Worth complying my old TS75?

[328FTW]

First up I've read up on re-complying something somewhat. I have an old TS75 from 1974 or so. Kinda gutless but it's fun enough on the farm. My mum bought it brand new way way way back in the day. It has done 2500km, in generally good nick apart from surface rust from sitting but the forks were kept greased.

I could sell it as is, put the cash at something newer, nicer.

Could comply it, tidy it up and sell it

Or comply it and just use it to get learners/restricted, use it occasionally then park it/sell it.



But I'm looking at it on a cost vs reward basis, I'm not spending $400 getting it on road then selling it for a dollar. Likewise I'm not going to really undersell it as a farmbike if it's worth something as a more usable bike. I've looked on tardme a little bit but there aren't many to directly compare. A couple beaters though, just as a tidy hack it might get $300 or so. As a usable bike after repairs I have no idea really. I'll try get some pics of it if it matters, still has the original manual under the seat in the plastic bag though.

I'm biketarded, don't watch the market or how much goes wrong bringing a 70's bike up to spec so I'm asking. It does have some history though, I learned to ride on it.

[DR650gary]

Comply it, keep it and enjoy the ride. You know the history of the bike and there will be little difference in cost in the end.

I, for one, wish I had kept some of my older rides so your mum may thank you.

Cheers

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-490115257.htm

[Ender EnZed]

Don't bother putting time and money into getting it back on the road if your only goal is to make a profit. There's not going to be a big market for a road legal 40 year old 75cc two stroke for use as anything other than a novelty item.

[Akzle]

First up I've read up on re-complying something somewhat. I have an old TS75 from 1974 or so. Kinda gutless but it's fun enough on the farm. My mum bought it brand new way way way back in the day. It has done 2500km, in generally good nick apart from surface rust from sitting but the forks were kept greased.

I could sell it as is, put the cash at something newer, nicer.

Could comply it, tidy it up and sell it

Or comply it and just use it to get learners/restricted, use it occasionally then park it/sell it.



But I'm looking at it on a cost vs reward basis, I'm not spending $400 getting it on road then selling it for a dollar. Likewise I'm not going to really undersell it as a farmbike if it's worth something as a more usable bike. I've looked on tardme a little bit but there aren't many to directly compare. A couple beaters though, just as a tidy hack it might get $300 or so. As a usable bike after repairs I have no idea really. I'll try get some pics of it if it matters, still has the original manual under the seat in the plastic bag though.

I'm biketarded, don't watch the market or how much goes wrong bringing a 70's bike up to spec so I'm asking. It does have some history though, I learned to ride on it.

don't now how much a small engine is worth. i had a ts185 for a while, schweeet little thrasher.
"road worthy" always improves sale-ability - it shows that the bike is good enough to be "legal"
people who want a farm thrash will buy a farm thrash. i can't imagine any going for the small engine though... (is it a full size frame? suitable for kids?)

trade in would probably be the most beneficial $$wise to you - shop around dealers. but personally, given the money, i'd do a resto - rego on it and sell it as a minty.

[328FTW]

It's not that big, used to ride it when I was about 12ish. Like I said I'm just biketarded, it's not something I know enough about yet. I do enjoy fixing things up however I have a lot to fix right now. But at the same time with the low kms a quick clean up and as long as I get a good complier it's a cheap bike and I do know the bike, just it can also be a nightmare if it needs anything extensive even though I doubt that. It's not perfectly suitable but can always upgrade.

[328FTW]

Drag this back from the dead.

Spent a few days fixing it up. Stripped all down to the frame then sanded the surface rust off the frame, sanded the fairings down and painted them fiat orange, frame/motor is in acrylic Jet Black paint. Did lots of little things like got rid of the huge chain slack. Carb was way way out of whack so reset the float level and rode around with a screwdriver stopping every little bit to wind the mixture in and out using my butt dyno and plug colour to tune it. Had to redo a bit of the exhaust then stripped the rust off and used stove paint to paint it again. Runs really nice now, starts even with the most lack luster kick in the guts.

Shitty cellphone picture after getting it back together tonight, haven't done the tank yet is the only thing.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/328FTW/2012-08-13180820.jpg




I have some new tyres for it to. My question for today is the right rear shock has some corrosion on the shaft. I'd assume it would fail compliance on that? Not a major but still.

The last owner was my mum, she died 3 years ago. I'm not sure where the papers are for the bike, the plate seems to be gone although it might still be around. The factory stampings are intact though, but it's been out of the system about 35 years. I'm unsure if that's going to be a problem when re-registering, anyone clued up on that side? Would the chassis number still be in the system after such a long period of time or is it worked more along the lines of it's only logged as interesting to the police/finance/whatever if it has an entry, no entry = cleared to go? I'm not sure how that side of it works

[Padmei]

I can't answer any of the questions however just wanted to say it looks very cool - heaps better than what you described. Good work

[328FTW]

Thanks. It looked a lot different a few days ago. Hardly ran either, wouldn't rev out, often died without warning. It still needs a bunch of new bolts, I snapped a bunch off taking it apart. It stops the rust though, I wouldn't of wanted it to get worse.

Will make it easier to wash and keep clean to. The frame was full of wheelbearing grease which was being used to oil the chain. Horrible stuff.

[gammaguy]

oh dear

my weakness is small old two stroke dirt bikes

I have already restored a few and some are now in collectors museums

I want it if its a runner or at least all there

how much?

[sinfull]

I'm with this fella ^^^^ How much

[328FTW]

Uhhh pass, I have no idea what they are worth? I was just going to ride it around town first, see if I liked it. Although it is neat to think someone would do a nicer job fixing it, I just wanted it good enough to be usable cause it's kinda neat

It's all there, like I said it's done 2500 km's. It has done a lot of sitting around. I wouldn't mind something bigger though.

[fridayflash]

great little bike!
i say either keep it as is, or sell to an appreciative buyer cos road legality would probably be a waste of money
unless you know of a light weight high school kid tht might use it

p.s i have one exactly the same, but in blue trim (original)
much the worse for wear tho..5000km's on the clock

[dino3310]

Tidy it up, keep it. maybe your kids could learn to ride on it too.
Then in 10-15 years tidy(restore) it up again and sell it to gammaguy or sinfull for lots of $$$ it should be a real collecters item by then:msn-wink:

its a wee gem very old skool cool

MHO I wouldnt comply it

[328FTW]

I found the old plate!

It's an old black plate, the warrant ran out later than I thought. 1984 it lapsed out of the system. Have the original papers from buying it to, the address it was registered. Even has the km's when it was first registered in February 1977, 4kms on the clock.

I'm still kind of keen to register it, I have all the paperwork now. Apart from that shock I see no reason it wouldn't fly through inspection. It's not a ball of fire but cool for around town, I haven't actually even got my learners (when I get time I'll do something about that) and lams hasn't kicked in yet so I'm in no rush to get something bigger yet anyway. Keeps it from turning into a ball of rust in the corner.

[fridayflash]

if youre thinking of getting it legal for yourself to use
then i say go for it! around town itd have enough pep
and a bit of a novelty factor eh
a kid at my boys school is riding around on an ac50
approx 76 model which was my first bike
real cool!

[328FTW]

Am I missing something here?

I read the sticky on getting bikes back on the road, made sense. Went to the cop shop to get a declaration that it is not of interest just to get the ball rolling. They said they don't do it anymore, have to fill out this other form I got from VTNZ, then take that to a Justice of the Peace who checks the frame numbers and signs off on it. Or at least that's what I was told should happen. So lost, what does a JP have to do with anything? I have the form, it's a declaration kinda deal. Seems stupid, then again I went through this kinda BS getting the LVV cert for my mr2.

Kind of stalled out after that, if my honda sells tomorrow I'm just going to go the stripper route. Throw money at it in the hopes it gives me the ride of my life.....well maybe a 75cc won't do that but at least I will feel better about wasting money on my hobbies for a while.

[ktm84mxc]

The JP's words only there to verify the numbers are correct, you go through the same crap when verifying your ID to get a student loan/passport etc.
If it were my TS I'd be keeping it and just doing a sympathetic make over trying to keep it original as possible. Regret selling a 78 TS185 i had.

[328FTW]

It really depends on what I find, I was keeping a lookout for some deals over winter but there wasn't really any that caught my interests. If something better comes up I'll grab it otherwise I don't see why not just use the thing; I do know however that it doesn't hurt to at least prod the issue, sometimes you get lucky and meet the right people to make it happen. Alternatively I get lucky and find another bike I like, either or, not fussy. I'm going to look at a 400cc tomorrow if it's still available. Honda sold tonight so have cash in hand for whatever route I go.

Regardless the bike needed attention, left too long they just go to hell. I'm fixing a 1930's mower at the moment, freaking nightmare.

[328FTW]

Well those that said just let it sit pretty get their wish. I bought this today.


http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/328FTW/Bike/2012-08-19210252.jpg





It makes the 75 kinda redundant although I'll keep working on it so it doesn't become as bad as it was. Most things have been done now anyway, it was "ready to ride" when I spotted the 250 honda. 4 stroke, liquid cooled, enough power to get me in trouble for a starter road bike. I really didn't like some of the peaky noisy 2 strokes you are allowed on learners. This seems ok though.

Naturally my first ride on it was in the pitch black night pissing with rain, was still an ok first impression. Heavier than a lot of other bikes I looked at though. Going to look on trademe tomorrow so I can cry at all the better bargains that suddenly appear.

[dino3310]

is that a 88/89 VT250

[328FTW]

88 VT250F, yes. There are a tonne of spares. Knowing me there will be some renowned reason why it's the worst purchase in the world but eh. I don't think I've bought anything in my entire life that isn't temperamental for some reason or another. The V twin seems a lot nicer than some of the stuff I've been trying.

[Eddieb]

I don't recall any specific issues with them, they were good bikes.

For a lot honda's of that era regulator/rectifiers were a maintenance item, mainly because Honda mounted them under the right side panel and they had no space or airflow to dissipate heat. Also keep an ear on the cam chain and tensioner for odd noises as they can wear out and loosen which can have bad results. Those are not model specific warnings though, they can apply to most Honda V Twin's or 4's from around that same era.

[dino3310]

My ol man had one when i had my 82Dr500, i could beat him off the mark but that 250 wound right out past my top end gearing:facepalm:
was a great bike till i put it in the bonnet of a nieghbours car:shutup::laugh: .
if its been looked after mate you shouldnt have any issues, good bikes them ol Honda's:msn-wink: