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PrincessBandit
5th August 2012, 09:26
"Economists have proven it's cheaper to let Maori children die than spend money to provide equitable health treatment.

Maori children have some of the worst health outcomes in the country.

They make significantly fewer outpatient calls to hospitals, visit the doctor less, make fewer ACC claims, have fewer drugs prescribed, and undergo fewer lab tests than other groups.

Auckland University researchers say the health sector would "save" almost $25 million by doing nothing to improve the children's health outcomes, calculated on an annual basis.

There is no suggestion those involved in the study advocate such a position, and Northland doctor Clair Mills, who worked on the study, said the research found the social and long-term economic implications of doing nothing would be a far greater burden on the country to carry.

“The facts around inequities in child health of Maori are not new. It is the persistent ugly outcome of the whole way our society operates"."

At least the headline no longer reads as it did when I first read it this morning ("cheaper to let Maori children die than pay for their long term medical care"). I couldn't believe that a headline like that could appear, sure enough when i went to show my husband it had been changed to something along the line of "inequalities in healthcare for Maori children".

oldrider
5th August 2012, 09:30
Can't read your "yellow" text!

PrincessBandit
5th August 2012, 09:36
Can't read your "yellow" text!

changed it to red. Maybe it should go back to white, but then I might seem to favour whities...


p.s. on a hilarious note, at quiz night the other night one question was to name a well-loved New Zealand tv presenter (it was Selwyn Toogood). The clip showed him hosting some children's quiz show and the question was "what would you be if you were described as "yellow"? " and the kids answered, with the obligatory rising question mark in his voice "chinese?" To make matters worse there was a young Asian boy on the panel!

Scuba_Steve
5th August 2012, 09:48
Well the headline did it's job then... got you to read it

Advertising 101 - Shock & Awe

mashman
5th August 2012, 09:53
It's also cheaper to not offer ACC cover for existing or recurring injuries... they're only kids and it's the fault of the parents for not making use of the services that are provided. I'm glad my kids are white, looks like they're safe.

JimO
5th August 2012, 09:53
its cheaper to let anybody die than it is to treat them

duckonin
5th August 2012, 10:34
:nono:Drop the 'Maori' word there are none, they are multi cultural white's. Parent's are to blame not the system ! Next to blame for over zelous hype, Journo's.

FJRider
5th August 2012, 10:50
I haven't been to a hospital out-patients clinic in over 30 years. That is not to say I haven't been sick or injured. A hospital out-patients clinic is not an option I have had. Free GP visits for under 5's is available in most areas ... so a hospital out-patient visit may not be required.

I doubt if GP's declare their clients on the basis of race ... so little cross indexing of the stat's would not be possible.

This is just one bundle of statistics from one source (hospitals) trying to show/prove a point. You figure out the reason ....

Road kill
5th August 2012, 11:31
It's also cheaper to not offer ACC cover for existing or recurring injuries... they're only kids and it's the fault of the parents for not making use of the services that are provided. I'm glad my kids are white, looks like they're safe.

Yeah good one.:killingme

Your kids are not safe because their white,their safe because you look out for them.

But I suspect you already knew that huh<_<

Madness
5th August 2012, 12:22
its cheaper to let anybody die than it is to treat them

Yeah, but we wanted to pay some experts a shit load of money just so we could be sure of that fact.



"Economists have proven it's cheaper to let Maori children die than spend money to provide equitable health treatment.

Auckland University researchers say the health sector would "save" almost $25 million by doing nothing to improve the children's health outcomes, calculated on an annual basis.

The facts around inequities in child health of Maori are not new. It is the persistent ugly outcome of the whole way our society operates"

So nothing new has been learned from yet another university study, presumably funded from taxpayer coffers. How much did this cost us?

:facepalm:


Yeah good one.:killingme

Your kids are not safe because their white,their safe because you look out for them.

But I suspect you already knew that huh<_<

Short Circuit should be here any minute...

SMOKEU
5th August 2012, 12:52
This isn't news. The same thing happens in any country when people of "colour" are involved. "They" always tend to have worse health and live in poor conditions compared to white people.

James Deuce
5th August 2012, 12:54
I doubt if GP's declare their clients on the basis of race ... so little cross indexing of the stat's would not be possible.



Yes, they do and it's free for under-6s not under-5s.

ducatilover
5th August 2012, 13:13
This isn't news. The same thing happens in any country when people of "colour" are involved. "They" always tend to have worse health and live in poor conditions compared to white people.
Fuckin' Amazonian pricks!

mashman
5th August 2012, 13:14
Yeah good one.:killingme

Your kids are not safe because their white,their safe because you look out for them.

