Tabbed Washer - Speedo Drive

[Akzle]

anyone got one? i've just been quoted 190$ for replacement unit ex-japan. all i want is a washer. just one washer!

failing that, anyone got bright ideas about an engineer that'd sort one out or a workshop i can borrow to do the same?

[imdying]

Go to a hardware store. They have tools and small piece of metal stock. You could make it in half n hour with a dremel (which you'd then still own for next time!!!), or a little bit longer if you're a tight cunt and only want to pay for basic hand tools. You'd be surprised how often you'd use a small file set, and they're dirt cheap :) Small files are oddly soothing, and even making simple things gives a reasonable sense of accomplishment... nothing like hand crafted :)

[Akzle]

Go to a hardware store. They have tools and small piece of metal stock. You could make it in half n hour with a dremel (which you'd then still own for next time!!!), or a little bit longer if you're a tight cunt and only want to pay for basic hand tools. You'd be surprised how often you'd use a small file set, and they're dirt cheap :) Small files are oddly soothing, and even making simple things gives a reasonable sense of accomplishment... nothing like hand crafted :)
i have a dremel, and a collection of some 40 files.
i want a fucking drive washer.

[jellywrestler]

try http://www.powersportsplus.com/

[mossy1200]

I had to make one for the gsx550ef speedo drive I just sold. Must be common fault.

I have one I just pulled out of my bucket bike. What sizes is yours.

[Akzle]

I had to make one for the gsx550ef speedo drive I just sold. Must be common fault.

I have one I just pulled out of my bucket bike. What sizes is yours.
byuuurrrrrtiful.

i'd say this is probably OEM with 70 thou/25 years on it..... not too bad, all in.

size is ~50mm OD, i will vernier and confirm. ta.

[Akzle]

43.3 OD
ext tabs 4mm out, 5mm up
25 ID
int tabs ~2mm but worn so may be more??
plate 1.6mm thick...

[jellywrestler]

do you have a part number for it is it available separately or does it come with the speedo drive?

[imdying]

i have a dremel, and a collection of some 40 files.
i want a fucking drive washer.You also have 3 hours between those posts and still no drive washer... that's enough time to have made 3 of the fuckers...

[Akzle]

You also have 3 hours between those posts and still no drive washer... that's enough time to have made 3 of the fuckers...
touché

but i really would rather something close to original spec, for the sake of balance/dimensions etc. if it really really comes to it, i will pursue

[Akzle]

do you have a part number for it is it available separately or does it come with the speedo drive?

negatory bro. whole speedo drive unit is 190$ ex jap. they don't do individual bits but:
consisits of housing, worm gear, pinion, oil seal, this washer, retaining washer and snap ring.

I JUST WANT THE WASHER :'(

[jellywrestler]

negatory bro. whole speedo drive unit is 190$ ex jap. they don't do individual bits but:
consisits of housing, worm gear, pinion, oil seal, this washer, retaining washer and snap ring.

I JUST WANT THE WASHER :'(

well you've got most of it, why don't you seek out a skilled welder and add some new tabs etc.

[Akzle]

well you've got most of it, why don't you seek out a skilled welder and add some new tabs etc.


...anyone got bright ideas about an engineer that'd sort one out or a workshop i can borrow to do the same?

..........

[imdying]

touché

but i really would rather something close to original spec, for the sake of balance/dimensions etc. if it really really comes to it, i will pursue

Yeah fair enough too... my first port of call would've been a call to the OEM dealer and a 1 hour courier... but TBH I'm surprised you can't buy it as a single item :(

What model/year etc is it... maybe somebody can find an individual number for it and hey ho off you go :)

[jellywrestler]

or draw it out and get it laser cut... don't worry about balance etc, the weight is so minimal and it's right on the axle so wont matter a bit. what actual model is your bike?

[Akzle]

Yeah fair enough too... my first port of call would've been a call to the OEM dealer and a 1 hour courier... but TBH I'm surprised you can't buy it as a single item :(

What model/year etc is it... maybe somebody can find an individual number for it and hey ho off you go :)


or draw it out and get it laser cut... don't worry about balance etc, the weight is so minimal and it's right on the axle so wont matter a bit. what actual model is your bike?

well, i do need to consider WHY it failed.
yes it's old. the metal's obviously gone a bit soft (from heat??) but the burring is fairly brittle.

