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Rosie
16th July 2012, 12:55
I'm looking at getting a pair of heated gloves, or heated glove liners.
Does anyone have heated gloves (or liners) that they would (or wouldn't) recommend?

Liners seem a bit more versatile, but I worry they'd end up a bit big and bulky with my tiny wee hands.

duckonin
16th July 2012, 13:13
I'm looking at getting a pair of heated gloves, or heated glove liners.
Does anyone have heated gloves (or liners) that they would (or wouldn't) recommend?

Liners seem a bit more versatile, but I worry they'd end up a bit big and bulky with my tiny wee hands.

:(What ,heated grips do not work for you ?

Rosie
16th July 2012, 13:18
:(What ,heated grips do not work for you ?

My heated grips work... I have them on most of the year. So when it actually gets cold, I need even more heating.
I know heated gloves seem extreme for NZ... and this is not a decision I have come to lightly, but nothing else is keeping me warm enough in winter. My hands need MOAR POWER :crybaby:

oneofsix
16th July 2012, 13:59
I've been tempted by the heated glove liner option and am quietly looking too.
Thing is I don't really want to plug into the bikes electrics if it is possible to avoid it. The advantage I see in the gloves is that you keep them no matter what bike you ride but this only works really well if they aren't wired into the bike. If they are wired into the bike then when you change bikes you have to get the harness and controller again. An option would be wiring in an auxiliary power outlet to the bike loom and the controller into that. However as I only need the heated gloves for about an hour max on the commute I was wondering if there was a set that were rechargeable battery powered that would do the trick.
Thinking liners as that means I can retain or change the main gloves and still wear the same gloves when the heated option is not required.

GTRMAN
16th July 2012, 14:09
I've been tempted by the heated glove liner option and am quietly looking too.
Thing is I don't really want to plug into the bikes electrics if it is possible to avoid it. The advantage I see in the gloves is that you keep them no matter what bike you ride but this only works really well if they aren't wired into the bike. If they are wired into the bike then when you change bikes you have to get the harness and controller again. An option would be wiring in an auxiliary power outlet to the bike loom and the controller into that. However as I only need the heated gloves for about an hour max on the commute I was wondering if there was a set that were rechargeable battery powered that would do the trick.
Thinking liners as that means I can retain or change the main gloves and still wear the same gloves when the heated option is not required.

Webbike world has reviews on a number of battery operated heated gloves...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-gloves/

Or have a look at these guys

http://www.warmthru.com/

Rosie
16th July 2012, 14:13
I've been tempted by the heated glove liner option and am quietly looking too.
Thing is I don't really want to plug into the bikes electrics if it is possible to avoid it. The advantage I see in the gloves is that you keep them no matter what bike you ride but this only works really well if they aren't wired into the bike. If they are wired into the bike then when you change bikes you have to get the harness and controller again. An option would be wiring in an auxiliary power outlet to the bike loom and the controller into that. However as I only need the heated gloves for about an hour max on the commute I was wondering if there was a set that were rechargeable battery powered that would do the trick.
Thinking liners as that means I can retain or change the main gloves and still wear the same gloves when the heated option is not required.

There are battery powered liners out there, presumably the batteries are rechargeable, I didn't really look.
I'll be getting something that is wired onto the bike. I've got that much extra stuff tacked onto the WR that if I was to change bikes, heated glove wiring would be the least of my worries.

oneofsix
16th July 2012, 14:50
There are battery powered liners out there, presumably the batteries are rechargeable, I didn't really look.
I'll be getting something that is wired onto the bike. I've got that much extra stuff tacked onto the WR that if I was to change bikes, heated glove wiring would be the least of my worries.

the poor WR is electricity generator :lol:
Looks like for what I want I am better to look outside motorcycling.
There is the argument that if the core is warm the hands and feet will be but this is almost Tui billboard as far as my hand are concerned even if the scientists say its true. http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/7205016/Ask-a-scientist-Feet-keep-us-warm

Rosie
16th July 2012, 14:55
the poor WR is electricity generator :lol:

What do you mean? It's currently only running the heated grips, GPS and the comms system :facepalm:

Bald Eagle
16th July 2012, 15:08
was looking at handlebar mitts, and there is heated model in the oxford range, bit still wired to the bike i think

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Quasievil
16th July 2012, 15:53
What do you mean? It's currently only running the heated grips, GPS and the comms system :facepalm:

Might as well go half a step further and get a Car ?

caspernz
16th July 2012, 19:00
Might as well go half a step further and get a Car ?

Harsh as Quasi is, try silk or merino inner gloves which you can get at places such as Kathmandu or MacPac, then if that PLUS hot grips ain't enough...indeed it be time for a car ;)

FJRider
16th July 2012, 19:40
What do you mean? It's currently only running the heated grips, GPS and the comms system :facepalm:

With all that stuff hooked up ... I'm supprised the bike still runs ...

pete376403
16th July 2012, 19:45
Probelm I find with heated grips is that the palms of my hands get really warm but the outside, and especially my fingertips get cold to the point of being painful.
I'm probably going to get some hippo hands or similar, the KLR is deemed to be so ugly that these could make it better looking.

tri boy
16th July 2012, 20:08
Rosie, kanny will be very interested in your heated glove desison, as her hands suffer badly also.
(Lucky she has a very warm heart:hug:).

Rosie
17th July 2012, 08:19
Probelm I find with heated grips is that the palms of my hands get really warm but the outside, and especially my fingertips get cold to the point of being painful.
I'm probably going to get some hippo hands or similar, the KLR is deemed to be so ugly that these could make it better looking.

I've made myself some fleecy hand/wrist warmers that are thicker on the outside, so the heat can get in from the grips, but can't get back out again via the back of my hand. They do help, but as you say, keeping fingers warm is a challenge, especially on interesting terrain where you are moving your hands around a lot, so aren't staying in constant contact with the heated grips (and that is unfortunately also the time where you really need to have warm nimble fingers)

I must say I secretly coveted a pair of hippo hands, but the discussions in the adventure forum have made me a little wary of them now.

Scruffygit
17th July 2012, 21:47
I've had a pair of these for the last six years - first two in the UK, second two here, although haven't used them for the last two as it's not really been cold enough:

http://www.biketek-heated-clothing.co.uk/biketek_heated_gloves.html

I bought them having had heated grips on my old GSXF but was annoyed that I had to let them go with the bike. I tried a set of the Oxford Hot Hands - You wrap them around your existing grips and they work as normal heated grips - but they made everything too big and bulky, and didn't solve the basic problem I have with heated grips - hot palms but freezing backs of hands. So tried these gloves.

Picked them up at a show in the UK on sale special so they were chosen on price rather than performance.

Simple connection to the battery and a fused harness runs to wherever you want it. You can get fancy mounts but I just left it poking out from underneath the seat. A separate harness goes in your jacket, running down the sleeve to the gloves and a water proof connector joins the two. The right hand glove has a temperature controller with three heat settings plus an off.

Pros.

Really comfortable.
Warm, Very warm on max setting, for most of the hand.

Cons.

Not particularly waterproof.
The thumb is only heated to halfway and the thumb area is quite baggy so the thumb on both hands gets quite cold when the rest of the hand is nice and toasty. On long runs I used to take my thumbs out out of their bit and have them in the main body (palm/hand area) of the glove. Not ideal but better than being distracted by frostbite.
Because of the controller you can't disconnect the right hand glove so end up walking around looking like a child whose Mother has tied his mittens on a piece of string.
The connector to the gloves are quite bulky so you end up with big loops of cable at your wrists.

They worked well (apart from the Thumbs) through two UK winters and two here. One of the glove cables broke midway through the second year here but an easy fix although all the tape around the repair has added to the bulk in that area.

Were they worth the money - yes. Would I buy another pair of heated gloves - Oh Yes, most definitely. Would I buy another pair of these - No.

CookMySock
18th July 2012, 12:18
[...] So when it actually gets cold, I need even more heating. [...] and this is not a decision I have come to lightly, but nothing else is keeping me warm enough in winter. My hands need MOAR POWER :crybaby:Your core will cut circulation to your extremities when its' latent heat is threatened (when you get cold) - my point being, warming your extremities will help somewhat but what you really need is heat added to your core, especially if you are already cold.

Which is why I'd suggest you looked at spending real coin on a heated vest with some grunt behind it - the highest watts rating you can find. It is going to cost you, but it's something you will keep forever, and it's something that will enable you to simply do as you choose - a thing I understand chix value greatly hehe.

FJRider
18th July 2012, 13:22
Your core will cut circulation to your extremities when its' latent heat is threatened (when you get cold) - my point being, warming your extremities will help somewhat but what you really need is heat added to your core, especially if you are already cold.

Which is why I'd suggest you looked at spending real coin on a heated vest with some grunt behind it - the highest watts rating you can find. It is going to cost you, but it's something you will keep forever, and it's something that will enable you to simply do as you choose - a thing I understand chix value greatly hehe.

Proper warm gear ... and plenty of layers underneath the jacket/pants. And decent winter-weight gloves. Acknkowledge that in winter it will be cold and dress accordingly.
Some chick's do dress more in the interest of fashion, looks and comfort, while wearing the gear. Then moan because they're cold. Bulky gear does keep you warm. Granted ... when you stop, you need to take a few layers off ... such is winter riding.

I do plenty of winter rides down here with the temperature hovering around zero. I dont have heated grips (nor intending to get any) nor do I wear a heated vest. I dont however go for as long as I do in summer without stops ... and ten minutes in a warm room does wonders for your morale.
Dont rush the dressing ... even a bit slower speed on the road if it is really cold.

Reliance on electrical gear to keep warm is not good, if problems with the bike (it, or it's electrics) occur. Waiting for a lift home in the cold is not fun. Nor is a walk in the cold either.

Rosie
18th July 2012, 14:22
Proper warm gear ... and plenty of layers underneath the jacket/pants. And decent winter-weight gloves. Acknkowledge that in winter it will be cold and dress accordingly.
Some chick's do dress more in the interest of fashion, looks and comfort, while wearing the gear. Then moan because they're cold. Bulky gear does keep you warm. Granted ... when you stop, you need to take a few layers off ... such is winter riding.

I do plenty of winter rides down here with the temperature hovering around zero. I dont have heated grips (nor intending to get any) nor do I wear a heated vest. I dont however go for as long as I do in summer without stops ... and ten minutes in a warm room does wonders for your morale.
Dont rush the dressing ... even a bit slower speed on the road if it is really cold.

Reliance on electrical gear to keep warm is not good, if problems with the bike (it, or it's electrics) occur. Waiting for a lift home in the cold is not fun. Nor is a walk in the cold either.

I know that heated gear isn't ideal, and I did dismiss the idea of heated gloves for several years, but I really am at my wits end keeping my hands warm enough in the middle of winter - especially on adventure rides where you don't always have the option of taking breaks inside to warm back up.

I generally don't have a problem keeping my core warm; I have good gear (including winter weight gloves, which I replace regularly), I wear a lot of layers (wool and thermal fabrics, no cotton), I have handguards, I wear fleecy wrist warmers, I'm not above wearing my rain gear (1 piece + overgloves) in fine weather to keep a bit more heat in, but sometimes it isn't quite enough, and I get painful, immobile fingers.

I'm going to make myself a set of larger elephant-ear style handguards, to see if that makes a difference. If not, it will be heated glove-liner time.

oneofsix
18th July 2012, 15:05
I'm not 100% convinced on the idea that keeping the core warm is enough. If like me you have a warm heart :sweatdrop but suffer cold fingers then it doesn't seem to matter how warm the core is if there is cold getting to the fingers, they will hurt. The theory works to a point and has help a bit this winter but there have still been days when the core has been quite cosy thank you but the finger tips were starting to feel pain..

Good luck with the elephant ears. I saw in another thread Ratti was making herself some as well. I will be interested in how they work out.

Rosie
18th July 2012, 15:28
Good luck with the elephant ears. I saw in another thread Ratti was making herself some as well. I will be interested in how they work out.

I'll let you know how I get on. I think I'll stick some yamaha racing stripe decals on them, so they look factory :2thumbsup

pete376403
18th July 2012, 18:05
I've got an old air force flying suit (Windak brand, it's either WWII or very soon after) hanging up in the shed - fully wired up for heating, including heated glove liners and heated boot liners. The boots and gloves get theri power from two dome fasteners on the cuffs, so there's a single power lead for the whole thing. Heated helmet liner as well. Typical flying suit with zip pockets everywhere, It's pretty heavy and the biggest problem - it needs 24volts (it does bugger all on 12 volts.)

When I get the sidecar hung off the 1100 there will be a couple of good size batteries for ballast so the suit might get pressed back into service.

(or I could stick it on Ebay - I saw just the glove liners listed for GBP160)

CookMySock
24th July 2012, 07:37
I'm not 100% convinced on the idea that keeping the core warm is enough. If like me you have a warm heart :sweatdrop but suffer cold fingers then it doesn't seem to matter how warm the core is if there is cold getting to the fingers, they will hurt.I will go along with this theory. Even with my heated grips so hot they hurt my hands - my fingers will still burn from the cold on long rides on frosty mornings. These rides, however, are few and far between.


[....] The boots and gloves get theri power from two dome fasteners on the cuffs, so there's a single power lead for the whole thing.This is a damn good idea!

If only I could find some conductive plastic, I'd be back into building heated gear again - especially for girlies who are not coping at all - I'd do anything for them! :not:

sootie
31st August 2012, 14:25
Heating tends to draw a lot of power.
If your bike is using some kind of field controlled alternator (like the normal car arrangement) all should be well up to a point.
A lot of earlier bikes, and particularly non road bikes tend to use charging systems with a limited power output. You can get in to trouble here, particulalry if you ride in traffic a bit.
One of my mates just removed the heated grips form his bike because of this, but other bikes would not even notice. FYI