How can I make my indicators stay on and not flash when riding?

[Ultrasonic2]

i want to increase the safety of my motorbike and have all 4 indicators on all the time but not flashing and when i indicate the side that is indicating gose on and off while the other side stays on and when im not indicating at all all indecaters stay on

my old flatmate of years ago added this to his bike and it seems like a good i idea but i can find anything out there . also would it be legal ?

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Or man i wish i would go back and fix the title spelling

[BRAD BRASCO]

Beats me?

Is that legal to have them on constant?

[bogan]

Some bikes having running lamps in the indicators, these stay on when the running lamps are switched on, and are dimmer than the indicators, which flash as normal. I think they are a better way to go than an always on, flash off approach. Think about the target audience, inattentive drivers, those same drivers will maybe glance at you briefly, and if one side is on, and one off, which way will they think you are turning?

[Gremlin]

Yes, it is legal, some bikes come with it setup from factory. Not sure how legal to add later, but some have done it recently (or repaired) so should be along shortly. I've also corrected your spelling and moved the post to the correct area.

My mind has gone blank, but I think they are classed as running lights? Usually you need extra wiring to wire them for staying on, but you wouldn't want them at full brightness.

edit: As bogan said, I'm also hesitant about the full safety effect...

[Ultrasonic2]

I feel obliged to do something since at the end of the day I’ll be the dead one. It’s my experience that people don’t even look before changing lanes. So for someone to glance at me I would consider that a win.

Im quite happy for it to be annoying to others because that’s what I want, People to see me

[Gremlin]

We're not saying it's annoying... we're saying people will mis-understand the information you are giving out...

[bogan]

We're not saying it's annoying... we're saying people will mis-understand the information you are giving out...

Indeed. Better to go with dedicated running light than fuck with your indicators imo. And DRLs aren't a silver bullet either, you'll still need to be vigilant for inattentive road users.

[cs363]

i want to increase the safety of my motorbike and have all 4 indicators on all the time but not flashing and when i indicate the side that is indicating gose on and off while the other side stays on and when im not indicating at all all indecaters stay on

my old flatmate of years ago added this to his bike and it seems like a good i idea but i can find anything out there . also would it be legal ?

EDIT

Or man i wish i would go back and fix the title spelling

If you really want to do it, here's a plug and play option: http://www.soundoffrec.com/products/lights.aspx
As a rule it's usually only the front indicators that are used as running lights FWIW.

[oneofsix]

I feel obliged to do something since at the end of the day I’ll be the dead one. It’s my experience that people don’t even look before changing lanes. So for someone to glance at me I would consider that a win.

Im quite happy for it to be annoying to others because that’s what I want, People to see me

Just be aware that if they aren't seeing your headlight they are unlikely to see your indicators when hard on. Also that when you confuse the brain it often uses the option of ignoring the input until it can understand it so more is not always better, you don't want their brain comprehending when it receives the additional input by way of the sound of the collision.

[Ultrasonic2]

Thanks SC I had a look and it’s not quite what im looking for that was all about using your rear indicators as additional brake lights it would seem.

[Maha]

We had a Radian that did that....running lights we called them.

[Ultrasonic2]

alot of people call them DRL daytime running lights but there doesn't seem to be any kits i can buy to get my indicators to work like that

[bogan]

alot of people call them DRL daytime running lights but there doesn't seem to be any kits i can buy to get my indicators to work like that

You would need dual filament bulbs, and extra wiring for the whole lot, including to the switchgear. So not surprising they don't make kits for it.

[James Deuce]

Nearly ten years now on KB and NO ONE EVER GOES TO THE OFFICIAL SOURCE OF TRAFFIC REGULATIONS WHEN THEY WANT TO MODIFY A BIKE!

ffs. That was a sad little "ffs", with no venom or energy in it.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/get-your-lights-right/get-your-lights-right.html#day

This next one makes me giggle, cos it's an RVF or VFR in the pic and the headlights on the RVF are never this bright on dip.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/about-riding/night-riding.html

Here's some stuff about what inspectors look for when they inspect the lighting on your bike.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-certification/docs/mc-4-lighting-v4a4.pdf

[James Deuce]

There are a huge range of products you can buy to put on your bike or use to modify existing indicator installations.

http://www.bikevis.com/

http://www.chromeglow.com/index.asp?category=25865

Here's a thread on a lighting forum discussing visibility options.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?326411-motorcycle-daytime-running-lights

Here's some cool products for safety nerds. They have a specific module for converting indicators into Daytime Running lights.

http://www.pashnit.com/product/signal_dynamics.html

[James Deuce]

At the end of the day, if the fuckers don't want to see you, they won't.

You could be a hot naked chick on a chopper with really forward controls and ape-hangers and they Still. Won't. See. You.

Having said that, the main safety aspect of daytime running lights is that they give width to the front and rear aspect of your bike making it easier for people to judge how far away you are from them. People judge distance by triangulating two points on the approaching object and they use the apparent increase in size (or decrease if you are riding away from them - as you SHOULD BE) of an approaching object to judge the velocity of approach, so I think running lights are a practical safety aid, unlike hi-vis vests, which are often hidden by fairings or packs or backpacks, and are fundamentally just another piece of shit that a "motorcyclist" has to lug about.

[Ultrasonic2]

im not sure everyone has my point i dont want front facing lights i already have a head light, which is way i want to use the indicators cos on my bike they point sideways too.

thanks for everyones help so far

[Ultrasonic2]

At the end of the day, if the fuckers don't want to see you, they won't.

You could be a hot naked chick on a chopper with really forward controls and ape-hangers and they Still. Won't. See. You.

Having said that, the main safety aspect of daytime running lights is that they give width to the front and rear aspect of your bike making it easier for people to judge how far away you are from them. People judge distance by triangulating two points on the approaching object and they use the apparent increase in size (or decrease if you are riding away from them - as you SHOULD BE) of an approaching object to judge the velocity of approach, so I think running lights are a practical safety aid, unlike hi-vis vests, which are often hidden by fairings or packs or backpacks, and are fundamentally just another piece of shit that a "motorcyclist" has to lug about.

yes i agree with this

hi vis vets are pointless the car only sees them once you've passed them but then it doesn't really matter.

[James Deuce]

In which case I don't think you may know what your point is. Of COURSE your indicators point sideways. If you go to NZTA and check the regs you'll see what number of degrees they have to visible from the centre line of your bike. You'll break the regs as well if you modify your indicators to only point sideways.

If you check some of the links I gave you'll see that there are some lighting options that are side-only visibility aids. That's an acknowledged threat area for motorcycles.

[Ultrasonic2]

well interestingly this is the first bike i've had that the indicators point sideways a swell as forward (when talking about the front ones)

Ie my avatar which is one of my old 250s zxr they only pointed front or rear

[pete376403]

My GS1100GK has this - dual filament bulbs in the front and rear indicators (which are pretty huge by bike standards, and side facing running lights on the fairing. It helps the visibility a bit, but I think the main reason no cagers have ever threatened me on that bike is not the extra lighting, but because it looks too much like a cop bike.

[gammaguy]

im not sure everyone has my point i dont want front facing lights i already have a head light, which is way i want to use the indicators cos on my bike they point sideways too.

thanks for everyones help so far

get a hold of a wiring diagram for the Honda VFR 800,VT600 or some others

Both those models and a few more besides use the indicators as running lights.

Be prepared to change bulbs,possibly bulb holders and also add wiring.

have fun

[CookMySock]

Headlights to fullbeam depending on the situation - end of problem. Of course you won't do this, because a-holes on forums will abuse you, and this is much worse than a car not seeing you. ;)

[Ultrasonic2]

Headlights to fullbeam depending on the situation - end of problem. Of course you won't do this, because a-holes on forums will abuse you, and this is much worse than a car not seeing you. ;)

When on the motor way i have my light on high beam it does make a big difference. No one bitches my bikes lights aren't the most powerful or modern ie no HID

I had a look and the lights in the front and back are 7443's dual filament but the low wattage filament doesn't have a wire so i can just connect that up. im also going to put 20w LED lights in cos the harsh flashing should make them more visible.

So all the guys who see me everyday who read this will know who i am soon :-)

[CookMySock]

When on the motor way i have my light on high beam it does make a big difference. No one bitches my bikes lights aren't the most powerful or modern ie no HID Mine are HID, and still no one complains. Well, I'm not there long enough for them to complain... But yeah, motorcycle headlights aren't really that bright.

[Spazman727]

If you get your WOF at VTNZ anything is legal. Last time I went there they were super anal about my headlight pointing a wee bit far up, but didn't check my indicators, brake or tail lights, suspension or brakes. Going to VTNZ with a bike you are pretty much guaranteed a WOF.

[Ultrasonic2]

i guess it depends on who you get

im getting leds similar to these

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[Sable]

Faggot. I bet you wear hivis too. Ironic that you ride a Honda

[Ultrasonic2]

Faggot. I bet you wear hivis too. Ironic that you ride a Honda

no i dont were hi vis it doesn't acheive much in my opinion

hi vis is only useful once you are infront of someone but then all the risk is gone and in my case im case i have a bag on my back. i dont wear a black jacket anyway

not sure what your trying to say about honda

[spanner spinner]

fit a visi bike kit this is the easiest way to do what you want to achive.

[Ultrasonic2]

fit a visi bike kit this is the easiest way to do what you want to achive.


i can not find such a thing

[davereid]

i can not find such a thing

You need two relays and possibly an electronic flasher unit if the flash rate goes weird.

Cut the wire to the indicator. You now have a wire to the lamp and a wire back into the loom.

Contact 1 = Common. Wire to any circuit which is live when key is on.
Contact 2 = Normally Closed. Wire to Indicator lamp wire.
Coil = Wire to Ground
Coil = connect to indicator loom wire


Do same with another relay on the other side.

[schrodingers cat]

Spend your time and effort on an advanced riding course with a focus on risk assessment and situational awareness.

Or just take the bus ffs

[Ultrasonic2]

Spend your time and effort on an advanced riding course with a focus on risk assessment and situational awareness.

Or just take the bus ffs

i'm beyond that licensed for 11 years and ride 5 days a week sun, rain or snow to get to work and yes i have ridden in the snow. and thanks to god i've never come off

[drrummer]

I've also corrected your spelling.



That's just rude.

[ruaphu]

Go to your bike shop there is an over the counter product that simply interconnects with indicator circuits to fit any bike with single filament type indicators. A mate had it fitted to his cruiser, worked well. Can't remember what the brand was. Was legal, no issues with wofs etc. cheers


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[skippa1]

Go to your bike shop there is an over the counter product that simply interconnects with indicator circuits to fit any bike with single filament type indicators. A mate had it fitted to his cruiser, worked well. Can't remember what the brand was. Was legal, no issues with wofs etc. cheers


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He hasn't been on here since August 2012.......

[BigAl]

He hasn't been on here since August 2012.......

So the DRL installation didn't work for him.........

[imdying]

That's just rude.Don't dredge 2 year old threads retard.

[buggerit]

That's just rude.

Shamus, is that you? Hows the weather in Dublin?:lol: