl (sorry)

Er.... sorry Temepara (You are lovely but have poor choice in blokes) but it seems you are so pretty and hot that even the girls can't keep off you, even the straight ones.
http://static.stuff.co.nz/1283683627/226/4098226.jpghttp://www.zimbio.com/photos/Maria+Tutaia/Temepara+Georgehttp://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/2/5/25rwm9jj6wa4mwj2.jpghttp://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/gallery_images/photos/000/474/808/GYI0061426465_crop_450x500.jpg?1283068016http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/gallery_images/photos/000/547/197/GYI0062045527_crop_450x500.jpg?1287052964http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/261910_10150369512749408_181941469407_10386249_347 8038_n.jpghttp://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/galleries/192/192384/crop_450x500_GYI0058611786.jpghttp://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/sport2010/netball/silver-ferns/george_tutaia_hug_2.jpghttp://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/galleries/134/134092/crop_450x500_GYI0058194971.jpghttp://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Maria+Tutaia+Temepara+George+19th+Commonwealth+yuL 5X6IPFGqlhttp://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/gallery_images/photos/000/461/786/GYI0061355260_crop_450x500.jpg?1282380697http://file2.stuff.co.nz/1287050865/417/4235417.jpg





http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/gallery_images/photos/000/461/866/GYI0061355539_crop_450x500.jpg?1282388000http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/gallery_images/photos/000/461/914/GYI0061355594_crop_450x500.jpg?1282391000http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/03/25/netball4_gallery__470x368.jpg

Winston001
26th May 2012, 21:42
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/6953223/Mau-tells-anti-gays-to-chill-out

Television presenter Ali Mau wants homophobic Kiwis to wake up.

...

Is Ali M just stroking her ego by identifying herself with a hip social trend?

Is Alan Turing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing) rolling in his grave?



Poor brilliant Alan committed suicide which says much about the attitudes of society at that time. Its odd though - the Brits accepted homosexuality with a nod and a wink for generations so we have to wonder if Alan suffered from his own demons. Oscar Wild died early, shortly after being released from prison.

As for Ali Mau - all the newspaper article is doing is reporting her support of Rainbow Youth. She's not attention-seeking or phoning up the Harold to cheerlead the (ahem) fishwife menage.

She has made a personal sexual choice: she is well known...for being well known. That's what we do with people who are on tv. Sad eh.

Her public profile means her active support for a cause catches more attention. We don't have to like it, we don't have to agree with her, but it's foolish to pretend she shouldn't draw publicity. There's possibly a little ego involved but Ali Mau is on tv every week - she doesn't need more attention, she's already in NZs tiny pool of celebrities.

Crasherfromwayback
27th May 2012, 09:41
Flipping this for a second - who can you point to and say, "holy shit, she's a wonderful role model"? I can think of Sarah Ulmer, and then I run out of ideas... .. [/I]

That's more a sad reflection on you though.

gammaguy
27th May 2012, 10:52
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/6953223/Mau-tells-anti-gays-to-chill-out

Television presenter Ali Mau wants homophobic Kiwis to wake up.

...

The Fair Go presenter came out in 2010 about her relationship with Karleen Edmonds.

Despite being forced to come out before she was ready, Mau said she was sure enough of herself to trust her feelings.

"It was a bit of a surprise, but it's not something I had a deep moral wrestle with. I just thought, 'I am really into this person.' It didn't matter what gender she was."

Riiiight.

Female sexuality is often fluid. Ms Mau was with a man before this partner and may well be with a man again for her next one. If I was a gay man I'd suspect her of taking something intrinsic to my identity, something personal and sacred, and using it as an assumed badge of coolness.

Is Ali M just stroking her ego by identifying herself with a hip social trend? Does her dilettantish dalliance with muff-diving and smug acceptance of the spotlight diminish the struggle for acceptance by genuinely homosexual people who've been persecuted by Western society for hundreds of years?

Is Alan Turing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing) rolling in his grave?

Or is this sort of shallow behaviour by a media personality just an inevitable cost of an open and accepting society, and by far the lesser of two evils?

Should Alison just shut up and show us her tits?

Discuss.


Alan Turing does not even deserve mention in the same millennium as Ms Mau.

His contribution to society and the world in general is immeasurably superior to some female who decided she wanted to play for the same team and then make a platform about it.

Personally I could care less where she get s her sexual kicks,but could(and have)listened to Alan Turings theories and studies for hours and hours.

madbikeboy
27th May 2012, 22:57
That's more a sad reflection on you though.

That I can only think of Sarah Ulmer as a role model? So, hit me with a list then? It's tougher than it sounds...

husaberg
27th May 2012, 23:12
That I can only think of Sarah Ulmer as a role model? So, hit me with a list then? It's tougher than it sounds...


My mum and Dad and immediate family, my teachers , my coaches, My neighbour's and my friends.
Were all positive role models. Do we need any more?

Celebs and Athletes need not be role models. it is nice when they are positive ones just as educational when they are negitive ones.
but its not really their job to be role model for us, or our children is it?

Crasherfromwayback
28th May 2012, 10:34
That I can only think of Sarah Ulmer as a role model? So, hit me with a list then? It's tougher than it sounds...

Off the top of my head how 'bout the Ever-Swindell twins, Valerie Adamas, Irene Van Dyk and Melissa Moon to name a few.

Tigadee
28th May 2012, 11:40
Are celebs role models? I actually discourage my girls to look at celebs (whether in sports, fashion, media, etc), as role models or example of reality. They are as likely to disappoint as they are to encourage.

Husaberg is right, the good folk around you, the everyday hard working, common sense and loving encouragers and mentors are the genuine role models, not those who excel in sports, look good in underwear catalogs or work in the media - they're already overpaid to begin with.

oneofsix
28th May 2012, 11:55
Are celebs role models? I actually discourage my girls to look at celebs (whether in sports, fashion, media, etc), as role models or example of reality. They are as likely to disappoint as they are to encourage.

Husaberg is right, the good folk around you, the everyday hard working, common sense and loving encouragers and mentors are the genuine role models, not those who excel in sports, look good in underwaer catalogs or work in the media - they're already overpaid to begin with.

Q: "Are celebs role models?"
A: yes, whether you like it or not. They aren't good ones, you can even try to teach your childern they are negative ones, 'don't do this yourself'. However the media, teachers and trheir mates will refer to them and use them as role models. Because modern society see celebs as the top of the heap (dung heap) then regardless of what you try, role models they are. Also because the media love scandal, the worse they are the more they will be pushed at you.

In the end all you can do is help your children make wise choices. Keep up the good work and wish you success.

Tigadee
28th May 2012, 12:49
Cheers, thanks OOS... :niceone:

HenryDorsetCase
28th May 2012, 13:42
Off the top of my head how 'bout the Ever-Swindell twins, Valerie Adamas, Irene Van Dyk and Melissa Moon to name a few.

Sarah Walker, Ali Shanks, Vanessa Quin three more (all cyclists)

Crasherfromwayback
28th May 2012, 13:43
Sarah Walker, Ali Shanks, Vanessa Quin three more (all cyclists)

And from what I've seen...all positive fine role models from the sporting world.

HenryDorsetCase
28th May 2012, 13:45
Alan Turing does not even deserve mention in the same millennium as Ms Mau.

.

They dont have to be, since Turing killed himself in the Twen Cen and Ali is a 21st Century construct mainly.

Turing is a bona fide genius without doubt. Bletchley Park, Naval ENIGMA, blimmin' computers and computational theory..... .

HenryDorsetCase
28th May 2012, 13:46
And from what I've seen...all positive fine role models from the sporting world.

I'm sorry I thought todays category was "hot women with strong legs"

but i guess it works as "positive role models" too

Winston001
28th May 2012, 21:07
This was Marcellus new wife! So he sent a couple of guys over. They took Ali out on the patio of the apartment,
threw her ass over the balcony. Gal fell four stories.

They had this garden at the bottom, enclosed in glass, like one of them
greenhouses – Pillow Queen fell right through that.

Since then, she's kinda developed a speech impediment...lalala mmmmmm





Just sayin. Coulda happened.

Crasherfromwayback
28th May 2012, 23:02
This was Marcellus new wife! .

A Royal with cheese?

husaberg
28th May 2012, 23:08
A Royal with cheese?

And beer at Mcdonalds as well that wacked:msn-wink:

Winston001
28th May 2012, 23:11
Check out the big brain on Crasherfromwayback! You're a smart motherfucker. That's right! The metric system. Damn.

Hmm...What's in this?

(whimper) Sprite...

Sprite, good. You mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash this down? Mmmm mm hit the spot.

Now...


a few minutes later in a place not so far away


What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' niggers, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass.




(now that is one of my all time favourites!!)

husaberg
28th May 2012, 23:26
There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you." Now... I been sayin' that shit for years. And if you ever heard it, that meant your ass. You'd be dead right now. I never gave much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was a cold-blooded thing to say to a motherfucker before I popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some shit this mornin' made me think twice. See, now I'm thinking: maybe it means you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here... he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. And I'd like that. But that shit ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.

look below Winton is here hello Mr Wolf
Are you here to clean up?
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Winston001
28th May 2012, 23:50
I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, okay? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is.

Bonnie buys...aw but I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it. But you know what's on my mind right now? It AIN'T the coffee in my kitchen, it's the dead nigger in my garage.


Ah Jimmie....(nervous chuckle ) -


No, No, No, No, let me ask you a question. When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said "Dead Nigger Storage"?

No. I didn't.

You know WHY you didn't see that sign?

Why? 'Cause it ain't there, 'cause storing dead niggers ain't my fucking business, that's why!

HenryDorsetCase
29th May 2012, 08:18
A Royal with cheese?

They got the metric system, they don't know what the fuck a quarter pounder is.

HenryDorsetCase
29th May 2012, 08:20
From where I'm standin' the motherfucker looks tip top.

mashman
29th May 2012, 09:56
Vincent: Want some bacon?
Jules: No man, I don't eat pork.
Vincent: Are you Jewish?
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all.
Vincent: Why not?
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got sense enough to disregard its own feces.
Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.
Jules: I don't eat dog either.
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules: Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charming motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?

HenryDorsetCase
29th May 2012, 10:36
why are we doing quotes from PULP FICTION?


Check out the big brain on Brett!

husaberg
29th May 2012, 18:39
why are we doing quotes from PULP FICTION?


Check out the big brain on Brett!

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

Winston001
29th May 2012, 19:01
Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.


You hear that, young lady? Ali?

Character. Respect.

You could learn a lot from Brian Edwards and Kevin Milne. Respect for one's elders shows character.

husaberg
29th May 2012, 23:21
It seems Ali's not the only one coming out.
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Berries
29th May 2012, 23:29
I was going to go to bed but after that delectable little photo I'm now hungry.

avgas
1st June 2012, 14:42
Awesome program, too! Independent thought, self- learning, eats up research on every subject, relates with all academic and social classes...
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