View Full Version : Anyone know anything about the 1983 Suzuki GSX750ES?
Tigadee
4th July 2012, 14:57
This came up on TM (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=490739602), a 1983 Suzuki GSX750ES. Are they any good? Any concerns buying such an old bike?
All I know is that Kevin Schwantz raced one (http://www.kevinschwantz.com/book-pages/yoshiyears5.htm) for Yoshimura back in the '80s...
Akzle
4th July 2012, 15:16
This came up on TM (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=490739602), a 1983 Suzuki GSX750ES. Are they any good? Any concerns buying such an old bike?
All I know is that Kevin Schwantz raced one (http://www.kevinschwantz.com/book-pages/yoshiyears5.htm) for Yoshimura back in the '80s...
my daily is of a similar vintage. going by the frame it's '85... rego'd as 89. guess it's just a mutt.
asides from new paws and a f*cked speedo drive and balancing the carbs, i haven't had to do anything to it. =no complaints. it's not exactly power-weight-gasm, but does what it need do.
concerns about buying "old" stuff... never. they're usually a damn site easier to work on. parts can be fixed rather than replaced (given a workshop) and they're just plain cool.:cool:
FJRider
4th July 2012, 15:28
You shouldn't have any issues with it. Not spectacular performance wise by todays standards ... but at 60,000 km's still heaps of km's left in it. Look hard enough and similar size/age should be found. But at less than dealer price.
I think Robert Holden raced one (and won) at Wanganui one year after no other bike in the class (production I think) could be found. He was told it would be "non-competitive" but he would be still out on the track racing ... and could count it as practice for the other classes.
caseye
4th July 2012, 15:39
Wouldn't pay the dealers price, but otherwise a good bike, strong, reliable.
Spuds1234
4th July 2012, 15:51
Only problem I've had with an engine of that ilk is a bent gear selector fork in the gearbox. Then again I did have to ride it through traffic without a clutch lever which is probably what caused it...
Otherwise they are pretty bullet proof.
If you do buy the bike I have the manual in pdf form if you want it.
Tigadee
4th July 2012, 15:55
So the dealer price is no good, but bike is fine. Cool, thanks all!
I owned one (and its big brother the 1135) in '88/89/90. It was good in its day.. The 750 was a really nice ride.
98tls
4th July 2012, 16:42
Spent some time on one yonks ago,went ok and seemed bulletproof.
Kept up with all me mates 11 hundys only difference really was when 2 up. Dunno bout old school antidive or that wee front wheel it had...shims....Otherwise bullet proof was the bomb until the Katana superceeded it.
FJRider
4th July 2012, 16:45
So the dealer price is no good, but bike is fine. Cool, thanks all!
If you want it ... make them an offer. They would most likely give you a good deal on bike gear to seal the deal.
onearmedbandit
4th July 2012, 18:00
$2,500 from a dealer? That's a brilliant price, considering it will have to have a new wof issued and be covered by the cga etc.
SMOKEU
4th July 2012, 20:16
$2,500 from a dealer? That's a brilliant price, considering it will have to have a new wof issued and be covered by the cga etc.
Does the CGA always apply to used vehicles? I know that goods have to be fit for the purpose, but if it's such an old vehicle, is it "reasonable" to expect it to be repaired at the dealers expense?
Tryhard
4th July 2012, 20:22
My old bike I traded in for the blackbird what ya wanna know?
neels
4th July 2012, 20:30
Mate has one he's owned from new, only problem he's ever had was the usual suzuki stator frying itself. Otherwise it's always got him where he's going and home again, and super easy to work on.
FJRider
4th July 2012, 20:33
Does the CGA always apply to used vehicles? I know that goods have to be fit for the purpose, but if it's such an old vehicle, is it "reasonable" to expect it to be repaired at the dealers expense?
Maybe it doesn't need "repaired" ... and if the dealer had any concerns about its ability to be fit for the purpose for which it was intended ... it would be sold "as is, where is".
My experience with those models make me believe it is well suited for the purpose.
Katman
4th July 2012, 20:35
I'd be more inclined to consider this one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-490672657.htm
FJRider
4th July 2012, 20:44
I'd be more inclined to consider this one.
I'd prefer this one ...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-489213048.htm
nzspokes
4th July 2012, 21:47
My old bike I traded in for the blackbird what ya wanna know?
How good does it wheelie? Can it do stoppies?
How many gears does it have? (thats important to Tigadee) :lol:
Can ya get ya knee down on it?
onearmedbandit
4th July 2012, 21:48
Does the CGA always apply to used vehicles? I know that goods have to be fit for the purpose, but if it's such an old vehicle, is it "reasonable" to expect it to be repaired at the dealers expense?
If it's sold by a dealer it has to be covered. The disputes tribunal will decide how much cover is acceptable.
Maybe it doesn't need "repaired" ... and if the dealer had any concerns about its ability to be fit for the purpose for which it was intended ... it would be sold "as is, where is".
Dealers can not contract out of the CGA, been down this path before. The only way to do this is by a tender process or auction.
mossy1200
4th July 2012, 21:57
Where were you when I just sold my GSX550EF for $808.00
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-484008266.htm
I think over $1200 for gsx550-750 is getting high on price.
Or you could do what I did and pay $101.00 and spend $350 more to have one road legal with new warrent.
Tigadee
4th July 2012, 22:05
My old bike I traded in for the blackbird what ya wanna know?
Oh cool, the [ex-]owner himself!
Well, main concerns are availability of parts if any unlikely breakdown. Any problems with engine/mechanicals? Any new parts or fairly new parts? e.g. steering bearings, sprockets/chain?
The suspension seems unique. Would it be difficult to source replacements if any part of it breaks down? In event parts are not possible, could standard shocks be put in instead?
How's the fuel economy? It's an air-cooled engine, correct?
Where were you when I just sold my GSX550EF for $808.00
I remember that... Yeah well, I didn't have need to look for a bike then, until now when my XJ400's been written off. :weep:
I'd be more inclined to consider this one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-490672657.htm
Heck yeah! :love:That's a fine looking one! I especially like the colour!
The Hamilton Honda one does have a pack rack though... Will it be difficult to find a pack rack that'll fit? Will Ventura even have any for this age bike? No biggie but I really need a top box...
I'd prefer this one ...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-489213048.htm
Thanks but this one'll be harder on my wrists and back. And it sounds like it needs some work...
mossy1200
4th July 2012, 22:47
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-489719545.htm
Its the kind of thing idd take on just to finish it but maybe not everyones cup of tea.
FJRider
4th July 2012, 22:49
Dealers can not contract out of the CGA, been down this path before. The only way to do this is by a tender process or auction.
Like on Trademe you mean ... ???
How good does it wheelie? Can it do stoppies?
How many gears does it have? (thats important to Tigadee) :lol:
Can ya get ya knee down on it?
I answer to the above questions.
Yes they wheelie good.
They can do good stoppies.
5 gears
You can get both knees down but only on opposing corners unless you push the useless suspension past its max and then you can get your whole body and head down.
Virtually bullet proof motors except mine decided it needed to throw its timing chain for no apparent reason.
Still have it awaiting me getting unwiser and nostalgic and resurecting it in my declining senile years.
There is no comparison between the old school bikes and the new ones in handling and performance except they both produce smiles when pushed close to their individual limit.
Tigadee
4th July 2012, 23:25
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-489719545.htm
Its the kind of thing idd take on just to finish it but maybe not everyones cup of tea.
Thanks but no rego, no WOF, no interest...:oi-grr:
Tigadee
4th July 2012, 23:27
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-489719545.htm
Its the kind of thing idd take on just to finish it but maybe not everyones cup of tea.
Thanks but no rego, no WOF, no interest...:oi-grr:
I am very interested in this one as well:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-488590664.htm
But again the same question apply - Availability of parts, especially since it's pretty one-of-a-kind from Yamaha.
onearmedbandit
4th July 2012, 23:30
Like on Trademe you mean ... ???
The link is to a classified ad. The vehicle isn't actually purchased via trademe, you contact the dealer. Hence the CGA still applies. Interestingly enough, as more and more new items are now being sold by trademe the Commerce Commission is tightening laws up around online auction sales. Doesn't matter in this instance anyway.
FJRider
5th July 2012, 09:04
The link is to a classified ad. The vehicle isn't actually purchased via trademe, you contact the dealer. Hence the CGA still applies. Interestingly enough, as more and more new items are now being sold by trademe the Commerce Commission is tightening laws up around online auction sales. Doesn't matter in this instance anyway.
In this instance ... that is correct. However I have seen auctions on Trademe, of bikes put up obviously by a dealer. On bikes that have sustained damage ... or if it's condition is doubtful. The "As is" condition is usually stated in those times.
That was not stated in this particular sale ... and one might assume it was fit for the purpose ... and as (obviously) a dealer ... standing behind their products on sale.
