Riding the ZX-7R

[R6_kid]

okay, went down to tauranga and took this beast for a spin. And i can say without a shread of hesitation that it made me shit my pants.

It may not seem like much to all you 600 and 1000 riders out there but jumping from a 250 with 40hp to a 120hp Race Spec bike is quite an experience.

The fact that it did 160 in 2nd without straining was enough to put me in my place, i took it through a few twisties but was having trouble judging speeds etc so just took it easy.

Compared to the GSXR750 (94) i rode last weekend it pulled a lot harder and was also considerably easier to handle at all speeds.

So the final decision is that i will be finding an intermediate bike for the mean time. Probably a ZXR400 or similar or possibly a 600 Tourer like the GSF or hornet.

I do still really love the bike for its style and am in awe of its power. For the better of my own life i think its best to wait a bit longer and get some more experience stepping up through the power, personally a 3x jump in power is a bit much for me. To all you guys n girls riding the 600/750/1000+cc road/race bikes i salute you... that shit aint easy :Punk:

[Keystone19]

I guess that solves the bank loan problem temporarily then!!

Good on ya Gareth_D!

[R6_kid]

yeah it does a bit, im still keen for a bigger/faster sport bike, but not a two stroker so it looks like i'll have to get my full and find something a bit higher cc'd. It was really quite an eye opener and im glad i got the chance to check it out instead of just handing over the cash and then finding out...

also it wasnt quite so fun as riding the ZXR250, probably coz i was worried about stiffing it into a corner or something like that... not my bike... YET :devil2:

[crashe]

Good on you for making the right decision to wait, after finding out whether or not it was the right type of bike for you...

You recognised that the power of the bike was too much for you at this moment in time for you.

Well done lad.

[R6_kid]

i will tame it in a year or two, but i'll need a bit more cash than just the purchase price as i can imagine i'll spend a lot of time at pukekohe honing my cornering etc on it, the road didnt feel like the right place to be letting it loose :Punk:

[Keystone19]

So what are you going to look at next?

[SixPackBack]

You are a man already.... big respect, big bike's are not toys, but razor edged tools.....and they will snap your fucken head off, Amy's phone number next time i see you !

[justsomeguy]

Hey mate,

Sorry I couldn't come, brake pads are worn down to nothing at the front.

Now when you say, "And i can say without a shread of hesitation that it made me shit my pants."

Could you elaborate on that statement a bit- with an educational reply. You are probably along with Dveus one of the fastest 250 riders with a decent amount of experience and you believe you will better of with a 400 or 600 tourer ......

A lot of people here go on about it's all about self control, blah, blah....

So give us a bit more feedback - here we have you (who I know can ride) who says naaa I need a 4hundy or 600 tourer....and the others who say just buy a 600...... so ??????

And by the way today at the BRONZ course there was this guy (old fella 45-50yr old) who's only been riding for a year, did his learning on a Virago 250 and bought a Blackbird 1100 as his next bike - AND he was as comfortable on it as some of the other big bike riders with years of experience......

[Keystone19]

Amy's phone number next time i see you !

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :killingme

[R6_kid]

not totally sure yet. Im hoping to get hold of a top end 400, probably not a VFR though, otherwise i might look at a hornet type bike such as the GSF600 bandit on trademe atm... basically like the honda hornet but by suzuki.

[justsomeguy]

Ever thought of an SV650S??

[SixPackBack]

Hey mate,

Sorry I couldn't come, brake pads are worn down to nothing at the front.

Now when you say, "And i can say without a shread of hesitation that it made me shit my pants."

Could you elaborate on that statement a bit- with an educational reply. You are probably along with Dveus one of the fastest 250 riders with a decent amount of experience and you believe you will better of with a 400 or 600 tourer ......

A lot of people here go on about it's all about self control, blah, blah....

So give us a bit more feedback - here we have you (who I know can ride) who says naaa I need a 4hundy or 600 tourer....and the others who say just buy a 600...... so ??????

And by the way today at the BRONZ course there was this guy (old fella 45-50yr old) who's only been riding for a year, did his learning on a Virago 250 and bought a Blackbird 1100 as his next bike - AND he was as comfortable on it as some of the other big bike riders with years of experience......

Yes but he was OLD ,MATURE......testosterone has seeped from his creaking bones, he is now filled with self preservation and self control.

A joke is perhaps the most suitable form of explanation:
[young bull to old bull] look at that paddock of heifers lets rush down there and fuck one
[old bull to young bull] no! lets walk down there and fuck the lot!

do you understand grasshopper?

[justsomeguy]

Yes but he was OLD ,MATURE......testosterone has seeped from his creaking bones, he is now filled with self preservation and self control.

A joke is perhaps the most suitable form of explanation:
[young bull to old bull] look at that paddock of heifers lets rush down there and fuck one
[old bull to young bull] no! lets walk down there and fuck the lot!

do you understand grasshopper?

Yaa yaa grandpaa:whistle: .....

[R6_kid]

You are probably along with Dveus one of the fastest 250 riders with a decent amount of experience and you believe you will better of with a 400 or 600 tourer ......

A lot of people here go on about it's all about self control, blah, blah....

So give us a bit more feedback - here we have you (who I know can ride) who says naaa I need a 4hundy or 600 tourer....and the others who say just buy a 600...... so ??????


ermmm, where to begin. It is kind of hard to explain. You have to remember that the bike weighs in at 235 and puts out 120+hp. When i left the guys house and was just riding in the residentials it was fine, and cruising it was fine, but as soon as i put the pace on it didnt feel quite so comfy... possibly because i take a while to get tuned into bikes properly (with the exception of the CBR/ZXR) Possibly if i had taken it for a 100km ride or something then i would have liked it more, been more relaxed, but at first feel it does seem like a big jump.

Also from what i have seen anyway the younger members i regard as fast riders (TS, MR, KK, Affman etc) stepped from 250s to 400s and felt comfortable their before stepping up to the 600's with the exception of MR perhaps (im not sure of his story).

Way i see it i would rather take it a step at a time. All the bike shop ppl have said about the jumps they have taken... and as i am sometimes a slow learner i will benefit more from incremental (sp) steps than just going "oh yeah baby give me a 750 homologation race bike anyday" - i like riding, i really enjoy it, but i cant if im dead :Punk:

as for the old guy on the BRONZ course.... the blackbird is a sports tourer like the ZZR1200 and busa, yes they are fast when you want them to be, but they are also able to used purely for cruising too, im sure he aint a knee down rider...

:ride: :ride: :ride:

[R6_kid]

Amy's phone number next time i see you !

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEET :Punk:

oh yeah, love the joke too... dis geezer is a funny one innit.

[R6_kid]

Ever thought of an SV650S??

i'm looking to test ride one at some stage, havent been a fan of the V twins, i tried the duc 400 and didnt like it much, but you never know i spose... get my full and the world is my highway.....errr....oyster.... :whocares:

[SixPackBack]

Mate he had worn his shoulder pads out on the runway, thats how far he was leaning......oohh and Amy's number.......0800 hearthat *yes gareth my FUCKEN chainsaw*

[R6_kid]

lol, someone should have told him to get off the ground and get on his bike then....

my vespa is louder than you chainsaw... oh and see you flamewarrior nomination :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[justsomeguy]

Also from what i have seen anyway the younger members i regard as fast riders (TS, MR, KK, Affman etc) stepped from 250s to 400s and felt comfortable their before stepping up to the 600's with the exception of MR perhaps (im not sure of his story).




MR had 3 ZXR400's over time......



Way i see it i would rather take it a step at a time. All the bike shop ppl have said about the jumps they have taken... and as i am sometimes a slow learner i will benefit more from incremental (sp) steps than just going "oh yeah baby give me a 750 homologation race bike anyday" - i like riding, i really enjoy it, but i cant if im dead :Punk:



See your point, I was pretty keen on a ZXR400 until the Hyosung/SV caught my eye.... the only probs with 400's are they are a bitch to sell, as I've seen a few on sale for months. There are enough guys who know their stuff (decades of serious biking) who recommend both getting a 400 and an equal number who say get a 600.....




as for the old guy on the BRONZ course.... the blackbird is a sports tourer like the ZZR1200 and busa, yes they are fast when you want them to be, but they are also able to used purely for cruising too, im sure he aint a knee down rider...

:ride: :ride: :ride:

No he was not a knee down guy - 2inch pukpuk strips...

I would like a SV/Hyosung - just like I'd like an agusta.... but honestly at $10k:no:

In reality I can't see myself looking past a ZseXR 400. (Recommended Bike by Frosty/MR).

Take one for a ride they are reallllllllllyyyy nice (well suited me at least in terms of ergonomics) - should suit you too I guess maybe if you lowered the pegs - maybe, as you're on the tall side.

[SPman]

there was this guy (old fella 45-50yr old)
W T F you mean old! Thats not old - only a young whippersnapper
You want old.....look at Frosty! :rofl:

[justsomeguy]

W T F you mean old! Thats not old - only a young whippersnapper
You want old.....look at Frosty! :rofl:

Ya but baby bikie is more mature than His Lordship......

This geeza had a 50yr old attitude too......

[Keystone19]

This geeza had a 50yr old attitude too......

He only had an attitude 'cause he thought you were eyeing up his daughter.... :rofl: :rofl:

[SixPackBack]

Ya but baby bikie is more mature than His Lordship......

This geeza had a 50yr old attitude too......

Young wife :rofl: :rofl:

[Keystone19]

Young wife :rofl: :rofl:

Oh my God, I thought that was his daughter...

[SixPackBack]

Oh my God, I thought that was his daughter...

no, no, no that was ONE of his wifes .......told me he was a mormon, he also had more than one bike [dirty old slapper!] :rofl:

[justsomeguy]

He only had an attitude 'cause he thought you were eyeing up his daughter.... :rofl: :rofl:

Yeeeeshhhh :puke:

I don't do kids.......and even if she was 18+ she looked 15- so either way:nono:

and I was oogling his bike wayyy more....

Hehehehehehe --- Hey Sixpack - remember the conversation with Peggy about WINJA??

Does he have a sista?
No he has a K3 1000 :rofl:

[R6_kid]

oh gawd you people... lucky they dont hear what me and you say to each other aye keystone :whistle:

me is wanting that black 400 so baaaaaaaad. Thats what im after in all honesty.

[SixPackBack]

Yeeeeshhhh :puke:

I don't do kids.......and even if she was 18+ she looked 15- so either way:nono:

and I was oogling his bike wayyy more....

Hehehehehehe --- Hey Sixpack - remember the conversation with Peggy about WINJA??

Does he have a sista?
No he has a K3 1000 :rofl:

He got chickens but *mmmmmm chickens*

[R6_kid]

oh yeah, sixpack, if i remember correctly (keystone back me here), you were the one trying to get my opinion of amy and asking if i'd like to go out with her etc... remember i thought it was you with long hair :rofl:

[Keystone19]

[QUOTE=gareth_d]oh gawd you people... lucky they dont hear what me and you say to each other aye keystone :whistle:
QUOTE]

Shh, Gareth, you promised you wouldn't tell...

Oh, how old did you say you were?

[Keystone19]

oh yeah, sixpack, if i remember correctly (keystone back me here), you were the one trying to get my opinion of amy and asking if i'd like to go out with her etc... remember i thought it was you with long hair :rofl:

Umm, actually, I can't remember that part... :devil2:

[justsomeguy]

me is wanting that black 400 so baaaaaaaad. Thats what im after in all honesty.

Phuk off - that's my dream bike

[John]

Can you all just feel the child peedling in here :| sickning.

I own all pre 96 kawasakis so you all phark off aye! and where the hells that damn sheep I need some stress relief...

[Waylander]

Can you all just feel the child peedling in here :| sickning.

I own all pre 96 kawasakis so you all phark off aye! and where the hells that damn sheep I need some stress relief...
That's rich comming from you boy...:motu::rofl:


And what's all this about AMy and her 50y/o husband? What did I miss?

[justsomeguy]

I own all pre 96 kawasakis so you all phark off aye! and where the hells that damn sheep I need some stress relief...

And you can keep your vintage issues.....:weird:

I'm after a 98+ ZXR400:Punk:

[FROSTY]

W T F you mean old! Thats not old - only a young whippersnapper
You want old.....look at Frosty! :rofl:
OYYYY----- I heard that
I may be old but I still show you what the back of a bike looks like.
Ohh --quiet romour. There just might be a road/race SV650 coming up for sale soon -full road and race kit included --but shhh dont tell anyone

[justsomeguy]

And what's all this about AMy and her 50y/o husband? What did I miss?

Nothing, go back to sleep.

[justsomeguy]

Ohh --quiet romour. There just might be a road/race SV650 coming up for sale soon -full road and race kit included --but shhh dont tell anyone

You farkers better have something decent for sale in 9months time. :bash: I'm still kicking myself for letting that red and black one slip away.

