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Blackbird
4th June 2012, 10:44
Is anyone old enough to remember (errr... like me :( ) the annual match racing series between the U.S and U.K, featuring such greats as Nixon, Romero, Cooper and Tait?

I was privileged to actually attend some of these meetings and they still rate as some of the most thrilling racing I've ever seen over 40+ years. The howl of 10 factory-prepared Triumph/BSA triples with 3 into one open exhaust systems will stay with me forever.

Here's a link to some photos I took of the 1971 series and a further link to a booklet which a British couple have just produced on the series which brought back lots of memories: http://geoffjames.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/anglo-american-match-racing-1971.html

Small wonder that at 64, I'm riding a Street Triple after those early influences ! :2thumbsup

Berries
4th June 2012, 11:39
Is anyone old enough to remember (errr... like me :( ) the annual match racing series between the U.S and U.K, featuring such greats as Nixon, Romero, Cooper and Tait?
No. But old enough to remember going down to Donington as a teenager to watch the transatlantic series in the 80's with names most people on here will be familiar with, Schwantz, Sheene, Gardner and my Grandmas favourite Ron Haslam.
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Blackbird
4th June 2012, 11:57
No. But old enough to remember going down to Donington as a teenager to watch the transatlantic series in the 80's with names most people on here will be familiar with, Schwantz, Sheene, Gardner and my Grandmas favourite Ron Haslam.


Hey, thanks for the fantastic link:niceone: - great to see the 2 strokes again! Wayne Gardner representing the UK???

Have never been to Donington, Silverstone and Mallory were my local circuits and my girl friend at the time (now wife of 40 years) used to live not far from Brands Hatch so those were the circuits I used to frequent. Great memories :not:

Scruffygit
4th June 2012, 15:33
No. But old enough to remember going down to Donington as a teenager to watch the transatlantic series in the 80's with names most people on here will be familiar with, Schwantz, Sheene, Gardner and my Grandmas favourite Ron Haslam.
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Fit in between you two.

Remember wringing the neck of my AP50 trying to stay with my neighbours (GT380, KH250 & Z400), and failing miserably, down to Mallory Park to watch the '77 match races.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLovgYl0Tec

Donnington was (is) only 13 miles from home and I was there for the first meeting when it was reopened.

Blackbird
4th June 2012, 15:54
Fit in between you two.

Remember wringing the neck of my AP50 trying to stay with my neighbours (GT380, KH250 & Z400), and failing miserably, down to Mallory Park to watch the '77 match races.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLovgYl0Tec

Donnington was (is) only 13 miles from home and I was there for the first meeting when it was reopened.

Hi John,
Great to hear from you and hope all is well :niceone:

I started on a Suzuki 50 which got an absolute hiding at my hands trying to keep up with a Tiger Cub and an Ariel Arrow belonging to my mates!

Don't suppose those match races still take place but they were great events. Somewhere in unopened household boxes in our shed, I have heaps of slides of other match races and of the 1969 Isle of Man TT - must have a poke about this winter.

eliot-ness
4th June 2012, 17:20
I don't remember much about the 70s series, but I do remember when it first started in the 60s. Cooper and Minter were the UK stars back then, and a guy called Mike Duff was, I believe, the American captain. Some very close racing then, mostly on Manx Nortons. Mike Duff was later known as Michelle Duff after a sex changed I think, and he/she, was still riding to my knowledge up to the 90s, as was Percy Tait, who is even older than me. I think John Cooper, was the first rider to use cast alloy wheels in that series. Minter,a great character, who always wore a top hat in the pits, was one of very few who, on a Manx, could beat Hailwood on the MV at Mallory Park where handling was more important than top speed. He later joined up with John Hartle to ride the Gilera 500 4s run by the Scuderia Duke team, but with little success. I'm too old to remember much more but the 60s was a great time when only a handful of riders made big money and most rode purely for the sport.