Katman
5th July 2012, 09:36
Thanks but no rego, no WOF, no interest...:oi-grr:
I am very interested in this one as well:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-488590664.htm
But again the same question apply - Availability of parts, especially since it's pretty one-of-a-kind from Yamaha.
The FZX is a Jap import model and a lot of parts would have to come from Japan.
The GSX that you linked to in the first post is also a Jap domestic market one and would have a slightly de-tuned motor.
Can't tell whether the blue GSX I linked to is NZ new or an import though.
If it's NZ new it should have a 240kph speedo as opposed to the 180kph ones on the import model.
Tigadee
5th July 2012, 09:40
If it's NZ new it should have a 240kph speedo as opposed to the 180kph ones on the import model.
Thanks for the info. :niceone:Will check with the seller...
jellywrestler
5th July 2012, 10:30
You shouldn't have any issues with it. Not spectacular performance wise by todays standards ... but at 60,000 km's still heaps of km's left in it. Look hard enough and similar size/age should be found. But at less than dealer price.
I think Robert Holden raced one (and won) at Wanganui one year after no other bike in the class (production I think) could be found. He was told it would be "non-competitive" but he would be still out on the track racing ... and could count it as practice for the other classes.
He didn't win on it at Wanganui,he cooked that bike there, came out of the esses and touched the curb on the exit taking down Kawasaki mounted Glen Williams too both bikes caught fire...
Tony McMurdo bought the wreck
onearmedbandit
5th July 2012, 10:51
In this instance ... that is correct. However I have seen auctions on Trademe, of bikes put up obviously by a dealer. On bikes that have sustained damage ... or if it's condition is doubtful. The "As is" condition is usually stated in those times.
That was not stated in this particular sale ... and one might assume it was fit for the purpose ... and as (obviously) a dealer ... standing behind their products on sale.
Your observations are correct. Classified ads on trademe by dealers (and I deal with this everyday, I'm in car sales and we advertise on trademe) are subject to normal conditions of sale. The sale process is handled entirely by the dealer, not through trademe. Auctions on the other hand are completely different. We sell cheap trade ins via auction process and they are not covered by the CGA etc. We don't have to put 'as is where is' on them at all. The process is still handled by us (ie paperwork).
Regarding your second point, a dealer cannot contract out of the CGA by normal sale process. You can say 'as is where is' in the ad and on the sales agreement, but it wouldn't stand up in court etc. You would still be bound by the applicable acts.
Akzle
5th July 2012, 11:25
...air cooled?
* oil cooled
Tigadee
5th July 2012, 11:29
* oil cooled
Oh yes, I see the little oil cooler now! Thanks...
Tigadee
5th July 2012, 11:33
I'd be more inclined to consider this one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-490672657.htm
The speedo for this one is 240kph tops... :blip:
Here's what the selelr said in a reply email just received:
"Hi, thanks for questions
Bike runs well hasnt been used for the last 2 years due to injury but battery and very possibly oil and filter were replaced about 3 years ago. Rego is on hold due to not being able to ride bike- situation is not going to improve so hence selling bike. Every time bike has gone through WOF it has not had any problems - only one thing the plastic mounting that the right rear indicator is attached to is broken but is taped up and works fine. Speedo goes to 240kph. Very difficult for us to take to Auckland."
Katman
5th July 2012, 11:50
The speedo for this one is 240kph tops... :blip:
Here's what the selelr said in a reply email just received:
"Hi, thanks for questions
Bike runs well hasnt been used for the last 2 years due to injury but battery and very possibly oil and filter were replaced about 3 years ago. Rego is on hold due to not being able to ride bike- situation is not going to improve so hence selling bike. Every time bike has gone through WOF it has not had any problems - only one thing the plastic mounting that the right rear indicator is attached to is broken but is taped up and works fine. Speedo goes to 240kph. Very difficult for us to take to Auckland."
That would be the one I'd go for then.
It evens looks like it's got the original exhaust on it (although looks like someone may have painted the headers black.
Tigadee
5th July 2012, 12:02
Should I ask for WOF and rego (though the latter not a must) to be done? Should a new battery and oil filter be put in? Should there be a worry of rust in the fuel tank?
Should I ask for WOF and rego (though the latter not a must) to be done? Should a new battery and oil filter be put in? Should there be a worry of rust in the fuel tank?
Its $1500...I think you are buying 'as is'...if the owner puts rego/warrant on, dont be offended if the price is increased to cover that extra cost.
mossy1200
5th July 2012, 12:07
Should I ask for WOF and rego (though the latter not a must) to be done? Should a new battery and oil filter be put in? Should there be a worry of rust in the fuel tank?
