Nostradamus: 2012 - Be Afraid

[wharekura]

While patching up a friends 1.6ghz laptop, I started watching NOSTRADAMUS: 2012 on isky history channel. If nostrals predictions dont kill me, the scare mongering documentary almost did. What a load of crap - quick, all run to the hills. My work mate years ago strongly believed in Planet X - I was close to suggesting to the boss that we should do drug testing.
Am I too much of a skeptic?

[slofox]

People have been predicting the end of the world since the year dot. All bullshit - so far anyway...

[wharekura]

I forgot to mention what triggered this thread - there is an eclipse today which is part of nostrils predictions about 2012. regardless, this crap is food for the weak and the meak - so quickly buga off to your local church and repent while you still have time. or you can give me $9.95 and through the power vested in me, you'll be forgiven.

[mashman]

Nibiru? Hercolubus? or some such thing will happen at some point in time. If it's this year, then thank fuck for that. Tis no stranger than people believing in invisible beings :innocent:

[MisterD]

My work mate years ago strongly believed in Planet X -

Planet X, Liverpool's finest Alternative nightclub...at least when Wayne Hussey wasn't trying to scrounge a fag

[PrincessBandit]

Thought I heard the other day another Mayan calendar has been found (which I believe goes past the dreaded Dec date) so I reckon we're good for a wee while longer yet chicken little

[Pussy]

Laugh all you want.... the world is going to be taken over by johos.... :D

[avgas]

The world exploded eons ago.
We are merely all simple constructs of someones/somethings fantastical imagination.
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There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather

[Edbear]

I forgot to mention what triggered this thread - there is an eclipse today which is part of nostrils predictions about 2012. regardless, this crap is food for the weak and the meak - so quickly buga off to your local church and repent while you still have time. or you can give me $9.95 and through the power vested in me, you'll be forgiven.

You're cheap! :blink:


Thought I heard the other day another Mayan calendar has been found (which I believe goes past the dreaded Dec date) so I reckon we're good for a wee while longer yet chicken little

Yeah I saw that.

[mashman]

Thought I heard the other day another Mayan calendar has been found (which I believe goes past the dreaded Dec date) so I reckon we're good for a wee while longer yet chicken little

Yup. They said it was the same calendar, but there were more of them. See ya'll on the day after tomorrow :eek:
"which fortunately for all of us isn’t that far away." (http://www.universetoday.com/95097/end-of-the-world-averted-new-archeological-find-proves-mayan-calendar-doesnt-end/)... Yay a new Baktun.

[Mooch]

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It's gonna happen

[mashman]

I see alien experiments are on the up (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/13740331/increase-in-ufo-sightings/). Praps they're picking us up coz we're all gonna die in December and they need people to repopulate the earth. I hope they protect the internet too.

[wharekura]

I see alien experiments are on the up (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/13740331/increase-in-ufo-sightings/). Praps they're picking us up coz we're all gonna die in December and they need people to repopulate the earth. I hope they protect the internet too.Sounds like a N.Cage movie called Knowing.

[mashman]

Sounds like a N.Cage movie called Knowing.

OMG... but are we out of coffee?

[Swoop]

Bugger Nostradamus. I'm more worried about Len Brown and the damage he's causing.

[nathanwhite]

When the prediction was made, they wern't using the Gregorian calendar with it's leap years. Once you take those into account it should have happened over six months ago.

[gijoe1313]

When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout! :wings:

[wharekura]

When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout! :wings:
Or for a one low price of $4.95 (down from $9.95) including p&p, you'll receive high quality, long lasting Repentance.

[Scuba_Steve]

Planet X, Liverpool's finest Alternative nightclub...at least when Wayne Hussey wasn't trying to scrounge a fag

"Liverpool's finest Alternative nightclub" must be their only straight club then ay :lol:

Glory, Glory Man United!!!



Or for a one low price of $4.95 (down from $9.95) including p&p, you'll receive high quality, long lasting Repentance.


