Regular learner rider cruise - Christchurch

[torican]

Date 24 June 2012 @ 11am
Location Meet at BK Moorhouse Carpark
Run: Moorhouse to Lyttelton, round bays to Gebbies Pass, up to Sign of the Kiwi, down Dyers road for coffee/lunch at zeebos cafe (next to PMH)

Interested in fortnightly social rides at a cruisy pace... all welcome but aimed at learner riders.. Different run each fortnight?


Who's keen?

[yoyo 2wheels]

if the weathers nice, yup yup

[Asher]

Defiantly:niceone:

[torican]

Sweet... great to see interest thus far... feel free to pm me your cell or email and ill keep ya posted

Fingers crossed weather holds out!!

[Razzzz]

I will be a starter if its fine.:chase:

[Cochise4]

I would be keen for this weather dependent. If you can pm me your email address I can send you my contact details via email.

[CUMBRIAN]

yeah defo my learning curve gone flat not having any playmates anymore .

[Box of riddles]

Keen.

fucken10char

[Subike]

interesting bunch of people here

[SMOKEU]

I might be keen. I don't really trust myself over the hills in winter with all the gravel though. I still don't know how to brake properly on slippery surfaces.

[torican]

I might be keen. I don't really trust myself over the hills in winter with all the gravel though. I still don't know how to brake properly on slippery surfaces.

Mmm fair point... I had not had any issues personally as I kept off the built up areas and combined gears with braking but we could change run if people prefer? I'm going to cruise over to akaroa this Sunday... will see how the hills are then :)

[SMOKEU]

I'm going to cruise over to akaroa this Sunday... will see how the hills are then :)

You're brave.

[brp]

I might be keen. I don't really trust myself over the hills in winter with all the gravel though. I still don't know how to brake properly on slippery surfaces.

Can braking on black ice be done ? Would have thought you would have to be advanced advanced to pull that one off.

Did run in mid arvo month ago kiwi, gebbies, port levy. With the combo of black ice , boy racer diesel, ten speeds, between kiwi and gebbies and the cold from gebbies to port levy was enough to throw the knobblies on next day and stay off road for winter.

Talk about starting in the deep end :blink:

[SMOKEU]

Can braking on black ice be done ? Would have thought you would have to be advanced advanced to pull that one off.

Did run in mid arvo month ago kiwi, gebbies, port levy. With the combo of black ice , boy racer diesel, ten speeds, between kiwi and gebbies and the cold from gebbies to port levy was enough to throw the knobblies on next day and stay off road for winter.

Talk about starting in the deep end :blink:

That's exactly why I avoid mountainous roads like the plague during winter months. It's not really worth the risk. I stick to the straight and boring roads during winter.

[brp]

Yeah and to avoid having to brake on slippery surfaces in the location in question in the middle of winter what speed would you have to ride at ?


Would it be safer riding round the bays with the sea air having a rumble with jack frost ?

[Subike]

Maybe you guys should think.
Why do the regular Wednesday night KB rides only run during daylight saving ?
Safety, no other reason really.
Grit, ice, wet roads, Diesel spills, fogged up cage windows, wind gusts , all are very prevalent around banks peninsula over the winter season.
Yes it is safe to ride those roads with experience, caution and at a speed that reflects the conditions.
As a solo rider aware of the conditions.
But to ride as a group, learners , small light road bikes, sorry guys, that's a sure fired recipe for disaster.

I ponderd upon joining you all, then seriously thought, no way.
I dont want to be the one calling the helichopper pulling your 250 out of the bush, knocking on your families front door with sad news.

Guys, please think long and hard about group riding hills at this time of the year.

[brp]

Like that route in summer on a weekday, find too many cages etc in weekend to have decent blast.

To fuel the winter hunger what about joining canterbury motorcycle club and racing round Ruapuna ? - Two years ago
some KB'ers were doing club practice for $25 , got to race round decent amount of times.

[Fast Eddie]

lol or if you live in dunedin now and there is just ice and grit everywhere your thankful that u rode the port hills all year round when u lived in chch ;)

if u go up there aware that there is ice n grit you'll learn how to muscle the bike through it.. can only help u for future sticky or slippery situations I recon.

I don't fall off that much eh (touch wood.. about to go out now and its mighty slipper out)

[Subike]

lol or if you live in dunedin now and there is just ice and grit everywhere your thankful that u rode the port hills all year round when u lived in chch ;)

if u go up there aware that there is ice n grit you'll learn how to muscle the bike through it.. can only help u for future sticky or slippery situations I recon.

I don't fall off that much eh (touch wood.. about to go out now and its mighty slipper out)

Hey Eddie, I understand you to the max,
Riding year round, regardless of the conditions, sure does give you the learn.
I myself ride Banks Peninsula as often as possible. and yup dealing with the conditions is a big part of the enjoyment.
Ride those hills in summer with a group can be a great time, when you know the others enough to feel comfortable having them around you.
This suggested ride, differs, it is not experienced riders, but learners, as a group, riding in less than preferable conditions at best, in winter.
They would be better doing it solo, or if as a group thing, 5 min apart, thus riding inside their ability.
The summit road on a Sunday , in the middle of winter, is a very pleasant ride indeed
especially after a good mornings frost

[yoyo 2wheels]

god i wouldnt even be riding a bike at all if i listen to what every one said.....
i wouldnt of gone to the brass monkey if i was worried about all the laughing i had to put up with....
we all have to learn some where....
even when it does go all tits up i still have a big stupid grin on my face...
:Punk:

[brp]

People only saying cause they give a shit.

[Cochise4]

I'm keen for the ride but not so keen for the hills in winter so would a ride out to Little River and back (via Halswell) for a coffee be a better idea?

[SMOKEU]

I'm keen for the ride but not so keen for the hills in winter so would a ride out to Little River and back (via Halswell) for a coffee be a better idea?

That sounds like a sensible idea.

[Asher]

I will be coming into town through the hills so i could help decide on the morning if we are asking for trouble taking that route.

[torican]

I will be coming into town through the hills so i could help decide on the morning if we are asking for trouble taking that route.

Thanks Asher - Might take you up on this.... Whilst I appreciate and understand the concerns of the more experienced riders offering safety advice, my intention of listing this event was to give newer riders a chance at social runs but given the space to ride at a pace that suits them best instead of pushing beyond there individual limits just to keep up.

I'm all for minimizing risk to ensure I can get home in one piece to see my kids but at the same time I ride with the knowledge that things can seriously go wrong in a big way.

Im happy either way.. weather this week has been a bit dismal thus far... How bout we take a vote on the day?

[yoyo 2wheels]

iv just been for a ticky tour over that way, tricky, gritty, wet, some of those corners havnt seen sun for a few months, i had no problems, but any learners that has only done couple thousand k's i fully wouldnt recomend it!!

[Cochise4]

I had to go over Gebbies Pass for work today and I think i'll give the hills a miss this Sunday. It wasn't too bad but enough grit etc still on the road that I will pass. I might still turn up at 11:30 tho to at least meet people.

[gloplg]

Thanks Asher - Might take you up on this.... Whilst I appreciate and understand the concerns of the more experienced riders offering safety advice, my intention of listing this event was to give newer riders a chance at social runs but given the space to ride at a pace that suits them best instead of pushing beyond there individual limits just to keep up.

I'm all for minimizing risk to ensure I can get home in one piece to see my kids but at the same time I ride with the knowledge that things can seriously go wrong in a big way.

Im happy either way.. weather this week has been a bit dismal thus far... How bout we take a vote on the day?

As has been said, the people advising caution care about you newby riders. None of us want to see any of our motorcyclist/s hurt. However without the odd "butt clenching" moments nobody (particularly me) learns anything. The old one about experience being gained five seconds after it's needed still holds true.

You guys ride wherever you want to, but ride carefully. The Summit Road is a great teacher. If you concentrate on the 10 to 100 metres of road ahead of you and ride within your skills/experience you will have a good ride. Tight twisty roads teach cornering skills and isn't conning a bike along a tight winding road where "motorcycling heaven" starts.:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

Have a good ride wherever you go. I will be envious of you while I am working.

And don't forget Wednesday Night Maintenance Evening, 4th July 6pm Wofman's place Gloucester Motors, Gloucester/Fitzgerald. See you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[neels]

Just been for a drive along the summit road from sign of the kiwi to sign of the bellbird today, pretty much the whole way is covered in grit. I wouldn't be taking my bike up there for a ride just for fun, it was bad enough going around corners in the car.

[Transalper]

....pretty much the whole way is covered in grit. I wouldn't be taking my bike up there for a ride just for fun.....:Oi:...DRZ man !! Enjoy the challenge, I would be... and drop down Worsleys too.

I know, I know, sometimes you just want a nice relaxing ride and ice n grit isn't that.

Had half an eye on this ride but now I might be doing the River/beach ride from Leithfield to Waipara mentioned in the Adventure Forum (but should be in the 'off road forum' this Sunday instead.

Have a nice time and take care what ever you decide. Hoping to see some more blue sky out... fingers crossed.

[gloplg]

Went for a stroll over to Gebbies via the Summit road today. From discussions on this thread it sounded as if the grit was ankle deep so I just had to go and have a look for myself. I went Dyers Pass, Summit Road to Gebbies. Rear tyre is getting thin, picked up some glass, oh bugger super low profile tyre.

The worst part of the road gritwise was Dyers Pass Road. Once I was past the Sign of The Kiwi, on the Summit Road, the grit started to disappear and by the second cattlestop, about a K or so, there wasn't any. The road was clear until after I turned off down Gebbies Pass, on The Blue Duck side, where there was a small amount of grit.

If you guys want to ride the Summit Road I would suggest going the way I did, if you can make it to the Sign of The Kiwi, you will be over the worst of the grit. What you will face is damp roads where the "sun don't shine". So take it slowly. I went over about midday and there was no ice. If Sunday is similar to today you should be ok icewise.

Travel safely and roll on WNR!!!!!!!!!!!!

[torican]

I'm really gutted to say that i won't be joining in tomorrow....

I was following a nana today who was indicating left who then decided to not only swing wide into my path but also slammed brakes on to use the old give way rules....

I had two choices... hit her or the road - chose the road to cushion impact and have broken my thumb/wrist in 3 places :( Thank god for decent safety gear or I would have been munted!!

Ride safe out there guys... will be back on road once insurance pays out and bones heal.

[Peeteey]

I'm really gutted to say that i won't be joining in tomorrow....

I was following a nana today who was indicating left who then decided to not only swing wide into my path but also slammed brakes on to use the old give way rules....

I had two choices... hit her or the road - chose the road to cushion impact and have broken my thumb/wrist in 3 places :( Thank god for decent safety gear or I would have been munted!!

Ride safe out there guys... will be back on road once insurance pays out and bones heal.

Eek, glad you're ok! Love those little old ladies ... and insurance!

[Asher]

Well waited for awhile and only one other person turned up. I rode through the hills by myself anyway and they were really wet and covered in grit so no one really missed out.

[Cochise4]

I got the time wrong (for some reason had 11:30am in my mind!). Would be keen to meet and go for a ride in a couple of weeks.

[yoyo 2wheels]

i forgot... then buy the time i remembered it was to late :-(

[gloplg]

Hey folks don't forget 4th July, Wednesday Maintenance Evening, 6.00pm Wofman's place Gloucester/Fitzgerald.

[gloplg]

Thanks Beamer89 for turning up last night.:niceone::niceone: And thanks Wofman for the use of your workshop.:niceone::niceone:

It seems the maintenance evenings arn't what they were!!!!:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Folks if you want us to continue with the maintenance evenings please let us know!!

[yoyo 2wheels]

any one out and about tomorrow? weathers lookin pritty mint apart from a lil morning frost

[CUMBRIAN]

I will be up for ride out went out this avo played in lyttleton tunnel and out t govners bay. still a bit slape int shade but all good other than that.

[yoyo 2wheels]

I will be up for ride out went out this avo played in lyttleton tunnel and out t govners bay. still a bit slape int shade but all good other than that.

a learner on an r6...?

[CUMBRIAN]

yip why not ? i wanted an r1 or a 996 but the rego rules here made it expensive (i hadnt started work when i was looking for bike)

[brp]

Why didn't ya go for it ? Same price to rego a r1 or a 996 as a r6

[SMOKEU]

Anyone here going out for a ride this afternoon?

[rossirep]

do you guys/girls really ride at this time of year..?? fark that your crazy..........

[Box of riddles]

do you guys/girls really ride at this time of year..?? fark that your crazy..........

I finished a 2000km trip up to tauraunga on my drz, easy as.

[onearmedbandit]

yip why not ? i wanted an r1 or a 996 but the rego rules here made it expensive (i hadnt started work when i was looking for bike)

I'd like to think you're just trolling.

[Subike]

do you guys/girls really ride at this time of year..?? fark that your crazy..........

what planet you on?
Today was a perfect day for riding.
2 friends and I decided to go to Akaroa.
We passed probably 50 bikes going there and back,
Many more were parked up at Little River.
The road was clean, dry and traffic was light compared to summer time.

Yesterday was a bit cooler, but a ride was taken, wearing the right gear.
A distance of 300k's, good fun

And everyday last week was fun in the rain drizzle and fog.
The weather enforces you to be more aware, teaches you to observe the road surfaces with a more critical eye.
Winter riding just tones your senses, reflexes and skills, and you fast learn what the back brake is there for.

So that when those stinking hot days of summer, when your sweating in your leathers, becoming dehydrated and dodging land snails,
At least you know how to avoid the crap, can see the gaps, and know the roads are more congested than those glorious frosty mornings....

[rossirep]

what planet you on?
Today was a perfect day for riding.
2 friends and I decided to go to Akaroa.
We passed probably 50 bikes going there and back,
Many more were parked up at Little River.
The road was clean, dry and traffic was light compared to summer time.

Yesterday was a bit cooler, but a ride was taken, wearing the right gear.
A distance of 300k's, good fun

And everyday last week was fun in the rain drizzle and fog.
The weather enforces you to be more aware, teaches you to observe the road surfaces with a more critical eye.
Winter riding just tones your senses, reflexes and skills, and you fast learn what the back brake is there for.

So that when those stinking hot days of summer, when your sweating in your leathers, becoming dehydrated and dodging land snails,
At least you know how to avoid the crap, can see the gaps, and know the roads are more congested than those glorious frosty mornings....

look mr learner rider on ya shitty arse 250. iv done many many many years of riding in winter just cause i had to, now days my bike sits in my garage during the shit house winter months getting pimped out so i can gear up and enjoy riding on nice hot days in summer that my bike was made for. when i know there is no wet courners that aint seen the sun in weeks or bends covered in shinggle.

sure today may have been somewhat nice for a winters day but its still cold and crap out there, and the thought of going for a ride around the hills to akaroa doesnt make me wanna take my bike out for a blast thats for sure, maybe a slow ride to lil river for a coffee maybe.. but akaroa.. no thanks, not my thing..

but you keep riding in winter and getting your skills up and come summer you should be the man on the mighty keeway.. so yeah thats what planet im on. ;-)

[gloplg]

look mr learner rider on ya shitty arse 250. iv done many many many years of riding in winter just cause i had to, now days my bike sits in my garage during the shit house winter months getting pimped out so i can gear up and enjoy riding on nice hot days in summer that my bike was made for. when i know there is no wet courners that aint seen the sun in weeks or bends covered in shinggle.

sure today may have been somewhat nice for a winters day but its still cold and crap out there, and the thought of going for a ride around the hills to akaroa doesnt make me wanna take my bike out for a blast thats for sure, maybe a slow ride to lil river for a coffee maybe.. but akaroa.. no thanks, not my thing..

but you keep riding in winter and getting your skills up and come summer you should be the man on the mighty keeway.. so yeah thats what planet im on. ;-)

Tell me RR have you met Dave???? He has a number of decades riding bikes of all sizes. When I met him he was riding an 1100 shaft drive which he had customised. Just because he is currently riding a 250 with a L lable, don't think he is a beginner. That old begger can ride. I suggest you check my link at the bottom of this post and look at "Sunday Ride 12 02 12".

Do not make the mistake of underestimating Dave's riding ability!!!!!!!!!!!

And yes SB I'm brassed off I had to work today, I would have enjoyed a ride to Akaroa with you. Roll on WNR!!!

[CUMBRIAN]

I'd like to think you're just trolling.

Not too sure what you mean trolling? budget was massivly tight at the time even a hundred bucks made a big difference (still got a mortgage in uk) all good tho got a nice r6 and i love it

[Subike]

oh well
I'll I will say it that the XS1100 went very well today........:innocent:

[gloplg]

oh well
I'll I will say it that the XS1100 went very well today........:innocent:

You bad bad SB you

[rossirep]

You bad bad SB you

hahahahaha love the way SB dropped it at like 10kph coming into the right hander.. sorry fella ya video didnt show how awesome he is at riding, cool videos thou il give ya that.

[gloplg]

hahahahaha love the way SB dropped it at like 10kph coming into the right hander.. sorry fella ya video didnt show how awesome he is at riding, cool videos thou il give ya that.

Perhaps your knowledge of riding is not as good as you think it is.

The way you are coming across on this thread perhaps it is just as well you only ride on hot sunny days.

[rossirep]

Perhaps your knowledge of riding is not as good as you think it is.

The way you are coming across on this thread perhaps it is just as well you only ride on hot sunny days.



lucky for me i do only ride in summer then. ;-) but iv been riding on the road for the last 22 years so iv got nothing to prove to a bunch of internet key board biker wannabe gods.. so enjoy riding during winter and il give ya a beep when i see ya on the road in summer

[gloplg]

so enjoy riding during winter and il give ya a beep when i see ya on the road in summer

Thankyou for that RR. Perhaps you should try some winter riding it could add to your riding skills.

[brp]

lucky for me i do only ride in summer then. ;-) but iv been riding on the road for the last 22 years so iv got nothing to prove to a bunch of internet key board biker wannabe gods.. so enjoy riding during winter and il give ya a beep when i see ya on the road in summer

Action talks ! Come along to the WNR when daylight saving starts ........

[yoyo 2wheels]

i couldnt get over how many bikes were out, road was mint, apart from a lil gravel at the akaroa hill top then damp on the way back threw lyttleton.. but was a mint day !

[gloplg]

Action talks ! Come along to the WNR when daylight saving starts ........


i couldnt get over how many bikes were out, road was mint, apart from a lil gravel at the akaroa hill top then damp on the way back threw lyttleton.. but was a mint day !

Well said both of you:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[brp]

budget was massivly tight at the time even a hundred bucks made a big difference (still got a mortgage in uk) all good tho got a nice r6 and i love it

Done the real tight budget thing too - not place want to ever revisit.

Cheerz gloplg - found out yesterday when did that run to Akaroa in Feb prob had well over 50 lbs in both tyres - no wonder felt unstable and wobbly on greasy hill-top, cheap chinese gauge was showing 26lbs after airing up after going off trail but the digital gauge at shell belfast was showing 35.

Scored brand new UK made gauge last night for $15 - standard issue in Daimler/Jag tool kit :D didn't beat the bosch for nothing :niceone:

Watch out for those cheap chinese tyre gauges - good get one into lot of trouble ......

[rossirep]

Action talks ! Come along to the WNR when daylight saving starts ........

iv been on the WNR in the past and its not my thing. to many wannbe leaders there tryin to act like the "big kb dog" sit behind me, follow me, follow my lines, if you want advice ask me, blah blah blah...thats its off putting and if i was new to biking half the fuck heads on this site would put me off becoming a biker.

so i like to come on here wind up the geeky mofo's for a laugh and then ride with real non internet friends who like to ride the same way as me and have fun doing it with out all the PC crap that comes along with riding on the WNR

[gloplg]

Ok the weather looks good for the next couple of days, does anyone, apart from the last poster, want to go for a short ride???

[CUMBRIAN]

Ok the weather looks good for the next couple of days, does anyone, apart from the last poster, want to go for a short ride???

i would love t but got too sit in digger and knock stuff over that earthquake never

[gloplg]

i would love t but got too sit in digger and knock stuff over that earthquake never

Oh bugger!! Work the curse of the motorcycling class.

I was thinking tomorrow for a ride?????? Not Friday it's the 13th and I'm superstitious. Anyway it is supposed to rain.

[gloplg]

Done the real tight budget thing too - not place want to ever revisit.

Cheerz gloplg - found out yesterday when did that run to Akaroa in Feb prob had well over 50 lbs in both tyres - no wonder felt unstable and wobbly on greasy hill-top, cheap chinese gauge was showing 26lbs after airing up after going off trail but the digital gauge at shell belfast was showing 35.

Scored brand new UK made gauge last night for $15 - standard issue in Daimler/Jag tool kit :D didn't beat the bosch for nothing :niceone:

Watch out for those cheap chinese tyre gauges - good get one into lot of trouble ......

Hmmmmmmm. You mean next time we do Hilltop I'll have to keep left and let you past?????:wait::wait::wait::wait:

[brp]

"No need with that 4 hundie of yours - give lastest 4 hundies run for their money" :2thumbsup

[Transalper]

Summit Rd was still a little frosty last Sunday evening but is all good at the moment with all this warm wind and warm nights.
It is dry and almost as swept as in summer.
I've been doing night rides up there running in my engine after work this week.
Going to get some daylight riding including more laps of the Summit and round the bays now the weekend is here. :wavey:

[Transalper]

Fair bit of traffic up there today... saw some L plates among the bikes, also cars and cyclists as usual.
Got to watch out for those Motard riders though, the worst oncoming white line crosser was one of those taking up some of my lane. Still, I was ready for him so I moved further left and we past with room to spare.

ChCh looked a bit clouded in for a while from up top.

[brp]

Congrats on the new bike - was impressed with brother in-laws YZF250 when rode it, he's had a great run out of it and not the biggest on maintenance, done loads and loads of trail rides on it.


Went over diamond harbour yesterday (4 wheels) fine shingle on corners between Lyttelton and Governors ......

[Transalper]

Thanks, I like it a lot so far and when the Bashplate arrives I look forward to finding out what it's like up Bossu Rd, the Western Valley and the Waimak.
Just home for lunch and taking off some layers after running it out of gas (to the point of it starting to starve) to see what the best case for the big tank is. 377km on 13.19L.
Be interesting to see how that changes when I get some highway and more than half throttle.

What great weather.

[smithmZXR]

Hi,

I've just graduated from my L to restricted, but I am still quite new to riding. Have done CHCH to Akaroa a few times now. Just wondering if any casual rides going this weekend or if anyone knows any clubs that would be suitable?

Many thanks

Mike

[Jen]

Hi,

I've just graduated from my L to restricted, but I am still quite new to riding. Have done CHCH to Akaroa a few times now. Just wondering if any casual rides going this weekend or if anyone knows any clubs that would be suitable?

Many thanks

Mike

If the weather is fine I'm keen to get out, went around summit road yesterday arvo and it was fantastic, felt like spring and the road was clear, lot of hikers and cyclists as per usual. Will check in on Friday once we have a better idea what the weather is doing and make a meeting place.

cheers
Jen

[gloplg]

Wednesday 1st August 6.00 pm at Wofman's place Gloucester/Fitzgerald. Wednesday Maintenance Evening. All welcome.