Blackbird
4th June 2012, 17:37
Mike Duff was a Canadian - you'll have the Americans knocking on your door :msn-wink:

I have seen Derek Minter race, but he was close to retirement when I started going to races. Cooper came to real prominence in the early 70's and I believe that he narrowly missed out on a works Honda ride. IIRC, he actually rode Hailwood's 500 - 4 on a few occasions in domestic events. I think it was Peter Williams of Norton fame who first used cast alloy wheels - a world first. John Hartle also rode the early Thruxton Bonnevilles with some success. I knew Percy Tait slightly as I used to drag race with Norm Hyde, a senior development engineer with Triumph. Photo attached of John Cooper's Seeley Matchless in 1968 at Mallory Park and Percy's Daytona at the same meeting.264496264497
Guess all that stuff shows me up as a real old fart :weep:

eliot-ness
4th June 2012, 18:44
I stand corrected one both counts, Peter Williams, and Mike Duff, but he was the team captain of what was regarded as an American outfit so I guess they didn't have too many US road racers in those days.
In the early 60s Cooper was, unfortunately, overshadowed by a number of top class riders and despite his obvious talent he had to wait in the wings for his time to come.
If I remember correctly, John Hartle was a works MV rider when Surtees won the world title for MV for the second time.
Wish I was as young as youi, you can still remember things, I need to be prompted.

Scruffygit
4th June 2012, 22:13
Hi Geoff,

All good apart from I don't seem to have had a spare moment since I got residency, too busy catching up with all the jobs I put on hold.


Hi John,

I started on a Suzuki 50 which got an absolute hiding at my hands trying to keep up with a Tiger Cub and an Ariel Arrow belonging to my mates!



Ah, the naivety of youth, and it doesn't stop as you get older.

Blackbird
4th June 2012, 23:15
Wish I was as young as youi, you can still remember things, I need to be prompted.

Hahaha, alas not true :(. My wife is in Europe on a "girlie"trip and I'm really struggling to remember what day the rubbish goes out, what all her "critical"instructions were and so on. It's a wonder I remember to go to bed :weird:


Hi Geoff,

Ah, the naivety of youth, and it doesn't stop as you get older.

Jennie says I never got past a mental age of 5, so what's new.....:rolleyes:

george formby
5th June 2012, 09:50
No. But old enough to remember going down to Donington as a teenager to watch the transatlantic series in the 80's with names most people on here will be familiar with, Schwantz, Sheene, Gardner and my Grandmas favourite Ron Haslam.


Did they have a series of trans Atlantic races on RD 350's? I can remember watching a race, Schwantz won I think, just, with a leading pack of 20 bikes. It was insane racing. Them's was the days.

Berries
5th June 2012, 17:43
Did they have a series of trans Atlantic races on RD 350's? I can remember watching a race, Schwantz won I think, just, with a leading pack of 20 bikes. It was insane racing. Them's was the days.
Not sure, wasn't that what Niall MacKenzie raced on?

Found some more video with an intro showing some very young looking riders - http://wn.com/1986_Transatlantic_Challenge

JakeDodds
21st June 2012, 11:39
Is anyone old enough to remember (errr... like me :( ) the annual match racing series between the U.S and U.K, featuring such greats as Nixon, Romero, Cooper and Tait?

I was privileged to actually attend some of these meetings and they still rate as some of the most thrilling racing I've ever seen over 40+ years. The howl of 10 factory-prepared Triumph/BSA triples with 3 into one open exhaust systems will stay with me forever.

Here's a link to some photos I took of the 1971 series and a further link to a booklet which a British couple have just produced on the series which brought back lots of memories: http://geoffjames.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/anglo-american-match-racing-1971.html

Small wonder that at 64, I'm riding a Street Triple after those early influences ! :2thumbsup

I attended the Anglo-American Match races and have thousands of negs of the series. My best memories were Barry Sheene at speed. Ron Grant smiling. And especially Cal Rayborn with the wreath around his neck. Great memories. I even visited Ron and his wife in California and use to buy my Suzuki race equipment from him

george formby
21st June 2012, 11:57
Not sure, wasn't that what Niall MacKenzie raced on?

Found some more video with an intro showing some very young looking riders - http://wn.com/1986_Transatlantic_Challenge


:2thumbsup That's my interweb viewing for the day. Thank you

Blackbird
21st June 2012, 12:16
I attended the Anglo-American Match races and have thousands of negs of the series. My best memories were Barry Sheene at speed. Ron Grant smiling. And especially Cal Rayborn with the wreath around his neck. Great memories. I even visited Ron and his wife in California and use to buy my Suzuki race equipment from him

Great to hear from you Jake! They sure were spectacular racing days with the riders being pretty accessible. I bet that the authors of the booklet would kill to get a look at your negatives! Somewhere, I have a slide of Nixon, Romero and others (maybe even Rayborn) all lined up on the dummy grid. It's a close-up head and shoulders shot of them all. I really must go through all my boxes of old stuff, but that's a major mission.

Thanks for dropping in!

Geoff

GD66
23rd June 2012, 21:48
Yum, Beezumph triples, drool drool....:bleh:

Cheers Geoff, I think the bloke in the pic behind John Cooper who you've identified as possibly Phil Read, is actually John Blanchard. :msn-wink:

Blackbird
24th June 2012, 08:12
Yum, Beezumph triples, drool drool....:bleh:

Cheers Geoff, I think the bloke in the pic behind John Cooper who you've identified as possibly Phil Read, is actually John Blanchard. :msn-wink:

Hi GD66 - I remember John Blanchard, didn't quite make it to the very top level for whatever reason. Can't quite remember what he looked like though... presumably superficially like Phil Read :eek:

al68
26th July 2013, 07:14
I raced at that meeting being invited to ride in the king of brands supporting race(to the actual anglo match races) seems a long time ago now....
I guess it was, I was just breaking into national events at the time having been helped by Reg Kirby,brother of Tom,who did much more with Bill Ivy
Ahh those were the days...

Blackbird
26th July 2013, 07:25
I raced at that meeting being invited to ride in the king of brands supporting race(to the actual anglo match races) seems a long time ago now....
I guess it was, I was just breaking into national events at the time having been helped by Reg Kirby,brother of Tom,who did much more with Bill Ivy
Ahh those were the days...

Those were indeed the days:yes: Hope that your career was a successful one! I had a fair bit to do with Triumph development engineer Norm Hyde at that time. He was drag racing a supercharged Trident at the time and I was drag racing a short stroke Triumph 350. I chose drag racing to make up for my lack of cornering competence :facepalm:

Thanks for dropping by!

pete376403
26th July 2013, 21:02
Great to hear from you Jake! They sure were spectacular racing days with the riders being pretty accessible. I bet that the authors of the booklet would kill to get a look at your negatives! Somewhere, I have a slide of Nixon, Romero and others (maybe even Rayborn) all lined up on the dummy grid. It's a close-up head and shoulders shot of them all. I really must go through all my boxes of old stuff, but that's a major mission.

Thanks for dropping in!

Geoff

Unless you keep the slides in a temperature/humidity controlled environment it would be worthwhile getting a slide scanner and copying the slides to a hard drive (or two, you can never have too many backups).

Blackbird
26th July 2013, 21:10
Unless you keep the slides in a temperature/humidity controlled environment it would be worthwhile getting a slide scanner and copying the slides to a hard drive (or two, you can never have too many backups).

I would if I could find the buggers!
Have been less than impressed with some of the home scanners so had some of my precious old slides professionally scanned and cleaned up with some pretty trick software. Not cheap but happy to pay for genuine quality.

roogazza
27th July 2013, 08:34
I raced at that meeting being invited to ride in the king of brands supporting race(to the actual anglo match races) seems a long time ago now....
I guess it was, I was just breaking into national events at the time having been helped by Reg Kirby,brother of Tom,who did much more with Bill Ivy
Ahh those were the days...
Cheers al68, I used to follow Ivy, Read and Hailwood in the old MCN (newspaper version) as a 16 yr old. Loved the 60 & 70s racing.Didn't see them in the flesh sadly but the sounds of V4 2 strokes and Honda Sixs must have been incredible ?

Those were indeed the days:yes: Hope that your career was a successful one! I had a fair bit to do with Triumph development engineer Norm Hyde at that time. He was drag racing a supercharged Trident at the time and I was drag racing a short stroke Triumph 350. I chose drag racing to make up for my lack of cornering competence :facepalm:

Thanks for dropping by!
My vintage Blackbird, , 64 now, April '49'. Great years.
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Blackbird
27th July 2013, 08:51
Cheers al68, I used to follow Ivy, Read and Hailwood in the old MCN (newspaper version) as a 16 yr old. Loved the 60 & 70s racing.Didn't see them in the flesh sadly but the sounds of V4 2 strokes and Honda Sixs must have been incredible ?

My vintage Blackbird, , 64 now, April '49'. Great years.
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Great years indeed! It was a privilege to see all the superstars of that era, both on short circuits and the Isle of Man. The only bike I didn't get to see in the flesh was the works Honda 50 twin. For me, the 2 best sounding bikes were the factory racing 750 Tridents and Hailwood's Honda 6 as per your photo - get goosebumps thinking about them :laugh: