Jacket for winter adventure riding recommendations?

[Taz]

Need a new jacket as my 15 year old Clover jacket is nearing the end of it's life.....

What are the recommendations for jackets around the 250 to 400 mark? I have a DriRider Rallycross which I kinda hate and it's cold in the winter.

I like the look of the DriRider Nordic and don't really want the waterproof lining to be removeable.

So what do youse fulla's use?

[Oscar]

I've got a Rev'it jacket that I'm pretty happy with.
It's got a rain liner which works well, Rev'it works on the assumption that it is impossible to make the exterior of a jacket waterproof.

[Rosie]

My old teknic jacket was nice and warm, and the outer was fully waterproof for the first 4-odd years of its life. Clearly it was a gurl jacket, but I'm sure they make the boy ones out of the same stuff.

I now have a Revit jacket, which has the removable waterproof liner. Liner is a bit of a PITA, but since I use the jacket in summer as well, it's nice to have the option of pulling the liner out and having the jacket breathe more.

I'm tempted to get some spray on waterproofer for the jacket outer, not to make it waterproof as such, but so it doesn't soak up quite so much water in light rain.

[brp]

DriRider - no disappointments with it - well designed and manufactured

[Crim]

I like the look of the DriRider Nordic

I have got this one (or the model before), I agree on the inside waterproof lining - can't really see the sense jackets must become bloody heavy, having said that the DriRider is not really a DriRider (lasts about 20 mins rain)and does get heavy, I have got a real cheap thin rain jacket thing to stick over the top which works a treat and if that rips - who gives a damn

with the cheap rain jacket the system works really well, is really warm and in summer can strip out the thermal lining open all vents and it is not too bad

[Crisis management]

Another vote for Revit, bit more expensive than your budget but Motomail has some good deals.
Yes, it uses a liner but it's warm, waterproof and has good armour built in....crash tested!

[Maha]

Need a new jacket as my 15 year old Clover jacket is nearing the end of it's life.....

What are the recommendations for jackets around the 250 to 400 mark? I have a DriRider Rallycross which I kinda hate and it's cold in the winter.

I like the look of the DriRider Nordic and don't really want the waterproof lining to be removeable.

So what do youse fulla's use?

Heres a few that I am looking at --->>http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149980-Winter-Jackets

I am bit pissed at my $700 Revit jacket that is less than a year old...the ''waterproof'' liner is naff, the hold fast domes are naff, I have had it back once already for repairs, cant be arsed with it anymore. But I will be keeping it as a summer jacket when I purchase a real one.
The RST Jacket in pic #3 is the one that has my interest.

[Oscar]

I'm tempted to get some spray on waterproofer for the jacket outer, not to make it waterproof as such, but so it doesn't soak up quite so much water in light rain.

I did that with the Rev'it spray, and it works well.

[Oscar]

Heres a few that I am looking at --->>http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149980-Winter-Jackets

I am bit pissed at my $700 Revit jacket that is less than a year old...the ''waterproof'' liner is naff, the hold fast domes are naff, I have had it back once already for repairs, cant be arsed with it anymore. But I will be keeping it as a summer jacket when I purchase a real one.
The RST Jacket in pic #3 is the one that has my interest.

I took my Rev'it back with a problem after almost a year (and several hard rides) and they replaced it.

[Devil]

Had a Rev-it 'Sand' jacket. Was a great jacket, but sacrificed itself for the greater good during an off. Did its job.
I now have the Rev-it Defender Goretex jacket and pants and they're fantastic, but pricey. They're treated from the factory so it doesn't get waterlogged like the other models can, goretex liner is independent and removeable.

[chasio]

I have got this one (or the model before), I agree on the inside waterproof lining - can't really see the sense jackets must become bloody heavy, having said that the DriRider is not really a DriRider (lasts about 20 mins rain)and does get heavy, I have got a real cheap thin rain jacket thing to stick over the top which works a treat and if that rips - who gives a damn

with the cheap rain jacket the system works really well, is really warm and in summer can strip out the thermal lining open all vents and it is not too bad

Totally agree with this and will be getting a lightweight waterproof to go over my new jackets (textile and leather).