I'll not only supply high quality, long lasting repentance. I'll throw in bucket 'o nothing absolutely free for only 99 99 99


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0uW9AFyS4I

[george formby]

Scuba steve, you desperately need one of these.

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[mashman]

Glory, Glory Man United!!!

... and a kickin :innocent:

[Tigadee]

I too predict the world will end in 643 million years, 5 days and 2 hours... from now.

643 million years, 5 days, 1 hour and 59 mins, 59 secs... from now.

643 million years, 5 days,...

[Taz]

......."Why did they write on walls, as opposed to other Mayan texts that have been found on bark paper?

The time period of the early 9th century was not a stable time for the Mayans, as there was political turmoil between the various city-states of the time, and the researchers said that perhaps the Xultun scribes wished to make a more permanent record of their data related to the calendar.".....


Or perhaps they just didn't have any friggin paper? Or perhaps they found a new use for paper.... "hey xiltobak Look what I just discovered!! we no longer have to wipe our arses with rocks!"

[george formby]

If you look at how many customers I've had today, 0, zero, I think the end may be already here & heading south. Spookie, wonder when the zombies come out?:confused:

[Tigadee]

......."Why did they write on walls, as opposed to other Mayan texts that have been found on bark paper?

"hey xiltobak Look what I just discovered!! we no longer have to wipe our arses with rocks!"

...or on the walls any more!

[pzkpfw]

...or on the walls any more!

COLIN McCAHON http://www.art-newzealand.com/Issues31to40/5thbiennale.htm

Just sayin'

(Some of that shit on the walls is apparently worth money!)

[BoristheBiter]

If you look at how many customers I've had today, 0, zero, I think the end may be already here & heading south. Spookie, wonder when the zombies come out?:confused:

http://cdn.armslist.com/images/posts/634594772595689235x5fwxrii.jpg

You can never be to careful.

[avgas]

I too predict the world will end in 643 million years, 5 days and 2 hours... from now.

643 million years, 5 days, 1 hour and 59 mins, 59 secs... from now.

643 million years, 5 days,...
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What will I wear???????
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[Swoop]

You can never be to careful.
Buahahaha!

Good find! I thought it might have been some photoshop going on there... but NO!

http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax

Only pissant 115gr projectiles for the 9mm? And 185's for the .45? What are they thinking??!

[Jantar]

Let Nostradamus bring it on. I'm safe.

And I still have a few spare custom made tinfoil hats at only $9.99 plus postage. :laugh:

[BoristheBiter]

Buahahaha!

Good find! I thought it might have been some photoshop going on there... but NO!

http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax

Only pissant 115gr projectiles for the 9mm? And 185's for the .45? What are they thinking??!

Come on it's Zombies, you should be using a 12g pump action.
Haven't you seen the movies.

[wharekura]

And I still have a few spare custom made tinfoil hats at only $9.99 plus postage. :laugh:
What sizes do u have please. I need one for me, wife, 3 kids and cat.

[Swoop]

Come on it's Zombies, you should be using a 12g pump action.
Haven't you seen the movies.
A cricket bat is also acceptable, according to Shaun of the Dead.:first:

[NighthawkNZ]

While patching up a friends 1.6ghz laptop, I started watching NOSTRADAMUS: 2012 on isky history channel. If nostrals predictions dont kill me, the scare mongering documentary almost did. What a load of crap - quick, all run to the hills. My work mate years ago strongly believed in Planet X - I was close to suggesting to the boss that we should do drug testing.
Am I too much of a skeptic?

NOSTRADAMUS never predicated anything for 2012 that date or year is never mentioned in any of his quatrans, he goes on to predicat up into the 3770 or something so can't be the end of the world... (and that is not to say that is the end of the world either, as he say it is just as far as he can see) His predications were so vague that you could put them to most things that happen during anytime.

