2 stroke engines from Thailand

[Ric]

I am currently living in Thailand and can get access to 2nd hand 2 stroke air cooled 125cc engines.
Mainly Suzuki and Kawasaki. If anyone is interested in me looking around for them, let me know.

[TZ350]

I would be interested in knowing more about the type of engines you can get.

[timg]

I am currently living in Thailand and can get access to 2nd hand 2 stroke air cooled 125cc engines.
Mainly Suzuki and Kawasaki. If anyone is interested in me looking around for them, let me know. Hi, They got FXR 150's over there? Would be keen on some of those if price is reasonable. Cheers.

[richban]

Hi, They got FXR 150's over there? Would be keen on some of those if price is reasonable. Cheers.

Also Suzuki Raider 150. Same engine.

[Ric]

I would be interested in knowing more about the type of engines you can get.

There are suzuki 125's models trz and trs rotary valves, they seem to be similar to a gp but the only info i can google is on thai websites.
Also Kawasaki gto 125 rotary valve which you can google easily.
Something called Yamaha Concord but it may be a 135cc.
Suzuki rgv 150's.
I'll go back to the graveyards for another look soon.

[Bert]

There are suzuki 125's models trz and trs rotary valves, they seem to be similar to a gp but the only info i can google is on thai websites.
Also Kawasaki gto 125 rotary valve which you can google easily.
Something called Yamaha Concord but it may be a 135cc.
Suzuki rgv 150's.
I'll go back to the graveyards for another look soon.


the Kawasaki AR80 might interest the Two stroke developers.
AS too the Suzuki RGV125's (Pre1995-1997; with the USD forks).

[RDjase]

AS too the Suzuki RGV125's (Pre1995-1997; with the USD forks).

Like the one Billy was racing last year?

Havn't seen any others around

[Bert]

Like the one Billy was racing last year?

Havn't seen any others around

yip.

I don't think there are that many around.
it was my dream learns bike (next to the Cagiva moto) when I was a lad (recall seeing one in Phil Turnbul suzuki ~93-95??)
Shame this country never really had a small bike culture back in the 90's; we could have had a number of cool Two-strokes 125 screamers NSR/TZR/Moto/RS/RGVs etc. now were are stuck with boring old 4bangers

[koba]

Like the one Billy was racing last year?

Havn't seen any others around

Yeah that was quite odd compared to the usual fare. He said it was South African.

[Buckets4Me]

I'll go back to the graveyards for another look soon.

Take your camera with ya will you



Thanks for the offer and i hope your building something over there to bring back

[Ric]

Take your camera with ya will you



Thanks for the offer and i hope your building something over there to bring back

Well I did take a crappy phone camera with me and as soon as I work out how to attach the photos I will (HELP).
Anyway Yamaha rxz Suzuki rgv kawasaki gto suzuki trs all about $150-$200 here for engine

[TZ350]

Well I did take a crappy phone camera with me and as soon as I work out how to attach the photos I will (HELP).

Thank you for the info and taking pictures, I am looking forward to seeing them, but with only three posts you may not have the rights to post pictures yet. You might have to place a few more general posts first.

[RDjase]

Are there any KR150 engines available?

Kips or Super Kips power valve

[Ric]

Are there any KR150 engines available?

Kips or Super Kips power valve

Yes I think there were some 150's there. I was mainly looking at air-cooled. Are you interested in something like that?
As for the valves I'll have to check that out.

[timg]

Yes I think there were some 150's there. I was mainly looking at air-cooled. Are you interested in something like that?
As for the valves I'll have to check that out. Don't forget the Suzuki FXR/Raider 150 while you are there :msn-wink: Cheers.

[Bert]

Are there any KR150 engines available?

Kips or Super Kips power valve


Yes I think there were some 150's there. I was mainly looking at air-cooled. Are you interested in something like that?
As for the valves I'll have to check that out.

I think you will find there is quite a nice little market here for KR150 and RG150 (maybe not as much as 3-5 years ago).. Especially Barrels,head, cranks and maybe even carbs.

17' wheels could also be useful; but from memory most little bikes over there have real skinny wheels. Did the honda NS-1 ever make it that far south>???

[koba]

but from memory most little bikes over there have real skinny wheels.

Crossplies!

[husaberg]

Keep an eye out for any NSR150's or NSR125 would ya if the price is right.

[Ric]

Don't forget the Suzuki FXR/Raider 150 while you are there :msn-wink: Cheers.

I'll keep an eye out.
I don't know what you guys pay for parts over there in NZ but I bought a new set of rings for my Suzuki yesterday and it was the equivalent of NZ$ 6.00.

[Ric]

Keep an eye out for any NSR150's or NSR125 would ya if the price is right.

There are a few nsr 150's around but not sure about the 125's.

[RDjase]

Yes I think there were some 150's there. I was mainly looking at air-cooled. Are you interested in something like that?
As for the valves I'll have to check that out.

Yep, KR150, If you see any find out what the availability and $ are please, There are casting numbers on the bottom of the cylinders, 1779, 1855 and 18?? might be 1828

RG150 as well if there are any, there are heaps of RG150's in the south island, would be more if there was some more engines

Are there any water cooled 100cc versions of KR's?

[Bert]

There are a few nsr 150's around but not sure about the 125's.
Don't they have 2.5-3.5 17' wheels?


Are there any water cooled 100cc versions of KR's?

Kawasaki AR80 LC???

Ric; I'd be interest in any TZR/TZM/TD?? 125/150 engine bits.

[Ric]

Yep, KR150, If you see any find out what the availability and $ are please, There are casting numbers on the bottom of the cylinders, 1779, 1855 and 18?? might be 1828

RG150 as well if there are any, there are heaps of RG150's in the south island, would be more if there was some more engines

Are there any water cooled 100cc versions of KR's?

What do the casting No's signify?

[Ric]

Don't they have 2.5-3.5 17' wheels?



Kawasaki AR80 LC???

Ric; I'd be interest in any TZR/TZM/TD?? 125/150 engine bits.

TZR 125's or 150's?

[Bert]

TZR 125's or 150's?

Yamaha TZR125 or Yamaha TDM150.
either or. engine parts are generally interchangeable. the 150 barrels would be good my another project other than bucket racing.

[RDjase]

What do the casting No's signify?

There is two different Super Kips engines (I think) and the early Kips engine. BUT I have got a 1995 Thai model with a Super Kips 1778 and a 1998 NZ model with the early Kips engine. Bit random with the engines and what went into what bike. Maybe two model 1855 as well, one has a O-Ring head

Trying to figure out what is what in via Thai and Jap site

[Ric]

There is two different Super Kips engines (I think) and the early Kips engine. BUT I have got a 1995 Thai model with a Super Kips 1778 and a 1998 NZ model with the early Kips engine. Bit random with the engines and what went into what bike. Maybe two model 1855 as well, one has a O-Ring head

Trying to figure out waht is what in via Thai and Jap site

Thanks for clarifying. I'll see if I can find out anymore here.

[Ric]

Don't they have 2.5-3.5 17' wheels?



Kawasaki AR80 LC???

Ric; I'd be interest in any TZR/TZM/TD?? 125/150 engine bits.

I'm not too familiar with these bikes but I'm told there are plenty around. Let us know what you're looking for specifically.

[Ric]

Don't they have 2.5-3.5 17' wheels?



Kawasaki AR80 LC???

Ric; I'd be interest in any TZR/TZM/TD?? 125/150 engine bits.

I don't think the wheels will be too hard to find.

[Bert]

I'm not too familiar with these bikes but I'm told there are plenty around. Let us know what you're looking for specifically.

Hi Ric.

I'm mainly interested in engine parts; namely cranks, cylinders and heads (and any condition accepted). entire motors would be great but hard to ship.
quite a number of the small yamahas (TZR, DTR, TDM etc.) all run the ~ same casings and internals.
I'll shoot you my email address and we can discuss this further.