My 550 had had both bottom seems re-welded due to rust before I got it hense the repainted tank. It may be a common fault once they are older.
Ender EnZed
5th July 2012, 12:44
Your observations are correct. Classified ads on trademe by dealers (and I deal with this everyday, I'm in car sales and we advertise on trademe) are subject to normal conditions of sale. The sale process is handled entirely by the dealer, not through trademe. Auctions on the other hand are completely different. We sell cheap trade ins via auction process and they are not covered by the CGA etc. We don't have to put 'as is where is' on them at all. The process is still handled by us (ie paperwork).
Regarding your second point, a dealer cannot contract out of the CGA by normal sale process. You can say 'as is where is' in the ad and on the sales agreement, but it wouldn't stand up in court etc. You would still be bound by the applicable acts.
:Offtopic:
Quite a lot of the cars for sale on TradeMe in the $4-8k range are being sold by "trade-in wholesalers" that seem to operate exclusively off TradeMe. They normally run auctions to avoid the CGA, which is fair enough. Do you have any idea whether they ever sell by a normal sales process if pushed?
Tigadee
5th July 2012, 13:19
Its $1500...I think you are buying 'as is'...
Understood. :yes:
But a minimum of WOF would be nice just to know the bike won't need anything immediate, unless someone round that neghbourhood would be happy to have a look for me? :blip:
Understood. :yes:
But a minimum of WOF would be nice just to know the bike won't need anything immediate, unless someone round that neghbourhood would be happy to have a look for me? :blip:
Agreed, a WOF check is bugger all...$20-25?
FJRider
5th July 2012, 13:49
Should I ask for WOF and rego (though the latter not a must) to be done? Should a new battery and oil filter be put in? Should there be a worry of rust in the fuel tank?
You could offer/insist to pay for the WoF test. Pass or fail ... you know what condition it is in.
A new battery/oil AND filter (fuel filter too) after purchase ... is cheap insurance ...
Getting the fuel tank lined is a good idea. Regardles of rust being an issue now (or not).
onearmedbandit
5th July 2012, 14:01
:Offtopic:
Quite a lot of the cars for sale on TradeMe in the $4-8k range are being sold by "trade-in wholesalers" that seem to operate exclusively off TradeMe. They normally run auctions to avoid the CGA, which is fair enough. Do you have any idea whether they ever sell by a normal sales process if pushed?
The govt. is looking at tightening up the laws relating to this very issue.
Tigadee
5th July 2012, 14:46
You could offer/insist to pay for the WoF test. Pass or fail ... you know what condition it is in.
A new battery/oil AND filter (fuel filter too) after purchase ... is cheap insurance ...
Getting the fuel tank lined is a good idea. Regardles of rust being an issue now (or not).
Sound advice, thanks!
Rhubarb
5th July 2012, 16:12
I owned one of these for many years. I loved it.
It was really reliable, easy to ride, plenty of power (for me).
The only issue I had was the bearings in the top and bottom of the shockie. They collapsed and cost $110 each (unfortunatley they are not an SKF, Saeco off-the-shelf bearing).
I machine some Black Lurethane to replace the bearings - it worked perfectly.
I sold mine privately for $1750, about 3 years ago. It had a new WOF and 5 or 6 months rego.
nzspokes
5th July 2012, 17:46
Oil boiler thread, one of the bikes your looking at is on here...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140968-The-old-Suzy-oiler-thread/page3
Tryhard
5th July 2012, 18:00
Sound advice, thanks!
PM'd u m8.........
nzspokes
5th July 2012, 19:32
How about, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-485793743.htm
How about, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-485793743.htm
heh, I was looking at that.. but I cant buy it unless someone buys mine :s
Ender EnZed
5th July 2012, 19:44
heh, I was looking at that.. but I cant buy it unless someone buys mine :s
92000 miles is a long way. You could probably talk the seller down in price a bit more.
92000 miles is a long way. You could probably talk the seller down in price a bit more.
yeah.. although, 80's is a bit older than I'd have liked.
Tigadee
5th July 2012, 21:33
A few more questions: Tyre sizes are 100/90-16 (F) and 120/90-17 (R). Are they common and easy to find/replace?
If the bike has been sitting around for 3 years, should I be wary of the current tyres? Would the rubber have hardened or deteriorated in that time?
Akzle
5th July 2012, 21:55
A few more questions: Tyre sizes are 100/90-16 (F) and 120/90-17 (R). Are they common and easy to find/replace?
If the bike has been sitting around for 3 years, should I be wary of the current tyres? Would the rubber have hardened or deteriorated in that time?
i replaced the paws pretty much when i got the bike. with pretty much the same sizes as thems. there were many mix-n-match, (front OR back) in various brands, ended up with battlax bt045 (i think) because they had a matched pair. so no problem with rubber, but might pay to order in to your local in advance to make sure they can get what you want ahead of time.
standing for 3 years - yikes. best bet would be replace them, failing that, crack the beads, do a really good visual all the way around, re fit and fill and take it easy for a few hundy km. then check again.
mossy1200
5th July 2012, 21:59
A few more questions: Tyre sizes are 100/90-16 (F) and 120/90-17 (R). Are they common and easy to find/replace?
If the bike has been sitting around for 3 years, should I be wary of the current tyres? Would the rubber have hardened or deteriorated in that time?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tyres/auction-491157327.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tyres/auction-490963331.htm
16fronts are easy to get new in 100 or 110
130/17 rears also which fit good
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 08:09
Akzle and Mossy - Thanks heaps for the info! :niceone:
The seller of the blue GSX750ES has agreed to send the bike for WOF check, so am awaiting the results whenever that is completed.
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 08:19
How about, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-485793743.htm
Maybe.... I like the low seat height and the look of it. Sitting position is a little more forward than I think I might be comfortable or have been used to thus far with but not as bad as pure sports bikes...
I owned one of these for many years. I loved it.
The only issue I had was the bearings in the top and bottom of the shockie. They collapsed and cost $110 each (unfortunatley they are not an SKF, Saeco off-the-shelf bearing).
Were you riding it hard all those years?
nzspokes
6th July 2012, 08:36
Maybe.... I like the low seat height and the look of it. Sitting position is a little more forward than I think I might be comfortable or have been used to thus far with but not as bad as pure sports bikes...
Go sit on it.
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 10:01
Any knowledge and opinions on this 1986 Honda VFR750F (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=489949013)?
nzspokes
6th July 2012, 10:31
This is still good
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/150934-Suzuki-Bandit-600
Ender EnZed
6th July 2012, 10:37
Any knowledge and opinions on this 1986 Honda VFR750F (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=489949013)?
An excellent bike and a bargain at that price. I have one very similar to that; same age, colour and at 80km. I've done the last 30k of those and it's been comfortable, reliable and fast. It's lighter than most of the other 80s 750s at 199kg dry and that water cooled V4 makes a lot more power everywhere than the air cooled 750s I've ridden. Sounds pretty good too.
The riding position is probably closer to that CBR1000 than a GSX750ES but it's not a sports crouch by any means. I do 800km days quite comfortably. If you read some reviews you'll find that the VFR was very highly regarded in it's day and it still has plenty of fans out there.
mossy1200
6th July 2012, 11:00
Put this insurance one on your watch list incase it stays low but idd say its prob going to get to 3k+
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-491148525.htm
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 11:28
An excellent bike and a bargain at that price. I have one very similar to that; same age, colour and at 80km. I've done the last 30k of those and it's been comfortable, reliable and fast. It's lighter than most of the other 80s 750s at 199kg dry and that water cooled V4 makes a lot more power everywhere than the air cooled 750s I've ridden. Sounds pretty good too.
Sounds good... I'll keep an eye on it and make enquiries.
The riding position is probably closer to that CBR1000 than a GSX750ES but it's not a sports crouch by any means.
Seems an acceptable compromise between the CBR and GSX.
Mossy - Thanks but not my cuppa tea... :msn-wink:
Put this insurance one on your watch list incase it stays low but idd say its prob going to get to 3k+
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-491148525.htm
Damage = Right mirror, coolant overflow bottle cracked, front rim minor bend, left side fairing minor damage, front mud guard minor scratches, right side fairing damage, right front foot peg & bracket damage.
Minor for a right-off...cool bikes, be worth a bid or two.
mossy1200
6th July 2012, 11:54
Damage = Right mirror, coolant overflow bottle cracked, front rim minor bend, left side fairing minor damage, front mud guard minor scratches, right side fairing damage, right front foot peg & bracket damage.
Minor for a right-off...cool bikes, be worth a bid or two.
Mossy - Thanks but not my cuppa tea... from post above.
It would make a good reliable ride though with comfort seating position and fun in the twists. Idd be tempted myself if I could afford another bike.
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 12:19
It would make a good reliable ride though with comfort seating position and fun in the twists. Idd be tempted myself if I could afford another bike.
Sell off the MT-01... :bleh:
mossy1200
6th July 2012, 12:21
Sell off the MT-01... :bleh:
Then idd have nothing to tow with.
Sable
6th July 2012, 12:53
FZX750s are cool. FZR750 motor in a cruiser style chassis. Kinda like a little VMAX.
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 13:33
FZX750s are cool. FZR750 motor in a cruiser style chassis. Kinda like a little VMAX.
Indeed, all the looks and style of a V-Max without the bulk and weight. The foot pegs position also make it more a sports cruiser/muscle bike?
Wish I could be more confident about buying that one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-488590664.htm)... Questions about parts and tyres nag at me.
Sable
6th July 2012, 13:57
Parts you can import cheeeap from the States. Tyres? Why is that a concern?
FJRider
6th July 2012, 14:26
Damage = Right mirror, coolant overflow bottle cracked, front rim minor bend, left side fairing minor damage, front mud guard minor scratches, right side fairing damage, right front foot peg & bracket damage.
Minor for a right-off...cool bikes, be worth a bid or two.
A lot of motorcycles are written off due to cost of replacement plastics ... new plastic costs being so high ... as they usually have to be sourced ex Japan. A local repair/repaint can work in your favour. Rim's can be repaired ... but the cost of a new one, wouldn't be the end of the world.
FJRider
6th July 2012, 14:37
Indeed, all the looks and style of a V-Max without the bulk and weight. The foot pegs position also make it more a sports cruiser/muscle bike?
Wish I could be more confident about buying that one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-488590664.htm)... Questions about parts and tyres nag at me.
At 34,000 km's ... you shouldn't need engine parts for quite a while.
Unless you plan on pranging it ... I'd say go for it at that price. Worry about parts later.
It's not a V-Max ... so without drag-strip starts ... and lots of rear wheel only braking ... you should get around 9,000 km's out of the back tyre. Plenty of time to "find" another one.
If you like the style (and it is a Yamaha :devil2:) ... and can afford it ... DO it ...
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 14:42
Hmmmm, seems the seller wants $3,400 minimum for it, so out of my budget range for the moment, maybe end of the year if it's still available...:rolleyes:
FJRider
6th July 2012, 15:22
Hmmmm, seems the seller wants $3,400 minimum for it, so out of my budget range for the moment, maybe end of the year if it's still available...:rolleyes:
:innocent: :innocent: :innocent: :killingme
More bang for your buck. Take the bus up ... ride it home.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-411536927.htm
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 16:45
OK, scratch the VFR, too much bike for me to handle at this stage.
What about this Yamaha YX600 Radian (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-491567952.htm)? Another baby V-Max... :love:
Katman
6th July 2012, 16:50
Another baby V-Max... :love:
And another Japanese domestic model.
In the price range you appear to be looking in, the blue GSX would be by far the best pick of the suggestions so far.
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 16:52
Oh...:buggerd:
Yes, that's top of my rather limited list... Thanks, Katman.
Akzle
6th July 2012, 17:26
OK, scratch the VFR, too much bike for me to handle at this stage.
What about this Yamaha YX600 Radian (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-491567952.htm)? Another baby V-Max... :love:
sorry man,but nobody on here can tell you what bike is right for you.
you obviously already ride, so go sit on/test ride some bikes (lots of bikes) if you have your 6F it's likely anyone will let you blat on thier bike (from club ride, ie), if not, there's still a good many people who will let you loose on their beasty.
seems like you're going for more of an upright riding position on a sport-tourer. so go test ride some. i'll be coming back through akl this weekend, i'm happy to let you go for a skid on mine
(you break it you buy it. because i own it, it's worth your bike + money to repair/replace =D )
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 17:35
sorry man,but nobody on here can tell you what bike is right for you.
Not that, just wanting to hear from anybody whose had first hand experience riding/owning the bike so they can tell me if it's worthwhile owning, i.e. reliability, maintenance, extreme weaknesses, etc.
For how it rides for me, I can either adapt [as long as it's somewhere around the sitting posture I prefer] or if horribly uncomfortable, flog the beast off to the next victim... owner. :innocent:
(you break it you buy it. because i own it, it's worth your bike + money to repair/replace =D )
What a great sales pitch!:clap:
Ender EnZed
6th July 2012, 17:55
It's not local, but here's another model (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-491504002.htm) in your price range that you might want to consider.
OK, scratch the VFR, too much bike for me to handle at this stage.
What about this Yamaha YX600 Radian (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-491567952.htm)? Another baby V-Max... :love:
You wont like it...I paid $1000 for one a fews years ago (for my wife) it done the job but it was a bit of a pig if I were to be honest.
I thought I sold to a KBer down the line a couple of years ago..I say thought because, I have never been paid for it.
Katman
6th July 2012, 18:23
I thought I sold to a KBer down the line a couple of years ago..I say thought because, I have never been paid for it.
Sounds like a fair deal to me. :bleh:
nzspokes
6th July 2012, 19:14
And another Japanese domestic model.
In the price range you appear to be looking in, the blue GSX would be by far the best pick of the suggestions so far.
Im sure Katman will go look at it for you as he lives down that way. :niceone:
caseye
6th July 2012, 20:58
The venox will get to Taumaranui Tig, no worries go for a cruise and check it out.
Or take a road trip in a car and I'll come take a gander at it for you.
Then I could drive back and you could ride it home.
FJRider
6th July 2012, 21:07
In the price range you appear to be looking in, the blue GSX would be by far the best pick of the suggestions so far.
I'm inclined to agree ...
mossy1200
6th July 2012, 21:15
If your going to spend 1500-2k on a bike dont rush as I check bike for sales every day and other than the blue one theres not many on tard me listed this week or last that are worth getting. Idd wait for a cosmetic repair revere650, bros 600 or a early 90s bike. Unless your passion is making a early 80s bike mint and not worried about the cost to do so they arnt the best value other than go to work hacks.
If you want to spend money on bearings,bushes,rebuild,suspension,brakes and cosmetic because your in love with the era bike then fair enough.
Tigadee
6th July 2012, 21:17
Cheers all! :niceone:
Caseye - Something to consider, see how the WOF report goes...
Katman & FJrider - I do very much fancy that blue GSX, certainly!
Maha - Thanks, that's the kind of info and feedback I'm after - tapping into KBers' experiences and 1st hand knowledge. :niceone:Strike that off my list!
Ender Enzed - Budget = yes. But sinfully ugly though!:sick:
other than go to work hacks.
That's the plan, actually. I've got a nice pretty cruiser already, just want an old workhorse to take me to work and home.
Tigadee
8th July 2012, 19:01
What do you guys think of this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-491989250.htm
Looks pretty sweet to me. From a close-to-Full-license rider's and performance/mechanical point of view, will this bike be suitable for me?
mossy1200
8th July 2012, 19:06
What do you guys think of this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-491989250.htm
Looks pretty sweet to me. From a close-to-Full-license rider's and performance/mechanical point of view, will this bike be suitable for me?
Looks good. Ask him to email you the motor receipts or get the details on what work was done and at what kms.
Tigadee
10th July 2012, 13:13
OK, just heard from the seller of the blue GSX750. Got WOF and fixed the bent indicator as well.:2thumbsup
She's coming back to me with info on the tyres since the bike was sitting around for 3 years, then we'll go further from there...
Maha
11th July 2012, 15:37
....yum....http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-477695485.htm :cool:
..and more yum..http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-456163913.htm
Tigadee
11th July 2012, 16:10
Thanks. Lovely bikes, something about old schoool that appeals... but too much coin for me to afford... :(
How about this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=492717758
jellywrestler
11th July 2012, 17:20
Thanks. Lovely bikes, something about old schoool that appeals... but too much coin for me to afford... :(
How about this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=492717758
rear shock made of compressed cornflakes
Tigadee
11th July 2012, 19:34
rear shock made of compressed cornflakes
:eek5: Really?
Tigadee
11th July 2012, 19:45
OK, just heard from the seller of the blue GSX750. Got WOF and fixed the bent indicator as well.:2thumbsup
She's coming back to me with info on the tyres since the bike was sitting around for 3 years, then we'll go further from there...
Seller has identified the front tyre as a Shinko sports tyre [model unknown] and an IRC Duro Tour tyre on the rear [model unknown]. Mechanic who did the WOF said the tyres still look good and have plenty of thread left in them.
But these ain't very good tyres, are they?
caseye
12th July 2012, 13:07
I've ridden on both of em and in the same configuration, they are not expensive tyres and they do not purport to be.
They work OK and if you've ridden with them on before you'd most likely do it again as a cost only exercise.
I've made the (OK Mike from DPC) made the call and moved me up to more expensive, better rubber and there is no question that I feel safer and more confident on them, having said that the old ones never let go on me and I never over taxed them.
If the rest of the bike is OK, it'd be a good choice, again though the other one looks like it could be a real jem.
Tigadee
12th July 2012, 21:53
Cheers! Thanks Caseye! :yes:
mossy1200
12th July 2012, 22:23
Seller has identified the front tyre as a Shinko sports tyre [model unknown] and an IRC Duro Tour tyre on the rear [model unknown]. Mechanic who did the WOF said the tyres still look good and have plenty of thread left in them.
But these ain't very good tyres, are they?
The GSX550ef had a shinko front that hadnt been used in the previous 18months. I gave the bike as good a workout as a old bike can be given without trying to destroy it and its seemed to stick well. I think shinko is Yokohama compound formular based maybe just older rubber type than most top brands are now.
nzspokes
12th July 2012, 22:29
So ya gunna buy the GSX?
Ender EnZed
12th July 2012, 22:32
Seller has identified the front tyre as a Shinko sports tyre [model unknown] and an IRC Duro Tour tyre on the rear [model unknown]. Mechanic who did the WOF said the tyres still look good and have plenty of thread left in them.
But these ain't very good tyres, are they?
I don't know anything about Shinkos but I've had IRC rear tyres on a couple of bikes when I bought them. I wouldn't buy one but if you're not trying to be a hero there's no reason to replace it before it wears out.
Tigadee
13th July 2012, 08:50
I don't know anything about Shinkos but I've had IRC rear tyres on a couple of bikes when I bought them. I wouldn't buy one but if you're not trying to be a hero there's no reason to replace it before it wears out.
The GSX550ef had a shinko front that hadnt been used in the previous 18months. I gave the bike as good a workout as a old bike can be given without trying to destroy it and its seemed to stick well. I think shinko is Yokohama compound formular based maybe just older rubber type than most top brands are now.
Cool! Thanks for the info, guys!
So ya gunna buy the GSX?
Taking a look at another GSX closer to home, and working out the finances, so it's "Yes but soon, not right now".
Katman
13th July 2012, 08:53
Taking a look at another GSX closer to home, and working out the finances, so it's "Yes but soon, not right now".
Call me a pedant but it's actually a GS.
Tigadee
13th July 2012, 09:30
You is korrect, Sir Katman... :o
Katman
13th July 2012, 09:38
GS = 2 valves per cylinder while GSX = 4 valves per cylinder.
(Unfortunately, no-one ever told the 'Merkins).
Flip
13th July 2012, 09:43
I had one also.
I think I also still have the workshop manual, if I can find it (its been through at least 2 earthquakes and two moves) its free to a good home.
Just PM me.
jellywrestler
13th July 2012, 10:23
GS = 2 valves per cylinder while GSX = 4 valves per cylinder.
(Unfortunately, no-one ever told the 'Merkins).true to a point Steve but the four valve ones were still badged GS in America so the odd one still surfaces here
Jantar
18th July 2012, 15:29
I just discovered I still have the origional Suzuki Service Manual for the GSX750/ES series.
Akzle
18th July 2012, 17:31
I just discovered I still have the origional Suzuki Service Manual for the GSX750/ES series.
giz it....
caseye
19th July 2012, 00:39
Na, fuck em, make him beg and plead a bit, just for shitz and giggles.
Can't think of a better reason , can you????
Akzle, good on you for having the gumption to come straight out and ask.
Tigadee
15th August 2012, 13:27
Na, fuck em, make him beg and plead a bit, just for shitz and giggles.
Can't think of a better reason , can you????
Corrrr, you're a hard man, you are!
Have PMed Jantar and Flip and 'begged' for the manuals... :laugh:
Jantar
16th August 2012, 12:46
Corrrr, you're a hard man, you are!
Have PMed Jantar and Flip and 'begged' for the manuals... :laugh:
Manual on its way.
I had the GSX750ESG. It was a very versatile bike and could be used for everything from commuting to long distance touring. I even won the national Road Trial Championship on it in 1989 (KR500 for those who remember it). You'll love it, and a great way to step up to medium capacity bikes.
Jantar
16th August 2012, 12:50
GS = 2 valves per cylinder while GSX = 4 valves per cylinder.
(Unfortunately, no-one ever told the 'Merkins).
But the GSX750ES series is 4 valves per cyclinder, so GSX prefix is correct.
Tigadee
16th August 2012, 13:59
Manual on its way.
I had the GSX750ESG. It was a very versatile bike and could be used for everything from commuting to long distance touring. I even won the national Road Trial Championship on it in 1989 (KR500 for those who remember it). You'll love it, and a great way to step up to medium capacity bikes.
Thank you very much! :woohoo:
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