View Full Version : Some of you should've waited on the coroner's report before spewing your bile
short-circuit
25th July 2012, 19:41
How many of you arseholes watched this interview on Campbell?
http://www.3news.co.nz/Full-transcript-Macsyna-Kings-Campbell-Live-interview/tabid/423/articleID/262634/Default.aspx
Her lawyer calculated something like 38 hours worth of evidence voluntarily supplied to the police (in the interview immediately following). The claims of a vow of silence by the family appear to be another myth.
Plenty of ill informed wankers on this site alone....just type "Kahui" or "Macsyna King" into the search bar if you don't already know who the biggest bigots are
JimO
25th July 2012, 19:47
she is a feral no hoper anyway, compulsory sterilisation should be mandatory
Berries
25th July 2012, 19:59
Sounds like somebody has a crush.
:love:
short-circuit
25th July 2012, 20:03
she is a feral no hoper anyway, compulsory sterilisation should be mandatory
You're only saying that coz you're a racist cunt
short-circuit
25th July 2012, 20:05
Sounds like somebody has a crush.
:love:
Turning it into a light hearted troll doesn't alter or change the ugliness of the original "middleground kiwi" response
:sick:
Woodman
25th July 2012, 20:08
Turning it into a light hearted troll doesn't alter or change the ugliness of the original "middleground kiwi" response
:sick:
Which was????
Katman
25th July 2012, 20:10
Turning it into a light hearted troll doesn't alter or change the ugliness of the original "middleground kiwi" response
Sorry, have you seen something good and wholesome in Macsyna King that the rest of us have missed?
short-circuit
25th July 2012, 20:11
Which was????
Do a search
SMOKEU
25th July 2012, 20:12
You're only saying that coz you're a racist cunt
It's not racist if it's true.
Woodman
25th July 2012, 20:13
Do a search
no, you tell us.
HenryDorsetCase
25th July 2012, 20:18
How many of you arseholes watched this interview on Campbell?
http://www.3news.co.nz/Full-transcript-Macsyna-Kings-Campbell-Live-interview/tabid/423/articleID/262634/Default.aspx
Her lawyer calculated something like 38 hours worth of evidence voluntarily supplied to the police (in the interview immediately following). The claims of a vow of silence by the family appear to be another myth.
Plenty of ill informed wankers on this site alone....just type "Kahui" or "Macsyna King" into the search bar if you don't already know who the biggest bigots are
Ah fuck you. He fucking did it and they covered it up. And you are apologising for them? Good one champ
short-circuit
25th July 2012, 20:21
Ah fuck you. He fucking did it and they covered it up. And you are apologising for them? Good one champ
You're a lawyer are you? What do you do in real life?
scott411
25th July 2012, 20:21
Ah fuck you. He fucking did it and they covered it up. And you are apologising for them? Good one champ
agreed, she should be charged as well as every other adult that was in that house, non of them deserve any sympathy, the only two people that deserve sympathy never got a chance,
short-circuit
25th July 2012, 20:23
I think she's talking about people like you:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Coroners-report-not-surprising-says-Macsynas-lawyer/tabid/309/articleID/262639/Default.aspx
short-circuit
25th July 2012, 20:26
agreed, she should be charged as well as every other adult that was in that house, non of them deserve any sympathy, the only two people that deserve sympathy never got a chance,
A 26 page statement submitted to police the day after she buried her babies.
38 hours evidence given to police in total.
But the myth must go on
Swoop
25th July 2012, 21:05
A 26 page statement submitted to police the day after she buried her babies.
38 hours evidence given to police in total.
But the myth must go on
So, six days of silence prior to giving a statement to police is acceptable to you?
One very fucked-up family.
JimO
25th July 2012, 22:00
You're only saying that coz you're a racist cunt
sure am......
gsxr
25th July 2012, 22:19
Short -Curcuit You should get you name changed to wire loose.
Coroners report merely states the mother didnt MURDER them.
But PLEASE explain in your fucked up head how she is not still somewhat responsible by leaving her beloved twins which she admitted were born of an unwanted pregnancy.
If in fact she LOVED them so much why did she leave them in that situation.
SHE is GUILTY of abandoment and not providing for her beloved children.
Just because she didnt actually murder then does not absolve her of any blame.
Where is compulsary sterialisation when we need it
Edbear
25th July 2012, 22:23
Short -Curcuit You should get you name changed to wire loose.
Coroners report merely states the mother didnt MURDER them.
But PLEASE explain in your fucked up head how she is not still somewhat responsible by leaving her beloved twins which she admitted were born of an unwanted pregnancy.
If in fact she LOVED them so much why did she leave them in that situation.
SHE is GUILTY of abandoment and not providing for her beloved children.
Just because she didnt actually murder then does not absolve her of any blame.
Where is compulsary sterialisation when we need it
According to her lawyer today she was at the hospital with her older son who had taken ill and she took him to A&E where she waited hours with him to the early hours of the morning.
Headbanger
25th July 2012, 23:03
Turning it into a light hearted troll doesn't alter or change the ugliness of the original "middleground kiwi" response
:sick:
Get fucked, The ugliness took place within that family, not within society.
They have tarnished NZ and shamed all of us.
The lot of them should be shot.
gammaguy
25th July 2012, 23:17
she is a feral no hoper anyway, compulsory sterilisation should be mandatory
thats a double negative
compulsory by definition is mandatory
grammar police are watching you:cool:
by the way I think that asshole did it,and have done since day one
Brett
25th July 2012, 23:39
How many of you arseholes watched this interview on Campbell?
http://www.3news.co.nz/Full-transcript-Macsyna-Kings-Campbell-Live-interview/tabid/423/articleID/262634/Default.aspx
Her lawyer calculated something like 38 hours worth of evidence voluntarily supplied to the police (in the interview immediately following). The claims of a vow of silence by the family appear to be another myth.
Plenty of ill informed wankers on this site alone....just type "Kahui" or "Macsyna King" into the search bar if you don't already know who the biggest bigots are
Because she said it all on Campbell Live it must be true...:weird:
Do you recall some of her behaviour and that of her whanau outside court in the early days?...Yeah....that was the image of a good mother. As a family they closed ranks, screw what Macsyna claims. According to the coroners report etc those kids suffered from more than just the beating that killed them. They had a history of prior neglect and abuse, including having had broken ribs some time prior to their head injuries. Even if Chris that cunt was the one who single handedly did the damage that ultimately killed the twins (which I think he did), why the hell did it take Mcsyna and Chris so long to a) go to the doctors and b) get to the hospital upon the doctors instruction? (They went home apparently after the doctors visit even though they were told to go straight to the hospital)
They were a house full of wellfare freeloading no hopers who lived in an environment physically and socially unfit for children. Kahui and King seem to have sobered up some, or at least the media portray them that way, and maybe they do have their lives in order finally, however sorry mate, I don't buy Macsyna's crocodile tears as she did not provide the twins their necessary care and I certainly don't by Chris' bullshit...I bet it was that fucker that did the kids a number.
Brett
25th July 2012, 23:43
A 26 page statement submitted to police the day after she buried her babies.
38 hours evidence given to police in total.
But the myth must go on
The day after she buried her babies....yeah....11 days after the fact.
If I take my kids to live in a house full of sociapaths who party and fight all day and I do nothing to protect them from those cretins, and actually decide to leave my kids with one of them, I can't be surprised upon returning to find them in a less than healthy state. she claims she "left them for Chris to bond with"...smart one. I would like my infant to bond with my fucking pet tiger...doesn't mean it's a smart idea.
flyingcrocodile46
25th July 2012, 23:57
Because she said it all on Campbell Live it must be true...:weird:
Do you recall some of her behaviour and that of her whanau outside court in the early days?...Yeah....that was the image of a good mother. As a family they closed ranks, screw what Macsyna claims. According to the coroners report etc those kids suffered from more than just the beating that killed them. They had a history of prior neglect and abuse, including having had broken ribs some time prior to their head injuries. Even if Chris that cunt was the one who single handedly did the damage that ultimately killed the twins (which I think he did), why the hell did it take Mcsyna and Chris so long to a) go to the doctors and b) get to the hospital upon the doctors instruction? (They went home apparently after the doctors visit even though they were told to go straight to the hospital)
They were a house full of wellfare freeloading no hopers who lived in an environment physically and socially unfit for children. Kahui and King seem to have sobered up some, or at least the media portray them that way, and maybe they do have their lives in order finally, however sorry mate, I don't buy Macsyna's crocodile tears as she did not provide the twins their necessary care and I certainly don't by Chris' bullshit...I bet it was that fucker that did the kids a number.
As I recall they were reported as stopping at MacDonalds for a sit down feed on the way. I agree, all the evidence at the time pointed to her as a terrible mother. Nothing has changed.
gsxr
26th July 2012, 00:09
As I recall they were reported as stopping at MacDonalds for a sit down feed on the way. I agree, all the evidence at the time pointed to her as a terrible mother. Nothing has changed.
Things have changed unfortunately. The CORONER has ruled she was not to blame.
Something is wrong with this picture.
I destest my tax going towards paying that coroners wages.
Maybe we need to pay more money to set up an independant tribunial to investigate the investigators Thats the way it works in NZ
p.dath
26th July 2012, 08:09
Plenty of ill informed wankers on this site alone....just type "Kahui" or "Macsyna King" into the search bar if you don't already know who the biggest bigots are
I just did that with Google. It was pretty damming.
End of the day, two children died while in the care of their father. The deaths were not accidental. The parents of children are responsible for their children's care.
Their was a gross failing of the parents, in particular the father. And for that, he should be charged with failing to provide that care.
imdying
26th July 2012, 09:37
Meh, coons... who cares who did what to whom... so long as they keep there knuckle dragging butchery amongst themselves, I don't see what the problem is.
Haggis2
26th July 2012, 16:11
Meh, coons... who cares who did what to whom... so long as they keep there knuckle dragging butchery amongst themselves, I don't see what the problem is.
Now thats how racism is done...
FJRider
26th July 2012, 16:23
It's not racist if it's true.
Truth hasn't got anything to do with it ...
Noun 1. racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others
racialist
Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination"
2. racist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
anti-semite, antiblack
discriminatory, prejudiced - being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge"
SMOKEU
26th July 2012, 16:34
Truth hasn't got anything to do with it ...
Noun 1. racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others
racialist
Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination"
2. racist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
anti-semite, antiblack
discriminatory, prejudiced - being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge"
The noun part of the definition is true. As for the "anti-semite", I was under the impression that terminology was reserved specifically for anti jewish stuff.
FJRider
26th July 2012, 17:03
The noun part of the definition is true. As for the "anti-semite", I was under the impression that terminology was reserved specifically for anti jewish stuff.
A noun is a just a name. If it's based on one's prejudiced belief's of any race/colour ... it is considered racist. Even if the statement IS true ... it is still racist.
Anti-seminite ... is specificlly for anti-jewish. But is a the adjective to describe that opinion/view.
But ... it is STILL racist to make "anti-seminate" comments ...
Jantar
26th July 2012, 17:18
If it's based on one's prejudiced belief's of any race/colour ... it is considered racist. Even if the statement IS true ... it is still racist.. ...
If it is true, then it is based on fact, not belief. So if it is true then it isn't racist.
I recall how one high school teacher taught us about how to determine if a statement is racist or not. Take out the refernce to race, and if the statement still has the same meaning then it was racist. If the meaning has changed, then it wasn't racist.
FJRider
26th July 2012, 17:42
If it is true, then it is based on fact, not belief. So if it is true then it isn't racist.
I recall how one high school teacher taught us about how to determine if a statement is racist or not. Take out the refernce to race, and if the statement still has the same meaning then it was racist. If the meaning has changed, then it wasn't racist.
As you say ... truth isn't racist. But reference to colour/race is ... it is the mention of colour/race that causes the racisim.
But racist comments are not about truth ... but to inflame/insult ... another group of people ....
The intent to inflame/insult by knowingly adding the race/colour bit in a statement ... is the racism issue.
Crasherfromwayback
26th July 2012, 18:17
Sorry, have you seen something good and wholesome in Macsyna King that the rest of us have missed?
And the funniest thing is he's one of the biggest cunts on the site.
Crasherfromwayback
26th July 2012, 18:19
A 26 page statement submitted to police the day after she buried her babies.
38 hours evidence given to police in total.
But the myth must go on
In between smoking meth and sucking some one else's cock while her partner was at home with the kids? Mother of the decade.
gsxr
26th July 2012, 19:11
BUT
The coroner has ruled she is absolved from any blame.
I hope that coont can still sleep at night.Both the sperm donor and recipient failed to provide the care and necessities of life to those children and should both be charged as such if they cant pin a murder charge on them FFS
nzspokes
26th July 2012, 19:18
A 26 page statement submitted to police the day after she buried her babies.
38 hours evidence given to police in total.
But the myth must go on
So the babies slaughtered themselves then?
Fatt Max
26th July 2012, 19:28
I'm not anti-simetic, I'm anti-Samsonite.....fucking poofy suitcases, who needs them eh....
Katman
26th July 2012, 19:35
I'm not anti-simetic, I'm anti-Samsonite.....fucking poofy suitcases, who needs them eh....
Hell yeah, I'm anti semitic.
That shit shouldn't be allowed.
It can blow your fucking arm off if you're not careful.
98tls
26th July 2012, 19:37
If it is true, then it is based on fact, not belief. So if it is true then it isn't racist.
I recall how one high school teacher taught us about how to determine if a statement is racist or not. Take out the refernce to race, and if the statement still has the same meaning then it was racist. If the meaning has changed, then it wasn't racist.
"there was this one time at band camp"
phill-k
26th July 2012, 19:37
At the time of their death there were about 14 people living (and receiving benefits) in that house, none of them could figure out and assist the police to determine what happened, the whole lot of them should be shot with a ball of their own shit.
This sort of stuff does not happen in middle and upper income families.
98tls
26th July 2012, 19:39
So the babies slaughtered themselves then?
Penny to a pound someones picking up there welfare cheque though.
98tls
26th July 2012, 19:42
At the time of their death there were about 14 people living (and receiving benefits) in that house, none of them could figure out and assist the police to determine what happened, the whole lot of them should be shot with a ball of their own shit.
This sort of stuff does not happen in middle and upper income families.
True they tend to wait awhile,David Bain ring a bell?
phill-k
26th July 2012, 19:45
True they tend to wait awhile,David Bain ring a bell?
Not sure what you mean here, David was the only survivor and was acquitted no one else in the house survived to tell the story, and the families background hardly places them in middle class NZ
Berries
26th July 2012, 19:45
David Bain ring a bell?
No. His Dad rang it.
short-circuit
26th July 2012, 19:46
Not just cunts....thick as well. Not sure where to start with the huge amount of comprehension fail.
phill-k
26th July 2012, 19:48
Not just cunts....thick as well. Not sure where to start with the huge amount of comprehension fail.
Mate have you had a head injury or something, you're not thinking very rationally here, every one of those fuckers in that house are guilty, or don't you believe in that sort of responsibility for our children.
98tls
26th July 2012, 19:53
Not sure what you mean here, David was the only survivor
Not sure what you dont understand phill.
Laava
26th July 2012, 20:27
Not just cunts....thick as well. Not sure where to start with the huge amount of comprehension fail.
You start a thread with "How many of you arseholes?" and you expect a positive response. Back to kindy and the naughty chair for you.
macka77
26th July 2012, 20:59
so we all know the facts now and i assume the jurers knew more
wouldnt it be nice for them to explain why it took 10mins to find a not guilty verdict
???????
JimO
26th July 2012, 21:01
i wonder how those twins managed to break their own ribs, my twins are 20 and still havent worked out how to do it
Brett
26th July 2012, 21:40
Not just cunts....thick as well. Not sure where to start with the huge amount of comprehension fail.
Cry me a river Betty. I don't think we're the ones who are thick and suffering from poor comprehension, the overwhelming response here would suggest that it is you with some strange ideas. Or are you Macsyna's new partner in crime ...whoops...said tongue in cheek of course, given that she is innocent.
A 26 page statement submitted to police the day after she buried her babies.
38 hours evidence given to police in total.
But the myth must go on
Wow! 26 pages, well in that case her statements must be the truth. Just as well no one else wrote 27 pages of crap because that would "out truth' her.
Her and her 'partner of the drunken week' are shining examples of why sterilisation should be compulsory for worthless, good for absolutely nothing scumbags. They are proof that shit attracts shit and breeds shit. FACT: No matter how Hard you try you can not polish a turd. There is not enough Pledge in the world to put a shine on Chris Kahui or Mcsyna. What a fitting stupid name for a stupid person.
So the Butler must have done it. Anyone but the parents.
gammaguy
27th July 2012, 00:21
so we all know the facts now and i assume the jurers knew more
wouldnt it be nice for them to explain why it took 10mins to find a not guilty verdict
???????
assuming it was a jury of their peers
they were probably in a hurry to get to McDonalds
scott411
27th July 2012, 08:03
so we all know the facts now and i assume the jurers knew more
wouldnt it be nice for them to explain why it took 10mins to find a not guilty verdict
???????
because our justice system is a joke, and they only try to prove if one person did it so they can punish them, and not try to find out what really happened and work to prevent it again,
Swoop
27th July 2012, 08:14
because our justice system is a joke, and they only try to prove if one person did it so they can punish them, and not try to find out what really happened and work to prevent it again,
A jury is specifically told that they are not to go hunting for "others" or treat it as a game of Whodunnit. Their job is to examine the facts placed before them in the courtroom.
The prosecution has to prove that the accused was guilty of a crime and is innocent until that is proven (hence the entitlement to silence).
oneofsix
27th July 2012, 08:31
so we all know the facts now and i assume the jurers knew more
wouldnt it be nice for them to explain why it took 10mins to find a not guilty verdict
???????
Because in the court case there was too much reasonable doubt. Too many people had stayed silent and lied. Pity they couldn't all have been tried as accessories to the murders without having to find the actual murder.
A jury is specifically told that they are not to go hunting for "others" or treat it as a game of Whodunnit. Their job is to examine the facts placed before them in the courtroom.
The prosecution has to prove that the accused was guilty of a crime and is innocent until that is proven (hence the entitlement to silence).
You could have high-lighted the prove or proven in the last sentence.
nzspokes
27th July 2012, 20:47
Not just cunts....thick as well. Not sure where to start with the huge amount of comprehension fail.
So who slaughtered the babies?
Jantar
27th July 2012, 21:00
So who slaughtered the babies?
Mmm, Good question. I guess it must have been Short Circuit. If it wasn't anyone in the house at the time, and only SC knows that to be true, then by a process of elimination he can be the only guilty party.
davebullet
27th July 2012, 21:22
so short circuit - she was not responsible at all? Kahui would have shown signs. Woe is me and i did nothing wrong is saming 'i am not responsible in anyway as their mother' her full interview was justifying her innocence. My experience with people with severe grief and loss is what other people think is the last thing on their mind - they are so consumed. I wonder if adoption ever crossed her mind. whether i am an arsehole or not doesnt change the fact she was a bad mother
Paul in NZ
27th July 2012, 21:37
Plenty of ill informed wankers on this site alone....just type "Kahui" or "Macsyna King" into the search bar if you don't already know who the biggest bigots are
Look - I'm usually I'm Mr reasonable but heres a change... Go find a corner and fuck off and take the rest of that poxy festering brood with you. OK - WE all KNEW he did it from day one but where did this start? The day she opened her legs to that piece of shit and didnt use any protection... Please don't tell me she didnt know where babies came from, she had enough of them..
Who did the actual deed was almost a side show. There were several of those sub humans who could have stopped it and should have known better but did nothing. INCLUDING the mother who should/ did know better after the fact.
If that makes me a racist its a label I'll take gladly.
Look - tonight I had 3 of the girls here with 3 grandies with various parents etc. ANYONE of them could be left with any number of the others and no one would die. Fuck yes we are racist because of that eh? I guess because of that we know and value our family and we all work hard to make sure everyone of those kids is going to have a better chance at the brass ring than we had - its like a secret pact or summat. Long live the racists i say...
The secret us racists have - we would give our lives for our children - NOT TAKE theirs for ours...
nzspokes
27th July 2012, 21:52
we would give our lives for our children - NOT TAKE theirs for ours...
Well said.
Conquiztador
27th July 2012, 21:57
Fact 1: Two infants were killed by an adult in the group.
Fact 2: Nobody in the house did anything to stop the killing.
Conclusion 1: Everyone involved is guilty of neglect. At least one is guilty of murder.
Fact 3: Nobody has been convicted of anything in relation to this case.
Conclusion 2: Whoever was in charge of this case has done a really shitty job.
Conclusion 3: There is a murderer walking free.
My opinion: Everyone in that group should be in jail rottening by now. It is totally unbelievable that a murderer of two children is protected by the others! Scum!
short-circuit
28th July 2012, 07:57
Fact 1: Two infants were killed by an adult in the group.
Fact 2: Nobody in the house did anything to stop the killing.
Conclusion 1: Everyone involved is guilty of neglect. At least one is guilty of murder.
Fact 3: Nobody has been convicted of anything in relation to this case.
Conclusion 2: Whoever was in charge of this case has done a really shitty job.
Conclusion 3: There is a murderer walking free.
My opinion: Everyone in that group should be in jail rottening by now. It is totally unbelievable that a murderer of two children is protected by the others! Scum!
Some hints: For you and all the other (self-justifying) retards making it up as you go along...
- The twins were in the sole care of the father when they were injured - no other adults were present including the mother
- The above fact is not some sort of indictment on the mother (check the context around this before inserting your prejudice here)
- The mother and father were not a couple (and it is unlikely that the father had shown previous signs of untrustworthiness given the point below)
- The coroner's report shows the mother had previously taken excellent care of the children (despite her limited resources)
- The slow to respond accusation has been shown to be bollocks - the father was reluctant to seek medical intervention, the mother did by all accounts in a state of shock
- The wall of silence accusation has similarly been shown to be bollocks - those still labouring this point should read the thread and check the links provided
Let separate two things out...
Putting aside first, questions about culpability and "responsibility" for a second. The average New Zealand arsehole (overwhelmingly over represented on this particular forum) blinkered by their huge prejudice implicated the mother Macsyna King immediately and she was subject to a complete character assassination BEFORE the facts were available and without her context or that of the wider family was known (not that it is entirely). The I believe it partly because you are cunts and partly because the media are cunts. Most of your cuntiness stems from ignorance (no sociological understanding). Others of you seem to be innate cunts.
As far as "responsibility" goes, I find it deeply deeply ironic that so many who routinely harp on and on about "individual responsibility" would like to see this particular family collectively shot. Are you all being culturally sensitive or would you like to generalize repsonsibility for this tragedy out to the whanau, hapu, iwi to tangata. Why not just go for capital genocide?
davebullet
28th July 2012, 08:09
how naive. The coroner exhonerates her from the immediate injuries and vicinity and she wails on campbell live like shes the innocent victim?
She fucken neglected her children, handed them to a murderer who she damn well knew deep in her heart he wouldnt take care of them.
Her attitude on tv just confirmed it was me me me. Babies came second.
nzspokes
28th July 2012, 08:20
Some hints: For you and all the other (self-justifying) retards making it up as you go along...
- The twins were in the sole care of the father when they were injured - no other adults were present including the mother
- The above fact is not some sort of indictment on the mother (check the context around this before inserting your prejudice here)
- The mother and father were not a couple (and it is unlikely that the father had shown previous signs of untrustworthiness given the point below)
- The coroner's report shows the mother had previously taken excellent care of the children (despite her limited resources)
- The slow to respond accusation has been shown to be bollocks - the father was reluctant to seek medical intervention, the mother did by all accounts in a state of shock
- The wall of silence accusation has similarly been shown to be bollocks - those still labouring this point should read the thread and check the links provided
Let separate two things out...
Putting aside first, questions about culpability and "responsibility" for a second. The average New Zealand arsehole (overwhelmingly over represented on this particular forum) blinkered by their huge prejudice implicated the mother Macsyna King immediately and she was subject to a complete character assassination BEFORE the facts were available and without her context or that of the wider family was known (not that it is entirely). The I believe it partly because you are cunts and partly because the media are cunts. Most of your cuntiness stems from ignorance (no sociological understanding). Others of you seem to be innate cunts.
As far as "responsibility" goes, I find it deeply deeply ironic that so many who routinely harp on and on about "individual responsibility" would like to see this particular family collectively shot. Are you all being culturally sensitive or would you like to generalize repsonsibility for this tragedy out to the whanau, hapu, iwi to tangata. Why not just go for capital genocide?
Two babies were slaughtered. None of them have rights untill they tell the truth. This renders your argument invalid.
So key point, two babies were slaughtered. They were not taken to hospital in enough time. But I doubt even one of the parents actually taking them to hospital would have saved them.
short-circuit
28th July 2012, 08:31
Hahaha - well that's me told. KB had it sussed all along :rolleyes:
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 09:58
Hahaha - well that's me told. KB had it sussed all along :rolleyes:
You're a fucking dreamer. Kahui used to beat the children to get back at her. He'd done it on several occasions. She obviously knew this, yet still left them in his care. She sucking your cock in between the crack pipe now?
short-circuit
28th July 2012, 10:02
You're a fucking dreamer. Kahui used to beat the children to get back at her. He'd done it on several occaisions. She obviously knew this, yet still left them in his care. She sucking your cock in between the crack pipe now?
Innate cunt? Ignorant cunt?
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 10:04
Innate cunt? Ignorant cunt?
No mirrors in your house?
Madness
28th July 2012, 11:18
Aussie has issues too it seems...
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HenryDorsetCase
28th July 2012, 11:26
The secret us racists have - we would give our lives for our children - NOT TAKE theirs for ours...
You can adopt me if you want.
JimO
28th July 2012, 13:43
Hahaha - well that's me told. KB had it sussed all along :rolleyes:
no one is forcing you to stay
short-circuit
28th July 2012, 13:52
no one is forcing you to stay
Should I leave you all to stroke each others cocks using your facist views as stimulation?
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 14:09
Should I leave you all to stroke each others cocks using your facist views as stimulation?
You're the only one stroking his cock in this thread.
BMWST?
28th July 2012, 14:09
A 26 page statement submitted to police the day after she buried her babies.
38 hours evidence given to police in total.
But the myth must go on
the "myth" was created and is still being milked dry by the media
flyingcrocodile46
28th July 2012, 15:21
Should I leave you all to stroke each others cocks using your facist views as stimulation?
Fuck me, talk about penis envy.
The OP post and thread title highlights only his own ignorance of the facts presented both then and now. Nothing new has been revealed by the coroner and no opinions have been changed. The only thing this thread has proven is how ridiculous the op is for interpreting that the bitch was somehow exonerated and the fact that no one else seems to have been afflicted by the same brain eating disorder that has resulted in the fucktard demanding some form of recognition that the evil heartless bitch is anything other than an abomination. Both of them should be flogged an inch beyond death. And people like the OP can fucking join them for being a rotten dumbass PC dipshit cock smoker.
Brett
28th July 2012, 15:58
Should I leave you all to stroke each others cocks using your facist views as stimulation?
Yes please, the collective IQ of KB needs to be increased a little bit.
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 16:09
Yes please, the collective IQ of KB needs to be increased a little bit.
The award for best post of the thread goes to...
short-circuit
28th July 2012, 16:33
The award for best post of the thread goes to...
My vote goes to flyingcrocodile - very funny retort....despite his missing my point (also that of her lawyer).
The rest purile and predictable.
Drew
28th July 2012, 16:45
Should I leave you all to stroke each others cocks using your facist views as stimulation?
Took a while to read this thread, I'm very angry this last couple weeks, and I was struggling not to throw my computer out the window.
I throw this word around a lot, so people seem to not take it personally any more. On the contrary though, EVERYONE should take it personal, but you should take it personally, with a long walk off a short run up to a cliff face. Hypocrite!
Why is it racist to think that some queer shaped cunt piece of shit, is partly responsible in the death of her sons? The fact that she's not white doesn't even enter the equation. She knew he wasn't capable of properly caring for the kids, and left them anyway.
I say "not white", because I have no idea of her ethnicity, not because I think white is in any way superior for any reason at all.
FJRider
28th July 2012, 16:49
The OP post and thread title highlights only his own ignorance of the facts presented both then and now. Nothing new has been revealed by the coroner and no opinions have been changed. The only thing this thread has proven is how ridiculous the op is for interpreting that the bitch was somehow exonerated and the fact that no one else seems to have been afflicted by the same brain eating disorder that has resulted in the fucktard demanding some form of recognition that the evil heartless bitch is anything other than an abomination. Both of them should be flogged an inch beyond death. And people like the OP can fucking join them for being a rotten dumbass PC dipshit cock smoker.
To be found guilty in a Court of law, it must be proven beyond reasonable doubt the the person charged, IS guilty. In this particular case, the Jury of his peer's decided he couldn't.
That is the system ... it is to protect the innocent, and in this case ... the guilty.
Such is the system we have, do we really want/need it changed ... ??
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 17:18
Why is it racist to think that some queer shaped cunt piece of shit, is partly responsible in the death of her sons? The fact that she's not white doesn't even enter the equation. She knew he wasn't capable of properly caring for the kids, and left them anyway.
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That's the funniest thing about this losers thread. I've never said anyting about the useless slags colour either. Plenty of white trash out and about too.
flyingcrocodile46
28th July 2012, 17:25
To be found guilty in a Court of law, it must be proven beyond reasonable doubt the the person charged, IS guilty. In this particular case, the Jury of his peer's decided he couldn't.
That is the system ... it is to protect the innocent, and in this case ... the guilty.
Such is the system we have, do we really want/need it changed ... ??
No changes please, the more we change the law the less freedoms we have. If people used common sense, played fair and accepted accountability we wouldn't need so many rules. It is the OP and that jumped up clitoris John Campbell that I take issue with for being so fucking stupid as to defend the bitch or afford her the opportunity to attempt to present herself as anything more than the negligent unloving bitch that she is.
Brett
28th July 2012, 17:28
That's the funniest thing about this losers thread. I've never said anyting about the useless slags colour either. Plenty of white trash out and about too.
I'm with ya crasher...I couldn't care less if she was a blue smurf, darkie or a white girl...race doesn't factor into this at all. However it is a truth that the statistics are are not fairly represented across all cultures and colours...
oneofsix
28th July 2012, 17:33
No changes please, the more we change the law the less freedoms we have. If people used common sense, played fair and accepted accountability we wouldn't need so many rules. It is the OP and that jumped up clitoris John Campbell that I take issue with for being so fucking stupid as to defend the bitch or afford her the opportunity to attempt to present herself as anything more than the negligent unloving bitch that she is.
You missed the writer that gave her the chance to spread her :bs:, at least some book shops listened to their customers and refused to stock it. Anybody in that house or associated with it assisted in the killing of those twins by not speaking out.
Which leads to the comment on your request for no more laws. I agree. Heard a comment that the requirement for a new law was a failure of society, we only need laws when society fails self control. Perhaps the book shop customers are an example of societies self control.
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 17:42
I'm with ya crasher...I couldn't care less if she was a blue smurf, darkie or a white girl...race doesn't factor into this at all. However it is a truth that the statistics are are not fairly represented across all cultures and colours...
A point the OP seems to be missing.
And yes, under class Maori are over represented in child bashing cases sadly. But white man fiddles with kiddies far too often too. Sad stats all round.
SMOKEU
28th July 2012, 17:46
But white man fiddles with kiddies far too often too.
Especially catholic priests.
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 17:50
Especially catholic priests.
When they say ahmen, they actually mean ahhhhh...men.
FJRider
28th July 2012, 18:59
Anybody in that house or associated with it assisted in the killing of those twins by not speaking out.
To speak out would have implicated themselves in the events leading up to ... and including the event of the children's death. So chose to cover their own ass's ... and remain silent.
How many on site here have done similar ... be it in less serious situations ... maybe .... but remained silent none the less.
Crasherfromwayback
28th July 2012, 20:53
Should I leave you all to stroke each others cocks using your facist views as stimulation?
Here's a wee challenge for you. Find another single thread started by anyone that has so many people saying the OP is full of shit and wrong. If you can...stay. If not...fuck off for good. Fair?
Madness
28th July 2012, 20:56
Here's a wee challenge for you. Find another single thread started by anyone that has so many people saying the OP is full of shit and wrong. If you can...stay. If not...fuck off for good. Fair?
That would be most threads started by Edbear.
HenryDorsetCase
28th July 2012, 20:59
To speak out would have implicated themselves in the events leading up to ... and including the event of the children's death. So chose to cover their own ass's ... and remain silent.
How many on site here have done similar ... be it in less serious situations ... maybe .... but remained silent none the less.
there is zero moral equivalency between (for example) not telling on Johnny for pissing in your swimming pool (he did, by the way, I saw him, and all he's been eating for days is asparagus and jerusalem artichokes) and refusing to cooperate with the pleece investigation into the (lets remind ourselves) death of two infants. and to suggest there is or might be is, frankly, asinine.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 08:45
Find another single thread started by anyone that has so many people saying the OP is full of shit and wrong.
No wonder you sell motorbikes. Of course it went that way. My main assertion was that this forum was full of arseholes who took delight in being able to pick up and run with a media beat up based on some very sick social ideology....and a pile of mistruths (see Henry Dorkus' post above)
The last thing I expect from you drones is revisionist thinking. That might result in a very scary little existential dilemma for those of you with an ounce of intelligence. No, keep stroking each other's cocks while you collectively revel in this filthy little pigsty full of faeces and facism.
munster
29th July 2012, 09:03
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7370210/Why-Macsyna-doesn-t-deserve-a-sorry
Paul in NZ
29th July 2012, 09:08
Beat me to it......
That sack of shit deserves a swift kick up the arse into an institution and thats about it. If 'we' were revolted by her and her family well guess what sunshine we still are. Don't expect an appology from me and mine... maybe she didn't pull the trigger but she loaded the gun and placed it in his hand....
While its good to consider other opinions - in this case you are dead wrong.
Road kill
29th July 2012, 09:25
No wonder you sell motorbikes. Of course it went that way. My main assertion was that this forum was full of arseholes who took delight in being able to pick up and run with a media beat up based on some very sick social ideology....and a pile of mistruths (see Henry Dorkus' post above)
The last thing I expect from you drones is revisionist thinking. That might result in a very scary little existential dilemma for those of you with an ounce of intelligence. No, keep stroking each other's cocks while you collectively revel in this filthy little pigsty full of faeces and facism.
Find another site where the majority opinion is that all the people involved in this incident where not directly or indirectly involved.
You seem to put a lot of faith in the opinions of this womans lawyer and one TV segment where she spills a few crocodille tears,while not mentioning that her other kid is in care due to her lack of responsibility as a parent.
Keeping in mind the kids that died also had injurys other than those that eventualy killed them I'd say that kid now in care is the lucky one,,,the others are dead remember.
Or did you miss that bit in your little fantasy about how mistreated "she" has been.
Try opening both eyes before you point the finger at people on this site,,,it's pretty much a national opinion and it's based on previous history and fact.
XxKiTtiExX
29th July 2012, 09:33
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10822927
Crasherfromwayback
29th July 2012, 09:39
No wonder you sell motorbikes. .
And you're what? Full of yourself. Hope you read the link to the funny story regarding an over due apology.
Woodman
29th July 2012, 09:44
That Stuff article is bang on.
short circuit, you should really stop watching John campbell, the mans a fuckwit.
Drew
29th July 2012, 10:08
John campbell, the mans a fuckwit.
He's not a fuckwit, he is just peddling what ever is available to get people watching his show, and the advertisers fighting for airtime during it.
"Current affairs" is a liquid state.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 10:09
The Stuff article is a another self justifying opinion piece (mirroring responses from this site). It is careful about the "facts" it compiles (relying on inferences, generalities and even events after the deaths). I wonder who the author is and what they had written prior to the coroner's report.
It would be interesting to see how members of this site might be functioning after their children were murdered by someone else (both immediately and years after). Imagine being publicly scrutinised and then vilified based on very limited information and then large amounts of fiction. This is and was always quite obviously a person who needed support not an apology.
Drew
29th July 2012, 10:10
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10822927
What a piss poorly written article.
Crasherfromwayback
29th July 2012, 10:15
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It would be interesting to see how members of this site might be functioning after their children were murdered by someone else (both immediately and years after). Imagine being publicly scrutinised and then vilified based on very limited information and then large amounts of fiction. This is and was always quite obviously a person who needed support not an apology.
Here's a bit of news for you you fucking retard. No children of mine would ever end up in that situation. But of course...it wasn't the womans doing eh? Fuck you're quite simple really. Haven't seen any 'facts' from you yet either.
Drew
29th July 2012, 10:16
The Stuff article is a another self justifying opinion piece (mirroring responses from this site). It is careful about the "facts" it compiles (relying on inferences, generalities and even events after the deaths). I wonder who the author is and what they had written prior to the coroner's report.
It would be interesting to see how members of this site might be functioning after their children were murdered by someone else (both immediately and years after). Imagine being publicly scrutinised and then vilified based on very limited information and then large amounts of fiction. This is and was always quite obviously a person who needed support not an apology.
Are you fucking drunk?
The kids had BROKEN FUCKING BONES that had not been treated, and were not a result of their last beating.
The bitch is an unfit parent, non productive member of society, and a fuckin money grubbing whore for writing that book. How can you possibly argue in her defense man?
You are right about people having jumped on the 'hate wagon', and it usually disgusts me just as much when the uninformed people start judging. But, this time their right, and you're just gonna have to accept it.
JimO
29th July 2012, 10:22
This is and was always quite obviously a person who needed a bullet in the ear not an apology.
fixed that for you
Drew
29th July 2012, 10:23
It would be interesting to see how members of this site might be functioning after their children were murdered by someone else (both immediately and years after). Imagine being publicly scrutinised and then vilified based on very limited information and then large amounts of fiction. This is and was always quite obviously a person who needed support not an apology.
Exactly what Crasher says. I might not be a perfect father, but heaven and hell wont stop me from PROTECTING my kids from harm. There's a word that sums it all up, decribes the responsibility and rewards the same. That word is PARENT, and it means more than an entire dictionary has space to define.
Katman
29th July 2012, 10:26
It would be interesting to see how members of this site might be functioning after their children were murdered by someone else (both immediately and years after). Imagine being publicly scrutinised and then vilified based on very limited information and then large amounts of fiction. This is and was always quite obviously a person who needed support not an apology.
It clearly wasn't a smart move by the McCanns leaving their daughter alone that night but I'll save my sympathy for the public vilification they suffered rather than waste any on Macsyna King.
Woodman
29th July 2012, 10:37
A question for Short circuit.
On a scale of 1 to 10, (1 being a terrible mother and 10 being a very very good mother). Where do you put macsena king?
willytheekid
29th July 2012, 10:58
Im SO Sorry Macsyna King! :yes:
...Im sorry Justice in this country is such a joke that you and yours got away with murder and neglect!