The outer of my Revit Radar textile does soak up water and get cold, so although the waterproof liner does keep me dry, I use the liner more for warmth. I don't fasten it into the outer, I just put it on before the outer, so it is easier to remove when the weather dries out and/or warms up. But like a few others, I reckon keeping the water off the real jacket is the better way to go.

I looked at them and the Revit lightweight overjackets (http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/category/road%20gear%20%28mens%29/rainwear%20and%20thermals.aspx?page=1&filterby=Revit&sortby=5) are good but are not cheap. Rainbird (http://www.pararubber.co.nz/product.php?id_product=431)gear from Para Rubber could be a good option for less dough, according to this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/148073-Wet-weather-gear-options).

If you can get a decent warmth layer under the RallyCross, a waterproof over the top might work alright..?

[Maha]

I took my Rev'it back with a problem after almost a year (and several hard rides) and they replaced it.

I might give it one more go...see what happens.
I wouldn't want the same Jacket though...once bitten twice bla bla.

I have tried on one of these--->>> http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/rvjkwarp.aspx
Good buying.

[chasio]

I did that with the Rev'it spray, and it works well.

Good idea, I'll try that as well.

Incidentally, I got my Revit leather jacket from fc-moto.de (https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Categories) and saved $300 doing so. They have plenty of brands, as do motoin.de (https://www.motoin.de/). If shopping from Germany, take the 19% sales tax off the list prices and budget 15 euros for delivery.

[Crim]

Heres a few that I am looking at --->>http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149980-Winter-Jackets


Had a look at these and googled RST - they have got a new adventure jacket out that looks the business, http://www.rst-moto.com/rst-adventure-textile-jacket can someone please buy one (and the pants) ride round in all sorts of weather, have a few offs, really test it over the winter (and summer) and come back to me in a week or two please so I can put it on my birthday wish list :woohoo:
Thanks

[Oscar]

I might give it one more go...see what happens.
I wouldn't want the same Jacket though...once bitten twice bla bla.

I have tried on one of these--->>> http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/rvjkwarp.aspx
Good buying.

I bought one of these for the days I ride my bike to the office:
http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/rejamanhatn.aspx

It looks a bit more business like and half the time my adv jacket is filthy...

[bart]

I've had the Dririder Nordic pro for the last 4 years and it's still going strong. I find it excellent. Removable lining and vents for summer, very warm in winter. It'd be the best I've had....but I've had some shit jackets over the years. I'd buy another one.

Right up there with the Swanny and oilskin vest. :shutup:

[clint640]

My Teknic Sprint is fully awesome. Removeable waterproof OUTER. Super cool in mesh mode, mega warm & dry fully assembled, only $400.

Of course they don't make them any more now:facepalm:

If there is anything else similar around now I'd be keen to hear of it as after 5 yrs, 70000km & more than a few crashes I need to develop a succession plan before Rosie's patience in stitching the ratty old thing back together finally runs out :sunny:

Clint

[Rosie]

... I need to develop a succession plan before Rosie's patience in stitching the ratty old thing back together finally runs out :sunny:

Clint

It's gone 35,000km between rebuilds so far :yes: And now we have a spare one for parts.

I no longer have a lot of faith in the abrasion resistance of that outer though :mellow:

[Night Falcon]

I've had the Dririder Nordic pro for the last 4 years and it's still going strong. I find it excellent. Removable lining and vents for summer, very warm in winter. It'd be the best I've had....but I've had some shit jackets over the years. I'd buy another one.

Right up there with the Swanny and oilskin vest. :shutup:

I concur :yes:

[dino3310]

So what do youse fulla's use?

PVC brother PVC :lol:

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww83/dino3310/93XR600r/P4280009.jpg

[vegeman]

Last year when I upgraded to the 690, I used my money from selling my XR to buy some top end gear for once...so when I was in the US on business, I managed to buy a Klim Badlands Pro jacket. This jacket is awesome, and has everything that a jacket could have (except a cheap price $900USD)

I wanted to have a Goretex 3 layer shell, as I've had many outdoor items with other brands or technologies and they all seem to leak or fail after hours and hours in the elements. I also don't like having a removable waterproof layer as that just means that you'll have to carry it somewhere anyway, plus on rides...the weather changes so does this mean that you have to stop and start to put it on when it is raining, or it might rain etc....I think t as well be part of the jacket. All the thermal layers are my responsibility...as the Badlands is a hi-tech shell with molecular armor and it comes with full CE rated pads including chest and back armor - which is rare.

I've been for a couple of rides when its been pissing down, as I wanted to test it out...and so far its doing everything as expected.

Lets see how it goes over the next couple of years...

[NordieBoy]

My current waterproof jacket is a cheap goretex top over a cheap enduro jacket. Layering is king.

The Torpedo7 Enduro Jacket is a prime candidate and the GoreTex jacket (http://www.kiwidisposals.co.nz/wetwear/455-british-gore-tex-smock-used) from KiwiDisposals .

[Eddieb]

Had a look at these and googled RST - they have got a new adventure jacket out that looks the business, http://www.rst-moto.com/rst-adventure-textile-jacket can someone please buy one (and the pants) ride round in all sorts of weather, have a few offs, really test it over the winter (and summer) and come back to me in a week or two please so I can put it on my birthday wish list :woohoo:
Thanks

Thats some nice looking gear.

Klim do some stuff at a reasonable price. https://www.adventuremoto.com.au/index.php?cPath=82_226&osCsid=87e9b13e9585d58f48517374f1073f04

[Devil]

One thing I found good with the rev-it gear having the independent waterproof layer is that following a crash, where the outer layer had been properly torn, the waterproof layer was untouched. Enabling simple repairs to the outer jacket, without losing its water-tightness.

[clint640]

One thing I found good with the rev-it gear having the independent waterproof layer is that following a crash, where the outer layer had been properly torn, the waterproof layer was untouched. Enabling simple repairs to the outer jacket, without losing its water-tightness.

That's why I'm a bit wary of spending $$$ on a goretex jacket. I know I'm going to crash on it.
The beauty of the Teknic Sprint is that the removeable outer has 2 layers - cordura outside then the waterproof fabric. It is (was) the best of both worlds with a durable easily repairable outer but also keeping the main structure of the jacket dry. All this adds a little bulk when fully assembled
but bulk = warmth.

Cheers
Clint

[Gremlin]

Layering is certainly the key, also depends how much you want the jacket to do.

I have a Rukka Armas suit, but it falls into the "money is no problem" category, being some of the very best in the world. It is waterproof on the outside, ridden in weather that others were reporting 2 degrees (didn't have my own gauge), with no heated grips, and just a t-shirt and thermal top underneath, and was a little chilly. However, I wouldn't wear it for adventure riding, and it's not flexible enough for warmer weather.

I have a Rev'it Suit for that, combo of Off-Track Jacket and Sand pants. Not nearly as good in cold as the Rukka, but I can also remove the liners and I've ridden in 50 degree weather. I'd just die in the Rukka. To make the Rev'it all seasons, I simply throw a cheap rain jacket over the top, something like the DriRider Thunderwear stuff, normally about $50-100, but easy to replace as they wear out. For cold weather I put a heated vest underneath and then it doesn't really matter how cold it's going to get... roads covered in ice will be stopping me first.

That's all country stuff, where it's hours on end of riding...

For commuting I have a $200-$300 jacket I got from 'Treads, calls itself Neo on a small tag... who knows. Chuck a few layers underneath, it doesn't get that cold, more waterproof than the one Rjays that had done some 5 years. Once it leaks badly, I'll get another Neo type jacket...

[Devil]

That's why I'm a bit wary of spending $$$ on a goretex jacket. I know I'm going to crash on it.
The beauty of the Teknic Sprint is that the removeable outer has 2 layers - cordura outside then the waterproof fabric. It is (was) the best of both worlds with a durable easily repairable outer but also keeping the main structure of the jacket dry. All this adds a little bulk when fully assembled
but bulk = warmth.

Cheers
Clint
FYI you can get the goretex ones in two configs. Either as the independent layer (looks just like the normal rev-it waterproof liner), and the integrated one (which you'd be wary of - me too).
The one I have (Rev-it Defender) is the independent one. The other recent rev-it model "Legacy" has the integrated one.

[That looks like fun]

Riding to the KCAR ride in my Spidi Jacket and Revit pants it pissed down :scooter:
And I got wet :(
Very wet :mad:

Dont know if this contributes to this thread but I just felt like sharing that :clap:



PVC may not be so bad after all :headbang:

[Taz]

I bought a Neo Mugello jacket from drury tyres ($200) and tried it out yesterday on a short 600+ km trip to the king country and back via mangakino and okoroire, te aroha etc so Cary could buy a birthday pressie for his lady. In the morning chill and drizzle I only had a thermal top and t shirt and I stayed toasty. At piopio I put a sweatshirt on also. Was an awesome trip. Left at 10am and was home by 8pm. Will post some pics up later. Thanks all.

[Cary]

Riding to the KCAR ride in my Spidi Jacket and Revit pants it pissed down :scooter:
And I got wet :(
Very wet :mad:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/jeb441/P4290040-1.jpg

[Night Falcon]

I bought a Neo Mugello jacket from drury tyres ($200) and tried it out yesterday on a short 600+ km trip to the king country and back via mangakino and okoroire, te aroha etc so Cary could buy a birthday pressie for his lady. In the morning chill and drizzle I only had a thermal top and t shirt and I stayed toasty. At piopio I put a sweatshirt on also. Was an awesome trip. Left at 10am and was home by 8pm. Will post some pics up later. Thanks all.

I had one of those jackets. Very warm but leaked badly through the sleeves in any decent rain. Also melted instantainously when sliding down sealed road :facepalm:

[Taz]

As I always wear a rain jacket over my jacket (when it's raining) and very very few motorcycles are waterproof anyway I think it'll be ok, oh and I don't crash :cool:. It is very comfortable and warm and that's the main thing for me. Oh and it was cheap. 15 years ago my Clover jacket cost me $700 odd dollars.

[That looks like fun]

Now dont you be putting dem cone things on me heed mon, dem tings is dangerous ya knoww :doobey:

[Maha]

I took my Rev'it back with a problem after almost a year (and several hard rides) and they replaced it.

Took the Ignition Jacket back..they (Motomail) got it sorted.
Revit replaced to w/p liner completely and fixed both cuff domes..
Jacket sent back here at not cost to me.
I have bought a new Winter jacket so the Igntion is now just for summer conditions..
Would I trust it to do its job during crap weather?...no.
All 'n all I am pretty pleased with the result.

[CookMySock]

DriRider - no disappointments with it - well designed and manufacturedI don't intend to be confrontational, but I have owned plenty of dririder stuff, and I am completely finished with that brand.

I've got an MBW jacket and its light years ahead of the dririder in all respects, and after a couple years riding with it (a lot!) there is still nothing wrong with it, whereas the dririder jacket was completely poked after one year.

[Eddieb]

Had a look at these and googled RST - they have got a new adventure jacket out that looks the business, http://www.rst-moto.com/rst-adventure-textile-jacket can someone please buy one (and the pants) ride round in all sorts of weather, have a few offs, really test it over the winter (and summer) and come back to me in a week or two please so I can put it on my birthday wish list :woohoo:
Thanks

Minor thread dredge, I was in TSS in Lower Hutt today and they now stock this RST gear. It looks pretty good.

[dino3310]

my yellow pvc still going strong

[Oscar]

my yellow pvc still going strong

MOW surplus?

[vegeman]

Minor thread dredge, I was in TSS in Lower Hutt today and they now stock this RST gear. It looks pretty good.

Did you see any prices ? - just curious....

I get the marketing idea of buying the jacket that has a zip in quilted jacket and then another waterproof layer (which is just another jacket) but I just don't like them. I'm sure that each time you go riding, you'll ahve to think about taking the extra 2 layers or stashing them somewhere. Then it rains, and you think...should I stop "nah it won't last long"...then you get soaked t the bone. Then from that learning...the next 17 times...you ride and stop everytime you feel rain, to put on the layer...and guarantee the rain will 'always stop'

Plus if I am going to wear other jackets, I'll just wear whatever jacket I want underneath the primary shell...so as when I take off the outer shell, the jacket will be made to be worn

just my 2c

[Rosie]

Did you see any prices ? - just curious....

I get the marketing idea of buying the jacket that has a zip in quilted jacket and then another waterproof layer (which is just another jacket) but I just don't like them. I'm sure that each time you go riding, you'll ahve to think about taking the extra 2 layers or stashing them somewhere. Then it rains, and you think...should I stop "nah it won't last long"...then you get soaked t the bone. Then from that learning...the next 17 times...you ride and stop everytime you feel rain, to put on the layer...and guarantee the rain will 'always stop'

Plus if I am going to wear other jackets, I'll just wear whatever jacket I want underneath the primary shell...so as when I take off the outer shell, the jacket will be made to be worn

just my 2c

From my experience - you don't end up rearranging the layers in the jacket all that often. At the start of winter, all the layers go in, and stay in. At the end of winter, the thermal liner comes out, and stays out. The waterproof liner stays in unless it's really hot, then it comes out for the day. Finding somewhere to stash it is no worse than finding somewhere to stash your jersey. I would prefer a jacket like Clint's where the removable waterproof layer is on the outside, but these seem to be pretty rare.

If you are riding in diverse conditions (potential rain, mix of highway and off road riding etc), you are going to need a diverse range of gear with you - whether you have a multi-layer jacket; or something like armour, an enduro jacket and a rainsuit, you are going to need to add/remove stuff as you go.

[Eddieb]

Did you see any prices ? - just curious....

I get the marketing idea of buying the jacket that has a zip in quilted jacket and then another waterproof layer (which is just another jacket) but I just don't like them. I'm sure that each time you go riding, you'll ahve to think about taking the extra 2 layers or stashing them somewhere. Then it rains, and you think...should I stop "nah it won't last long"...then you get soaked t the bone. Then from that learning...the next 17 times...you ride and stop everytime you feel rain, to put on the layer...and guarantee the rain will 'always stop'

Plus if I am going to wear other jackets, I'll just wear whatever jacket I want underneath the primary shell...so as when I take off the outer shell, the jacket will be made to be worn

just my 2c

The jacket was $420, I didn't look at the pants price.

I'm not big on the idea of a seperate inner waterproof layer either. The whole jacket gets soaked, heavy and cold and nothing in the pockets keeps dry. I use a seperate outer waterproof layer if required.

[Box'a'bits]

Had a look at these and googled RST - they have got a new adventure jacket out that looks the business, http://www.rst-moto.com/rst-adventure-textile-jacket can someone please buy one (and the pants) ride round in all sorts of weather, have a few offs, really test it over the winter (and summer) and come back to me in a week or two please so I can put it on my birthday wish list :woohoo: Thanks

Minor thread dredge. Just a got an RST Adventure Pro Series Jacket, given my Spidi has just celebrated its 15th Birthday. Didn't get the pants - they didn't have my size. Bought for $399 from TSS Red Baron, after a minor haggle - the $399 price applies at Moto-One & NWA websites, so...Nationwide is only bringing in the Gunmetal Jacket & Pants, so colour selection is limited unless you want to import. I've actually bought this mainly for the venting, rather than winter riding comfort...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pgYXGs8VY6A/UOEcgXvotrI/AAAAAAAAM3Y/vAh3HtmrN28/s800/RST-Jacket-Adventure-WP-Black-SLEEVE-580.jpg

From my perspective, this is a cheaper version of the Rev'it Sand Jacket, with a few minor tweaks.

Here's the RST YouTube Blurb

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/237vfZR6V58" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

I'll do a further write up once I have had a chance to ride with this..

[Waipukbiker]

Totally agree with those that mentioned a lightweight,showerproof,breathable windproof overjacket, (scrunched up, you can just about stuff them in your pocket)
Elastic cuffs and closes right up under your chin over a balaclava. I wore one on the "long way around" and even though it was -5 when we left and there was still heavy frost in the shade at 3pm, It worked a treat, I never got cold and the others on that ride that used them were singing there praises. A good set of thermals against your skin to keep the generated body heat against the body and something totally wind proof on the outside that can be sealed.
2 or 3 layers in between to allow for temp control.
Ive spent 6 months in Antarctica including riding snowmobiles in conditions as low as -30 so ive learnt the hard way about keeping warm.

Cheers

[Box'a'bits]

I have Rev'it overjacket & overtrousers which I have used for some time. I still intend to use that system rather than the zip in waterproof lining. I never really used the quilted lining on the Spidi jacket, & probably won't on the new one.

[Gremlin]

Often when it rains in NZ it's not actually cold (barring winter). Especially in summer, we still get rain and it's 20+ degrees. Other countries, when it rains it gets cold, so it's a bit easier and logical. Sometimes I don't bother whe it's warm and simply get wet then dry out as it happens quick enough anyway.