[Waylander]

Nothing, go back to sleep.
Sleep my arse, just got back from takin the bike for a spin. Rain be damned. Just for that I'm gonna go read your ride right ride safe thread see if there is anything there.

[SPman]

. . . he also had more than one bike [dirty old slapper!] :rofl:
What - a Kwaka 500 triple!

[FROSTY]

Ya but baby bikie is more mature than His Lordship......

This geeza had a 50yr old attitude too......
and as for you--you will keep my son ohh yea you will keep

[FROSTY]

You farkers better have something decent for sale in 9months time. :bash: I'm still kicking myself for letting that red and black one slip away.
some old joker bought it for-fucken 3k -you dumbn bugger

[justsomeguy]

some old joker bought it for-fucken 3k -you dumbn bugger

I hope this old bugger is someone you can get in touch with in 9 months time......

and I hope it isn't an F3 wreck by then......

[John]

And you can keep your vintage issues.....:weird:

I'm after a 98+ ZXR400:Punk:
show some respect you &#$#.

The older ones were the real bikes, raw hatefull power...
http://www.moto-casse.com/images/pieces/ZX9R-95.jpg

[FROSTY]

I hope this old bugger is someone you can get in touch with in 9 months time......

and I hope it isn't an F3 wreck by then......
no seriously--I saw it at manfeild _I alll but hauled the bloke off of the bike -he was riding so sloooow.

[justsomeguy]

no seriously--I saw it at manfeild _I alll but hauled the bloke off of the bike -he was riding so sloooow.

OK, did you get to ride it?? Show him how it's done??:Punk: :devil2:

[FROSTY]

nope i lapped him--twice on the ol xj

[justsomeguy]

nope i lapped him--twice on the ol xj

hmmm.....

Looks like I will have to find another bike.....

Hey - how much faster or better handling is ol 911 compared to mella yella...

And if they were both stock (or you were allowed MINOR-MINOR modifications)

which would you pick - ZXR or SV?

[Zapf]

ermmm, where to begin. It is kind of hard to explain. You have to remember that the bike weighs in at 235 and puts out 120+hp. When i left the guys house and was just riding in the residentials it was fine, and cruising it was fine, but as soon as i put the pace on it didnt feel quite so comfy... possibly because i take a while to get tuned into bikes properly (with the exception of the CBR/ZXR) Possibly if i had taken it for a 100km ride or something then i would have liked it more, been more relaxed, but at first feel it does seem like a big jump.

Also from what i have seen anyway the younger members i regard as fast riders (TS, MR, KK, Affman etc) stepped from 250s to 400s and felt comfortable their before stepping up to the 600's with the exception of MR perhaps (im not sure of his story).

Way i see it i would rather take it a step at a time. All the bike shop ppl have said about the jumps they have taken... and as i am sometimes a slow learner i will benefit more from incremental (sp) steps than just going "oh yeah baby give me a 750 homologation race bike anyday" - i like riding, i really enjoy it, but i cant if im dead :Punk:

as for the old guy on the BRONZ course.... the blackbird is a sports tourer like the ZZR1200 and busa, yes they are fast when you want them to be, but they are also able to used purely for cruising too, im sure he aint a knee down rider...

:ride: :ride: :ride:

its like with my 750.... on my 250's / 400 / SV650... you can aim the bike and then wait for it to get there.... but the 750 is "supposed" to have the same power as the SV650 up to 7'000rpm.... however it is so much faster in getting there (revs out faster)... its not funny. Its more like aim, gas it and then your mind catchs up.... hence there is lots of learning / adjustments for me... misjudgeing the speed is probly one reason that I send the 750 down the road after owning it for 3 weeks.

Also the riding techniques are quite different than the SV.... I think its from the bike setup and twin / multi thing.... (comments welcome)

[750Y]

respect bro! congrats on making a wise choice. it's a bigger man that will put his brain before his ego. so... i take it that someone still has a ZX7r for sale at $5.5k? what was the bike like?
edit: is it the 98 on trademe fo $6k buy now? how bad is the bin damage?
any other observations about the overall state of it?

[sAsLEX]

Im hoping to get hold of a top end 400, probably not a VFR though as I am too ghey to own one


ahhh the truth comes out, NC30s to good for you!

[mikey]

okay, went down to tauranga and took this beast for a spin. And i can say without a shread of hesitation that it made me shit my pants.

It may not seem like much to all you 600 and 1000 riders out there but jumping from a 250 with 40hp to a 120hp Race Spec bike is quite an experience.

The fact that it did 160 in 2nd without straining was enough to put me in my place, i took it through a few twisties but was having trouble judging speeds etc so just took it easy.

Compared to the GSXR750 (94) i rode last weekend it pulled a lot harder and was also considerably easier to handle at all speeds.

So the final decision is that i will be finding an intermediate bike for the mean time. Probably a ZXR400 or similar or possibly a 600 Tourer like the GSF or hornet.

I do still really love the bike for its style and am in awe of its power. For the better of my own life i think its best to wait a bit longer and get some more experience stepping up through the power, personally a 3x jump in power is a bit much for me. To all you guys n girls riding the 600/750/1000+cc road/race bikes i salute you... that shit aint easy :Punk:

PUSSYYYYYYYYYYY!

what if the sun wsucked the moon out of orbit an into the earth tomorrow an everyone died, would you be happy with your decision?>

[R6_kid]

bike is still for sale, he wants 6k... all cracks have been repaired but there is still some minor scratching etc, not as tidy as i was expecting.. smoked a bit on warmup but then cleared out and no probs when riding it.

Mikey you fuck, get a real bike.... i bet if you throttled this beast it would give you a fright too. Least im not compensating like you. :devil2:

Hey alex, would love a VFR... i like them a lot, just my friend is a mechanic and he hates them and charges accordingly.

[sAsLEX]

Hey alex, would love a VFR... i like them a lot, just my friend is a mechanic and he hates them and charges accordingly.

just go to the kk school of gargreing and do most of the work yourself, i got a haynes manual and tat goes step by step through most things

[justsomeguy]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=32538766&key=27336049

[Motoracer]

That is quite a huge step and good on you for being mature enough to know that it is too much bike after comming straight from a 250 and be able to admit it. Good on ya man!

Good luck with finding a ZXR400 or another 600.

[sAsLEX]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=32538766&key=27336049


well look at that, better snap it up quick before KK gets his mitts on it

[R6_kid]

seen it, might get it. Dads keen but sceptical about it...

[Waylander]

If you go for it becarefull with getting it VINed. Lot of work that. Also it not having one already could be dodgy but just as lilely not. Certainly looks nice.

[R6_kid]

dont you know my story? my ZXR arrived in boxes... lapsed rego. I've done it all before... i know what they look for.

BTW my bike is actually illegal and shouldnt have passed the vin... i did it with no passenger pegs and also the steering stopper has broken off.

[Waylander]

dont you know my story? my ZXR arrived in boxes... lapsed rego. I've done it all before... i know what they look for.

BTW my bike is actually illegal and shouldnt have passed the vin... i did it with no passenger pegs and also the steering stopper has broken off.

So has my stopper, what's your point?:devil2: lol Won't take much to put one back on just weld a piece of steel to the back of the neck. Might be harder on yours though. Anyway enjoy the bike shopping.

[JohnBoy]

VFR's are pretty cool and would be a good stepping stone to a bigger bike. to me they felt like a 250 with a bit more stomp.
if i were you just make sure that the ignition is mint, ask the owner when it was last changed or if he has another... they have a tendancey to brake every couple of years, depending on how many long trips you do.

Good luck, keep us all posted! :ride:

[2_SL0]

respect bro! congrats on making a wise choice. it's a bigger man that will put his brain before his ego. so... i take it that someone still has a ZX7r for sale at $5.5k? what was the bike like?
edit: is it the 98 on trademe fo $6k buy now? how bad is the bin damage?
any other observations about the overall state of it?

Ahhhmmm are you showing interest???

[loosebruce]

I can respect your decison Gareth, myself i brought my first TL1000S one week after getting my restricted, no one would let me test ride anything but i had some cash, i knew i wanted the TL as it was a hooligan bike and the noise had me sold. I just took it easy myself and learned as i went, the torque on twins make them easy to get on with for beginer riders (to larger bikes) hence why i reckon an SV650 would be a great step to take, torque is your firend.

[750Y]

Ahhhmmm are you showing interest???

Well my ears pricked up when i heard about the ZX7R(my all-time favourite) & my desire gland went into overdrive, but i think i am just being greedy & impulsive. I guess I'm still struggling a little with being bikeless. I haven't been able to bring myself to sell my leathers yet...