2012 is a western idea, even the Mayan themself are saying it is nothing. The Mayan calendar ends on the 21 dec 2012, and a new one starts on the 22nd (the 13 bak'tun cycle). The Mayan never actually made any predications what so ever for this date. If it was so important to them there would be more mentions of it. Other than the one other spot. To them it is just another day. The Maya had other calendars that went to the year 4800 and something... and just the other day they found even more.

This BS has to stop as there are people that are falling for it... a few young people have already commited sucide over this BS and it has to stop...

Planet X/Nibiru
If there is a Planet X supposidly 4 times the size or mass of Earth that is suppose to hit or come close to Earth in Dec 2012... where is it? it would be visiable withthe naked eye..., it would be on every news channel.

Nibiru... does not exsist... Zecharia Sitchin's mythical planet can not exsist it would be breaking all known laws of physics... The name means crossing or ferry, and is usually tied to Jupiter, which is known as the planet of the crossing. The orbit these doomsays say is immpossible, it would have been thrown out of the solar system in its first pass...

and if it could do this orbit which it can not... it would be bombarded as it went through the astroid belt, cook as it made such a close pass to the sun, and at the same token ripped apart by the high speed turn it makes around the sun, then play dodge ball with all the other planets, pass through the astroid belt a again, freeze goes to the outter solar system pass through the Kuiper Belt playing more dodge ball, then continue out to the outter reaches of the Suns gravitational influces and make a sharpe about face and start to do the process again... all in 3600 years and... and he says there is life on this planet? I think not.

Stitchin made stuff up missed out other parts and missinturpted alot to make his story fit.

Anunnaki his mythical Aliems... Stitchin says "Those from the heavens came" when it actually means "of royal blood" or "Princely blood"

The planetary alignments look cool but thats about it. Alignment that these doomsayers say that will happen and cause all crap... ummm did they forget to mention that it happens every year?

There are no increase on average for earthquakes, no dark rift, no astroid, no wormwood, nibiru, planet x, no Nemesis, there is not going to be a pole shift and a magnet pole shift whilst can happen takes thousands of years... and if it does so what all you will have to do is fix your compass...

Sigh ...

http://www.2012hoax.org/


I must admit though there are ZOmbies... but they have been contained in Parilment... for the time being...


When the prediction was made, they wern't using the Gregorian calendar with it's leap years. Once you take those into account it should have happened over six months ago.

Not true... http://www.2012hoax.org/mayan-calendar#toc12


The earth will end in about 5 billion years when our sun dies...

[Tigadee]

Great fiction which unfortunately a few guillible and some less intelligent fall for...

L Ron Hubbard himself was a science fiction writer who founded Scientology at first as a gag, then money-making venture and finally with his downward spiral into insanity, began believing the shite he was spewing). Unfortunately many of his followers put their whole hearts and minds into it...

[pzkpfw]

Great fiction which unfortunately a few guillible and some less intelligent fall for...

L Ron Hubbard himself was a science fiction writer who founded Scientology at first as a gag, then money-making venture and finally with his downward spiral into insanity, began believing the shite he was spewing). Unfortunately many of his followers put their whole hearts and minds into it...

Not quite (according to my memory of the autobiography of him).

He started dianetics, then sort of lost control of it. So he started scientology to re-gain control, incorporating his dianetics piffle but as a religion because he noted religions were tax-free.

Not a bad life, cruising the Med with scantily clad young woman as crew of the yacht, being rubbed down with coco butter and occasionally landing to dig for gold buried in a former life time...

[Tigadee]

Not a bad life, cruising the Med with scantily clad young woman as crew of the yacht, being rubbed down with coco butter and occasionally landing to dig for gold buried in a former life time...

Oh, I thought that was Hugh Hefner...

[mashman]

Planet X/Nibiru
If there is a Planet X supposidly 4 times the size or mass of Earth that is suppose to hit or come close to Earth in Dec 2012... where is it? it would be visiable withthe naked eye..., it would be on every news channel.

Only if it reflects light. Am I a believer. Yes, but not in the way you highlight. How was Marduk destroyed :innocent:? It'll happen someday, maybe not this year, or next, or next decade etc... but it will happen. The world was flat once and the universe is held to together by invisible strings.

[NighthawkNZ]

Only if it reflects light.

Depends on how big it is... how close it is... who is looking, and with what... If it is a planet it will reflect light... are you going to come up with some pseudoscience and say there is a dark matter planet in the solar system... or some crap it is behind sun... sorry doesn't stack up...

Also, even an old, dim brown dwarf puts out light. A typical dim brown dwarf would still be a very bright object if it were anywhere near the inner solar system, or even located way out beyond Pluto. Remember too that a brown dwarf will still reflect sunlight (like Jupiter and the other planets do), making it even brighter. So if Planet X were a brown dwarf, it would have been obvious in the sky years ago.

And also if for what ever reason didn't reflect light and if it was in the solar system we would still be able to detect it via the array of other tools we have at our disposal... oh wait, its a cover up I forgot... If there was another heavenly body the size claimed anywhere near our solar system we would know about it, just by watching the orbits of the other planets. It simply isn't there...


Am I a believer. Yes, but not in the way you highlight.

A believer in what?

Zecharia Sitchin made most of this crap up back in the 60's, and now modern day histerria is taking over. His writings have been prooven to be wrong, over and over again. But even with that said and dpne other authers, doom gloom people are using his writings as the source for there own BS crap and scare moungering. http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/
The Mayan Calendar didn't predict anything it was not a prophecy tool.
If you believen in any of the religous writings well that is your choice. But most people even after they study the writings don't get it... including preachers and pastors monks and teachers... christain or islam, hindu or Buddhism. (most religons today have come full cycle and nothing has happened we are still here. But thats another post)
Nostrodamus was so vague in his quartans you could make anything you do in an average day and make it sound like the prediction can be true...
Zoombie Apocalypse ... well yah got me there they have already taken of Parilment... :rolleyes:

Again A believer in what?


How was Marduk destroyed :innocent:?

Sumerian gods were all assoisated with planets as in most religions of the time and Marduk, (probably pronounced Marutuk.) the planet Jupiter was associated with Marduk... Jupiter is still there... the largest planet in our solar system... the head god. Just as the Myth said. Then Jupiter (Juno) came the Roman god...



It'll happen someday, maybe not this year, or next, or next decade etc... but it will happen. The world was flat once and the universe is held to together by invisible strings.

What will happen... the end of the erath? Yes in 5 billion years time when the sun dies...

The world was never flat... it was only in certian cultures that were held back by religon that thought that and even then the science of the time was say it wasn't. The Greeks knew it was not flat... Chiness as well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

I am guessing you believe Nancy Lieder and her planet X... that cow would know the first thing about physics and is full of BS as much as Harold Camping was. Simply put what about them? Pure fantasy. Orginally Nancy Lieder said Planet X or Niburu was to be here in 2003, when that day came and went she convenitally changed the story saying it was to throw the establishment off and is now arriving in 2012 (when she heard about the so call Mayan calendar). Or in another words she lied, she is a fraud, and personally a bit coo coo.

Think about it, to throw the establishment off on its true arrival. The establishment NASA, the same NASA that is supposedly covering up this planet. I mean come on how lame.


When Zecharia Sitchin wrote his books, using pseudo-science to come to his conclusions, Nancy Lieder simply followed his ideas (which are wrong I might add). And when things don't happen as she predicts she changes the story or moves the goal posts. Uses fantasy science (not even pseudo science but fantasy) with big words and makes it sound real to those that know no better.


But simply put if there was a planet that was going to hit us or pass that close where is is it? Remember it is up to them to proove the claim not up to us to disproove (even though that is what we are doing) If the planet was there we would know about it.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/nutshell.html

[Tigadee]

What will happen... the end of the erath? Yes in 5 billion years time when the sun dies...

:gob: What?! You mean all my 3 mins of calculations scribbled on paper towels in the pub were all for naught?!


I too predict the world will end in 643 million years, 5 days and 2 hours... from now.
643 million years, 5 days, 1 hour and 59 mins, 59 secs... from now.
643 million years, 5 days,...

Back to the pub... At least I was only off a few billion years...:wait:

[mashman]

Depends on how big it is... how close it is... who is looking, and with what... If it is a planet it will reflect light... are you going to come up with some pseudoscience and say there is a dark matter planet in the solar system... or some crap it is behind sun... sorry doesn't stack up...

A believer in what?



Pseudoscience, heh, nahhhhh, I'm sure we know everything about the universe and that there's no such thing as a "dark" planet :cool:

My bad, Maldek was the planet I was thinking about, the one that is hypothesised to have been between Jupiter and Mars and whose remnants make up the asteroid belt. Yeah yeah, failed planet etc... there are plenty of explanations of why the asteroids are there. Why not a smashed planet? What smashed into Venus that removed its theorised moon and also reversed it's spin? There are plenty of things we've never seen and/or can't conceive so I'll not rule any of them out tyvm :bleh: because no 1 can be proven without a doubt.

Essentially the above is my belief. Where there is theory there is possibility and until someone can say for sure, I'll likely believe in all of them in some way or another, if not only because the theory is feasible. Just because the path of an object looks like it shouldn't be "feasible" doesn't mean that there aren't other influences that hold that object in that path, influences that we can't yet "calculate". Again that could be pie in the sky, but that doesn't mean that it isn't possible.

As for the cover up... again I believe in it as much as I don't. I certainly wouldn't put it past TPTB to cover up the existence of such a thing just in case people get all "jumpy" and start throwing themselves off bridges and yelling the sky is falling etc... but that's doesn't mean that I'll limit my belief to that 1 theory. As I said, I'm a believer but not in the way you highlight or want me to be :bleh:

[wharekura]

Pseudoscience, heh, nahhhhh, I'm sure we know everything about the universe and that there's no such thing as a "dark" planet :cool:
...cover up the existence of such a thing just in case people get all "jumpy" and start throwing themselves off bridges and yelling the sky is falling etc...as i mentioned initially, only the weak and the meek will be jumping. IF at all that it came a time when a news broadcast said we had a day left on earth, I would go home and give my family a hug and wont let them go until the end...except for toilet stops of course.

[mashman]

as i mentioned initially, only the weak and the meek will be jumping. IF at all that it came a time when a news broadcast said we had a day left on earth, I would go home and give my family a hug and wont let them go until the end...except for toilet stops of course.

Awwwww, that's nice... almost brought a tear to my eye. I'll probably take the couch outside, grab some popcorn and wait to see what happens with the family... unless I've made enough cash to sit at the bottom of the ocean in a submarine, which is unlikely.

[wharekura]

With the transit of venus (or whatever it was) and the eclipse before that - the signs are there - we all going to DIE!

[george formby]

I'm trying to think of a punch line for the "dim brown dwarf". Help me out.:rolleyes:

[flyingcrocodile46]

I found this documentary exceedingly enthralling. If you find the history of civilizations before recorded history interesting, I think you will enjoy it, and interpreting the information in various ways results in unique conclusions relative to how most people view the long long past.
The film is 2 hrs long, so it is best to watch when you have time to "drop" into it and let your mind simmer. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
There is no end to the Mayan calendar. That is because it is a circle. I Ching confirms it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpJ3yO4-Xpo

It has to be far and away the best single theory yet put forward that attempts to answer a hugely wide range of mysteries that I have see. Mind boggling stuff.

I don't know whether to be apprehensive or optimistic http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/xsmilie_lol.gif

Sure makes you wonder

[BoristheBiter]

I found this documentary exceedingly enthralling. If you find the history of civilizations before recorded history interesting, I think you will enjoy it, and interpreting the information in various ways results in unique conclusions relative to how most people view the long long past.
The film is 2 hrs long, so it is best to watch when you have time to "drop" into it and let your mind simmer. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
There is no end to the Mayan calendar. That is because it is a circle. I Ching confirms it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpJ3yO4-Xpo

It has to be far and away the best single theory yet put forward that attempts to answer a hugely wide range of mysteries that I have see. Mind boggling stuff.

I don't know whether to be apprehensive or optimistic http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/xsmilie_lol.gif

Sure makes you wonder

Will watch later but I do remember reading an Arthur C Clark book on the subject and there was something about an old Indian manuscript that was dated about 50K years ago that talked about an advanced culture that blew themselves up (paraphrasing here).
It was supposed to be written by someone that survived.

[mashman]

With the transit of venus (or whatever it was) and the eclipse before that - the signs are there - we all going to DIE!

Thank fuck for that! I'm hoping Hekla pops first though

[unstuck]

we all going to DIE!

Yep, guaranteed.:rockon:

[BoristheBiter]

I found this documentary exceedingly enthralling. If you find the history of civilizations before recorded history interesting, I think you will enjoy it, and interpreting the information in various ways results in unique conclusions relative to how most people view the long long past.
The film is 2 hrs long, so it is best to watch when you have time to "drop" into it and let your mind simmer. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
There is no end to the Mayan calendar. That is because it is a circle. I Ching confirms it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpJ3yO4-Xpo

It has to be far and away the best single theory yet put forward that attempts to answer a hugely wide range of mysteries that I have see. Mind boggling stuff.

I don't know whether to be apprehensive or optimistic http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/xsmilie_lol.gif

Sure makes you wonder

It was good up until that guy started talking about the psychedelics he had used while theorizing about the subject.

I guess we will just have to wait another 6 months to see who's right.
Personally I think there was some people here and they did make all this but to say that the world changes on a cycle is pushing the boat out a little to far.
But i will be stocking up on food and ammo, just to be on the safe side.;)

[flyingcrocodile46]

It was good up until that guy started talking about the psychedelics he had used while theorizing about the subject.

I guess we will just have to wait another 6 months to see who's right.
Personally I think there was some people here and they did make all this but to say that the world changes on a cycle is pushing the boat out a little to far.
But i will be stocking up on food and ammo, just to be on the safe side.;)

Snap! Though I might also glance wistfully at them plants while assembling my stockpile :lol:

[BoristheBiter]

Snap! Though I might also glance wistfully at them plants while assembling my stockpile :lol:

hope they flower before the 21st

[mashman]

I found this documentary exceedingly enthralling. If you find the history of civilizations before recorded history interesting, I think you will enjoy it, and interpreting the information in various ways results in unique conclusions relative to how most people view the long long past.
The film is 2 hrs long, so it is best to watch when you have time to "drop" into it and let your mind simmer. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
There is no end to the Mayan calendar. That is because it is a circle. I Ching confirms it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpJ3yO4-Xpo

It has to be far and away the best single theory yet put forward that attempts to answer a hugely wide range of mysteries that I have see. Mind boggling stuff.

I don't know whether to be apprehensive or optimistic http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/xsmilie_lol.gif

Sure makes you wonder

That was a pretty decent watch. I've seen a doco on the ancient structures and their relationships to the stars before, but it was an interesting theory in regards to atlantis and sudden climate change.

I thought the I Ching confirmed that we were spiraling into the "singularity" point, which McKennas wave analysis bore out, and not a circle? as McKennas analysis ended on an oddly familiar date and made no reference to confirming that the wave would start again?

[flyingcrocodile46]

I thought the I Ching confirmed that we were spiraling into the "singularity" point, which McKennas wave analysis bore out, and not a circle? as McKennas analysis ended on an oddly familiar date and made no reference to confirming that the wave would start again?

Perhaps it spirals into a new dimension in which everything is a million times smaller and the spiral is really big again. Who knows!

[BoristheBiter]

That was a pretty decent watch. I've seen a doco on the ancient structures and their relationships to the stars before, but it was an interesting theory in regards to atlantis and sudden climate change.

