Team GPR

[TALLIS]

Garage was stacked

[seymour14]

Garage was stacked

Hope John Britten is looking down approvingly. What a lovely sight.:cool:

[Bert]

Garage was stacked


Hope John Britten is looking down approvingly. What a lovely sight.:cool:

Just missing the other two... But club day took priority, shame about the low turn out.

[Bert]

Monday progress.

TZ250 is now white... I'm disappointed with my prep and repairs but at 20/20 it will be fine.
I'm going to order a new set when I'm feeling rich again.

Right back to the gearbox issues.

Almost apart (now found I need a bigger than 30mm socket). So shopping.
Scott - thank you for your bits (letterbox tomorrow).

[TALLIS]

Monday progress.

TZ250 is now white... I'm disappointed with my prep and repairs but at 20/20 it will be fine.
I'm going to order a new set when I'm feeling rich again.

Right back to the gearbox issues.

Almost apart (now found I need a bigger than 30mm socket). So shopping.
Scott - thank you for your bits (letterbox tomorrow).
Can't wait to see it all together, need to catch up with you, then some new fairings mite be on the cards :niceone:

[mr bucketracer]

help , 50 has burn't me out . help:weep:

[TALLIS]

help , 50 has burn't me out . help:weep:

Do we need to swap?

[mr bucketracer]

Do we need to swap?i don't want to be sinders:facepalm:

[Grumph]

i don't want to be sinders:facepalm:

Hey, cinders, google "glass slipper dragster" Don't think it'd fit you though....

[mr bucketracer]

Hey, cinders, google "glass slipper dragster" Don't think it'd fit you though....iv seen them with Honda xl c.b 200 engines

[mr bucketracer]

Making use of wheels , set up the same as a rs125 rim 319402319403

[jasonu]

Making use of wheels , set up the same as a rs125 rim 319402319403

Now THAT is what Buckets is all about!!!!!

[husaberg]

Making use of wheels , set up the same as a rs125 rim 319402319403

Like:rockon:.......... is it a CBR400 or 600 rear rim?
What rubbers did you end up using?

I have stole the pics for my album I made the other day
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=5008

[Pumba]

Making use of wheels , set up the same as a rs125 rim

That is freaking awesome! Make me up one that fits the GSXR rims please

[TALLIS]

What rubbers did you end up using?

Durex rubbers

It looks like I need to order some more rs cush drives...

Nice album husa, I think Kerry mite be in the business of selling cnc rs hub sprocket carries also...

[husaberg]

Durex rubbers

It looks like I need to order some more rs cush drives...

Nice album husa, I think Kerry mite be in the business of selling cnc rs hub sprocket carries also...

Durex I hope the rubber last more than once go.
I thought the RS rubbers were unobtainium now, or was that just the NF4 ones.
I was thinking maybe doing them with the bolts on permanently (like these that the old XL Hondas had or one piece like the old yamahas)
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that way you could change sprockets without messing around with the three bolts. (assuming you already outfitted the spare sprockets with them as well)
Somewhere i saved on my computer a source heap of cheap metalastic rubbers that were used on cars.
like these, only much cheaper
http://www.bearingandengineering.co.nz/shop/BEARINGS/Rubber/Suspension+Bushes/FBNS+1024.1822+RADIUS+RUBBER+MOUNT.html
http://www.apcautoparts.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&path=1311&product_id=323

[seymour14]

Durex rubbers

It looks like I need to order some more rs cush drives...

Nice album husa, I think Kerry mite be in the business of selling cnc rs hub sprocket carries also...

Get in line, I'm mass producing air cooled derbi motors.

I want to watch them blow up...:lol:

[Aeromo]

Making use of wheels , set up the same as a rs125 rim 319402319403

Oh how much bro?. Just what I need

[Grumph]

Good luck with the rubbers, I'm not interested in doing another batch of urethane ones.
FWIW it appears thet the Lawrance bros - sidecar racers in Hamilton ? - have the moulds to cast urethane bushes in the right size.
I made some replacements for a sidecar wheel cush which were exactly the same as RS - then the owner found out about the Lawrances.

[F5 Dave]

Found it just as easy to buy gen from accu products, but combine so freight split.

[chrisc]

I'm looking at bringing in some Honda ones from Japan for my RS125. I think they work out to be about $13 or something each.
How many people would be in for some?

Steve Ward reckons that he's seen the non-oem nolathane type replacements flog gearboxes before in the RS125s but that may be anecdotal.

[Bert]

Making use of wheels , set up the same as a rs125 rim 319402319403

So did the NS1 wheels get the same treatment?

If so then I'll get a few more sets????


Good luck with the rubbers, I'm not interested in doing another batch of urethane ones.
FWIW it appears thet the Lawrance bros - sidecar racers in Hamilton ? - have the moulds to cast urethane bushes in the right size.
I made some replacements for a sidecar wheel cush which were exactly the same as RS - then the owner found out about the Lawrances.

That's a good point, let's make a mould and cast the bastards.

[Grumph]

I'm looking at bringing in some Honda ones from Japan for my RS125. I think they work out to be about $13 or something each.
How many people would be in for some?

Steve Ward reckons that he's seen the non-oem nolathane type replacements flog gearboxes before in the RS125s but that may be anecdotal.

He said the same to me but the same owners (not Steve...) also fucked carrier bearings cos they didn't realise that the bushes had a radiused edge which should go inwards..Fitted round the wrong way, they preloaded the carrier bearings....Given I've seen bigger HP bikes use them satisfactorily - and also bikes with no cush at all last for years, I have to wonder at the standard of maintenance on the ones which broke gearboxes.

[mr bucketracer]

double post

[mr bucketracer]

So did the NS1 wheels get the same treatment?

If so then I'll get a few more sets????



That's a good point, let's make a mould and cast the bastards.will be when i get some aluminum off cuts ,kerry up for a drink (-;

[seymour14]

will be when i get some aluminum off cuts ,kerry up for a drink (-;

Talk to you before the weekend.

Got some Formula Vee Cams to do tonight.:thud:

[mr bucketracer]

Talk to you before the weekend.

Got some Formula Vee Cams to do tonight.:thud:not them crap things lol , but rules work good for them

[mr bucketracer]

have to say , the classic bike seen is looking more like me

[TALLIS]

have to say , the classic bike seen is looking more like me
Hey mate, this is a bucket forum, keep those thoughts to yourself :innocent:

[mr bucketracer]

Hey mate, this is a bucket forum, keep those thoughts to yourself :innocent:yes sir:facepalm:

[seymour14]

have to say , the classic bike seen is looking more like me

CB350 Four? C'mon, Mr Hailwood would be proud...:ride:

[mr bucketracer]

What's the rear shock off319449

[mr bucketracer]

Bike getting there319450

[mr bucketracer]

Today's job .make a tank.not The the best. But ok319461

[TALLIS]

Today's job .make a tank.not The the best. But ok319461

Friday, dyno day

[seymour14]

Friday, dyno day

You would think a GP was just around the corner.

Check out the racing forum Scotty, there is a thread talking about getting ctaslive videos from a while back for free. You might finally be able to do something about that Taupo Round from a couple of years back that you were interested in.

[mr bucketracer]

You would think a GP was just around the corner.

Check out the racing forum Scotty, there is a thread talking about getting ctaslive videos from a while back for free. You might finally be able to do something about that Taupo Round from a couple of years back that you were interested in.that would be good

[mr bucketracer]

Friday, dyno daynot to far off

[goose8]

Friday, dyno day
How much you hoping for .?

[mr bucketracer]

How much you hoping for .?guess hes taking about my 50 .if i got 12 i will be over the moon

[mr bucketracer]

i'm keen on building some 350 4 racers , if anyone has or find race frame dimention on the net can you post here , thanks

[husaberg]

i'm keen on building some 350 4 racers , if anyone has or find race frame dimention on the net can you post here , thanks

if you are meaning std Honda CB350 the frame diemensions or rake and trail etc the 400 was a better handler (but that might have been just better suspension and ridding position

Or are you meaning the RC145 etc etc .... racers frame dimensions or rake and trail wheelbase etc.
have a look here.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151865-Old-multi-cylinder-bikes-of-the-50s-to-later-on-Japanese-British-Euro-etc
The Benelli was supposedly a better handler BTW
My father has a few CB350F's lying around.