... being off balance and spinning quickly (centrifuge), while engaged into a pinion and cable(sticktion), while under compression from the axle.... it's all force, so i reckon the bearing surfaces need to be spec...

bike is rego'd as 1989 GSX 750 ES
from what i've picked up it is a (-d) model, (but f*cked if i know what it means.)
frame is GR272A, which, according to haynes manual, doens't exist.

i have been to every bike shop in town, again, whole unit only, none in country.
, and i'v rummaged through a few boxes of old parts. i'm going to drop in somewhere in auckland tomorow, there's a 'zuki wrecker.

i've looked the part up on (partshark?) some yank online store. again. whole unit for 60USD +40 shipping.. so by the time it's landed i'd rather have one ex-factory in japan.

[Akzle]

80$ for whole unit from bike wreckers in akl. deal enough, but i'm broke arse.

anyone?

following cars to guess my speed is getting tedious...

[imdying]

80$ for whole unit from bike wreckers in akl. deal enough, but i'm broke arse.

anyone?

following cars to guess my speed is getting tedious...

Warehouse $10 bike computer?

[pete376403]

Is the drive cable in good condition - no kinks or sharp bends, not rusted inside, inner cable not frayed? Do the ring and pinion turn freely? If both of these are in good condition the drive washer should last as more or less forever. The one on my GS1100G has done 90000k (that I know about) and is still in perfect condition. Before obtaining some super-replacement, work out why the original failed. Then make one like has been suggested - the speedo doesn't require massive amounts of torque.

[jellywrestler]

bike is rego'd as 1989 GSX 750 ES
from what i've picked up it is a (-d) model, (but f*cked if i know what it means.)


forget the year of rego, whats on the steering head?
i doubt its a D, that's 1984 basically this letter denotes the year up to this century then they used K1-K12 get the year off the stem (pm me with this), a parts search then a parts cross reference to find other models it'll fit, then that makes the search a whole lot wider...
probably failed either due to prior poor installation where the tags have been damaged or lack of lubrication in the speedo drive gearbox, so even when you do get another it will need to be pulled down and re lubed.

[Akzle]

didn't even see these replies. sorry guys.

Warehouse $10 bike computer?
20$ from avanti. good idea. ( i bought one) not so good in application - wire's too short and sensor-mounting issues. (for sale: bike computer, 30$...PM me)
thanks though!


Is the drive cable in good condition - no kinks or sharp bends, not rusted inside, inner cable not frayed? Do the ring and pinion turn freely? If both of these are in good condition the drive washer should last as more or less forever. The one on my GS1100G has done 90000k (that I know about) and is still in perfect condition. Before obtaining some super-replacement, work out why the original failed. Then make one like has been suggested - the speedo doesn't require massive amounts of torque.



forget the year of rego, whats on the steering head?
i doubt its a D, that's 1984 basically this letter denotes the year up to this century then they used K1-K12 get the year off the stem (pm me with this), a parts search then a parts cross reference to find other models it'll fit, then that makes the search a whole lot wider...
probably failed either due to prior poor installation where the tags have been damaged or lack of lubrication in the speedo drive gearbox, so even when you do get another it will need to be pulled down and re lubed.
1)everything else is fine. cable spins and speedo indicates good in drill chuck.
i stripped it down the first time it jumped the groove (suspect gey who fitted front tyre never torqued axle properly a'cause it was too easy to get off) i filled it with clean grease at that time. also bent central tabs in a bit (they were worn) to engage more, but obviously it wuz beyond it.

2)that would be the gr272a (serial 123217) the one wreckers had was of a gsx1100. i might just bite the bullet, and buy it. fuck. =(

(anyone know other bike wreckers in akl?)

[pete376403]

I'll have a look out in the shed tomorrow - I have the remains of a crashed GS1000L so the speedo drive should be in there somewhere . If i find it I'll measure it and let you know.

[Madness]

I'll have a look out in the shed tomorrow - I have the remains of a crashed GS1000L so the speedo drive should be in there somewhere . If i find it I'll measure it and let you know.

Don't bother.


...and i've just shelled out for another fucking speedo drive.

[Akzle]

I'll have a look out in the shed tomorrow - I have the remains of a crashed GS1000L so the speedo drive should be in there somewhere . If i find it I'll measure it and let you know.

thanks.

you can ignore our mad friend up there. (but don't go to any effort on my account)

it would be interesting to know if it will fit.
FWIW the one i got was offa GSX1135. the housing is missing a good chunk it's edge, so will fill up with dust and grit. yay.
i'm takin the new washer out and fitting it to me old mech. (could do with spare washer...)

