So they found the "God" particle

[noobi]

Now we know how stuff has mass. More scientific evidence for how the big bang theory explains existence.

I imagine Peter Higgs feels pretty good right now. Predicting this 50 years ago, and being proven to be, at least partially, correct in his lifetime.


This cartoon explains it pretty well, starts ~0:40
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[Mental Trousers]

That is brilliant. Higgs Boson and the LHC for Dummies :niceone:

[Oblivion]

Don't forget he's 100$ richer :niceone:

[Oakie]

And Stephen Hawking is $100 poorer

http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_stephen-hawking-loses-100-bet-over-god-particle-discover_1710894

[Macontour]

Way beyond my level of understanding. I tried to listen to an explanation of Black Holes once and I lost it after the explanation went something like..."there is a huge amount of nothing, so much nothing that it weighs more than you can imagine, and because there is so much nothing weighing so much, even light can't get out":blink:

[Quasievil]

Its A Countdown now until the New Weapon of Mass destruction is developed, this will make splitting the atom look like kids play !

[Swoop]

Surely it should be called the "atheist particle"?

[wharekura]

Its A Countdown now until the New Weapon of Mass destruction is developed, this will make splitting the atom look like kids play !
Our parallel existence is probably already dead and we are in another dimension as we type - Lost was just preparing our minds so we don't freak out too much when the truth hits us

[Usarka]

Our parallel existence is probably already dead and we are in another dimension as we type - Lost was just preparing our minds so we don't freak out too much when the truth hits us

It's ok I just decided to have a piece of toast so I've created a new universe.

[wharekura]

It's ok I just decided to have a piece of toast so I've created a new universe.Just dont use vegimite - its a bit on the dark side *evil darth vadar laugh*

[Tigadee]

To different people, it'll be different things:
1. Feminists - The Venus Code, but sometimes also known to feminists as the Burnt Bra Ashes...
2. Indians - The Ghandi Robes
3. Buddhists - The Buddha Bits
4. Lesbians - The L Particle
5. Gays - The Sensitive Side
6. Surfers - The Freakin' Awesom' Stuff... Dude!

The thought that blows my mind is that we are made up of this stuff too!

As Carl Sagan said before, everything that has blown up and clumped back together into suns and planets to make up where we are and what we're on is in us and around us - we are made of "star stuff".

[CookMySock]

Arrgh introverted intuitive thinkers keep using up valuable time paraphrasing! :weird:
We heard you the first time! Just skip ahead to your next point!

[bogan]

So why all the hullabaloo with this one? Aren't there 12 fundamental particles already?

[bogan]

Its A Countdown now until the New Weapon of Mass destruction is developed, this will make splitting the atom look like kids play !

Speaking of which, they said no antigtrav was possible with this new particle. What a fucking let down, how are we supposed to get grav guns and grav drives for spaceships now :(

[Big Dave]

Surely it should be called the "atheist particle"?

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[noobi]

So why all the hullabaloo with this one? Aren't there 12 fundamental particles already?

There are, but they needed to prove this one existed for the model in which the rest of them belong actually applies.
That being 'The Standard Model', this is kind of the elusive final piece to the puzzle. There is now proof behind why stuff is the way it is, a whole lot more closer to being truth than theory.

[Winston001]

So why all the hullabaloo with this one? Aren't there 12 fundamental particles already?

Um well spose. Personally I got to up, down, and strange quarks, then gluons at which point it all got hazy.

We've never seen or detected a graviton but my guess is the Higgs Boson is it. The particle which attracts other particles and appears to look like gravity.

Course could be wrong. :msn-wink:

[Winston001]

....and I was just sayin to Mrs Schrodinger t'other day, where's that blessed cat, when suddenly there he is out of his box and playing with his Higgs Boson like he'd never left.

[bogan]

Another question, did they create it, or did they find it? Cos they were smashing thing up pretty good with the hopes of making new things, right? Or did the God particle just pop up to see what all the racket was about?

[Coldrider]

Another question, did they create it, or did they find it? Cos they were smashing thing up pretty good with the hopes of making new things, right? Or did the God particle just pop up to see what all the racket was about?I think they have deduced what they are looking for exists (the glue), or they have created a comic synopsis and haven't given the characters names yet.

[ellipsis]

...it's very exciting. like cricket...we are on the threshold of being able to reach through a wormhole and scratch our own arse before it's even itchy...cant wait...

[noobi]

Another question, did they create it, or did they find it? Cos they were smashing thing up pretty good with the hopes of making new things, right? Or did the God particle just pop up to see what all the racket was about?

Like Coldrider said, they just have strong evidence (>99%) that what they think is there, is there.
You cant really see things smaller than a single atom, so working out that its there isnt as easy as looking.
They can do fusion, combining of atoms, without a collider. They aren't trying to make things with the collider, just work out whats in the stuff they're smashing up.

[Brian d marge]

....and I was just sayin to Mrs Schrodinger t'other day, where's that blessed cat, when suddenly there he is out of his box and playing with his Higgs Boson like he'd never left.

Sorry it twas with Lord Lucan

have it on good authority from bloke down the pub

Stephen

[Coldrider]

They have found a particle which fits with Higgs theory, if I read the full artical I would be lead to believe the journo discovered it.

[Ocean1]

They have found a particle which fits with Higgs theory, if I read the full artical I would be lead to believe the journo discovered it.

That they haven't done. In examining the debris of collisions in the LHD they've found evidence of the existance, (better than 99% confidence) of entities likely to result in such collisions IF Higgs theory is correct.

[Coldrider]

That they haven't done. In examining the debris of collisions in the LHD they've found evidence of the existance, (better than 99% confidence) of entities likely to result in such collisions IF Higgs theory is correct.hence my post number #20, which was before I read an article today, which says they have, which comes back to my remark about the journalism.

[avgas]

They have found proof it "consistently" exists.......aka they have data showing particles consistently changing. Mr Hawking lost the bet because he stated that they would never find prove that it 'could' exist (within his lifetime).

Anyone know what they are currently doing with the other 8 or so particles that don't exist in all known things? I mean what use is ingredients if you can't bake a cake?

[Coldrider]

ATLAS has found a 5 sigma particle, and CNS have found a 4.9 sigma particle (4.9-sigma signal of a new particle with a mass of 126.5 GigaelectronVolts (GeV) and 125.2 GeV respectively - a result which falls slap bang in the middle of the tough-to-explore region where many physicists were adamant the Higgs was hiding). Disregarding the meaning of 'found', are they talking up the same particle, or different particles.

[Brian d marge]

but I cant see what all the fuss is all about ? Instead of spending how much , ? on this machine ..they could have talked to my wife , she speaks to god on a regular basis

when I come home from the pub pissed as ,,,,,,,oh god

when I give her one on friday nite ( after the pub ) ...oh god

when I do the washing .....oh god

when she get s my credit card bill , for a that month ...oh god

when ive been eating curry and Im watching tv , let one of those ripp roarer curry farts loose .......oh god

guiness farts .......oh god


Im sure with such an open channel of communication , she could have asked about a particle belonging to him upstairs !

in fact if they dont mind waiting a bit , till I get home tonite , I will ask him myself

Stephen