Spoke replacement?

[pete-blen]

Is it possable or has anyone replaced a full set of spokes
one at a time..?.... Dose the wheel stay true...?

Whats the best way....
opposing spokes....
opposing spokes , opposite sides....

[Gremlin]

Depends on the spokes and rim and layout. The cross lace ones of the big BMWs are a science unto themselves.

No, if you take out a spoke the wheel will go out of true, simply because the spokes are what's holding the rim in place it needs to be...

[awayatc]

when you start with a straight rim, you can put spokes back with a bit of time and patience.......And keep rim straight....
Pays to go to a pro though if you are unsure ....

[jellywrestler]

Is it possable or has anyone replaced a full set of spokes
one at a time..?.... Dose the wheel stay true...?

Whats the best way....
opposing spokes....
opposing spokes , opposite sides....
at the end of the day it's better to go the whole hog and strip it.

Get some chipboard and make up a jig for the wheel both so it's clamped in via the rim and the axle is held to AND the offset is perfect too.
Take heaps of photos, then find out the easiest spoke to take out, number that on the hub and the rim and work from there.
That 'easiest' spoke to take out will of course be the last to go in.
you'll be needing a jig to spin the wheel to get it true once finished too.
got piccies of the wheel to post here incase there's clues for us to help more?


is it 36 or 40 spokes? 36 is easy as it's divisible by 360 degrees, 40 is a little harder...

[pete-blen]

at the end of the day it's better to go the whole hog and strip it.

Get some chipboard and make up a jig for the wheel both so it's clamped in via the rim and the axle is held to AND the offset is perfect too.
Take heaps of photos, then find out the easiest spoke to take out, number that on the hub and the rim and work from there.
That 'easiest' spoke to take out will of course be the last to go in.
you'll be needing a jig to spin the wheel to get it true once finished too.
got piccies of the wheel to post here incase there's clues for us to help more?


is it 36 or 40 spokes? 36 is easy as it's divisible by 360 degrees, 40 is a little harder...


They are 36 spoke wheels..
The chip board idea seems a good one..
bike's a 77 Montesa trials bike...

Is there anywhere that can re-spoke them

[Kickaha]

Is there anywhere that can re-spoke them

Couple of places, I've had good service from Tom Morris at wheel and spoke http://www.wheelandspoke.co.nz/
There is also a guy in Christchurch whose name escapes me in Buchan street who is very good and been doing it for decades

[dogsnbikes]

They are 36 spoke wheels..
The chip board idea seems a good one..
bike's a 77 Montesa trials bike...

Is there anywhere that can re-spoke them

Craig At hamco does a great Job,Did the rear wheel on my Cafe Racer

http://yellow.co.nz/y/Motorcycles+%26+Scooters/Hamco+Industries/100163498_1187.html

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[pete-blen]

Couple of places, I've had good service from Tom Morris at wheel and spoke http://www.wheelandspoke.co.nz/
There is also a guy in Christchurch whose name escapes me in Buchan street who is very good and been doing it for decades


Would it be this guy in Buchan St CHCH ?
http://yellow.co.nz/y/Motorcycles+%26+Scooters/Wheel+Building+Services/102920464_1187.html

Theres also this out fit in CHCH..
http://www.trademe.co.nz/services/trades/automotive/auction-368390808.htm

[Kickaha]

Would it be this guy in Buchan St CHCH ?
http://yellow.co.nz/y/Motorcycles+%26+Scooters/Wheel+Building+Services/102920464_1187.html

Theres also this out fit in CHCH..
http://www.trademe.co.nz/services/trades/automotive/auction-368390808.htm

yes to the first one, I haven't used the second guy but some people I know have and said the service was good (wasn't wheel related though)

[jellywrestler]

They are 36 spoke wheels..
The chip board idea seems a good one..
bike's a 77 Montesa trials bike...

Is there anywhere that can re-spoke them

for a bike like that the best around is ken bain in lower hutt.
PM me if you want to send it up and i can sort it if you like as i don't have his contact details on me failing that ring darbis in petone they'll know how to get hold of him

[warewolf]

NordieBro suggested to cable tie all the spoke crossovers, lay the two rims together and move all the spokes from one to the other. Sorry can't remember if it was all off then all on, or one at a time. Was going to follow-up with him before I attempted it. Said it would be a good enough job, same as a quick/cheap professional true-up. When I was into mtb in the late eighties, I used true my wheels better than most bike shops, with little effort. I was getting about a 98% true, they'd only do 95%. So a home job is not necessarily inferior. I've had my 640 rims straightened and trued here by a pro wheel builder, and they've come back 100%... work of art, I definitely can't do that. But I feel comfortable with having a go and measuring the result afterwards - I can always get it trued by a pro if I'm not happy with my own work.

[Flip]

It will work but the wheel will have to be trued up afterwards.

[Conquiztador]

Hope you got it all sorted. If not then I could help. Used to build spoked custom wheels 36 - 120 spoked ones. And also rebuild wheels for people plus fit odd hubs to different size rims.

Do you have a set of spokes or do you need them made?

[pete-blen]

Hope you got it all sorted. If not then I could help. Used to build spoked custom wheels 36 - 120 spoked ones. And also rebuild wheels for people plus fit odd hubs to different size rims.

Do you have a set of spokes or do you need them made?


Got the new rims... waiting on the spokes to arrive...
I have done my 1 hour Youtube wheel building course:woohoo:
So what could possabley go wrong...:facepalm:

[Conquiztador]

Got the new rims... waiting on the spokes to arrive...
I have done my 1 hour Youtube wheel building course:woohoo:
So what could possabley go wrong...:facepalm:

OK. Good Luck! If you get stuck just ask and I can probably point you in the right direction.

Just in case:
- Remember the pattern of the old spokes. And measure any possible offset BEFORE you take the wheel apart. On back wheels also make sure you get the tube valve hole on the right side! (Front wheels normally have them in middle)
- Put a little grease on the thread of the spoke (stops them from seizing later)
- If you do not have a jig, have the axle in the wheel and clamp on somewhere safe!
- Screw in all nipples approx same amount before you start the job of trueing up the wheel. (The nipple should have a slot for a flathead screwdriver)
- Use a proper nipple spanner so you do not damage the nipples!!!
- Don't over-tighten them initially!
- Keep measuring the offset (if there is one on your wheel), or that the rim is in the middle of the hub. At same time keep measuring the "throw" up/down of the rim. Best to work on both at the same time little by little.
- If steel rim there will be a spot where the rim has been welded together. This spot will never be fully true.
- I normally keep working until I have less than 0.5mm "throw" sideways and up/down.
- You should always measure the rim on the inside (where the tyre fits) as this is what matters when you fit a tyre and want it to run true!
- When you think you are done, use a small spanner and tap each spoke. They should have the same "tone". If not you have more work to do...
- If needed use a angle grinder to grind off any spokes that stick out through the nipple in to where the tube will sit.
- Fit a good rim tape to protect the tube!
- After approx 500 - 1000 Km's check the tightness of the spokes.