Otherwise, if you have a waterproof liner in the jacket (which won't stop the jacket absorbing water) plus a waterproof jacket on the outside, you're going to bake.

Another argument for using a waterproof over jacket, and then I've just had the mesh outer of the main jacket on underneath (plus shirt etc).

[unstuck]

Often when it rains in NZ it's not actually cold (barring winter). Especially in summer, we still get rain and it's 20+ degrees. Other countries, when it rains it gets cold, so it's a bit easier and logical. Sometimes I don't bother whe it's warm and simply get wet then dry out as it happens quick enough anyway.

Otherwise, if you have a waterproof liner in the jacket (which won't stop the jacket absorbing water) plus a waterproof jacket on the outside, you're going to bake.

Another argument for using a waterproof over jacket, and then I've just had the mesh outer of the main jacket on underneath (plus shirt etc).

Can get bloody cold down this way when it rains.:cold:

[Gremlin]

Can get bloody cold down this way when it rains.:cold:
That's fine and easy... layer up.

When it's warm you want to try and breathe and stay cool, but stay dry... gets VERY difficult...

[FJRider]

Can get bloody cold down this way when it rains.:cold:

It doesn't rain here ... but it still gets bloody cold ..

[Waihou Thumper]

Wet weather sailing gear I reckon could be the best option out there....
After all, sailors have more adverse conditions to combat than us ADV riding?
Looking at options and prices, I see these are far cheaper and offer bib options and overalls, which makes it easier to get into and out off and take a piss...:)
Tramping gear it too expensive, label it Goretex or some other ex and add $600 to the price....
I see a lot of options out there from Chandlers and the like....:) Colours to match your bike as well...:facepalm:

[Night Falcon]

Wet weather sailing gear I reckon could be the best option out there....
After all, sailors have more adverse conditions to combat than us ADV riding?
Looking at options and prices, I see these are far cheaper and offer bib options and overalls, which makes it easier to get into and out off and take a piss...:)
Tramping gear it too expensive, label it Goretex or some other ex and add $600 to the price....
I see a lot of options out there from Chandlers and the like....:) Colours to match your bike as well...:facepalm:

This is good information but how do you get those funny triangle shaped yellow hats to stay on ya helmet? :shifty:

[Waihou Thumper]

This is good information but how do you get those funny triangle shaped yellow hats to stay on ya helmet? :shifty:

Just think what it would be like downwind? Set the spinnaker and you can keep up with Bart...:)

[Night Falcon]

Just think what it would be like downwind? Set the spinnaker and you can keep up with Bart...:)

need a jet boat for that my friend...that boy is way too ffffffffffffffffffast

[NordieBoy]

I've got fishing boat deck hand PVC bib overalls.
Very robust, but heavy.

[dino3310]

im still useing my $14 warehuse yellow pvc's after 2 years they still going mint.... trick is to buy larger sizes for airflow then ya dont sweat

[Night Falcon]

im still useing my $14 warehuse yellow pvc's after 2 years they still going mint.... trick is to buy larger sizes for airflow then ya dont sweat

I've got a set of those that I always take with me on trips, luckily never had to get them out of the painers....yet:corn:

[dino3310]

ya almost need a set a panniers just to cart them :lol:

[Waihou Thumper]

ya almost need a set a panniers just to cart them :lol:

Yep, I bought some from the Red Shed before Christmas. I got them home unpacked, tried them on and realised their weight!:gob: Holy crap these guys are heavy....
I managed to pack them back up almost the same and they were returned. This is why I sort of resurrected this thread. I am on the hunt :) Flouro, wet weather, lightweight and waterproof. Just some of the requirements....

[Night Falcon]

Yep, I bought some from the Red Shed before Christmas. I got them home unpacked, tried them on and realised their weight!:gob: Holy crap these guys are heavy....
I managed to pack them back up almost the same and they were returned. This is why I sort of resurrected this thread. I am on the hunt :) Flouro, wet weather, lightweight and waterproof. Just some of the requirements....



roll of glad wrap over ya fluro riding vest :corn:

[george formby]

Next time your passing a farm shop, RD1, Wrightsons or some such, pop in for a fossick. They often sell a range of outdoor / waterproof gear, the stand will be between the 1/2 tonne sacks of dog biscuits & #8 wire.