RC166 (the 250 six)
http://www.p-drr.co.uk/frames2.html

RC181 the Honda 500/4 (the camel)
http://s11.photobucket.com/user/paulages/media/RC181.jpg.html

Your Bro should do a run of huge CNC'd 4LS brakes

[mr bucketracer]

if you are meaning std Honda CB350 the frame diemensions or rake and trail etc the 400 was a better handler (but that might have been just better suspension and ridding position

Or are you meaning the RC145 etc etc .... racers frame dimensions or rake and trail wheelbase etc.
have a look here.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151865-Old-multi-cylinder-bikes-of-the-50s-to-later-on-Japanese-British-Euro-etc
The Benelli was supposedly a better handler BTW
My father has a few CB350F's lying around.

RC166 (the 250 six)
http://www.p-drr.co.uk/frames2.html

RC181 the Honda 500/4 (the camel)
http://s11.photobucket.com/user/paulages/media/RC181.jpg.html

Your Bro should do a run of huge CNC'd 4LS brakescool must be a good side picture there , may have to bring up on the projecter to size and skch of t

[Grumph]

This is the best detail shot I have, from Classic Japanese Racing Motorcycles by Mick Walker.

I doubt the CB350/400 SOHC motors have as std enough of a lug on the cam cover to do it properly - and they don't lean forward enough either.
I realise you're looking at Register use but down here I could do a frame which looks period - and as long as the right bits hung off it, forks, shocks, wheels etc it would be acceptable.
i do know of a guy in South Australia who's building a copy of the real thing. He's a mate of an Aermacchi customer in Adelaide. He's got a track record of doing amazing things with Hondas so it will get built. Remembered the name - Jerry Koistra
I'll try and attatch a pic of the 350/455 one I've almost finished...

[husaberg]

This is the best detail shot I have, from Classic Japanese Racing Motorcycles by Mick Walker.

I doubt the CB350/400 SOHC motors have as std enough of a lug on the cam cover to do it properly - and they don't lean forward enough either.
I realise you're looking at Register use but down here I could do a frame which looks period - and as long as the right bits hung off it, forks, shocks, wheels etc it would be acceptable.
i do know of a guy in South Australia who's building a copy of the real thing. He's a mate of an Aermacchi customer in Adelaide. He's got a track record of doing amazing things with Hondas so it will get built. Remembered the name - Jerry Koistra
I'll try and attatch a pic of the 350/455 one I've almost finished...

He certainly does have a great track record the worlds fastest CB72/77 with 500cc and 6 speed gearboxs.

[Grumph]

He certainly does have a great track record the worlds fastest CB72/77 with 500cc and 6 speed gearboxs.

Yeah, he's helped my customer with some cam probs on his macchis - but he couldn't put a 350 dry clutch 5 speed box into a wet clutch 250. I could and did for the guy. Still together too, lol....

[husaberg]

Yeah, he's helped my customer with some cam probs on his macchis - but he couldn't put a 350 dry clutch 5 speed box into a wet clutch 250. I could and did for the guy. Still together too, lol....

I can't remember what his company did? but I think it was engineering for the mining industry.
it looks like he has done a CB72 based 500 4 as well. With DOHC
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For Scott here is a lot of information and pictures of all the models and their names
http://www.vf750fd.com/Joep_Kortekaas/1967.html

[mr bucketracer]

This is the best detail shot I have, from Classic Japanese Racing Motorcycles by Mick Walker.

I doubt the CB350/400 SOHC motors have as std enough of a lug on the cam cover to do it properly - and they don't lean forward enough either.
I realise you're looking at Register use but down here I could do a frame which looks period - and as long as the right bits hung off it, forks, shocks, wheels etc it would be acceptable.
i do know of a guy in South Australia who's building a copy of the real thing. He's a mate of an Aermacchi customer in Adelaide. He's got a track record of doing amazing things with Hondas so it will get built. Remembered the name - Jerry Koistra
I'll try and attatch a pic of the 350/455 one I've almost finished...cool ,plan on making a 4 valve heads , how far to a 500 can you take them if i went that way?

[Grumph]

cool ,plan on making a 4 valve head

Fair enough, you'll save effort if you use valves, cams etc from a CBR250 of course. Cast up a finned copy of the watercooled layout with stud spacings to suit the CB350 cases.
Looking at the cases, you could always cut and shut/weld the top face to lean the barrels forward. They're not sophisticated at all - and you could do a better/simpler cam chain tensioner too....

This one is 455 cos there are a lot of period o/s cast pistons appearing on ebay. Bigger than that, I'd look hard at the rods...and the liners (400 barrel....) are getting thin too. YowLing machined the cases for the bigger barrel.

More edit - if you really want a 500, start with a 500. There are more gearbox options available. The 400 6 speed don't go in the 350 cases...

[mr bucketracer]

Fair enough, you'll save effort if you use valves, cams etc from a CBR250 of course. Cast up a finned copy of the watercooled layout with stud spacings to suit the CB350 cases.
Looking at the cases, you could always cut and shut/weld the top face to lean the barrels forward. They're not sophisticated at all - and you could do a better/simpler cam chain tensioner too....cool , prombley do in stages

[husaberg]

cool , prombley do in stages
why stop at 4 cylinders;)
http://thekneeslider.com/jlsp305-300cc-5-cylinder-honda-by-jean-luc-borgetto/
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6HSBeMPOdJ0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



http://thekneeslider.com/300cc-inline-6-cylinder-by-guy-coulon-a-22000-rpm-race-engine-personal-project/

[mr bucketracer]

319492319493319494just got these pictures sent to me , 2006 last pn kart track meet if my mined serves me right ,fish at meet ,wet met , on the the first ever fxr 150 months from new rules

[mr bucketracer]

why stop at 4 cylinders;)
http://thekneeslider.com/jlsp305-300cc-5-cylinder-honda-by-jean-luc-borgetto/
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6HSBeMPOdJ0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



http://thekneeslider.com/300cc-inline-6-cylinder-by-guy-coulon-a-22000-rpm-race-engine-personal-project/got to love the sound

[mr bucketracer]

my new book
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[chrisc]

Of course it is mate. Those things have cast iron cylinder heads with match and candle ignitions

[TALLIS]

my new book
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That's my car in that book

[mr bucketracer]

Of course it is mate. Those things have cast iron cylinder heads with match and candle ignitionsshot gun shell ignition (-; lol

[mr bucketracer]

That's my car in that booki should of left that out lol:innocent:

[Grumph]

Just got around to looking at the jerry Koistra pics husa posted. tyrewarmers for pre 63 ? Hmmm.
But I do like the hot air guns to prewarm the motors. If i ever do greymouth again, i'll remember that. Probably have them stuffed up the riders leathers though...
The four is obviously Jerry's 350 rep finished. last pic i saw was about 18months ago, part done.

[husaberg]

A few more ideas
Drixton
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Lyster
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One off the Eurospares page of Mike Moore (this might be Drixton also)
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Colin Seeley
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Rickman
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A replica made for the CBR250 engine
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http://www.jl-exhausts.com/honda-rc162-replica-frame-kits-1037-p.asp

Honda ID guide
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/9d/cb/aa/9dcbaab203add7c491d807dd0f605601.jpg

Something a little different a replica based on the RCB racers of the latter 70's
http://i.imgur.com/GlYFn.jpg

nice side on pic rc174
http://dropbears.com/gallery/honda/images/Honda_1967_RC174_HnH.jpg

[Bert]

A few more ideas
Drixton
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Lyster
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One off the Eurospares page of Mike Moore (this might be Drixton also)
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Colin Seeley
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Rickman
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A replica made for the CBR250 engine
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http://www.jl-exhausts.com/honda-rc162-replica-frame-kits-1037-p.asp

Davies Motorsport
http://www.daviesmotorsport.com

[TALLIS]

nice side on pic rc174
http://dropbears.com/gallery/honda/images/Honda_1967_RC174_HnH.jpg

thats the ticket! dam thing has 2 cylinders to many

[TALLIS]

Davies Motorsport
http://www.daviesmotorsport.com

great link!:msn-wink:

[husaberg]

thats the ticket! dam thing has 2 cylinders to many

Make up a few dummy pipes or just bleed a few into 2 remember the Trident and the GT Suzukis 3 cylinders 4 pipes. It should actually make it quieter?

[Grumph]

Husa, where the f did you get that pic of the Lyster Honda mockup ? I have here one of the batch of 3 frames built under Colin's supervision in Nelson not long before he died. Must do some more on it even though No money's been seen for a while....

I'd probably do a Lyster for the small four. Have a look on line for the manx/G50 frames - very light gauge and small dia tube too. Given he did a frame for the 500 for Hailwood which seems to have worked but then everything was swapped to the reynolds frame...Very few pics of the Lyster/Hailwood frame around but it's typical lyster with four triangles meeting at the steering head.

Haven't looked at the Davies motorsport site for a while. My oil pump mods are cheaper (advert)

[Grumph]

thats the ticket! dam thing has 2 cylinders to many

The owner of the 350/455 four and I have discussed hydroforming another two pipes and simply putting a sheet over the bike every time it comes in to the pits....worked for Honda - for a while.

[husaberg]

Husa, where the f did you get that pic of the Lyster Honda mockup ? I have here one of the batch of 3 frames built under Colin's supervision in Nelson not long before he died. Must do some more on it even though No money's been seen for a while....

I'd probably do a Lyster for the small four. Have a look on line for the manx/G50 frames - very light gauge and small dia tube too. Given he did a frame for the 500 for Hailwood which seems to have worked but then everything was swapped to the reynolds frame...Very few pics of the Lyster/Hailwood frame around but it's typical lyster with four triangles meeting at the steering head.

Haven't looked at the Davies motorsport site for a while. My oil pump mods are cheaper (advert)

I googled lyster pretty sure it was a Repo?
It was in a thread somewhere about drixton frames i think.
i will have a look? later
there is more pics
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http://carsonlineuk.com/motorcycles/other_makes/316108-lyster-cb450-race-project-drixton-racer-black-bomber-classic-racer.html

plus here is a few more Drixton pics better on a twin but i still like em
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[Bert]

thats the ticket! dam thing has 2 cylinders to many


great link!:msn-wink:

For a while now I've been trying to convince scotty to build something like this for all the zxr250 engines lying in my and his sheds (we must have a 6-7 between us)..

Chuck in the FXR forks, find some shocks and spoked wheels.

The Davies lads have one with a CBR250, RC165 or whatever replica. It would be a fun toy to putt around in development...

[husaberg]

Husa, where the f did you get that pic of the Lyster Honda mockup ? I have here one of the batch of 3 frames built under Colin's supervision in Nelson not long before he died. Must do some more on it even though No money's been seen for a while....

I'd probably do a Lyster for the small four. Have a look on line for the manx/G50 frames - very light gauge and small dia tube too. Given he did a frame for the 500 for Hailwood which seems to have worked but then everything was swapped to the reynolds frame...Very few pics of the Lyster/Hailwood frame around but it's typical lyster with four triangles meeting at the steering head.

Haven't looked at the Davies motorsport site for a while. My oil pump mods are cheaper (advert)

while i was looking for the renolds frame i found a third one that was done for Hailwood i had never herard of it was a continential name it looked better than both.
The big issue with the framing the Honda according to Ken Sprayson was the height while trying to maintain ground clearance hence the abreviated downtubes and the odd under engine set up.
When Surtess tested Hailwoods bike he also mentioned there was a huge gap to the swingarm to the countershaft so no wonder it was a camel if it kept jacking up and had over well 100HP on Skinny tyres.

Shit i found it
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelio_Belletti


Here is the Lyster honda fully clothed.
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Renyolds
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plus a nice period side view of the Rc166 or 7 or similar
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[Grumph]

i'd lay good money on there only being two aftermarket frames for the 500 Honda. The Reynolds is well known. That Beletti I'd bet is what has been known as the Lyster.
Bear in mind that Colin didn't usually build his own frames. He designed them and farmed out the fabrication. Most if not all were made by Grand Prix Metalcraft in London. I'd suggest that Beletti made the "lyster" frame for Hailwood from Colin's drawings. i'm sure I've read that the Lyster frame was made in Italy too.

It has all the characteristic Colin features - square chain adjuster inserts(agricultural...) front downtube "girders" Multi tube rear triangles - and of course the Lyster brakes.

As an aside, when asked how many CB450 frames were made in the day in the UK, Colin apparently said that if someone asked for one he would just loan the drawings, sometimes for a fee, often not...He had no idea how many frames bearing his name had been built cos GP Metalcraft apparently did some without telling him as well.

[mr bucketracer]

great stuff , good side on's there , best to start collecting stuff now, what size tube do you think grumph ? 1 inch?

[Grumph]

great stuff , good side on's there , best to start collecting stuff now, what size tube do you think grumph ? 1 inch?

The 450 frame i have here is 1 1/8in main loops with 7/8in details. The manx/G50 frames like Neville Landrebe won the NZ title on in '68 were spindly looking things 1 in main rails with 5/8 in triangulation everywhere. His old frame is i believe still in ChCh. I heard someone in Auck approached the owner asking to borrow it to copy - with the promise of a fresh frame so the bike could come out again. It's known to be cracked badly...
The answer was no....
Apparently, Colin didn't use anything sophisticated in tubing. His designs rely on straight tube triangulation so strength in bending is not relevant.

lifted a pic of the lightweight G50 frame off michael Moore's site, with thanks. This is same as landrebe's one. They were only intended to do one season of GP's or brit short circuits then throwaway. Would you build one like this now ?

[husaberg]

i'd lay good money on there only being two aftermarket frames for the 500 Honda. The Reynolds is well known. That Beletti I'd bet is what has been known as the Lyster.
Bear in mind that Colin didn't usually build his own frames. He designed them and farmed out the fabrication. Most if not all were made by Grand Prix Metalcraft in London. I'd suggest that Beletti made the "lyster" frame for Hailwood from Colin's drawings. i'm sure I've read that the Lyster frame was made in Italy too.

It has all the characteristic Colin features - square chain adjuster inserts(agricultural...) front downtube "girders" Multi tube rear triangles - and of course the Lyster brakes.

As an aside, when asked how many CB450 frames were made in the day in the UK, Colin apparently said that if someone asked for one he would just loan the drawings, sometimes for a fee, often not...He had no idea how many frames bearing his name had been built cos GP Metalcraft apparently did some without telling him as well.

I am not sure if you can see the frame pics but they are very different in design. funny enough I have always thought Lyster had an hand in the Patton frames as they followed his head and spindly down tube design
I had never heard of the other frame, even in the write up Surtess did on the Hailwood 500's
Regardless both versions were claimed not to have been raced in GP's while it is claimed the Italian job evidentially was.

Later

this is what I found a bit of both

'Colin Lyster, who had worked on the Paton frames, which seemed to handle okay, offered help. 'when I spoke to chap from Renolds(注：Reynoldsの誤り）, the tube-makers, he said it would take a couple of months to knock up new frame. That was far too long to have to wait, so Colin and I went to Italy to see a man who had a welding business just outside Milan. Everybody told us he was a brilliant welder an a fair hand with frames. ～He* really got to work and produced a frame in sixteen days, We almost lived on his doorstep to make sure he hurried things along. 'We put the engine in it and tested it at Modena. It wasn't too bad, but it still wasn't quite right.'

'I rode the Honda with new, fuller frame at Rimini before the Grand Prix season stared(注：実際にリミニ(イタリア)のレースに出場したのはドイツGPの1週間後。 さらにフランスGP（500ccクラスはなし）の1週間後、ブランズハッチ（イギリス）で行われたレースに も出場している）. I managed to win, an the frame stood up to the tougher test better than standard one would have done. It was obviously only a question of time before the new frame was absolutely right, but time was something I didn't have enough of. I couldn't risk using it in the world championships.'

'～Honda were furious. They sent me a strong letter emphasizing that they like to keep everything they do secret. But I still couldn't get them to commit themselves about making a better frame. Then it all came to a head when I asked them for some bits and pieces for the new unit. They were so slow in responding that I gave up and abandoned the idea.'

（*: Honda Motorcycles(by Aaron Frank, 2003 Motorbooks International)によるとBelletti）
http://jfrmc.ganriki.net/rc181/rc181-1.htm


some other observations about the handling
http://www.vf750fd.com/Joep_Kortekaas/riders.html

Some other replica frame pics
http://www.motor-forum.nl/forum/list_messages/160140/Honda-RC181-replica-1.html
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[mr bucketracer]

50 is rooted )-;

[cotswold]

50 is rooted )-;

gp is not far off, best get busy

[mr bucketracer]

gp is not far off, best get busystarted up fine ,sounded good , done 1 run 8.5 hp not great but jetting needed, let it cool down and ban (locked up) running thermosyphon , not working great but tryed not to over heat as just 1 run

[seymour14]

started up fine ,sounded good , done 1 run 8.5 hp not great but jetting needed, let it cool down and ban (locked up) running thermosyphon , not working great but tryed not to over heat as just 1 run


That's not great, do I need to make a barrel for it.

Scratch that...:no:

Sounds like the thermosyphon wasn't doing it's part.

[mr bucketracer]

That's not great, do I need to make a barrel for it.

Scratch that...:no:

Sounds like the thermosyphon wasn't doing it's part.looks like the devon dave let go:rolleyes:

[TALLIS]

looks like the devon dave let go:rolleyes:

Savable? Knock it out, put the reed back in

[mr bucketracer]

Savable? Knock it out, put the reed back inwell.. thats go:niceone:Savable? should be

[F5 Dave]

Before that comment I was going to say give me a yell and we can sort it.

[husaberg]

Found in a shed, The pic is fuzzy sorry, its a cell pic from a distance, looking past a mountain of junk.
319592

[mr bucketracer]

Before that comment I was going to say give me a yell and we can sort it.have you got shears in the stuff? :yes: lol , think will put it back to standard set up if i can get the muck out

[mr bucketracer]

Found in a shed, The pic is fuzzy sorry, its a cell pic from a distance, looking past a mountain of junk.
319592whats that ,some british junk:msn-wink:

[Grumph]

Found in a shed, The pic is fuzzy sorry, its a cell pic from a distance, looking past a mountain of junk.

Oil filter's on the front so it's probably a Suzuki of some variety. Can't ID the frame though.

[husaberg]

whats that ,some british junk:msn-wink:


Oil filter's on the front so it's probably a Suzuki of some variety. Can't ID the frame though.

Hush with that Suzuki talk, Its a CB350F engine, The frame is a home brewed one it was brought with a starmaker engine and some quite substantial engine plates.
I can't remember for sure ,but i think it has chain adjusters on the swingarm pivot.
Its very light gauge tubing and it has a chain oiler built in to the swingarm. It looks very Rickman like in construction and if i recall correctly is bronze welded. I have no idea what it was built for but it has a substantial gearbox cut out in the bottom rails.
Behind it is a C15 a few B25 and a Villiers 2t twin (just out of view). In front of it is a massive pile of junk that I didn't even attempt to try and get around or over.

[mr bucketracer]

319607devcon Dave gone ,thermosyphon working now

[mr bucketracer]

Hush with that Suzuki talk, Its a CB350F engine, The frame is a home brewed one it was brought with a starmaker engine and some quite substantial engine plates.
I can't remember for sure ,but i think it has chain adjusters on the swingarm pivot.
Its very light gauge tubing and it has a chain oiler built in to the swingarm. It looks very Rickman like in construction and if i recall correctly is bronze welded. I have no idea what it was built for but it has a substantial gearbox cut out in the bottom rails.
Behind it is a C15 a few B25 and a Villiers 2t twin (just out of view). In front of it is a massive pile of junk that I didn't even attempt to try and get around or over.dads place :yes:

[Grumph]

deacon Dave gone ,thermosyphon working now

Don't give him a religious rank - it's DeVcon dave...

Is there a contest here i don't know about to see who can get the most junk into the background ? i think the lawn tractor is a first...Is that a braced and altered MB frame ?

Husa, the big cutaway for the gearbox on that frame IMO means it was built for the Villiers - you have to do that as they stick down an inconvenient amount.
If it looks Rickman and has a chain oiler in the arm, either Bruce Roberts or Alister Sabiston could be the builders. Both did that sort of thing for Villiers.
Alister even brought a batch of Starmakers in. If it is an Elsab, it's highly collectible.

[husaberg]

Don't give him a religious rank - it's DeVcon dave...

Is there a contest here i don't know about to see who can get the most junk into the background ? i think the lawn tractor is a first...Is that a braced and altered MB frame ?

Husa, the big cutaway for the gearbox on that frame IMO means it was built for the Villiers - you have to do that as they stick down an inconvenient amount.
If it looks Rickman and has a chain oiler in the arm, either Bruce Roberts or Alister Sabiston could be the builders. Both did that sort of thing for Villiers.
Alister even brought a batch of Starmakers in. If it is an Elsab, it's highly collectible.

Yeah the old man is highly attached to collecting stuff either way.
I am not totally sure if the cutaway is part of the original structure or a later add in.
I have seen an Elsab before at those old meets they used to have at old Macs place at Springfeild.
No one could beat the old man for the most stuff in a shed.

[F5 Dave]

I've seen Scotty's Dads place. Well he's cheating as the shed is like 15 sheds glued together, but there's a lot of stuff for one property.

[TALLIS]

319607deacon Dave gone ,thermosyphon working now
Good looking number board, and solves the age old problem of not being able to check water level mid race.

[Bert]

319607deacon Dave gone ,thermosyphon working now

Looking good.
I really should pop out and put my white frame away... And catchup.
Where the last month gone???

[husaberg]

Good looking number board, and solves the age old problem of not being able to check water level mid race.

It needs the 1981 Honda CR Darth Vader radiator/air intake.

[mr bucketracer]

It needs the 1981 Honda CR Darth Vader radiator/air intake.i have one of them but have the real yamy 81 one

[husaberg]

i have one of them but have the real yamy 81 one

I remember one of the YZ80''s had the rad up there as well likely more in that same era did too.
319619
I am quite sure the rules on the number boards sizes don't actually specify they have to be not at a 45 degree angle
Although technically the rad I guess can be the number board just add numbers painted onto the radiator or do this
319618

I have a bit of a blurb on one of these too somewhere
319621319620

[mr bucketracer]

still wrong husky

[mr bucketracer]

319622this is a 1981 yz 125 set up (-;

[husaberg]

still wrong husky

Er I wasn't trying to be right though?
But my god that Yamaha set up makes the Honda set up look Beautiful.
it looks like one of those stromtroopers on the hover bikes helmets from Return of the Jedi.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/127594/4609994-0755686031-AaXMy.gif

[F5 Dave]

My 50 uses an 81 yz rad,but std pump.

[mr bucketracer]

My 50 uses an 81 yz rad,but std pump.i need to look closer , did not pick up on that ( new qoute for you ( i had a 44 gallon drum of devcon ...sorry all gone ) sorry had to say it lol

[F5 Dave]

Yeah it fit nicely in the RG frame and was better than the two RG rads i ran before so I kept it. Seems to cope but all my attempts at temp gauges stop working after a short while.

[mr bucketracer]

got my new toy today

[seymour14]

got my new toy today

That sounds ominous Steven Joyce...:wari:

[mr bucketracer]

That sounds ominous Steven Joyce...:wari:Massey University:laugh:

[andrew a]

got my new toy today

Is it small makes a noise of a jet and your weight wont affect its performance?

[mr bucketracer]

Here you go husky 319671

[mr bucketracer]

Is it small makes a noise of a jet and your weight wont affect its performance?prity much it , got to heap it on the pulse as well lol

[husaberg]

Here you go husky
Oh that something special
319676

It just needs a spoiler front guard now;)
Remember the GL145
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=285149&d=1374292564

[F5 Dave]

Crumbs have you been robbing Morley's bike for the front number plate cowl?

[jasonu]

Crumbs have you been robbing Morley's bike for the front number plate cowl?

How is Morley these days?

[Bert]

How is Morley these days?

He's really good, hasn't changed a bit.
Still actively involved with racing (giving Tim Gibbs a hand with timing etc.).
We were lucky enough to have him out resently playing on the back track at Manfield.
He had dug out the old TF and had a blast: teaching one of his grandsons / friend/ something how to ride.

[jasonu]

He's really good, hasn't changed a bit.
Still actively involved with racing (giving Tim Gibbs a hand with timing etc.).
We were lucky enough to have him out resently playing on the back track at Manfield.
He had dug out the old TF and had a blast: teaching one of his grandsons / friend/ something how to ride.

That old TF probably has the same fuel it had at the last time he did a GP.

[mr bucketracer]

the 50 is running but a bit of a failer )-: makes 9.5 hp seems to run borbly like down low , will finsh and ride it as is , i should try nicks pipe on it some time

[seymour14]

the 50 is running but a bit of a failer )-: makes 9.5 hp seems to run borbly like down low , will finsh and ride it as is , i should try nicks pipe on it some time

Chuck my xr100 in it, you have my permission. Or have some fun on the 50, either way its another contestant.

[mr bucketracer]

Chuck my xr100 in it, you have my permission. Or have some fun on the 50, either way its another contestant.was thinking the xl but just want it finshed and ready to race, have more barrels but who knows why its not that great, need some more pistions as all i have is old ones lying about

[F5 Dave]

Sorry just had a look but nothing decent left.

[TALLIS]

i should try nicks pipe
Your more than welcome, as long as I get it back.....

[mr bucketracer]

Done apart from paint and polish319730

[mr bucketracer]

Your more than welcome, as long as I get it back.....its only a small one

[seymour14]

Done apart from paint and polish319730

Very nice bucketman!

[mr bucketracer]

Very nice bucketman!made out off.

1 snaped in half rs 1995 frame
1 near buggered rs swing arm
pit bike forks
nsr250 front break
vtr250 front wheel
vtr250 rear wheel and set up same as a rs125 rim
1981 yz yamaha radater and shroud
aprilla 1000 rear shock
home made sub frame , triple clamps ,linkage.
rg50 motor ,mild port job
home made chamber
home made tank.
1981 cr125 ignition

[chrisc]

Nice one Scott. I applaud your resourcefulness, hopefully it goes well for yah!

[mr bucketracer]

Nice one Scott. I applaud your resourcefulness, hopefully it goes well for yah!thanks chris should be good for some fun and make some more numbers hand it around like the mule lol

[jasonu]

made out off.

1 snaped in half rs 1995 frame
1 near buggered rs swing arm
pit bike forks
nsr250 front break
vtr250 front wheel
vtr250 rear wheel and set up same as a rs125 rim
1981 yz yamaha radater and shroud
aprilla 1000 rear shock
home made sub frame , triple clamps ,linkage.
rg50 motor ,mild port job
home made chamber
home made tank.
1981 cr125 ignition

Now THAT's a fucking Bucket!!!!!

[husaberg]

Just got around to looking at the jerry Koistra pics husa posted. tyrewarmers for pre 63 ? Hmmm.
But I do like the hot air guns to prewarm the motors. If i ever do greymouth again, i'll remember that. Probably have them stuffed up the riders leathers though...
The four is obviously Jerry's 350 rep finished. last pic i saw was about 18months ago, part done.

Hey Greg Net scutter says that Jerry four has Suzuki GSX either Head or heads what do you know. Do you still have some GSX250/400 in bits there?

[Grumph]

Hey Greg Net scutter says that Jerry four has Suzuki GSX either Head or heads what do you know. Do you still have some GSX250/400 in bits there?

All I've got here is an assembled GSX250 race engine for which I will have another go at a frame this winter.

If the pic you posted is jerry's replica as i think, none of the head or barrel shapes say Suzuki to me. The only remotely similar thing is the two oil gallery hex plugs on the end of the head. Looking at the end caps it is possible it may have lever cam followers with a narrow valve angle rather than the OE Honda direct buckets and wide angles.
It is possible however for Jerry to have cast up head and barrel using GSX250/400 valves and followers - the GSX400 air cooled four has a good head shape but piss poor bottom end.

[Bert]

Team GPR views?

GP this year, I'm thinking of giving it a miss again and handing the beast to a young fella.

I'm a little over the (it's not fair, rules not right, sheep station racing world champions, egos etc etc). The fun of it isn't really there currently for me: on top of my workload, work projects, drought and club stuff...


Does the team mind having someone new?

[TALLIS]

Team GPR views?

GP this year, I'm thinking of giving it a miss again and handing the beast to a young fella.

I'm a little over the (it's not fair, rules not right, sheep station racing world champions, egos etc etc). The fun of it isn't really there currently for me: on top of my workload, work projects, drought and club stuff...

Does the team mind having someone new?

Understandable, especially when the gp brings out all the noters who don't do fuck all for the sport at any other time of the year. I'm much the same, I'm unsure (new baby due) if I can make it, so I'm not going to upgrade licence. Also I don't fell right doing the lady boy as you put it. Lol. Gpr150 for hire :rolleyes:

[F5 Dave]

You need to buy a dirt bike young man(edit, sheesh, both of you). . I didn't really start till I was at least 30something but it gives you a new lease on life.

[Bert]

You need to buy a dirt bike young man. I didn't really start till I was at least 30something but it gives you a new lease on life.

You forget I only just sold my KTM... Bloody thing kept on trying to kill me (maybe it was me trying to keep up with the little shits on 85s :killingme:killingme)..


Getting a lot of enjoyment out of the VMCC junior program (working with the kids) and trying to develop a full blown junior program and getting it off the ground: in conjunction with Manfield / VMCC / High-schools / MNZ / anyone that will listen and/or pony up some dosh.. But this takes a lot of effort (but so close to getting the green light: meaning bucket racing back in the Manawatu as well).. You can thank me later gents...

Kerry, I need a fav from you. We need a couple more bods to sit the MNZ stuff to get the aforementioned off the ground (a couple of parents will be doing the same and myself) and likely a few from other clubs will help out as well.

[mr bucketracer]

Most the guys there are not to bad .heap of guys that don't even race not (much) are more the shit sterers. if kerry did not want to do the the sidecar I would flag it to.or do the non cheats class

[F5 Dave]

Not sure I knew you had a KTM. Never saw you at any trail rides. Maybe something a bit more sedate like a WR? See the country.

[Bert]

Understandable, especially when the gp brings out all the noters who don't do fuck all for the sport at any other time of the year. I'm much the same, I'm unsure (new baby due) if I can make it, so I'm not going to upgrade licence. Also I don't fell right doing the lady boy as you put it. Lol. Gpr150 for hire :rolleyes:


Most the guys there are not to bad .heap of guys that don't even race not (much) are more the shit sterers. if kerry did not want to do the the sidecar I would flag it to.or do the non cheats class

Im not saying the 99% of the that guys that turn up are shitheads.
I really enjoy catching up with everyone (beer in hand) and will likely attend to do this..

But I'm still sour about what went down last year.
Being the one on the corner with the flag (missing the the critical bit) unable to supply a definitative yes/no to the Steward/CoC- it has sadden me that it all degraded to the polar views & outcome on the day and afterwards.
Everyone is entitled to their own views and likely saw things differently from a different angle: but the call was made and the outcome was right for the information provided.
It just showed how serious people are actually taking things.

Then, a protest at the Auckland two hour... Fck me...

Thus i see movement down the slippery slope...


Not sure I knew you had a KTM. Never saw you at any trail rides. Maybe something a bit more sedate like a WR? See the country.

Again time was the issue Dave.
The lifestyle job in local government is a 100% of my lifestyle (consumes far more time than it should) - but the payoffs in terms of involvement and personal enjoyment has been amazing. I guess it just depends on what side of he bed I wake up on...

[mr bucketracer]

Not sure I knew you had a KTM. Never saw you at any trail rides. Maybe something a bit more sedate like a WR? See the country.i got a kxf250 for some fun , don't seem to find time to use it

[mr bucketracer]

Im not saying the 99% of the that guys that turn up are shitheads.
I really enjoy catching up with everyone (beer in hand) and will likely attend to do this..

But I'm still sour about what went down last year.
Being the one on the corner with the flag (missing the the critical bit) unable to supply a definitative yes/no to the Steward/CoC- it has sadden me that it all degraded to the polar views & outcome on the day and afterwards.
Everyone is entitled to their own views and likely saw things differently from a different angle: but the call was made and the outcome was right for the information provided.
It just showed how serious people are actually taking things.

Then, a protest at the Auckland two hour... Fck me...

Thus i see movement down the slippery slope...



Again time was the issue Dave.
The lifestyle job in local government is a 100% of my lifestyle (consumes far more time than it should) - but the payoffs in terms of involvement and personal enjoyment has been amazing. I guess it just depends on what side of he bed I wake up on...all grey bikes have a min weight and allow rm 85 and crf150 etc in , ND bike add 30 kg witch is way less than my weight , prombley 65kg bike 70kg rider with gear +30kgs= 165 , a rule like that would not efected most derbi -rm85 -crf riders
just make the racing more close

[husaberg]

All I've got here is an assembled GSX250 race engine for which I will have another go at a frame this winter.

If the pic you posted is jerry's replica as i think, none of the head or barrel shapes say Suzuki to me. The only remotely similar thing is the two oil gallery hex plugs on the end of the head. Looking at the end caps it is possible it may have lever cam followers with a narrow valve angle rather than the OE Honda direct buckets and wide angles.
It is possible however for Jerry to have cast up head and barrel using GSX250/400 valves and followers - the GSX400 air cooled four has a good head shape but piss poor bottom end.

I am not sure what it is but I suspect it is another head with home cast cambox covers I just noticed the GSX 250 is center camchain so unlikely to be that or CB77 or similar

[jasonu]

all grey bikes have a min weight and allow rm 85 and crf150 etc in , ND bike add 30 kg witch is way less than my weight , prombley 65kg bike 70kg rider with gear +30kgs= 165 , a rule like that would not efected most derbi -rm85 -crf riders
just make the racing more close

I cannot think of any motorcycle class that has a combined rider+machine weight and I hope to never hear of Buckets going that way.
Eat less pies!!!!!

[mr bucketracer]

I cannot think of any motorcycle class that has a combined rider+machine weight and I hope to never hear of Buckets going that way.
Eat less pies!!!!!think karts do somthing of that kind .don't like pies

[kel]

But I'm still sour about what went down last year.
but the call was made and the outcome was right for the information provided.


..........

[Kickaha]

think karts do somthing of that kind

They have minimum class weights,combined driver and Kart at race end

[seymour14]

Most the guys there are not to bad .heap of guys that don't even race not (much) are more the shit sterers. if kerry did not want to do the the sidecar I would flag it to.or do the non cheats class

Pulled it off, fairness is all anyone asks, and it takes a lot to piss me off. Lets do Sidecars Scott if you want, leave it up to you.

[cotswold]

made out off.

1 snaped in half rs 1995 frame
1 near buggered rs swing arm
pit bike forks
nsr250 front break
vtr250 front wheel
vtr250 rear wheel and set up same as a rs125 rim
1981 yz yamaha radater and shroud
aprilla 1000 rear shock
home made sub frame , triple clamps ,linkage.
rg50 motor ,mild port job
home made chamber
home made tank.
1981 cr125 ignition

i'm going to pinch that photo and your list for somewhere else,
you boys never fail to amaze me

[TALLIS]

Moving on..... getting there slowly, working thru the whiskey

[TZ350]

That is going to be a great bike when it is done.

[mr bucketracer]

i'm going to pinch that photo and your list for somewhere else,
you boys never fail to amaze mebetter add the home made fuel cap lol:niceone:

[mr bucketracer]

Moving on..... getting there slowly, working thru the whiskeylol that devils whiskey

[mr bucketracer]

I just had to do this lol 319851

[TZ350]

I just had to do this lol 319851

Serious bit of work on that RG50 cylinder.

[F5 Dave]

That's on a heck of an angle. I'd like to feed the inlets and not stuff everything into the crank.

Getting the boost fed by the reed and making the b ports not feed the boost will bring some gain.

[mr bucketracer]

That's on a heck of an angle. I'd like to feed the inlets and not stuff everything into the crank.

Getting the boost fed by the reed and making the b ports not feed the boost will bring some gain.same angle as the gt, not given up on the other , will try what you taked about

[mr bucketracer]

Serious bit of work on that RG50 cylinder.just copying the 14hp gt50 the best i can:innocent:what will it do lol

[chrisc]

GPR, poster boys of Auckland buckets hahaha
Check out the back drop of the bucket section of the AMCC website... two Welly region riders front and center. Probably saw those leathers and thought "shit that's definitely a bucket rider".

http://amcc.org.nz/buckets/#bucket-news

[Bert]

:first:
GPR, poster boys of Auckland buckets hahaha
Check out the back drop of the bucket section of the AMCC website... two Welly region riders front and center. Probably saw those leathers and thought "shit that's definitely a bucket rider".

http://amcc.org.nz/buckets/#bucket-news

:first::first::first::rolleyes::not::nya:

South of Bombay is where it's at :killingme

[mr bucketracer]

rg 50 cyilinder finshed , exhaurt 2 degree less , inlets 2 degree less carb inlet 8 degree less but don't think that matter to much as reed bloke has more into crankcase , 4 hours work and think i'v made i good job , only thing over was the boost port and that was 4 degree over but will come right with rebores over years , all based of the pete sales gt 50 14 hp , need to finsh head now

[mr bucketracer]

bike was a failer at the last meet:weep:

[TALLIS]

bike was a failer at the last meet:weep:

No development time is your problem, money can't buy that, or can it? :cool:

[mr bucketracer]

No development time is your problem, money can't buy that, or can it? :cool:it was a slap happy job but not this time, talking to dave the inlets may off been to high but in saying that the exharst was to so just drop the barrel and it shound inprove , one spear engine then

[cotswold]

GPR, poster boys of Auckland buckets hahaha
Check out the back drop of the bucket section of the AMCC website... two Welly region riders front and center. Probably saw those leathers and thought "shit that's definitely a bucket rider".

http://amcc.org.nz/buckets/#bucket-news

thats just wrong :lol:

[mr bucketracer]

thats just wrong :lol:i thought it was the only thing they have right (-;

[mr bucketracer]

That's on a heck of an angle. I'd like to feed the inlets and not stuff everything into the crank.

Getting the boost fed by the reed and making the b ports not feed the boost will bring some gain.your a pain been right lol , on with the kr carb , can't work out why its diffient , cylinder must sit on a diffient angle to the gt

[mr bucketracer]

i have a secret weapon riding my bike at the gp , in a nut shell you guys are screwed:Punk:no pressure my rider lol

[Bert]

i have a secret weapon riding my bike at the gp , in a nut shell you guys are screwed:Punk:no pressure my rider lol

Suspence - hopefully a young gun? National Level Performer?
Could be an interesting F4GP.