[pete376403]

Ok if this helps at all... (sorry about imperial measurements, can't find the metric caliper)

Outside diameter 1.70" inside diameter 0.90", outer tab width 0.30", outer tab height (from back of drive washer 0.275", inner drive tab width 0.280", drive washer thickness 0.063"

[Akzle]

Ok if this helps at all... (sorry about imperial measurements, can't find the metric caliper)

Outside diameter 1.70" inside diameter 0.90", outer tab width 0.30", outer tab height (from back of drive washer 0.275", inner drive tab width 0.280", drive washer thickness 0.063"

. .

[Akzle]

Ok if this helps at all... (sorry about imperial measurements, can't find the metric caliper)

Outside diameter 1.70" inside diameter 0.90", outer tab width 0.30", outer tab height (from back of drive washer 0.275", inner drive tab width 0.280", drive washer thickness 0.063"

f*ck me. i still haven't worked out the imperial scale on my verniers... :S :brick:
who the hell uses binary anyway??

[pete376403]

Ok if this helps at all... (sorry about imperial measurements, can't find the metric caliper)

Outside diameter 1.70" 43.55mm inside diameter 0.90" 22.8mm , outer tab width 0.30" 7.61mm , outer tab height (from back of drive washer 0.275" 7.0mm , inner drive tab width 0.280" 7.15mm, drive washer thickness 0.063" 1.62mm


Conversions added for the imperially challenged. All measurements give or take a wee bit.

Pity we no longer use rods, chains, perches, cubits and other interesting measurements

[Akzle]

so it gone done it again.:brick:

wtf.
i torqued the axle to middle-of-the-road of the listed specs. next time i'm torquing it all the way.

why the fuck is it doing it?!?!?!

i'll get one of you guys to send me washers. pretty please.

:brick:

[pete376403]

Are you absolutely sure there are no missing spacers in there? maybe you should pull the bearings and spacer out of the wheel and assemble it with the speedo drive into the fork, the drive, just to see whats going on. Once the axle nut is nipped up tight, that should be it, no further compression.

Parts diagram for GS1000 but yours should be similar http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs1000-1978-ec_model13504/partslist/FIG-42.html#results

Does the speedo drive (item 11) have the spacer (8) ?

parts diagram for 89 GSX750. items numbers changed to 8 & 9 http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gsx750-1989-fk_model13705/partslist/FIG-41.html#results

[Akzle]

Are you absolutely sure there are no missing spacers in there?

...no i'm not. everything that came out went back in. if anything it would be a spacer/shim behind the helical-cut pinion or the lock/snap ring i reckon.

8 & 9 on the second image you linked (f*ing big website, btw) refer to the speedo drive unit/ housing, & teh bit what gets pinched by the fork pinch bolts. (spacer) they're all present and accounted for.

[pete376403]

Had another look at the drive mech I've got here. No shim between the snap ring and the drive washer. Havent had the helical gear out as that would mean taking out (and probably the seal)

This one fits a 15mm diameter axle - what size axle does your bike have?

[Akzle]

Had another look at the drive mech I've got here. No shim between the snap ring and the drive washer. Havent had the helical gear out as that would mean taking out (and probably the seal)

This one fits a 15mm diameter axle - what size axle does your bike have?

will measure later. seems about right. but washer... as long as that meets teh spec should be a match.

you can pull the pinion out with the seal in place. indeed, it's f*ing difficult to get the seal out without removing the pinion. grab it lightly with some locking pliers/vice grips (so it's not crushing onto the centre bit) and pull. easy peasy.

[Akzle]

my verniers say 15.1
sound like a match...

[pete376403]

OK I'll send it up. PM me with where you want it sent and what you think it's worth.

[gammaguy]

This Suzuki 54600-00A00 BOX ASSY SPEED is also used on these models and components:

1984 GS1150EF FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150EF2 FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150EG FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ES3 FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ESE FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ESF FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ESG FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150EF FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150EF2 FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150EG FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ES3 FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ESE FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ESF FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ESG FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150EF FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150EF2 FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150EG FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ES3 FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ESE FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ESF FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ESG FRONT WHEEL

By the way a GR27A is a 1985,released in 1983 and initially known as the GSX750ESD

[Akzle]

This Suzuki 54600-00A00 BOX ASSY SPEED is also used on these models and components:...
By the way a GR27A is a 1985,released in 1983 and initially known as the GSX750ESD

thankyou guy!!!