I thought the I Ching confirmed that we were spiraling into the "singularity" point, which McKennas wave analysis bore out, and not a circle? as McKennas analysis ended on an oddly familiar date and made no reference to confirming that the wave would start again?


Perhaps it spirals into a new dimension in which everything is a million times smaller and the spiral is really big again. Who knows!

That was the hardest thing to take seriously as it doesn't talk about what happens after, when all the others talk about an event then the cycle starts again.

also if Mckennas theory is to be correct we will be having bigger and bigger events all this year but it seems to have gone a bit quiet and how many things have been missed that don't fit the sequence.
It's a bit like using statistics, they can be changed to fit the argument.

[mashman]

Perhaps it spirals into a new dimension in which everything is a million times smaller and the spiral is really big again. Who knows!

Fair point... there was mention of multiple dimensions. Anyway, how did you get on with yer plants?


That was the hardest thing to take seriously as it doesn't talk about what happens after, when all the others talk about an event then the cycle starts again.

also if Mckennas theory is to be correct we will be having bigger and bigger events all this year but it seems to have gone a bit quiet and how many things have been missed that don't fit the sequence.
It's a bit like using statistics, they can be changed to fit the argument.

circle of life It's the wheel of fortune It's the leap of faith It's the band of hope Till we find our place On the path unwinding In the circle.

It depends on whether you class bigger and bigger events as natural events increasing in frequency and strength, or whether it's human events, which do seem to be getting bigger and bigger.
Is that not probabilities as he was "predicting" the future?

[flyingcrocodile46]

That was the hardest thing to take seriously as it doesn't talk about what happens after, when all the others talk about an event then the cycle starts again.

also if Mckennas theory is to be correct we will be having bigger and bigger events all this year but it seems to have gone a bit quiet and how many things have been missed that don't fit the sequence.
It's a bit like using statistics, they can be changed to fit the argument.

I don't disagree, but it is nevertheless very intriguing and as Mashman said, a lot of the remaining events may be stages of our enlightenment as we become aware of true spiritualism (as opposed to the falsehood of religion), biological mastery, scientific (incl alchemy/time/etc) and who knows what else. Besides, there is still plenty of time for the end of the world by way of storms, earthquakes tsunamis, comets etc. Don't panic just yet (either way);)

[mashman]

I don't disagree, but it is nevertheless very intriguing and as Mashman said, a lot of the remaining events may be stages of our enlightenment as we become aware of true spiritualism (as opposed to the falsehood of religion), biological mastery, scientific (incl alchemy/time/etc) and who knows what else. Besides, there is still plenty of time for the end of the world by way of storms, earthquakes tsunamis, comets etc. Don't panic just yet (either way);)

A chum mentioned that it will probably take a natural disaster, something larger than Chch, to bring about the enlightenment of man. I'm inclined to agree with him as preparing for such an event, real preparation, not just a kit with water and food, is either seen as a waste of money or the money isn't there to allow us to become a proactive society instead of a reactive society. Priceless given that the probability of natural disasters (locally or globally) is 100% and the cost of prevention would be cheaper than the cost of reaction. Such a shame.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Conflicts with zero point but a very covincing theory on how the earth growing has split what was one just a solid mostly flat land mass covered with marshes and really big puddles (or very shallow seas).


http://youtu.be/oJfBSc6e7QQ

[Brett]

I will put a wager on there still being shit talked about on KB in January 2013...and I will be rocking the holidays on some beach somewhere. If the worst comes to the worst, I have the survival skills to keep myself and my family alive...however, I suspect that unless I start spending extended amounts of time flying over say...Alaska...that the chances of needing to use them out of necessity will be slim. It all seems a little Chicken Little to me.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I will put a wager on there still being shit talked about on KB in January 2013...and I will be rocking the holidays on some beach somewhere. If the worst comes to the worst, I have the survival skills to keep myself and my family alive...however, I suspect that unless I start spending extended amounts of time flying over say...Alaska...that the chances of needing to use them out of necessity will be slim. It all seems a little Chicken Little to me.

Indeed, I don't buy into the deadline = doom aspect (though don't totally discount it either) and think choosing to disbelieve all or any of the proposed theories is quite understandable but the evidence and questions that they raise is intriguing nonetheless and to ignore them seems a little ignorant, arrogant and boring.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Have you guys heard of the Baltic Anomaly discovered last year?

My pick is that it's one of our old terra forming machine

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/baltic-sea-ufo-hunters_n_1556150.html




They found two:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/swedish-shipwreck-hunters/index.html?hpt=hp_t3


and, the men who stare at goats claim they know what it is:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/baltic-sea-uso-identified-146447345.html



http://youtu.be/ls7Qb37FxiA

[mashman]

Have you guys heard of the Baltic Anomaly discovered last year?

My pick is that it's one of our old terra forming machine

I'll go for something a little more conventional. That once upon a the Baltic Sea wasn't a body of water and it being hard to shift such large stones up to the top of Mount Sweden, people settled on the valley floor below and the object seen is an early day convention centre. When the ocean flowed over the top of ridge that held it back, it flooded the valley creating the Baltic Sea and only those who were lucky enough to own a dragon (or flying horse) were able to escape.

[Blackshear]

Not sure if it's been covered yet, but anyone that predicts eclipses and all the whatnot are a few thousand years too slow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
They built a prediction computer/clock some while back.

[mashman]

Not sure if it's been covered yet, but anyone that predicts eclipses and all the whatnot are a few thousand years too slow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
They built a prediction computer/clock some while back.

hardly a prediction given that it happen like clockwork :laugh:

[Headbanger]

2012?

It was released in 2008, and it has to be said, Its an overblown pompous wankfest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n19nUjLDg9I

[wharekura]

[QUOTE=Headbanger;1130339654]2012?[QUOTE]
Sad Wings of Destiny - my favorite album

[Headbanger]

Sad Wings of Destiny - my favorite album


Suffers from a serious lack of Nostradamus though......

[Blackshear]

hardly a prediction given that it happen like clockwork :laugh:

There's a doco on it, 'BBC's the two thousand year old computer'. Wanks on a bit but they weren't daft back then, granted planets hardly hit traffic lights.

[mashman]

There's a doco on it, 'BBC's the two thousand year old computer'. Wanks on a bit but they weren't daft back then, granted planets hardly hit traffic lights.

I saw one on that very device a while ago I (maybe the same one), well a couple or so years ago. Some guy was trying to recreate it using perspex and chains (amongst other things) and was having a helluva time trying to re-create it. Certainly gave a perspective on how bright and talented them fellas from before antiquity where.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Sheeesh! You guys got no clues.

Its obviously a part off Guy Pearce's Time machine from our dim distant past when it got busted up in the old future, last time around when we did the zero point spiral down that plug hole in the Baltic Sea :facepalm:

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/flyingcrocodile46/Time_machine.jpg

[Blackshear]

I saw one on that very device a while ago I (maybe the same one), well a couple or so years ago. Some guy was trying to recreate it using perspex and chains (amongst other things) and was having a helluva time trying to re-create it. Certainly gave a perspective on how bright and talented them fellas from before antiquity where.

The one I squizzed had what they thought to be a full replica, trippy shit, well worth a rewatch.

[wharekura]

Maybe I mocked world destruction a bit too much http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10869923

[Swoop]

I wonder how serious China is. They have the opportunities to take action against the Norvern' Munkees via isolation or overthrow. The Munkees refuse to open up the economy to free enterprise and copy the Chinese example since this will ruin the powerbase and lifestyle of the rulers.
Interesting times ahead... for NK.

[Zedder]

Maybe I mocked world destruction a bit too much http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10869923

After living through part of the Cold War and the ever present threat of someone "pushing the button" this is a bit of a rerun.

I'll be certainly be interesting to see what happens though.

Incidently, another asteroid (football field size) is headed our way but is predicted to come within 960,000 kms of earth this weekend.