Bucket riders engineering psyche

[codgyoleracer]

So where do you fit into the scheme of things ?

[Pumba]

New Zealand's premier motorcycle racing class:first:

[koba]

So where do you fit into the scheme of things ?

Cool idea for a poll.

[koba]

So where do you fit into the scheme of things ?

I see you selected "I have crashed once due to my engineering skills".

Hamish too.

Do tell.

Mine was when I used a cheap and nasty front brake lever that had a dodgy surface on the cam bit that pushes the cylinder in.
It was buttersoft alloy and kept garking up, rather than throw it away I kept filing it flat.
After a few close calls I thought, "Yeah, Nah, this is dodgy"; so I replaced it.

I should have chucked it in the scrap bin rather than back in the spares box though, in a rushed crash repair moment I accidentally used it again.
Dropping the bike with a locked front wheel at the end of the pit exit at Manfield was embarrassing but at least it wasn't too far to walk.

[codgyoleracer]

I see you selected "I have crashed once due to my engineering skills".

Hamish too.

Do tell.

Mine was when I used a cheap and nasty front brake lever that had a dodgy surface on the cam bit that pushes the cylinder in.
It was buttersoft alloy and kept garking up, rather than throw it away I kept filing it flat.
After a few close calls I thought, "Yeah, Nah, this is dodgy"; so I replaced it.

I should have chucked it in the scrap bin rather than back in the spares box though, in a rushed crash repair moment I accidentally used it again.
Dropping the bike with a locked front wheel at the end of the pit exit at Manfield was embarrassing but at least it wasn't too far to walk.


Re-cycling a handlebar wasnt a bright idea either (especially when arriving at the end of Pukekohe's main straight.......)

[hmurphy]

My bike (as hideous as it is) is actually not too bad engineering wise. It's fairly decent now besides a few basic maintenance things (loose un-oiled chain etc). However with my old frame (the FXR) there was a LOT wrong with it. I got away with a lot until I finally got caught out. I knew one of my rear wheel bearings was very dodgy but I didn't replace it. It seized and locked the rear wheel, I highsided and snapped my bloody wrist. I deserved it but it sucked.

It took me a few weeks to work out the issue because the wheel could still roll after the crash but it's not a corner where you ever even get close to sliding (let alone crashing!) - it's a full pin corner even in the wet! But I [one handedly] took the rear wheel off and out crumbled a bearing with about 3 or 4 balls missing already. I originally thought the footpeg must have caught on the curb and grabbed instead of slid. 3 months later and on lap 2 of being back at the track I was back to being full pin through the corner.

[Yow Ling]

Glen I think you need to add one more line to the poll

If im not sure, fuck it Ill have a go, see how it comes out

Oh yea who is this Sochirro Honda guy ? a famous bucket guy from when the Steadmans were racing?

[Pumba]

Hmmm, you changed the thread title from when I posted this morning. Shame, that seemed like a real good shit stir thread:bleh:

Anyway I didn't get the name Captain Fingertight for nothing. Need to be an option, My engineering skills aint bad, but I really should use that expensive Torque wrench in the toolbox more.

[codgyoleracer]

Glen I think you need to add one more line to the poll

If im not sure, fuck it Ill have a go, see how it comes out

Oh yea who is this Sochirro Honda guy ? a famous bucket guy from when the Steadmans were racing?

HaHa, yeah well "havin a go : thats taken for granted :-)

Sochiro, designed a few bikes in his day - and has been moderatly successfull at selling them to.:rolleyes:

[codgyoleracer]

Hmmm, you changed the thread title from when I posted this morning. Shame, that seemed like a real good shit stir thread:bleh:

Anyway I didn't get the name Captain Fingertight for nothing. Need to be an option, My engineering skills aint bad, but I really should use that expensive Torque wrench in the toolbox more.

Just added the word engineering, so it was more accurate. BTW i got told you are a "torque wrench" not that you cant use one ? :-)

[TALLIS]

Hmmmm... being smart and using non folding nylon foot pegs. Dosent work very well as a thrid wheel.. figured that looking at the bike slideing away from me.

[F5 Dave]

Well that was an obvious choice. Mr Honda was blinded by his love of four strokes & air cooling. So clearly I could teach him a thing or two about the obvious advantages of the clearly superior two stroke cycle engine. Heck I could even use his own product to point it out.:lol:

[Drew]

Well that was an obvious choice. Mr Honda was blinded by his love of four strokes & air cooling. So clearly I could teach him a thing or two about the obvious advantages of the clearly superior two stroke cycle engine. Heck I could even use his own product to point it out.:lol:

Your avid belief in the two stroke engine as superior, is completely unfounded!

My engineering skills aren't bad, I can almost always come up with a solution to a problem with what I have on hand.

[Shorty_925]

Well that was an obvious choice. Mr Honda was blinded by his love of four strokes & air cooling.

Blinded by all the smoke created by his 2 strokes! :)

[F5 Dave]

It's quite simple. Virtually all racing classes have been totally dominated by 2 strokes. CC for CC they are smaller, lighter & more powerful. That makes an excellent motorcycle powerplant.

Its only since pressure from manufacturers (the Evil Honda at the forefront) that classes have been artificially altered to give 4 strokes an advantage, or just banned them outright.

I mean 500cc 2 strokes against 990 4 strokes? Any CC advantage to the 4 bangers is just an admission that they aren't as good. :rolleyes:

[crazy man]

It's quite simple. Virtually all racing classes have been totally dominated by 2 strokes. CC for CC they are smaller, lighter & more powerful. That makes an excellent motorcycle powerplant.

Its only since pressure from manufacturers (the Evil Honda at the forefront) that classes have been artificially altered to give 4 strokes an advantage, or just banned them outright.

I mean 500cc 2 strokes against 990 4 strokes? Any CC advantage to the 4 bangers is just an admission that they aren't as good. :rolleyes:a four stroke only fires half as much so fair is fair a four stroke should be twice the size

[F5 Dave]

a four stroke only fires half as much so fair is fair a four stroke should be twice the size
Fair? Fair? Since when are we talking about fair? Life isn't fair. If yer pig ugly you won't attract the girls.

All I was saying is that the 2 stroke engine is smaller lighter & more powerful. That makes it an excellent choice for a racing motorcycle. Maybe they should run horse races & give the duffers a 1/2 lap head start as its only fair 'cause they're slow.

[Henk]

Can I have a half lap head start cos I'm a slow old duffer?

[crazy man]

Can I have a half lap head start cos I'm a slow old duffer?no but you can use a rotary

[Pumba]

a four stroke only fires half as much so fair is fair a four stroke should be twice the size

250cc four stroke for F4 then. As we are self regulating no need to wait for MNZ to change the rule book I will just start building one.

The good new is that Rich's engine might actually be legal:dodge:

[Yow Ling]

250cc four stroke for F4 then. As we are self regulating no need to wait for MNZ to change the rule book I will just start building one.

The good new is that Rich's engine might actually be legal:dodge:

250 diesels and 150 ring dings , sounds great, sounds like streetstock, mmmm open streetstock just like CAMS are running down here.

[codgyoleracer]

250 diesels and 150 ring dings , sounds great, sounds like streetstock, mmmm open streetstock just like CAMS are running down here.

Better start making the run off at the bucket tracks a bit bigger first dont'ya think ? ;-)

[Yow Ling]

Better start making the run off at the bucket tracks a bit bigger first dont'ya think ? ;-)

Ruapuna and Levels are OK for buckets , dunno how you guys manage on the big bikes though

[speedpro]

The good new is that Rich's engine might actually be legal:dodge:

:innocent: for a change

[codgyoleracer]

Ruapuna and Levels are OK for buckets , dunno how you guys manage on the big bikes though

Closing your eyes helps............ :-)

[cotswold]

Can I have a half lap head start cos I'm a slow old duffer?

If I can have a water cooled 125 2 stroke then I have no objections ( and I'm older still )

[codgyoleracer]

[QUOTEAll I was saying is that the 2 stroke engine is smaller lighter & more powerful. That makes it an excellent choice for a racing motorcycle. Maybe they should run horse races & give the duffers a 1/2 lap head start as its only fair 'cause they're slow.[/QUOTE]


Supecharged even better ?
http://www.limtechnology.com/Pages/conventional_twostroke.htm

[jasonu]

If I can have a water cooled 125 2 stroke then I have no objections ( and I'm older still )

How about an RS125 then???

[F5 Dave]

Ah heck why not splash out on an RSA April factory bike? All obsolete now, must be givin them away.:cool:

[jasonu]

Ah heck why not splash out on an RSA April factory bike? All obsolete now, must be givin them away.:cool:

But that is not in the sprit of the rules...

[cotswold]

How about an RS125 then???

I reckon RS frames are a step too far ( cus I can't afford one ) :rolleyes:

[F5 Dave]

He was talking about a RS125 complete if your 125 LC rules were fact.


My RS frame with tank, swingarm, front & rear suspension, bodywork, was $300. Right time right place. Tell me that is too expensive.

[cotswold]

He was talking about a RS125 complete if your 125 LC rules were fact.


My RS frame with tank, swingarm, front & rear suspension, bodywork, was $300. Right time right place. Tell me that is too expensive.

Was that during Muldoons reign??

[jasonu]

Was that during Muldoons reign??

I paid around $1000 for a 1995 RS125 NX4 roller. I bought it bit by bit. For what you get I think that is a pretty good deal.