[Akzle]

OK I'll send it up. PM me with where you want it sent and what you think it's worth.

washer. 5 bucks and a bag of chips :D

i might have a crack at getting cutshop to do one up for me. i now have 2 complete assemblies with fucked washers, so i might also look at chucking a shim in behind teh pinion or sommat. will PM as/when required. thankey.

[jellywrestler]

This Suzuki 54600-00A00 BOX ASSY SPEED is also used on these models and components:

1984 GS1150EF FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150EF2 FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150EG FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ES3 FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ESE FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ESF FRONT WHEEL
1984 GS1150ESG FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150EF FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150EF2 FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150EG FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ES3 FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ESE FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ESF FRONT WHEEL
1985 GS1150ESG FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150EF FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150EF2 FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150EG FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ES3 FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ESE FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ESF FRONT WHEEL
1986 GS1150ESG FRONT WHEEL

By the way a GR27A is a 1985,released in 1983 and initially known as the GSX750ESD
my parts finder says other things
Part # = 54600-00A00
Part Description = BOX ASSEMBLY,SPEEDOMETER GEAR
Model Count = 7
GSX1150ESG 1986 1135 GSX1150ES STREET
GSX550LD 1983 572 GSX550L STREET
GS1100ESE 1984 1100 GS1100ES STREET
GS1150ESF 1985 1135 GS1150ES SPORT
GS550LF 1985 549 GS550L STREET
GS700EF 1985 700 GS700E STREET
GS750ESD 1983 748 GS750ES STREET

[gammaguy]

my parts finder says other things
Part # = 54600-00A00
Part Description = BOX ASSEMBLY,SPEEDOMETER GEAR
Model Count = 7
GSX1150ESG 1986 1135 GSX1150ES STREET
GSX550LD 1983 572 GSX550L STREET
GS1100ESE 1984 1100 GS1100ES STREET
GS1150ESF 1985 1135 GS1150ES SPORT
GS550LF 1985 549 GS550L STREET
GS700EF 1985 700 GS700E STREET
GS750ESD 1983 748 GS750ES STREET

yes mr Jelly I concur

which is why I said ALSO used on.....

[scumdog]

anyone got one? i've just been quoted 190$ for replacement unit ex-japan. all i want is a washer. just one washer!



Pay up ya jew!

[Akzle]

are you fucken serious??
have they run out of bourbon in the south island or something?
and i thought husa needed a hobby...



Pay up ya jew!

[husaberg]

Take up woodwork pecker head.
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[Akzle]

husaberg
This user is on your Ignore List.



Try. Just once. Try and shut the fuck up.
I'm slightly worried at how much time you devote to me.

[husaberg]

Who said I was talking to you? ya presumptuous pecker-headed goat fornicator.
Maybe the stuff you say might be believable if you didn't need to put shit about me in your avatar signature
If ya that worried about me you could do us a favour and piss off.
I certainly won't be following you and I doubt many other people would either.
Why not set up a web site that suits your the jews are out to get you viewpoint on everthing, fuck people will flock to it.
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[Akzle]

husaberg
This user is on your Ignore List.

Couldnt manage it, could ya.

[husaberg]

Azkel
This user is on your Ignore List.

Sorry What did you say pecker wood?
Maybe you should go dressed as a man.
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[Akzle]

sit booboo sit.

[bogan]

Hold on a sec, did axkles used to have a bike?

Or was he just trying to find a ring-like thingo to put on his best gal's hoof...

[husaberg]

Hold on a sec, did axkles used to have a bike?

Or was he just trying to find a ring-like thingo to put on his best gal's hoof...
round shackle
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I suggest everyone should Watch and wait while Axle will now plays with himself while desperately trying to attract the attention he so craves.

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edit so true
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[Akzle]

sit booboo sit.

[Akzle]

sit booboo sit.

[Akzle]

sit booboo sit.

[Akzle]

sit booboo sit.

[scumdog]

sit booboo sit.




boo fucken hoo...:weird::shake:

[husaberg]

boo fucken hoo...:weird::shake:

Watch out Scummy
Someone wants their Mummy to kiss it all better
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[nodrog]

thwarted by a fuckin washer :first:

[Akzle]

sit booboo sit.

[nodrog]

it's Ubu, Einstein.

[Akzle]

ok... Is there a mod playing funny buggers? The only thing i was doing at 5am was dreaming of poon

[nodrog]

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