Sidecars at Cemetery Circuit?

[nodrog]

Im doing some research and would like some feedback.

Do you think the sidecars at Wanganui are boring?

And would you still attend as a spectator if they were not there.

Edit - cool, a poll. tick a couple of boxes.

[MIXONE]

No I love watching them go sideways all over the place.
I would go either way.

[crazy man]

l do find them a bit of a bore. but years ago when the ozzys came over it was realy realy good racing very close and a heaps of them

[oneofsix]

love watching the sidecars, especially the classics . Don't go as often as I would like and would be less attracted without the sidecars but guess I would still go.

[Voltaire]

The queues to " have a go" at Taupo would suggest they are highly regarded.:woohoo:

[Kickaha]

They are like any class if they have reasonable numbers and close racing then they aren't boring, numbers they've had the last couple of years they've been a waste of time

They're a drawcard for me if they're running and If I was thinking of making the trip up I'd probably not bother if they weren't

[sidecar bob]

Id like to see as many people as possible vote on this purely for research purposes.
I wont get involved in discussion, lest my opinion appear to be biased.

[Maha]

When sidecars are on the track, its a good time to take a leak and buy a hotdog, doesn't have to be in that order though.:corn:
Could even spring for a bag of lollies...the track generally needs a clean up/sweep after they have been on anyway.

[Duke girl]

It's a shame that they wont be there for the 60th as sidecars have been part of the Cemetery Circuit for so long and to celebrate the 60th should involve those who have dedicated themselves to this event for many years. Why penalise the sidecars and not any other class. And when it comes to blaming them for dumping oil on the track so do 2 wheels. It's never done deliberately.
Just my 2c worth.

[scrivy]

Id like to see as many people as possible vote on this purely for research purposes.
I wont get involved in discussion, lest my opinion appear to be biased.

Pfftttt........... you're just a spectator when you're there anyway......:yes::shutup::facepalm:

[nodrog]

Well the research so far suggests 4 people are obviously abit queer.

[Pussy]

Mmmmmm..... Tracey and Jofesine! :)

[Kickaha]

. Why penalise the sidecars and not any other class. And when it comes to blaming them for dumping oil on the track so do 2 wheels. It's never done deliberately.
It's a numbers thing and the last couple of years the sidecars haven't put the numbers on the grid that they've said they would and the fields have been small

As far as dumping oil, in 12 years of racing them I've seen them do it about 4-5 timesin that period but I've also been at a few meetings where sidecars have been blamed for dropping oil when it was a Solo that did it, if a solo does it then it gets ignored if a sidecar does it we're never allowed to forget it

Biggest oil spill and subsequent delay in that period would be a tie between the Pirate at Hampton downs a couple of years back and a F3 bike back about 2001 at Ruapuna


Pfftttt........... you're just a spectator when you're there anyway......:yes::shutup::facepalm:
Well if you didn't ride like a pussy he wouldn't have so much time to look around

[rustic101]

My personal opinion is that the sidecars are the main reason I attend
they offer a different dynamic and level of excitement
It would be a real shame (IMHO) if they were to go
Love the classics

[sidecar bob]

With all due respect Kick, I believe your team twice promised to attend, but decided not to show at the last minute.
Its that kind of thing that makes it hard for all of us, not least of all the poor organisers who are trying to put on a class event & not look like fools themselves.
Bring a couple of chairs up this year, you have the power to help make this years event even better!!
We are all coming south for the nationals this year.

[sidecar bob]

Mmmmmm..... Tracey and Jofesine! :)

Hey!! thats my wife youre talking about bitch!! well one of them is. :niceone:

[Pussy]

Hey!! thats my wife youre talking about bitch!! well one of them is. :niceone:

I must buy a sympathy card for Tracey on your anniversary......

[Kickaha]

With all due respect Kick, I believe your team twice promised to attend, but decided not to show at the last minute.
Its that kind of thing that makes it hard for all of us, not least of all the poor organisers who are trying to put on a class event & not look like fools themselves.

No such promise was made, we made the decision not to attend 2010 at least 3 months out from the event as we were told we had to do the full tri series or we couldn't do any individual rounds, one week out from Wangas we were then told by the organisers we could enter Wanganui but by then we'd cancelled our accommodation and were looking at double the ferry costs due to late booking

2011 we didn't even consider doing it

Personally after the huge delays the last times we've been there (08/09)I consider it fairly poor value for money especially as we have added costs compared to every other sidecar team

[sidecar bob]

No such promise was made, we made the decision not to attend 2010 at least 3 months out from the event as we were told we had to do the full tri series or we couldn't do any individual rounds, one week out from Wangas we were then told by the organisers we could enter Wanganui but by then we'd cancelled our accommodation and were looking at double the ferry costs due to late booking

2011 we didn't even consider doing it

Personally after the huge delays the last times we've been there (08/09)I consider it fairly poor value for money especially as we have added costs compared to every other sidecar team

Then it would seem that a member of your team made promises to the NZSRA, for reasons unknown, that you clearly knew nothing about.