Cheers
Brent

[Ric]

Yep, KR150, If you see any find out what the availability and $ are please, There are casting numbers on the bottom of the cylinders, 1779, 1855 and 18?? might be 1828

RG150 as well if there are any, there are heaps of RG150's in the south island, would be more if there was some more engines

Are there any water cooled 100cc versions of KR's?

I saw some KR's yesterday. The casting no's were 1779, 1724 and 1855. The engine is about $NZ170, or can get cylinder head and barrel for $90 pre shipping cost.

[Ric]

Don't they have 2.5-3.5 17' wheels?



Kawasaki AR80 LC???

Ric; I'd be interest in any TZR/TZM/TD?? 125/150 engine bits.

Some tzr and tzm 150's available. Engine about $NZ 160. Cylinder head and barrel $NZ 85 before freight costs.

[husaberg]

Some tzr and tzm 150's available. Engine about $NZ 160. Cylinder head and barrel $NZ 85 before freight costs.

What sort of money gets you a NSR150 engine or bottom end?

[Farmaken]

Hey I`m interested in the Suzook trs/trz 125`s

Cheers ken

[Ric]

What sort of money gets you a NSR150 engine or bottom end?


I'll find out about the nsr's for you.

[Ric]

Hey I`m interested in the Suzook trs/trz 125`s

Cheers ken

There are afew around. What are you looking for?

[Farmaken]

Complete engine and/or top end - what is the difference between the two ??( tsr vs trz ) or is that Drz in which case I like the two stroke trs , cheers.

[Ric]

Complete engine and/or top end - what is the difference between the two ??( tsr vs trz ) or is that Drz in which case I like the two stroke trs , cheers.

Doesn't seem to be much difference in trz and trs. Maybe 1 was slightly earlier than the other. The heads look a little different but I'll try and find out if they're interchangable, because it'll suit me if they are.

[Ric]

Are there any KR150 engines available?

Kips or Super Kips power valve

I went down the other day a I can get those valves for about $20 (maybe haggle for a bit less) but how do you know if they're working or not?

[Ric]

the Kawasaki AR80 might interest the Two stroke developers.
AS too the Suzuki RGV125's (Pre1995-1997; with the USD forks).

Have seen a few rgv 150's but haven't seen any 125's or USD forks yet.

[Ric]

Don't forget the Suzuki FXR/Raider 150 while you are there :msn-wink: Cheers.

Haven't seen any FXR's yet but will keep looking.

[Ric]

I think you will find there is quite a nice little market here for KR150 and RG150 (maybe not as much as 3-5 years ago).. Especially Barrels,head, cranks and maybe even carbs.

17' wheels could also be useful; but from memory most little bikes over there have real skinny wheels. Did the honda NS-1 ever make it that far south>???

Crankshafts around $35, Carbs about $20

[Ric]

Keep an eye out for any NSR150's or NSR125 would ya if the price is right.

NSR's have only seen 150's. RC valves around $20.

[Ric]

I'll find out about the nsr's for you.

About $160 for the engine but shipping may not be easy. Crank about $35 bits and pieces fairly cheap

[Henk]

FXRs use the same engine as the 150 raider if that helps.

[husaberg]

About $160 for the engine but shipping may not be easy. Crank about $35 bits and pieces fairly cheap

I really wouldn't mind a head or two and maybe a gearbox the shipping is the real scary part.

[Ric]

I really wouldn't mind a head or two and maybe a gearbox the shipping is the real scary part.

I think I can get heads for about $35. Shipping on that wouldn't be too bad. They're quite light.

[husaberg]

I think I can get heads for about $35. Shipping on that wouldn't be too bad. They're quite light.


mmmmmmmm..........

[Ric]

mmmmmmmm..........

To give you an idea on the shipping costs. It's about $35 for the first kilo and goes up about $15 per kilo from there. That's going with the local post office.
DHL. TNT etc don't cover this area but yesterday I found a local courier who works in with FedEx. I called FedEx and their charge was almost exactly double the above rates, so the options are limited.