...Im sorry you and your family put themselves before the kids, closed ranks and lied over the MURDER of children.
...Im sorry people like you still have the capability and right to breed let-alone walk the streets free!
...But I am truly sorry...that the poor innocent wee Kids had to suffer such a short violent life at the hands of such pieces of shit!
HOWS THAT SHORTCIRCUIT?...like my apology?
(Because if you can't see the true injustice in this...then you are JUST as morally corrupt as these so called "parents" & "family members" who have committed this heinous crime against children!...innocent DEAD children FFS!!)
...Ride safe KBers:love: (well...those that don't disgust me!)
FJRider
29th July 2012, 11:38
there is zero moral equivalency between (for example) not telling on Johnny for pissing in your swimming pool (he did, by the way, I saw him, and all he's been eating for days is asparagus and jerusalem artichokes) and refusing to cooperate with the pleece investigation into the (lets remind ourselves) death of two infants. and to suggest there is or might be is, frankly, asinine.
And it has nothing whatsoever with learning the art of personal responsibility ... has it ... ???
Johnny may have got in the shit for pissing in the pool ... and his mates may have thought it one hell of a joke at the time too. But as usual ... cleaning up the mess you make is always somebody else's job ..... right ... ???
Most of us bemoan the lack of personal responsibility in the likes of those this thread is about .... but often lack it themselves.
Pissing in the pool is a minor trangression that would be punished nowdays by a slap on the wrist (publicly) with a wet bus ticket. Maybe a slap around the ass from dad's hand or belt (but thats against the law now ... right ... ???). And you seem to believe there is no moral comparision ... ???
By not speaking out and saying he did it ... or ... by not putting your hand up and saying "I did it" .... bit by bit ... again and again, you reduce yourself towards their level, each time you "get away with it". To the stage where you are no different from them. In your life you may not cause ... or allow ... children to die. But have you ever remained silent ... and got away with ... it. Maybe even laughed about it .... with your mates even ???
I very much doubt you can say ... NO I DIDN'T .... !!!
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 12:00
The Stuff article is a another self justifying opinion piece (mirroring responses from this site). It is careful about the "facts" it compiles (relying on inferences, generalities and even events after the deaths). I wonder who the author is and what they had written prior to the coroner's report.
Wait, whut?
If that is true, then surely the same must be true of your girlfriend Macsyna and your MMF 3some partner JOhn Cambbell? Or are they the only ones telling the truth in this sordid little affair? (during which two little kids were killed - its worth repeating that).
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 12:01
It clearly wasn't a smart move by the McCanns leaving their daughter alone that night but I'll save my sympathy for the public vilification they suffered rather than waste any on Macsyna King.
Actually thats pretty apt. And I agree.
flyingcrocodile46
29th July 2012, 12:20
And it has nothing whatsoever with learning the art of personal responsibility ... has it ... ???
Johnny may have got in the shit for pissing in the pool ... and his mates may have thought it one hell of a joke at the time too. But as usual ... cleaning up the mess you make is always somebody else's job ..... right ... ???
Most of us bemoan the lack of personal responsibility in the likes of those this thread is about .... but often lack it themselves.
Pissing in the pool is a minor trangression that would be punished nowdays by a slap on the wrist (publicly) with a wet bus ticket. Maybe a slap around the ass from dad's hand or belt (but thats against the law now ... right ... ???). And you seem to believe there is no moral comparision ... ???
By not speaking out and saying he did it ... or ... by not putting your hand up and saying "I did it" .... bit by bit ... again and again, you reduce yourself towards their level, each time you "get away with it". To the stage where you are no different from them. In your life you may not cause ... or allow ... children to die. But have you ever remained silent ... and got away with ... it. Maybe even laughed about it .... with your mates even ???
I very much doubt you can say ... NO I DIDN'T .... !!!
Such extreme comparrisons are not valid. In the majority of instances when people choose not to report minor transgressions, the consequence of those transgressions have often been considered to be minor by comparrison to the penalty for the transgression and Sensible people also understand that we all learn from our own mistakes at some point in time through hindsight and that being the case will take that into consideration when assessing whether they should report the incidents. It's called the application of common sense. Sensible people (with morals) do not apply that sort of rational to acts of murder.
Frankly, I consider that the suggestion that similarities exist and that anyone should be given a break because they don't understand the difference in consequences is to my mind as bad as the failure to report such terrible crimes.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 12:31
It clearly wasn't a smart move by the McCanns leaving their daughter alone that night but I'll save my sympathy for the public vilification they suffered rather than waste any on Macsyna King.
Sure. However many here have assumed that Chris Kahui has previously shown a propensity towards abuse of children (without basis) and also that the twins previous injuries were a result of abuse (again without basis).
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 12:34
And it has nothing whatsoever with learning the art of personal responsibility ... has it ... ???
Johnny may have got in the shit for pissing in the pool ... and his mates may have thought it one hell of a joke at the time too. But as usual ... cleaning up the mess you make is always somebody else's job ..... right ... ???
Most of us bemoan the lack of personal responsibility in the likes of those this thread is about .... but often lack it themselves.
Pissing in the pool is a minor trangression that would be punished nowdays by a slap on the wrist (publicly) with a wet bus ticket. Maybe a slap around the ass from dad's hand or belt (but thats against the law now ... right ... ???). And you seem to believe there is no moral comparision ... ???
By not speaking out and saying he did it ... or ... by not putting your hand up and saying "I did it" .... bit by bit ... again and again, you reduce yourself towards their level, each time you "get away with it". To the stage where you are no different from them. In your life you may not cause ... or allow ... children to die. But have you ever remained silent ... and got away with ... it. Maybe even laughed about it .... with your mates even ???
I very much doubt you can say ... NO I DIDN'T .... !!!
This is irrelevant and was dealt with at the beginning. The mother supplied a ton of evidence, the police had their man and botched the case....as they seem to do with monotonous regularity
nzspokes
29th July 2012, 12:34
Sure. However many here have assumed that Chris Kahui has previously shown a propensity towards abuse of children (without basis) and also that the twins previous injuries were a result of abuse (again without basis).
Well my kids were rough and tumble types. But they didnt manage to break bones. So how the fuck did that happen champ?
I will ask you again, who slaughtered those babies?
This time answer the question.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 12:36
A question for Short circuit.
On a scale of 1 to 10, (1 being a terrible mother and 10 being a very very good mother). Where do you put macsena king?
Comprehension fail. This is the issue. I would suggest that neither you or I are qualified to judge.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 12:37
Well my kids were rough and tumble types. But they didnt manage to break bones. So how the fuck did that happen champ?
I will ask you again, who slaughtered those babies?
This time answer the question.
Clearly not their mother...according to the coroner
flyingcrocodile46
29th July 2012, 12:38
This is irrelevant and was dealt with at the beginning. The mother supplied a ton of evidence, the police had their man and botched the case....as they seem to do with monotonous regularity
FFS you are as fucked in the head as ed.
nzspokes
29th July 2012, 12:42
Clearly not their mother...according to the coroner
Answer the question.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 12:47
Answer the question.
Why? That question has nothing to do with this thread.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 12:49
FFS you are as fucked in the head as ed.
Why would that be? Because I don't share the opinions of a lynch mob. You want to talk about culpability? Take a look at the society your attitudes have helped to create.
Laava
29th July 2012, 12:53
Answer the question.
Given his attitude I wonder about his own parenting abilities? The welfare and safety of the kids is secondary to culpability of the parents.
In this case, neither Macsyna or Kahui could possibly have killed the kids, as per our legal system, so they are being put on a pedestal?
Both are guilty of serious neglect and at least one of them is guilty of murder.
Number One
29th July 2012, 13:07
Im SO Sorry Macsyna King! :yes:
...Im sorry Justice in this country is such a joke that you and yours got away with murder and neglect!
...Im sorry you and your family put themselves before the kids, closed ranks and lied over the MURDER of children.
...Im sorry people like you still have the capability and right to breed let-alone walk the streets free!
...But I am truly sorry...that the poor innocent wee Kids had to suffer such a short violent life at the hands of such pieces of shit!
HOWS THAT SHORTCIRCUIT?...like my apology?
(Because if you can't see the true injustice in this...then you are JUST as morally corrupt as these so called "parents" & "family members" who have committed this heinous crime against children!...innocent DEAD children FFS!!
You said it best. :clap:
Woodman
29th July 2012, 13:08
Comprehension fail. This is the issue. I would suggest that neither you or I are qualified to judge.
It was a very simple question. All I wanted was your opinion.:(
Drew
29th July 2012, 13:36
and also that the twins previous injuries were a result of abuse (again without basis).
Not getting it seen to, is fuckin abuse in my book ya moron! Is it not torturous to leave a child with broken bones in pain? Weather it was a result of the kids being beaten, or dropped, is less than relevant when you consider all the FACTS of each aspect.
Drew
29th July 2012, 13:46
Why would that be? Because I don't share the opinions of a lynch mob. You want to talk about culpability? Take a look at the society your attitudes have helped to create.
Lynch mob? I fuckin resent that.
You wanna talk about the fuckin society that's been created, I blame bleeding hearts like you, crying over a scum bag bitch who neglected her kids, and her rights that are being abused. I call bullshit! She has no right to the dole cheque she gets, or the drugs she spends it on. Fuck, I don't reckon the bitch has the right to breath the air that responsible people do, but that could be interpreted as extreeemist I suppose.
Brett
29th July 2012, 14:44
The Stuff article is a another self justifying opinion piece (mirroring responses from this site). It is careful about the "facts" it compiles (relying on inferences, generalities and even events after the deaths). I wonder who the author is and what they had written prior to the coroner's report.
It would be interesting to see how members of this site might be functioning after their children were murdered by someone else (both immediately and years after). Imagine being publicly scrutinised and then vilified based on very limited information and then large amounts of fiction. This is and was always quite obviously a person who needed support not an apology.
So you're right and everyone except you, Macsyna and her lawyer are wrong? Go back to the fucking commune.
Brett
29th July 2012, 14:48
Here's my response for Macsyna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDqatJPvOfk&feature=related
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 15:04
Not getting it seen to, is fuckin abuse in my book ya moron!
He didn't, she did. Check your facts. Moron.
nzspokes
29th July 2012, 15:05
Why? That question has nothing to do with this thread.
Answer the question.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 15:05
Lynch mob? I fuckin resent that.
Not enough to stop and reflect and then engage your brain though eh?
Crasherfromwayback
29th July 2012, 15:07
Sure. However many here have assumed that Chris Kahui has previously shown a propensity towards abuse of children (without basis) and also that the twins previous injuries were a result of abuse (again without basis).
Yeah right. The kids broke their own bones. And the 18 month old kid killed the twins right? Fucking retard.
Kickaha
29th July 2012, 15:08
The mother supplied a ton of evidence
Of course she had no reason to lie in any of it and would have told nothing but the truth
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 15:08
Answer the question.
I did in post #116. Keep up. Again, that is not the point of the thread.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 15:10
Yeah right. The kids broke their own bones. And the 18 month old kid killed the twins right? Fucking retard.
And again, for the slow ones see my previous post, and besides the point.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 15:11
Of course she had no reason to lie in any of it and would have told nothing but the truth
You were investigating this case were you?
Kickaha
29th July 2012, 15:11
You were investigating this case were you?
No I wasn't, were you?
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 15:27
No I wasn't, were you?
And ah, who's making the judgements (assumptions)?
Laava
29th July 2012, 15:27
Anyone on here hire her as a babysitter? I am sure she could do with the money!
Crasherfromwayback
29th July 2012, 15:29
And ah, who's making the judgements (assumptions)?
You. From the very beginning of your self important thread.
flyingcrocodile46
29th July 2012, 15:30
Not enough to stop and reflect and then engage your brain though eh?
You are the perfect example of a pig ignorant bastard who shoots his mouth off irrespective of how many times his teeth are kicked out the back of his neck.
Frankly, the existence of people like you and the Kahui's sickens my soul and debases humanity. If you were my cock, I would cut you off and bury you to hide the shame and horror.
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 15:41
Why would that be? Because I don't share the opinions of a lynch mob. You want to talk about culpability? Take a look at the society your attitudes have helped to create.
Now its my fault?
Thanks for clearing that up.
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 15:42
Not getting it seen to, is fuckin abuse in my book ya moron! Is it not torturous to leave a child with broken bones in pain? Weather it was a result of the kids being beaten, or dropped, is less than relevant when you consider all the FACTS of each aspect.
Not just in your book either. Its a criminal offence.
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 15:43
And ah, who's making the judgements (assumptions)?
judgment and assumption are not synonyms.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 15:50
judgment and assumption are not synonyms.
Pedant - the judgements have stemmed from your assumptions....FWIW it links to your earlier ignorant post #144: read up on Symbolic Interactionism and Structural Functionalism. Or keep your blinkers on and just spout your usual shit. It makes no odds to me.
Jantar
29th July 2012, 16:28
Pedant - the judgements have stemmed from your assumptions....FWIW it links to your earlier ignorant post #144: read up on Symbolic Interactionism and Structural Functionalism. Or keep your blinkers on and just spout your usual shit. It makes no odds to me.
Mmm? From this I can summise that you are either studying Sociology, or you learning about the psychology of education. In either case it has nothing to do with the fact that King neglected to get prompt and adequate care for her children irrespective of who caused the injuries.
JimO
29th July 2012, 16:31
Clearly not their mother...according to the coroner
would that be the same coroner who ruled that the only people to actually help Arena Asher contributed to her death
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 16:33
Mmm? From this I can summise that you are either studying Sociology, or you learning about the psychology of education. In either case it has nothing to do with the fact that King neglected to get prompt and adequate care for her children irrespective of who caused the injuries.
Nope. I'm just not a bottom feeder. And again, that point has been addressed - the care was delayed while in his care only.
JimO
29th July 2012, 16:37
Nope. I'm just not a bottom feeder. And again, that point has been addressed - the care was delayed while in his care only.
what about her other 4 kids, none of whom does she actually care for
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 16:39
what about her other 4 kids, none of whom does she actually care for
Try reading through the thread - we've been over this
Jantar
29th July 2012, 16:40
...- the care was delayed while in his care only.
Oh? I understood the autopsy showed that the infants had suffered fractured ribs prior to the fatal injuries. Those injuries which no-one, including the mother, sought any care for. Or were they in the father's care for weeks rather than hours?
JimO
29th July 2012, 16:42
Try reading through the thread - we've been over this
lets face it she is a waste of good dole money, hopefully she ODs before she can produce any more unloved unwanted kids
Drew
29th July 2012, 16:43
Not enough to stop and reflect and then engage your brain though eh?No mirrors at your place?
Nope. I'm just not a bottom feeder. And again, that point has been addressed - the care was delayed while in his care only.She took them back to him, instead of to the police. Do you understand that? Is it sinking in? Where the fuck do you live cunt, I so desperately want to bang your thick fuckin skull against a brick wall to get the message in there.
The USELESS, CUNTING, JUNKY, FUCKING WHORE you are so keen to defend, knew who she was dropping the kids off to, and did it anyway.
Drew
29th July 2012, 16:45
Oh? I understood the autopsy showed that the infants had suffered fractured ribs prior to the fatal injuries. Those injuries which no-one, including the mother, sought any care for. Or were they in the father's care for weeks rather than hours?
That's how I read it too, but just incase I had it wrong I figured I'd put it as above.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 16:50
Oh? I understood the autopsy showed that the infants had suffered fractured ribs prior to the fatal injuries. Those injuries which no-one, including the mother, sought any care for. Or were they in the father's care for weeks rather than hours?
I was referring to the injuries relating to the attack. Those suffered prior I cannot account for. My guess is that no one else can either. As I have stated numerous times already, this thread is about a mass reaction to the mother specifically and examining the basis for it. She has since been cleared catagorically of any culpability and yet as her lawyer said, had she been tried she would not have been given a fair trial.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 16:53
Where the fuck do you live cunt
Do you want a sensible answer?
Jantar
29th July 2012, 16:55
.... She has since been cleared catagorically of any culpability .....
OK I must have missed that bit. So she has been tried on charges of failling to provide proper care and found Not Guilty. When did that trial take place?
Or are you simply saying that because the coroner has virtually stated that only Kahui could have been directly resposible for the twins' death that she is blameless for all other aspects of the infants' care as well?
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 16:58
Or are you simply saying that because the coroner has virtually stated that only Kahui could have been directly resposible for the twins' death that she is blameless for all other aspects of the infants' care as well?
Well yes to both. It was a feature of the report that specifically mentioned that there had been a high level of care for the twins previously.
flyingcrocodile46
29th July 2012, 16:58
That's how I read it too, but just incase I had it wrong I figured I'd put it as above.
I think you got it spot on in the previous post. It is cunts like him with dysfunctional moral compasses that empower evil pieces of shit like the Kahuis and enable them to live with themselves. I fucking hate taxes but would happily chip in toward laws and enforcement that saw cunts like them executed.
Jantar
29th July 2012, 17:02
Well yes to both. It was a feature of the report that specifically mentioned that there had been a high level of care for the twins previously.
And it is THAT feature of the report that shows how wrong coroners can be. A high level of care would not have included untreated brolen ribs.
flyingcrocodile46
29th July 2012, 17:03
I was referring to the injuries relating to the attack. Those suffered prior I cannot account for. My guess is that no one else can either. As I have stated numerous times already, this thread is about a mass reaction to the mother specifically and examining the basis for it. She has since been cleared catagorically of any culpability and yet as her lawyer said, had she been tried she would not have been given a fair trial.
You lying cunt. She wasn't cleared, they just couldn't prove that she either assaulted or withheld the necessities of life from them because she lied and claimed she didn't notice any injuries prior to the last bashing. Lying doesn't make you innocent.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 17:03
I fucking hate taxes but would happily chip in toward laws and enforcement that saw cunts like them executed.
See earlier post #94 referring to this place as a festering forum for facism.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 17:05
And it is THAT feature of the report that shows how wrong coroners can be. A high level of care would not have included untreated brolen ribs.
Oh so KB knew / knows better than an expert report 6 years in the making. There really is no point is there? Who are the irredeemable ones again?
Drew
29th July 2012, 17:07
I was referring to the injuries relating to the attack. Those suffered prior I cannot account for. My guess is that no one else can either. As I have stated numerous times already, this thread is about a mass reaction to the mother specifically and examining the basis for it. She has since been cleared catagorically of any culpability and yet as her lawyer said, had she been tried she would not have been given a fair trial.
Oh a hole in your picture of the cunt, lets gloss over it.
A child with broken ribs would be quite hard to settle I reckon, (having suffered broken ribs, I will attest it fuckin hurts, gizza chance and I'll educate you presonally). She cared for the kids in that time, any decent parent would have noticed a problem and taken the kids to a health professional. Even just a chemist.
short-circuit
29th July 2012, 17:08
I'm off to train in preparation for Drew's visit now.
Let it all out in my absence.
flyingcrocodile46
29th July 2012, 17:14
See earlier post #94 referring to this place as a festering forum for facism.
See EVERY SINGLE POST in this thread (except your own) which is telling you how fucked in the head you are. My bet is that with your distorted view of social behaviour, you wouldn't recognise a fascist if he was grinding his heel downward through your shattered skull to release the rancid contents on an undeserving pavement.
Drew
29th July 2012, 17:17
Do you want a sensible answer?
I'm off to train for Drew's visit now.
I live on the Esplanade in Petone, Wellington. Would love to have this conversation face to face. If you're capable of presenting the shit you spout without the safety of a cyber barrier.
flyingcrocodile46
29th July 2012, 17:18
I'm off to train in preparation for Drew's visit now.
Let it all out in my absence.
Good. Start by smashing your head in with an axe to see if that works, fuck knows the clue bat doesn't
Virago
29th July 2012, 17:24
See earlier post #94 referring to this place as a festering forum for facism.
Godwins Law. You lose.
Drew
29th July 2012, 17:28
Christ, here I am making a cunt of myself, and taking that honour away from you. Such a rookie.
Kickaha
29th July 2012, 17:30
Godwins Law. You lose.
Not sure that he does without mentioning Hitler or Nazis
Christ, here I am making a cunt of myself.
Well it is one thing you're extremely good at
Drew
29th July 2012, 17:32
Well it is one thing you're extremely good atWhere the fuck do you live old man, I'm coming to find you!
Fatt Max
29th July 2012, 19:21
Does anyone know if they wave...?
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 19:56
Clayton Weatherston needs a PR makeover and a cheerleading team. Perhaps thats where Mr S. Circuit has gone?
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 20:11
Pedant - the judgements have stemmed from your assumptions....FWIW it links to your earlier ignorant post #144: read up on Symbolic Interactionism and Structural Functionalism. Or keep your blinkers on and just spout your usual shit. It makes no odds to me.
ad hominem. I may be a pedant: but you attempted to suggest that judgments and assumptions were the same. They are not. And, lest we forget, the judgment was "not guilty": we are discussing judgment in that sense, no? Important to agree on terms before commencing. I am wearing glasses, not blinkers. Thank you for enquiring, but my bowel movement today was not a spout, more a series of clumps. I put that down to good diet, a lot of fibre, and exercise.
I think that instead of studying whatever it is you have studied (and I have zero interest in googling the two things you mention which, from the fact they are capitalised, I infer you attach some importance to, and that you might think confer some scholarly authority to your drivel). My suggestion is that you undertake a course of study with some actual intellectual and academic rigor.
I'm not sure if you could cope, but start here:
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-123
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-106
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-105
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-104
then add
http://victoria.ac.nz/law/study/courses/laws-121
These are all 100 level.
You might like to do a bit of pre-entry reading: I've found this book useful:
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Crimes-Against-Logic-Jamie-Whyte/9780071446433
Basically, what I am trying to tell you is that, you need to think about stuff, and I am trying to equip you with the tools to do that.
Because you've demonstrated a woeful lack in that regard.
Oh yeah, did you not understand the point of my post #144. You had stated that in effect it was not the fault of the family that there were TWO DEAD BABIES, but it was society's fault. I am a member of society, and I disagree: hence my humorous retort. Sorry if that went over your head.
HenryDorsetCase
29th July 2012, 20:16
Where the fuck do you live old man, I'm coming to find you!
I particularly like your Nathan Explosion avatar. it seems somehow, ....... apt.
oneofsix
29th July 2012, 21:05
Clayton Weatherston needs a PR makeover and a cheerleading team. Perhaps thats where Mr S. Circuit has gone?
awww crap. Can't someone else go. The only good PR for that guy would be a heart attack, possible brought on by external elements, the sooner someone shuts his trap the better.
SMOKEU
29th July 2012, 21:34
Ghetto brawl!!!
Kickaha
29th July 2012, 21:52
Where the fuck do you live old man, I'm coming to find you!
Forgotten already? early onset alzheimers?
I particularly like your Nathan Explosion avatar. it seems somehow, ....... apt.
Drew looks just like him except smaller, balder and weedier
Delerium
29th July 2012, 22:47
I was referring to the injuries relating to the attack. Those suffered prior I cannot account for. My guess is that no one else can either. As I have stated numerous times already, this thread is about a mass reaction to the mother specifically and examining the basis for it. She has since been cleared catagorically of any culpability and yet as her lawyer said, had she been tried she would not have been given a fair trial.
Do you breathe without being reminded that you need to in order to remain alive?
Crasherfromwayback
29th July 2012, 23:17
Nope. I'm just not a bottom feeder. .
You're no more intelligent than one though, despite you thinking otherwise.
Drew
30th July 2012, 06:23
Forgotten already? early onset alzheimers?
Drew looks just like him except smaller, balder and weedier
It's the first or second left after the round about? I always end up doing a couple laps of the block before I spy the place.
Awww, you're such a sweet talker!
Brett
30th July 2012, 08:43
ad hominem. I may be a pedant: but you attempted to suggest that judgments and assumptions were the same. They are not. And, lest we forget, the judgment was "not guilty": we are discussing judgment in that sense, no? Important to agree on terms before commencing. I am wearing glasses, not blinkers. Thank you for enquiring, but my bowel movement today was not a spout, more a series of clumps. I put that down to good diet, a lot of fibre, and exercise.
I think that instead of studying whatever it is you have studied (and I have zero interest in googling the two things you mention which, from the fact they are capitalised, I infer you attach some importance to, and that you might think confer some scholarly authority to your drivel). My suggestion is that you undertake a course of study with some actual intellectual and academic rigor.
I'm not sure if you could cope, but start here:
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-123
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-106
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-105
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/study/courses/philosophy/phil-104
then add
http://victoria.ac.nz/law/study/courses/laws-121
These are all 100 level.
You might like to do a bit of pre-entry reading: I've found this book useful:
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Crimes-Against-Logic-Jamie-Whyte/9780071446433
Basically, what I am trying to tell you is that, you need to think about stuff, and I am trying to equip you with the tools to do that.
Because you've demonstrated a woeful lack in that regard.
Oh yeah, did you not understand the point of my post #144. You had stated that in effect it was not the fault of the family that there were TWO DEAD BABIES, but it was society's fault. I am a member of society, and I disagree: hence my humorous retort. Sorry if that went over your head.
Shit no, you've gone over his head there, I think he would be better off starting with Dr. Seuss' The Cat in the Hat.
Swoop
30th July 2012, 09:22
Shit no, you've gone over his head there, I think he would be better off starting with Dr. Seuss' The Cat in the Hat.
Too advanced for Mr Circuit.
Dot-to-dot puzzles or colouring in books would be more apt.
Edit: This thread only confirms one thing. Defending the indefensible is a sad indictment on individuals and of society.
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 09:26
The previous two pages prove what exactly? My point? Well done team :clap:
Drew
30th July 2012, 09:39
The previous two pages prove what exactly? My point? Well done team :clap:If there was no war, I'd be a millionaire.
See, I can make fuckin stupid random statements too.
Paul in NZ
30th July 2012, 09:52
The previous two pages prove what exactly? My point? Well done team :clap:
It proves that you have a unique talent to annoy people and to also underestimate their intelligence. Intelligence isn't manifest in an ability to drop impressive pseudo science words into a web forum but in this case its more around a knowledge of how the world actually works.
Its all very well using these fancy words but they don't actually disguise the fact that in this case you are wrong. She does not deserve an apology and in fact considering how much of my tax dollars have gone into this whole affair and before / since feeding her and her family I really think she owes me an apology. As for the ultimate apology - to her two sons I suspect she cares less about that than she does the perceived insults to herself.
I've raised kids and now my kids are raising their kids - all of them work in early childhood or teaching, in short raising kids is something I know a little about. There is not one of them, despite difficulties, that would fail so abjectly in their care of their children as she has. While she may have not committed the actual deed you cannot for a second think that she is not complicit in this. The setting of the scene over a period of time is as much down to her as anyone else.
If the people of this forum and the general public are angry its because of this. Its because of what she represents as much as anything. In general people here and the general public are generous and fair minded but in this case - not so. We have had enough of sweeping up after this trash, white, black or brown.
Crasherfromwayback
30th July 2012, 10:04
The previous pages prove what exactly?
That you're 100% full of shit and wouldn't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
SMOKEU
30th July 2012, 10:04
http://michaelnixmusic.com/img/motivationals/007.jpg
Drew
30th July 2012, 10:08
In general people here and the general public are generous and fair minded but in this case - not so. We have had enough of sweeping up after this trash, white, black or brown.
And you were doing so well. The general public are not fair minded in my view, or our news reporters and stations would be held accountable for presenting things in such a one sided fashion.
Spot on with the rest though.:2thumbsup
MisterD
30th July 2012, 10:12
would that be the same coroner who ruled that the only people to actually help Arena Asher contributed to her death
No, different coroner, but your point addresses the OP's "The coroner says, so it must be true" stance very well indeed.
By the standards of the Asher report, the GP who sent the parents down the road to Muddlemore rather than calling an ambo "contributed" to the deaths of the twins.
Edbear
30th July 2012, 10:55
That you're 100% full of shit and wouldn't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
Stop pussy-footing and say what you really think... :whistle:
SMOKEU
30th July 2012, 11:19
This thread is so full of win. Even I couldn't come up a better troll. Or maybe I could...
Drew
30th July 2012, 11:22
This thread is so full of win. Even I couldn't come up a better troll. Or maybe I could...
Dare ya to try.
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 11:24
I watched a brilliant documentary of Maori TV last night called Salute. Anyone else watch it? This thread flitted in and out of my conciousness a couple of times as I considered societal attitudes.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0874317/
SMOKEU
30th July 2012, 11:36
Dare ya to try.
I have a few ideas, the likes of which KB has never seen before. However, I'm enjoying the fact that you're all ripping on someone else for a change so I'll just sit back and watch.
Drew
30th July 2012, 12:10
I watched a brilliant documentary of Maori TV last night called Salute. Anyone else watch it? This thread flitted in and out of my conciousness a couple of times as I considered societal attitudes.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0874317/Up until now your attitude has been annoying, keep implying the rest of us are racist, and I'ma get fucked off. Particularly since you're only doing it to scare us away from the argument you are losing.
I have a few ideas, the likes of which KB has never seen before. However, I'm enjoying the fact that you're all ripping on someone else for a change so I'll just sit back and watch.
You should collaborate with Akzel. That mofo knows how to start a wind up!
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 12:24
Up until now your attitude has been annoying, keep implying the rest of us are racist, and I'ma get fucked off. Particularly since you're only doing it to scare us away from the argument you are losing.
Wrong, I never introduced racism "once I started losing". My position has not waivered since beginning the thread - participants since have either knowingly or inadvertently confirmed it.
HenryDorsetCase
30th July 2012, 12:48
Wrong, I never introduced racism "once I started losing". My position has not waivered since beginning the thread - participants since have either knowingly or inadvertently confirmed it.
"wavered" in this context.
a "waiver" is something different.
Perhaps we could add ENGL101 to your academic programme for next year, as well as the PHIL and LAWS papers I suggested.
If I won Lotto, I would totally go back to Uni and do a degree in Philosophy and Strategic Studies. I reckon it would be really interesting. I'd have a bunch of the pre-reqs, but it wouldnt matter because I would only be doing it for interest.
Interesting that you used the term "bigots" in your initial post. I still cannot believe anyoune would be taken in by the charm offensive, and a TV interview designed to sell Mazdas or Harvey Normans or whatever. And yet you have been. Hence my suggestion for how you might improve your critical thinking and analysis skills.
HenryDorsetCase
30th July 2012, 12:52
Wrong, I never introduced racism "once I started losing". My position has not waivered since beginning the thread - participants since have either knowingly or inadvertently confirmed it.
that is so cryptic as to be meaningless.
Or, it is meaningless, but it contains juuuuust enough buzzwords that someone uninformed might think "Oooooh, he might have a point, I just can't work out what it is".
I think it can be summed up in this sentence:
"We don't hate Macsyna King because of her ethnicity, but because of her involvement in and indifference toward her two babies, and as a result of her negligence, they died".
Drew
30th July 2012, 12:59
Wrong, I never introduced racism "once I started losing". My position has not waivered since beginning the thread - participants since have either knowingly or inadvertently confirmed it.Fine, you haven't changed it. But, by repeating it since I have started posting you are saying I too am racist, well I won't fuckin wear that.
I have no opinion based on her race, whatever it might be, and I have yet to read a post on here that infers anyone else does either. You are worse than the media you are crying foul of, because without any evidence or slightest hint at all, you have made your judgement, and are trying to convince others of it. I'm no lawyer, but by the definition I recall once reading, that's fuckin very nearly liable. Pick a name, (use mine, at least that way I'll get a face to face meeting with ya), and write it herem that's all that's missing.
"wavered" in this context.
a "waiver" is something different.
Perhaps we could add ENGL101 to your academic programme for next year, as well as the PHIL and LAWS papers I suggested.
If I won Lotto, I would totally go back to Uni and do a degree in Philosophy and Strategic Studies. I reckon it would be really interesting. I'd have a bunch of the pre-reqs, but it wouldnt matter because I would only be doing it for interest.
Interesting that you used the term "bigots" in your initial post. I still cannot believe anyoune would be taken in by the charm offensive, and a TV interview designed to sell Mazdas or Harvey Normans or whatever. And yet you have been. Hence my suggestion for how you might improve your critical thinking and analysis skills.
Oi, I'm dumber than the pair of ya, so knock it off with all the clever talk. I'm getting tired of google searching every other word in a post till I understand what's being said, and you're just encouraging the mother fucker.
Tigadee
30th July 2012, 13:06
If I won Lotto, I would totally go back to Uni and do a degree in Philosophy and Strategic Studies. I reckon it would be really interesting.
What? You'd see and predict shit coming from way off and have a lively debate and wax philosophical about it? Don't the politicians do that already?:banana:
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 13:11
that is so cryptic as to be meaningless.
Or, it is meaningless, but it contains juuuuust enough buzzwords that someone uninformed might think "Oooooh, he might have a point, I just can't work out what it is".
I think it can be summed up in this sentence:
"We don't hate Macsyna King because of her ethnicity, but because of her involvement in and indifference toward her two babies, and as a result of her negligence, they died".
Sorry? Where are the buzzwords? You can't work out my point?
Where you refer to the "we" in your second sentence, are you just trying to negate the racism and bigotry that previous posters have already displayed as being at the core of their argument? Still can't work out my point?
I see you've made up the last part - disregarding the evidence contained in the report.
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 13:15
Fine, you haven't changed it. But, by repeating it since I have started posting you are saying I too am racist, well I won't fuckin wear that.
I have no opinion based on her race, whatever it might be, and I have yet to read a post on here that infers anyone else does either. You are worse than the media you are crying foul of, because without any evidence or slightest hint at all, you have made your judgement, and are trying to convince others of it. I'm no lawyer, but by the definition I recall once reading, that's fuckin very nearly liable. Pick a name, (use mine, at least that way I'll get a face to face meeting with ya), and write it herem that's all that's missing.
Oi, I'm dumber than the pair of ya, so knock it off with all the clever talk. I'm getting tired of google searching every other word in a post till I understand what's being said, and you're just encouraging the mother fucker.
You really are desperate for that "face to face" meeting aren't ya? I'm starting to think you're a racist bum bandit.
Drew
30th July 2012, 13:19
You really are desperate for that "face to face" meeting aren't ya? I'm starting to think you're a racist bum bandit.
Gotta admire your wit, and you can call me a homo till the cows come home, I don't have anything against gay people. I do have something against racists, and get very pissed off about it. So if you are winding me up in the hope of starting a fight, because I am clearly outmatched in an intelectual battle, and you want to complete my humiliation, PM me some place to be, and I'll bring people with cameras, four posts, and some rope to form the ring.
HenryDorsetCase
30th July 2012, 13:21
Gotta admire your wit, and you can call me a homo till the cows come home, I don't have anything against gay people. I do have something against racists, and get very pissed off about it. So if you are winding me up in the hope of starting a fight, because I am clearly outmatched in an intelectual battle, and you want to complete my humiliation, PM me some place to be, and I'll bring people with cameras, four posts, and some rope to form the ring.
Just go to a boxing gym. there used to be one in Petone I think.
HenryDorsetCase
30th July 2012, 13:24
Sorry? Where are the buzzwords? You can't work out my point?
Where you refer to the "we" in your second sentence, are you just trying to negate the racism and bigotry that previous posters have already displayed as being at the core of their argument? Still can't work out my point?
I see you've made up the last part - disregarding the evidence contained in the report.
It was the royal "we". Actually a synonym for "I" in this context.
Not at all. I do not consider her testimony to be reliable. I do not consider Campbell Live to be an authoritative source. Her poor decisions (starting with allowing Chris Kahui to impregnate her - assuming thats what happened) are the root cause of all of this.
And I'm done talking to you.
Congratulations on an epic troll win. Unless you are serious in which case more fool me.
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 13:28
.....you want to complete my humiliation, PM me some place to be, and I'll bring people with cameras, four posts, and some rope to form the ring.
You like it kinky and recorded huh?
Drew
30th July 2012, 13:29
Just go to a boxing gym. there used to be one in Petone I think.They gots rules and shit, they call it fighting. If he's gonna comit to calling me a racist, there will be a scrap.
Drew
30th July 2012, 13:30
You like it kinky and recorded huh?
The first one was funny, now it's just repetitive.
Obviously I don't need to continue, this man clearly lacks the power of his convictions.
Just another fuckin cyber pussy.
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 13:31
They gots rules and shit, they call it fighting. If he's gonna comit to calling me a racist, there will be a scrap.
Get your own thread homo...and find someone in Wellington to tie up and take photos of.
Drew
30th July 2012, 14:01
Get your own thread homo...and find someone in Wellington to tie up and take photos of.
Nice, still not committing to anything though are ya.
There's no point in bothering to try and point out the error in your thinking, clearly. You may have the last word, I'll pop back some time to see what it was Iain. Enjoy.
short-circuit
30th July 2012, 14:30
Nice, still not committing to anything though are ya.
There's no point in bothering to try and point out the error in your thinking, clearly. You may have the last word, I'll pop back some time to see what it was Iain. Enjoy.
OK Andrew. Sorry I can't commit babe... You'll just have to content yourself with the rest of the crew Drew: You know, the ones Henry Dorkuscase appointed himself spokesperson for.
SMOKEU
30th July 2012, 15:14
When and where is the fight happening? Is it going to be a sword fight?
Crasherfromwayback
30th July 2012, 15:20
Henry Dorkuscase appointed himself spokesperson for.
Hey a quick question for you. You do know what a 'coroner' is eh?
JimO
30th July 2012, 15:28
When and where is the fight happening? Is it going to be a sword fight?
i would say a cock fight and short-circuit will win cos he is the biggest cock
HenryDorsetCase
30th July 2012, 15:51
i would say a cock fight and short-circuit will win cos he is the biggest cock
being teh biggest cock, and having the biggest cock: inverse relationship
flyingcrocodile46
30th July 2012, 17:11
The first one was funny, now it's just repetitive.
Obviously I don't need to continue, this man clearly lacks the power of his convictions.
Just another fuckin cyber pussy.
More like a cyberqueef imo. He's so backed up with his own jisim, it's leaking out his tear ducts and ears.
i would say a cock fight and short-circuit will win cos he is the biggest cock
Fuck off! he's so fucking useless that he wouldn't even qualify as ammunition in a shit fight let alone a cock fight.
PrincessBandit
30th July 2012, 19:15
Her poor decisions (starting with allowing Chris Kahui to impregnate her - assuming thats what happened) are the root cause of all of this.
Snicker snicker - that's poetic awesomeness.
HenryDorsetCase
30th July 2012, 19:30
More like a cyberqueef imo. He's so backed up with his own jisim, it's leaking out his tear ducts and ears.
Fuck off! he's so fucking useless that he wouldn't even qualify as ammunition in a shit fight let alone a cock fight.
heh heh heh
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