[F5 Dave]

Was that during Muldoons reign??

ok it was 8 years ago I got that, but I just sold a similar set up for $650 & it has (non RS) wheels in it. In fact it still hasn't left my garage because we're horse trading so not so much real $ has to change hands.

[jasonu]

ok it was 8 years ago I got that, but I just sold a similar set up for $650 & it has (non RS) wheels in it. In fact it still hasn't left my garage because we're horse trading so not so much real $ has to change hands.

You're getting a horse???:2thumbsup

[SHELRACING]

One of the first buckets I built (on my own ) was an RX 125 I used the original Rx frame and tweaked it a bit. First time out down the straight at Mt Welly for no apparent reason the front wheel tucked in spat me over the handlebars right in front of the pit gate. :doh: At least I didn't have far to walk to the pits. That was the first and last time I rode the Biatch

Thanks to the technical advances in Zip Ties I don't need to attempt welding so much these days.

[all4A50s]

For me its about having the equipment that will do the job, as in a welder that can penetrate more than 1/2mm (so exhuasts stay together) and using nylex nuts. Still need to remember finishing the basics though and not leaving until the next day and completely forgetting about it.

[F5 Dave]

You're getting a horse???:2thumbsup
Heck I never thought of asking for a horse.

Bit of Horse/manlove goes on in Oregon?:love:

[jasonu]

Heck I never thought of asking for a horse.

Bit of Horse/manlove goes on in Oregon?:love:

Na mate Brokeback mountian is in Montana (I think)

[cotswold]

I paid around $1000 for a 1995 RS125 NX4 roller. I bought it bit by bit. For what you get I think that is a pretty good deal.

Very good, people are asking that for a pair of wheels

[crazy man]

264240this is a real bucket!:cool:

[Buckets4Me]

264240this is a real bucket!:cool:

no that there is a pice of shite :devil2:

:rolleyes: Looks like something my 12 year old made

[crazy man]

no that there is a pice of shite :devil2:

:rolleyes: Looks like something my 12 year old madecome one that is the copy of a bike that prombly one more gps than anyone

[Buckets4Me]

come one that is the copy of a bike that prombly one more gps than anyone

not a very good copy if you ask me :clap:264242 this would have looked better

or you could have coppied these. even thow they are honda's http://world.honda.com/WGP/600wins/bikes/

[crazy man]

not a very good copy if you ask me :clap:264242 this would have looked better

or you could have coppied these. e4ven thow they are honda's http://world.honda.com/WGP/600wins/bikes/at least it lasts more than 3 mins lol:bleh:

[Buckets4Me]

at least it lasts more than 3 mins lol:bleh:

Mine is 6 years and still going strong :not:
in fact the first frame is now being raced by the grandchild of the first owner :headbang: Three generations 1 bike 2 engines. That beats 3 mins any time
and it's probably had miore crashes that you GP winning copy :bleh:

[crazy man]

Mine is 6 years and still going strong :not:
in fact the first frame is now being raced by the grandchild of the first owner :headbang: Three generations 1 bike 2 engines. That beats 3 mins any time
and it's probably had miore crashes that you GP winning copy :bleh:it was built just to copy morlys bike apart from the water cooled engine which is coming out and the air cooled copy is going in . only raced it once around 12 years ago and did win 50% of mine races on it and crashed it twice that day lol

[Buckets4Me]

it was built just to copy morlys bike apart from the water cooled engine which is coming out and the air cooled copy is going in . only raced it once around 12 years ago and did win 50% of mine races on it and crashed it twice that day lol

well I managed to win 2 races once :clap:
crashed more times than I care to remember :rolleyes:
and now need to get back to it as it seams like 12 years since I last rode it

[worm13]

well I managed to win 2 races once :clap:
crashed more times than I care to remember :rolleyes:
and now need to get back to it as it seams like 12 years since I last rode it

sometimes crazy man crashed so many times in a day even he couldnt record how many times for that day!! my best is twice in a day

[F5 Dave]

I looked at the pic & instantly thought I'd know that nosecone anywhere. Thought you'd posted it to scare Jason.

[crazy man]

I looked at the pic & instantly thought I'd know that nosecone anywhere. Thought you'd posted it to scare Jason.l did but hopfully he has not had a hart attack after seeing it lol

[wildman]

Picture of my bucket bike i use to race 18 years ago, had the skills to rebuild it everytime i crashed it just not the skills to ride it succrssfully. Sold it and switched to sidecar, found the bike about a month ago in a musem still the same as in the picture and my riding skills are still about the same, except my hair is now white andf i weigh another 20kg. Hoping to buy it back and have a young guy to race it, might put him on the one i brought from Lewis first though.264273

[crazy man]

Picture of my bucket bike i use to race 18 years ago, had the skills to rebuild it everytime i crashed it just not the skills to ride it succrssfully. Sold it and switched to sidecar, found the bike about a month ago in a musem still the same as in the picture and my riding skills are still about the same, except my hair is now white andf i weigh another 20kg. Hoping to buy it back and have a young guy to race it, might put him on the one i brought from Lewis first though.264273nice bike l have not forgot about the video just got to remove a part with me teaseing my sister lol

[jasonu]

I looked at the pic & instantly thought I'd know that nosecone anywhere. Thought you'd posted it to scare Jason.


l did but hopfully he has not had a hart attack after seeing it lol

No heart attack just bad memories...:weep:

[codgyoleracer]

Looks like the poll sesvwe are all self-declared muppets mostly at the mo............. Of course this confirms that Bucket racers have the rare inner skill of being able to laugh at oneself. (a skill not always appaent in other forms of motorsport) :-)

[Yow Ling]

Looks like the poll sesvwe are all self-declared muppets mostly at the mo............. Of course this confirms that Bucket racers have the rare inner skill of being able to laugh at oneself. (a skill not always appaent in other forms of motorsport) :-)

So when you getting a bucket Dr Codgy ?

[crazy man]

So when you getting a bucket Dr Codgy ?we don':msn-wink:t need another back marker like me at the club

[codgyoleracer]

So when you getting a bucket Dr Codgy ?

If i came across one that took my fancy - i will be into it. Have done a bit of it before and have had an absolute ball.:lol:

[husaberg]

Oh yea who is this Sochirro Honda guy ? a famous bucket guy from when the Steadmans were racing?

From what i understand the Sochirro Honda (AKA Darth Vader) guy is F5Dave's dad


So when you getting a bucket Dr Codgy ?


There could be a Ex works Honda F4 ride on offer for Greymouth Glen?

[Yow Ling]

There could be a Ex works Honda F4 ride on offer for Greymouth Glen?

Why would he risk it, you ticked "I am a complete muppett when it comes to engineering" in his suitable engineer questionaire

anyway it on in only about 5 months.

[husaberg]

Why would he risk it, you ticked "I am a complete muppett when it comes to engineering" in his suitable engineer questionaire

anyway it on in only about 5 months.

Er you never ticked it at all .Plus i have a sense of Humour. How often do people accuse you of that mike?:msn-wink:

5 months to go yes.

Plus Glen (Williams)Ticked it as well and i guess he normally preps his own bikes so he will fell at home then id he took up the offer.

[Yow Ling]

Er you never ticked it at all .Plus i have a sense of Humour. How often do people accuse you of that mike?:msn-wink:

5 months to go yes.

I didnt like the questions, and I think Bucket Racers sounds better than Bucket Riders

Plus I never go back and change my posts to try and change KB history

[codgyoleracer]

From what i understand the Sochirro Honda (AKA Darth Vader) guy is F5Dave's dad




There could be a Ex works Honda F4 ride on offer for Greymouth Glen?

Very nice , Iasked Steve if they were going to include Pre89 bikes this year & if so i would bring my Bimota YB8 down for a play, but he reckons the 89's are not yet a happening thing down there for the postie races yet.

If he changes his mind - you better lock Vanessa up........... :-)

[Kickaha]

Very nice , Iasked Steve if they were going to include Pre89 bikes this year & if so i would bring my Bimota YB8 down for a play,

Enter it in F1 you big poof

[husaberg]

Very nice , Iasked Steve if they were going to include Pre89 bikes this year & if so i would bring my Bimota YB8 down for a play, but he reckons the 89's are not yet a happening thing down there for the postie races yet.

If he changes his mind - you better lock Vanessa up........... :-)

The Motard is available as well but it will be sharing a few parts with the Bucket. (Tyres etc)

[codgyoleracer]

Enter it in F1 you big poof

HaHa -nah those guys are scary.......... :-)

[codgyoleracer]

The Motard is available as well but it will be sharing a few parts with the Bucket. (Tyres etc)

& Those guys are just plain mad ! :2thumbsup

[Grumph]

If i came across one that took my fancy - i will be into it. Have done a bit of it before and have had an absolute ball.:lol:

I know where a 125 MV Augusta is sitting....would that be sufficiently unique to take your fancy as a bucket ?

Admittedly it's only a mid 70's commuter - but it is still an MV....

[codgyoleracer]

I know where a 125 MV Augusta is sitting....would that be sufficiently unique to take your fancy as a bucket ?

Admittedly it's only a mid 70's commuter - but it is still an MV....

Sounds a bit flash for me, - I have enough trouble keeping one Italian bike in one piece and running :-)

[mossy1200]

Sounds a bit flash for me, - I have enough trouble keeping one Italian bike in one piece and running :-)

I have a spare seat and tank with breather holes that you can have for free.