[gammaguy]

i want some RG150 engines

let me know what you can do for me

[gav]

Has anyone on here dealt with Akunar ? http://www.akunar.com/
Are they usually pretty slow to ship stuff?

[Henk]

Have bought off them in the past. Turned up in about two weeks if memory serves.

[Bert]

Has anyone on here dealt with Akunar ? http://www.akunar.com/
Are they usually pretty slow to ship stuff?

Email them (Ranuka) directly; you can go through here: http://www.akunar.com/AKUNAR_CONTACT.htm
it helps with getting a better deal and/or faster response.
They don't always have some of the stuff on the webpage; then they go into sleep mode unless you harass them...


Have bought off them in the past. Turned up in about two weeks if memory serves.
There shipping is pretty good once they actually find the stock and ship it....

Here's another group for that side of the world:
http://www.automotivespartsshop.com/
http://www.facebook.com/automotivespartsshop (while I can't stand facebook they have some interesting photos)
Mainly four stroke stuff.

[Ric]

i want some RG150 engines

let me know what you can do for me

I'll have alook and see what's around. Give me a couple of days

[Bert]

first little package arrived today from Thailand.

Great little Barrel & Head, real good nick and it actually fits the casing; (even with being from completely different factories and bikes)....

Thanks Ric; challenge is now to find me another one :2thumbsup

[Ric]

first little package arrived today from Thailand.

Great little Barrel & Head, real good nick and it actually fits the casing; (even with being from completely different factories and bikes)....

Thanks Ric; challenge is now to find me another one :2thumbsup

Glad you're pleased.
I'll start looking for another one. Do you want the same parts plus valve and servo?
If it's hard to find are you interested in Tzr. I know there's a few of them around.

[RDjase]

Have you got any pics of the wrecking yards?

I found some on a Jap site and it was huge, rows and rows of bike outside then a warehouse full off parts too

[speights_bud]

Hiya, whereabouts are you located? as far as i have researched the Tyga Performance factory is located at the address below. I'm planning a trip over later next year but do you know anything about them or if its possible to go directly to the factory?

285/95 Moo5, Soi Naklua 16 Naklua, Banglamung, near Huai Yai, Bang Lamung, Chon Buri, Thailand

Cheers
Paddy

[Ric]

Have you got any pics of the wrecking yards?

I found some on a Jap site and it was huge, rows and rows of bike outside then a warehouse full off parts too

The place here probablly isnt as big as the Jap one. It's a village in the middle of nowhere that has turned into a recycling centre. About 8 bike yards with 60 - 120 bikes in each. I tried posting some photos but couldn't for some reason. If you email me I could send you some.

[Ric]

Hiya, whereabouts are you located? as far as i have researched the Tyga Performance factory is located at the address below. I'm planning a trip over later next year but do you know anything about them or if its possible to go directly to the factory?

285/95 Moo5, Soi Naklua 16 Naklua, Banglamung, near Huai Yai, Bang Lamung, Chon Buri, Thailand

Cheers
Paddy

I'll see what I can find out about Tyga and whether it's possible to get into the factory.

[speights_bud]

Awesome, top man :)

[Ric]

i want some RG150 engines

let me know what you can do for me

Hi, Finally found rg 150 yesterday, they're becoming few and far between. Engine $170 or $ 270 for whole bike.
Ric

[Ric]

Awesome, top man :)

I'm having trouble getting a hold of these people but will keep trying. One thing they seem to worry about is industrial spies believe it or not.

[speights_bud]

I'm having trouble getting a hold of these people but will keep trying. One thing they seem to worry about is industrial spies believe it or not.

Cheers :) I thought they might not appreciate people dropping into said factory due to such reasons. esp ones who might just want a few cheap parts...

Thanks for putting in the effort too :)

[Ric]

Are there any KR150 engines available?

Kips or Super Kips power valve

Last week I saw anRG 150 and a KR 150 sitting side by side. Engines about $170.

[Clivoris]

Last week I saw anRG 150 and a KR 150 sitting side by side. Engines about $170.