I better get my ace sorted...

[goose8]

i have a secret weapon riding my bike at the gp , in a nut shell you guys are screwed:Punk:no pressure my rider lol
Lucky bugger who ever it is

[mr bucketracer]

Lucky bugger who ever it isif no one asked was going to let you ride it , maybe got to get bluey going

[Pumba]

I better get my ace sorted...

Its ok mate I know you are busy, I expect the call in due course. Dont worry out changing any suspension settings it should be mint:yes:

[Bert]

Its ok mate I know you are busy, I expect the call in due course. Dont worry out changing any suspension settings it should be mint:yes:

Gone blue yet? :bleh:

[mr bucketracer]

Its ok mate I know you are busy, I expect the call in due course. Dont worry out changing any suspension settings it should be mint:yes:i new bert was getting a fast rider but this is cheating :mad:

[Bert]

i new bert was getting a fast rider but this is cheating :mad:

Sorry Big C, but it looks like suspension changes will be needed as another GPR factory rider has confirmed.

Scotty - we can put our feet up and live the dream as team managers..:lol::lol::killingme

[richban]

While you fuckers are slinging around fast bikes I will take one. I got nothin!

[richban]

While you fuckers are slinging around fast bikes I will take one. I got nothin!


I will even supply new tyres.

[goose8]

While you fuckers are slinging around fast bikes I will take one. I got nothin!What happened to your f5 bike?

[mr bucketracer]

I will even supply new tyres.all these suckers , :ar15: maybe i need a race team and give up

[goose8]

if no one asked was going to let you ride it , maybe got to get bluey goingI'd love to have ago see how they handle

[mr bucketracer]

What happened to your f5 bike?new he had no chance with you turning up:cool:

[mr bucketracer]

I'd love to have ago see how they handlei better ask my works rider on the day (-;

[richban]

new he had no chance with you turning up:cool:

I got 2 chicken. Gazza for the win.

[goose8]

new he had no chance with you turning up:cool:

I was hoping there might be more f5s than f4s in the gp would of been awesome

[mr bucketracer]

I got 2 chicken. Gazza for the win.+1 here . go gazza

[goose8]

I got 2 chicken. Gazza for the win.
If he loses a couple of hp maybe or I find some haha

[mr bucketracer]

I was hoping there might be more f5s than f4s in the gp would of been awesomejust got mine going again , way better of the the seat dyno top end.... but crap everywhere else

[F5 Dave]

Ahh now you're getting there.

[goose8]

just got mine going again , way better of the the seat dyno top end.... but crap everywhere else
That's what the clutch is for Haha

[mr bucketracer]

That's what the clutch is for Hahano ,its real bad , dyno day tommow , so hope to fix

[mr bucketracer]

runs up sweet then go's into this burbleing mess , thinking its the ignition breaking down now

[F5 Dave]

Sounds feasible. Put an extra set of reeds on top to negate them being too soft, then you are down to ignition or carburetion

[mr bucketracer]

Sounds feasible. Put an extra set of reeds on top to negate them being too soft, then you are down to ignition or carburetionrunning good mid to top now but rich down low to half mid

[F5 Dave]

Throttle position or revs? `cause who cares about less than 9900?

[mr bucketracer]

Throttle position or revs? `cause who cares about less than 9900?when you go off the gas like going into a corner and back on it Boggs like he'll. Like it sucks in to much gas..not much ajustment in the kr carbs

[husaberg]

when you go off the gas like going into a corner and back on it Boggs like he'll. Like it sucks in to much gas..not much ajustment in the kr carbs

Start by leaning the pilot then do what you can with the needle, Maybe get Bro to make you few new ones. (with a fatter taper)

But I suspect you slide cutaway is wrong. if you have a spare the same try enlargening it .5mm

[jasonu]

Throttle position or revs? `cause who cares about less than 9900?

You never did.

[jasonu]

when you go off the gas like going into a corner and back on it Boggs like he'll. Like it sucks in to much gas..not much ajustment in the kr carbs

Sounds like jetting. Try messing with the needle jet first. Set it as far away from where it currently is and see what happens. My KERG100 was really sensitive to needle position and we got great results from simple needle height changes.

[F5 Dave]

So you're talking about throttle position. Get the pilot right first then the needle. I'd be surprised if the or one was unsuitable but it can happen. Check float not maladjusted and flooding, breathers clear. Heck take the pilot and emulsion tube right out and check not blocked up little holes, blow through front bell mouth orifices and check choke not leaking.

[TZ350]

We used to have low rpm fueling problems with our GP125's that no amount of jet fiddling could cure. It turned out that the float needle jet pushed into the carb body and was sealed by a small "O" ring, these "O" rings had gone hard and were not sealing properly and allowing the carb fuel level in the bowl to go high at low rpm. No problem when you were running hard out.

[F5 Dave]

Good call Rob, I bought a few of these and would replace them periodically.

[seymour14]

Good call Rob, I bought a few of these and would replace them periodically.

Nice ideas, Scotty will no doubt check for these when he gets back from Taupo.

Think there might be a few guys gone up for a weekend of racing, including Mr Bucketracer...

[TALLIS]

Nice ideas, Scotty will no doubt check for these when he gets back from Taupo.

taupo? I think you mean taumaranui.

[seymour14]

taupo? I think you mean taumaranui.

Went to the backup track then I take it...:yes:

[mr bucketracer]

50 running better , carb was at fault , bit of a hole at 10 but should run ok when sorted

[F5 Dave]

So what was the prob and what's she doing now!

[mr bucketracer]

So what was the prob and what's she doing now!320120.......i have tryed 4 carbs and can't remove the hollow , going to retart spark but maybe thats as good as it gets

[F5 Dave]

Your baffle cone is too steep, take a degree out of it. So you are looking at 12 at 11500? Pretty good going.

[mr bucketracer]

Your baffle cone is too steep, take a degree out of it. So you are looking at 12 at 11500? Pretty good going.ok , was just looking at the gt50 ,that peaks at 14hp @11.500 -12,000 where this is 12hp at around 13,500 -14,000

[mr bucketracer]

320126may see better

[F5 Dave]

Yeah more clear. Still not bad. Lots of revs.you'll need an 11tooth and a 50 or bigger.they are available. Without the right gearing it will be miserable, you must do it.

[mr bucketracer]

Yeah more clear. Still not bad. Lots of revs.you'll need an 11tooth and a 50 or bigger.they are available. Without the right gearing it will be miserable, you must do it.still change the rear cone ?

[cotswold]

320126may see better

My first dyno pull with the modified mx pipe looked just like that, changed to an off the shelf pipe built for NSR series in Japan and that nasty dip buggered off.
you gonna start a poll ;)

[mr bucketracer]

My first dyno pull with the modified mx pipe looked just like that, changed to an off the shelf pipe built for NSR series in Japan and that nasty dip buggered off.
you gonna start a poll ;)cool , so must be the pipe then , no idea how to do a poll ...anyone?

[Bert]

still change the rear cone ?

What's the required sizes Scott. I'll design it up tonight so we can roll it up over the weekend.

[mr bucketracer]

What's the required sizes Scott. I'll design it up tonight so we can roll it up over the weekend.maybe the fitz one or i should see if the gt one bolts up and copy that if it works

[richban]

maybe the fitz one or i should see if the gt one bolts up and copy that if it works



http://www.underdogsracing.com/fospipe/


First port of call i reckon. Also if you download cone layout it will give you the printable pattern. Then at least you can design the pipe for the exhaust duration you have.

[mr bucketracer]

http://www.underdogsracing.com/fospipe/


First port of call i reckon. Also if you download cone layout it will give you the printable pattern. Then at least you can design the pipe for the exhaust duration you have.thanks ,looks the business , job for bert me thinks

[cotswold]

heres one already done

[mr bucketracer]

heres one already donethats what i was thinking , carn't be to far of

[chrisc]

Good to see strong progress on the smokers! If you want to be rough about it, you could try adding length and/or reducing length from the header of your pipe. This will likely correct/minimise some of the mismatch but it's a compromise over true potential power. A pipe built for the cylinder and purpose is the best way clearly.

[RGVforme]

Good to see strong progress on the smokers! If you want to be rough about it, you could try adding length and/or reducing length from the header of your pipe. This will likely correct/minimise some of the mismatch but it's a compromise over true potential power. A pipe built for the cylinder and purpose is the best way clearly.

Lol before the invention of the 2T expansion chamber by limbach:not: and when two stroke trucks where the norm the length of the pipe is how you 'tuned' the engine.

When you bought a new 2t truck from the shop the asked what type of driving or terrain you operated on normally they cut the pipe to suit tuning it to your needs....Crazy stuff.

[richban]

thats what i was thinking , carn't be to far of

If your exhaust port duration is 194 then it should be bang on. The calculator spits out the same pipe if you put in the numbers. I just measured mine and it came up a little short. If you are making that pipe knock me you one would you. Cheers.

[mr bucketracer]

If your exhaust port duration is 194 then it should be bang on. The calculator spits out the same pipe if you put in the numbers. I just measured mine and it came up a little short. If you are making that pipe knock me you one would you. Cheers.i was hoping you were going to make me one :yes:

[TALLIS]

Have the pipe here to try, do you nred the manifold?

[mr bucketracer]

Have the pipe here to try, do you nred the manifold?i have the same manifold so should go straght on :scooter:

[TALLIS]

i have the same manifold so should go straght on :scooter:

Easy, was going to give it to uncle steamy yesterday but as usual, let me down....

[richban]

i was hoping you were going to make me one :yes:

I will totally make you one. I think I could loose you 4hp. maybe more. If I do you have to promise to run it. :msn-wink:

[mr bucketracer]

Easy, was going to give it to uncle steamy yesterday but as usual, let me down....oh man, coffee waiting for you:msn-wink:

[mr bucketracer]

I will totally make you one. I think I could loose you 4hp. maybe more. If I do you have to promise to run it. :msn-wink:well you never know

[mr bucketracer]

Went into the dungeon and found a pipe I made 20ish years ago not far of fitzs

[seymour14]

Went into the dungeon and found a pipe I made 20ish years ago not far of fitzs

Show the lads the sidecars new power assist...:killingme

I have been promoted from baggage to baggage with privileges!!

[mr bucketracer]

Just come inside .98 % copy of the frits one . started of prity close to start with ,bad welding but the grinder fixed that lol320176

[mr bucketracer]

Show the lads the sidecars new power assist...:killingme

I have been promoted from baggage to baggage with privileges!!will tomorrow , just need the reins:weird:

[TALLIS]

Now that's a wobbly pipe

[mr bucketracer]

Now that's a wobbly pipeyour be in front of me then:eek:

[mr bucketracer]

first run with the pipe and the hole is gone , looks more like a 4 stroke curve , still running flufy down low but hope to fix that soon

[Bert]

first run with the pipe and the hole is gone , looks more like a 4 stroke curve , still running flufy down low but hope to fix that soon

Choice.. Post photos.

P.s. Do you have my rivet gun?

[TALLIS]

200kg club is back in action after a few running repairs, let's see you lightweights beat this.:laugh:

[seymour14]

Not long now, can anyone suggest a good bottle of Port. Not my speciality, but lets have a go.:niceone:

[mr bucketracer]

Not long now, can anyone suggest a good bottle of Port. Not my speciality, but lets have a go.:niceone:if i can be bothered finshing mine , in shed , took husys advice on carb . better.. , 50 lost 1.5 hp removing 1 gastet , does that mean i will gain 1.5 over what i had if i put another on ? :violin:

[Henk]

Not long now, can anyone suggest a good bottle of Port. Not my speciality, but lets have a go.:niceone:

I'm over port, I'm drinking mead

[steamroller]

I'm over port, I'm drinking mead

come on people it db' double brown all the way:beer:

[Henk]

come on people it db' double brown all the way:beer:

Bring enough to share, we spent the night at the Okoroirie pub a couple of weeks ago, they had lots of macro brewed fizzy piss on tap. Tastes like shit but you can drink gallons of it 🍻

[mr bucketracer]

I'm over port, I'm drinking meadthis port i'm was having ago is so called very nice but has some punch behind it:eek:

[steamroller]

Bring enough to share, we spent the night at the Okoroirie pub a couple of weeks ago, they had lots of macro brewed fizzy piss on tap. Tastes like shit but you can drink gallons of it 🍻

I will bring lots to get you drunk then mite be able to get you in my love nest im bringing up.:msn-wink:

[Henk]

I will bring lots to get you drunk then mite be able to get you in my love nest im bringing up.:msn-wink:

Right that's it, no booze for me, only herbal tea

[Bert]

Not long now, can anyone suggest a good bottle of Port. Not my speciality, but lets have a go.:niceone:

Come and see me and I'll point you in a good direction

[Bert]

come on people it db' double brown all the way:beer:

If you buy double brown from the team account I will take the card off you....:wings:

[Pumba]

Right that's it, no booze for me, only herbal tea

I thought you quit smoking?

[Henk]

I thought you quit smoking?

I'm going to snort it

[Bert]

Team members didn't do too flash.

Poor scotty, first the sidecar then the 50.
But Regs forth on the CNC GPR125 and our Auckland import Mr Cain took 3rd on Scott's GPR150.

Well done to the AMCC crew. Another great meeting, good mix of seriousness and casual fun.

[wildman]

Team members didn't do too flash.

Poor scotty, first the sidecar then the 50.
But Regs forth on the CNC GPR125 and our Auckland import Mr Cain took 3rd on Scott's GPR150.

So who won sidecar gp yesterday?

[chrisc]

Super tough with sidecars and the 50 Scott! Sorry to see that but I suppose that's racing right.

MASSIVE thanks to Scott and GPR for handing me the so called keys to their hyper bucket, I appreciate the support and the faith in my riding! I made good on my word to put it on the podium after all :woohoo: but holy shit Nathaniel and Caleb are aliens. Following them (trying) gave me a new appreciation for how confident someone can be when their bike is so out of control and doing things it can't (Caleb) and how incredibly consistent and precise you need to be to be up the front of one of the competitive races of the year (Nathaniel). I learnt a tonne and have a few points of personal improvement from the experience that I'll take with me to 125GP.

Thanks again lads, it was a total eye opener and confidence booster to be your factory team racer! Even if I worked on 5 bikes all weekend anyway

320383

[richban]

Super tough with sidecars and the 50 Scott! Sorry to see that but I suppose that's racing right.

MASSIVE thanks to Scott and GPR for handing me the so called keys to their hyper bucket, I appreciate the support and the faith in my riding! I made good on my word to put it on the podium after all :woohoo: but holy shit Nathaniel and Caleb are aliens. Following them (trying) gave me a new appreciation for how confident someone can be when their bike is so out of control and doing things it can't (Caleb) and how incredibly consistent and precise you need to be to be up the front of one of the competitive races of the year (Nathaniel). I learnt a tonne and have a few points of personal improvement from the experience that I'll take with me to 125GP.

Thanks again lads, it was a total eye opener and confidence booster to be your factory team racer! Even if I worked on 5 bikes all weekend anyway

320383

Well done Chris. It was great to see you out there doing so well, you looked way consistent and smooth. Yeah watching Caleb push that bike well over the limit in so many corners was impressive. Nathaniel was so good through the traffic and on rails, all class. I'm looking forward to next year already.

[Rick 52]

For the amount of hard work you GPR lads do for the sport you deserve a medal, but you even supply them for everybody else !
Gutted for Scott with the breakdowns and Regans crash damage but Magic to see one of your bikes on the podium, Congratulations Chris .
Tyler had a good ride also, Thanks to Scott, MK11 Ford wouldn't have even started due to a broken bar that you welded up for us ..

Always good fun hanging out with you and your family .