[Kickaha]

Then it would seem that a member of your team made promises to the NZSRA, for reasons unknown, that you clearly knew nothing about.

Regardless of what may or may not have been promised one extra sidecar still wouldn't have got the numbers to the twelve per round the organisers were promised

This might be just the kick up the arse a few people need to wake up and realise that as a class we're not indispensible and hopefully we can go forward in a much more productive way than the previous two years

[sidecar bob]

Regardless of what may or may not have been promised one extra sidecar still wouldn't have got the numbers to the twelve per round the organisers were promised


Yeah, thats the attitude, we adopted that stance when you guys had 5 outfits at your fake nationals down south a couple of years back.:bleh:

[scrivy]

Well if you didn't ride like a pussy he wouldn't have so much time to look around
Pfftt...... We won a race at the Creek 2 months back and he was still looking backwards waving at 2nd place...... I know this because I was watching...... :eek:


Yeah, thats the attitude, we adopted that stance when you guys ha 5 outfits at your fake nationals down south a couple of years back.:bleh:
:corn::facepalm:

[oldrider]

Been going a long time ... lost a good school friend there (Bill Linton x Woodville) in the late 50's, he was killed in a sidecar race!

[jellywrestler]

Been going a long time ... lost a good school friend there (Bill Linton x Woodville) in the late 50's, he was killed in a sidecar race!
Don't think Bill died at the Cemetery Circuit, think you'll find it was at the Motua Gardens circuit 1962??

[Kickaha]

Yeah, thats the attitude, we adopted that stance when you guys had 5 outfits at your fake nationals down south a couple of years back.:bleh:

Must be where you guys got the idea for your "extra" outfits for the Tri series and Paeroa :bleh:

[saul]

Love the sidecars. I always find them very exciting:niceone:

Have done a few have a go days and that has added to the interest.:drool:

[oldrider]

Don't think Bill died at the Cemetery Circuit, think you'll find it was at the Motua Gardens circuit 1962??

I was away overseas when it happened, always thought it was the cemetery circuit!

Thanks for that, Bill was a good guy we grew up in the same street, lost touch after leaving school. (As you do)

[codgyoleracer]

Personally i can take-em or leave-em.

Facts are tho, that a lot of JoBlo public look forward to seeing the three-wheeled trollies out there and the historical connection should not be forgotton.

Political clap-trap asside, I would stil like to see them participating , however i suspect that there are pressures on the organizers revolving around time/amount of classes and amount of attendees for the big 6 0 event ?

GW

[wayne]

with $200 mnz licences for a street race, it will be good to see how many want to update the extra $100 from a club licence

[Bykmad]

Wayne. Same for Nationals. Entries are low anyway, will be interesting to see if they are reduced even more.

[jellywrestler]

Wayne. Same for Nationals. Entries are low anyway, the statistics for the last few years at the nats have increased in nearly every class 18 superbikes for the first round last season and pretty well up in nearly all classes, beats me why what with the so called recession

[JayRacer37]

Yeah, thats the attitude, we adopted that stance when you guys had 5 outfits at your fake nationals down south a couple of years back.:bleh:

There were 6, Max and I did at least most of some of a round!

[Duke girl]

Just heard that the Modern sidecars will be competing at Wanganui Street Races this Boxing Day after all as long as they can get the numbers on the grid. I guess it is now up to the Riders and pillons to get their entries in and their sidecars on the circuit to make this happen. :clap::niceone:

[sidecar bob]

Just heard that the Modern sidecars will be competing at Wanganui Street Races this Boxing Day after all as long as they can get the numbers on the grid. I guess it is now up to the Riders and pillons to get their entries in and their sidecars on the circuit to make this happen. :clap::niceone:

Yes, Initially we were requested to provide twelve modern's, upon providing to the organisers, twelve names, addresses & machine types of those that wished to compete, the minimum number was then raised to fifteen, more than they sometimes have in superbikes.
It still may not go ahead, as fifteen is fairly ambitious.
Its a great time of year for adventure riding, so I for one wont be too crestfallen if we get bumped.
If moderns are excluded, several classics will be absent too.

[BMW_Pit_Chick]

Overheard a conversation in my house that sounded like a couple of guys who spent some time upside down last year :stupid: are keen to scare the crowd again......

[Fast Eddie]

can give them my name, address and machine if thats 1 more...

will do entry end of sept hopefully.