Haha.
Jase has suddenly grown out of the need for a KR150 engine, but I haven't. Which casting number is the cyclone (o-ring) engine Jase? I would be a very happy man if I could get one with a carb.
Regards,
Clive

[RDjase]

Haha.
Jase has suddenly grown out of the need for a KR150 engine, but I haven't. Which casting number is the cyclone (o-ring) engine Jase? I would be a very happy man if I could get one with a carb.
Regards,
Clive

1855, the cylinder is a dark charcoal colour, head a bit darker and the Super Kips cover are a light gold colour. Thats the Cyclone engine out of a 2001 ZSR150, KR150F on the frame.
Carb is the same by the look of it, think we had a 142 main and bigger pilot jet in the ZSR. Ignition, flywheel and pipe are different than KR

The other Super Kips engine has 1779 on it and is light silver on cylinder, head and Super Kips covers


Last week I saw anRG 150 and a KR 150 sitting side by side. Engines about $170.

My son is racing a RS125 now, have sold one of the KR's, not sure if I want to sell the other one just yet. Its so much fun racing Clive in the "Battle of the Dads"

Still keen on a water cooled 100cc/AR80? Kwaka in a TZR frame for a bucket

[Ric]

1855, the cylinder is a dark charcoal colour, head a bit darker and the Super Kips cover are a light gold colour. Thats the Cyclone engine out of a 2001 ZSR150, KR150F on the frame.
Carb is the same by the look of it, think we had a 142 main and bigger pilot jet in the ZSR. Ignition, flywheel and pipe are different than KR

The other Super Kips engine has 1779 on it and is light silver on cylinder, head and Super Kips covers



My son is racing a RS125 now, have sold one of the KR's, not sure if I want to sell the other one just yet. Its so much fun racing Clive in the "Battle of the Dads"

Still keen on a water cooled 100cc/AR80? Kwaka in a TZR frame for a bucket

I've seen several with 1779 stamped on them over here.

[Ric]

Hey I`m interested in the Suzook trs/trz 125`s

Cheers ken

I've got a TRZ 125 (same as GP) head for $25 if you want it. In standard condition as far as I can tell.

[Bert]

latest parcel arrived today.

Thats some quick shipping mate.

great cylinder; look forward to converting it to 100cc as a good spare.

Cheers
Brent

[Ric]

latest parcel arrived today.

Thats some quick shipping mate.

great cylinder; look forward to converting it to 100cc as a good spare.

Cheers
Brent

That's great. Hope it all goes well mate.
Cheers, Ric

[Neal]

Hi Ric ,

are you still able to get some spares ? Looking for some 150 barrels and heads please .

cheers , Neal

[Ric]

Hi Ric ,

are you still able to get some spares ? Looking for some 150 barrels and heads please .

cheers , Neal

There are a few nsr's in the wrecking yards. I'm going out next Mon or Tues.

[August]

I was doing a search and came across this forum, it's the only place outside of Asia that seems to knowledgeable on the 150 2Ts.

I don't suppose anyone here is familiar with both the KR150 engines and KDX200/220 engines? Both these bikes were made in Thailand, they have a few matching parts but I'd be really keen to find out further info on what matches.

[August]

How many post are required for sending PMs?

[quallman1234]

How many post are required for sending PMs?

10 i believe.

I have a KDX200 (Same as the 220). Pretty easy to get parts for them as they are very common.

We have a fair few 150's here in new zealand. More RG150's than KR150's however thats kinda going the other way as the KR's are more robust and the RG150's are slowly dwiddling away.

[ajturbo]

Any word on the 150 fxr/raidar?

[August]

10 i believe.

I have a KDX200 (Same as the 220). Pretty easy to get parts for them as they are very common.

We have a fair few 150's here in new zealand. More RG150's than KR150's however thats kinda going the other way as the KR's are more robust and the RG150's are slowly dwiddling away.

I'm in Thailand we're the KDX isn't so common but there are plenty of KR150s. Although the clutch baskets are different, the plates are the same size. Would be good to know if any major parts are interchangeable, save me a lot of time and money buying stuff from overseas.

[koba]

I'm in Thailand we're the KDX isn't so common but there are plenty of KR150s. Although the clutch baskets are different, the plates are the same size. Would be good to know if any major parts are interchangeable, save me a lot of time and money buying stuff from overseas.

You may have some luck if you can get a parts manual for both bikes and work off the numbers.

[August]

You may have some luck if you can get a parts manual for both bikes and work off the numbers.

The KDX microfiche is online, but no luck with the KR, can't find a parts manual.

[August]

Last week I saw anRG 150 and a KR 150 sitting side by side. Engines about $170.

Ric, I wanted to PM you, but don't have enough posts. I have some info that might help you, so if you can PM me I'll let you know.

[August]

Are the 150s being used for racing or road riding?

[Pumba]

Are the 150s being used for racing or road riding?

150 here in NZ are being used for both. We have a class here called streetstock which is dominated by RG's and KR's.

As the class name suggests, very little modification from the road base model is allowed.

[August]

Are you allowed to use aftermarket expansion chambers or cdi?

[speights_bud]

Are you allowed to use aftermarket expansion chambers or cdi?

Nope, rules are here if ya want a read:

http://mnz.edev.co.nz/docs/rules/2012_moms_chapter_22_road_racing.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Chapter 22.11

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/regulations/rules/general-rules

[August]

That's a shame, light weight racing pipes and CDIs are available over here.

[Bert]

That's a shame, light weight racing pipes and CDIs are available over here.

But it has made the class good fun and close for those involved.

Aftermarket CDIs (I'm assuming they are programmable and come with their own software); BST, Cheater, rexton etc.

what are they worth?

[speights_bud]

That's a shame, light weight racing pipes and CDIs are available over here.

Yea theres alot of work that could be done to the engines but its primarily an entry level class for our young riders to start in with somewhat evenly matched bikes ie takes the checkbook out of the equation for the youngin's

[August]

Yea theres alot of work that could be done to the engines but its primarily an entry level class for our young riders to start in with somewhat evenly matched bikes ie takes the checkbook out of the equation for the youngin's

That's true. I managed to find a parts catalogue for the KR150 http://www.scribd.com/doc/30455888/KAWASAKI-KR-150-parts-catalog

[August]

Aftermarket CDIs (I'm assuming they are programmable and come with their own software); BST, Cheater, rexton etc.

what are they worth?

I'm not sure of the prices, but they aren't programmable or anything too fancy.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Nope, rules are here if ya want a read:

http://mnz.edev.co.nz/docs/rules/2012_moms_chapter_22_road_racing.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Chapter 22.11

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/regulations/rules/general-rules

I must be reading a different set of rules than you

"There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor,
ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs or cooling system except for class
eligibility"

[August]

I must be reading a different set of rules than you

"There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor,
ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs or cooling system except for class
eligibility"

I think he was referring to this:
Streetstock is open to any street type road registerable mass production
machine up to 150cc of any make available or sold or on sale in New Zealand,
in standard specification, except for carburetor jetting and external gearing.

[Sketchy_Racer]

I think he was referring to this:
Streetstock is open to any street type road registerable mass production
machine up to 150cc of any make available or sold or on sale in New Zealand,
in standard specification, except for carburetor jetting and external gearing.

Ahh, pays to read all the posts, I though we were talking about buckets. :sleep:

[F5 Dave]

Pah! that's Quitters talk. Take a note from the Husi school of posting & just argue on:lol:

[Ric]

Any word on the 150 fxr/raidar?

Sorry man, haven't come across anything yet.

[husaberg]

Pah! that's Quitters talk. Take a note from the Husi school of posting & just argue on:lol:

Bacon powder.....

Shit how can i argue with that :cry:

I er..... read what the rules actually say. As opposed to what you think they mean.:innocent:

I would have thought, though, seeing as you have a Honda, you would be a lot nicer.

http://www.ohiocycle.com/honda.gif