But I suspect you already knew that huh<_<

Not sure why you are laughing. My kids are white, it means that they won't suffer at the hands of the majority of racists, it means that they have a better chance of a good education, it means they have a better chance of staying out of jail, it means they have a brighter future and not just coz their whole body glows in the dark as opposed to their eyes and teeth. I know this because the government says so and as they are the ones who make the decisions in regards to who gets what, and are mainly white, I have no need to fear for the future of my children... their own will take care of them.


This isn't news. The same thing happens in any country when people of "colour" are involved. "They" always tend to have worse health and live in poor conditions compared to white people.

Funny. I grew up playing with the kids on several housing estates where I never saw a black face and they lived in conditions that were by far worse than my own, which wasn't exactly an affluent background by any means. So I call bullshit you racist piece of monkey spunk. Just because you're white doesn't mean that your Dad was.

Drew
5th August 2012, 13:16
I am clearly the only one who sees this as a fault, not with the health system?

I'm not being racist, the first cunt says I am gets red every day for a month.

There seems to be a problem at the education of parents. The health system is there for them, as it is for everyone else.

Inequities in the health system is a gross misrepresentation of the situation.

ducatilover
5th August 2012, 13:18
I am clearly the only one who sees this as a fault, not with the health system?

I'm not being racist, the first cunt says I am gets red every day for a month.

There seems to be a problem at the education of parents. The health system is there for them, as it is for everyone else.

Inequities in the health system is a gross misrepresentation of the situation. Don't be so logical!
I was hoping for this to turn in to a proper racist thread.

Drew
5th August 2012, 13:20
Don't be so logical!
I was hoping for this to turn in to a proper racist thread.

As soon as I saw you'd posted, I was thinking i was gonna have to try and give enough bling every day, to red rep the same person every day. I was not looking forward to that.

skinman
5th August 2012, 13:22
I thought at the start this was an "insert line here" thread
apparently its not, but I will anyway cause I am good like that

so

What kind of country do we live in when:

"a race can claim rights to the water in the rivers and be taken seriously"

I mean FFS

you must be joking right?

whats next?

dino3310
5th August 2012, 13:28
"What kind of country are we living in when...? "

That be NZ

Drew
5th August 2012, 13:31
I thought at the start this was an "insert line here" thread
apparently its not, but I will anyway cause I am good like that

so

What kind of country do we live in when:

"a race can claim rights to the water in the rivers and be taken seriously"

I mean FFS

you must be joking right?

whats next?

We live in a country, where we claim equality amongst all citezins, and then fail to TEACH IT TO OUR FUCKING CHIDREN!

I don't like it, but I'm too lazy to do anything but teach my kids that race means fuck all.

But in that fight, it's me versus the media and nearly any orginisation in the public eye, so I'll likely lose.

Even bleeding hearts are guilty of fucking it all up, with stupid threads like this, that very adversly reflect what is really happening.

Rant over, return to winding up the drongos with their self rightous heads inserted securely up their own arses!

FJRider
5th August 2012, 13:36
... so

What kind of country do we live in when:

"a race can claim rights to the water in the rivers and be taken seriously"

I mean FFS

you must be joking right?

whats next?

I'll play your game ... How about ....

In a multi-cultural country ... a political party is allowed to be formed.

By members of ... and for the benefit of ... members of one race of people.

And not be declared racist.

SMOKEU
5th August 2012, 13:42
Funny. I grew up playing with the kids on several housing estates where I never saw a black face and they lived in conditions that were by far worse than my own, which wasn't exactly an affluent background by any means. So I call bullshit you racist piece of monkey spunk. Just because you're white doesn't mean that your Dad was.

I wasn't saying anything racist. According to government statistics, Maori people generally have poorer health and a significantly shorter lifespan than non Maori. They also tend to suffer from higher levels of domestic violence, alcohol and substance abuse, and are more likely to be tobacco smokers. I'm not saying anything that isn't true.

Drew
5th August 2012, 13:56
I wasn't saying anything racist. According to government statistics, Maori people generally have poorer health and a significantly shorter lifespan than non Maori. They also tend to suffer from higher levels of domestic violence, alcohol and substance abuse, and are more likely to be tobacco smokers. I'm not saying anything that isn't true.

Ducks have webbed feet.

Another arbitrary fact for you to throw around there.

Why is not the fault of the famillies, and their culture, that the kids are being failed? Why the fuck is it the fault of the "country"?

Is it not racist of the people screaming blue murder, that we need to spend more money on them than we do on the 'whites'?

There is no 'us and them', nor are there any innocent fucking victims.

Bitches still be trippin.

SMOKEU
5th August 2012, 14:01
Why is not the fault of the famillies, and their culture, that the kids are being failed? Why the fuck is it the fault of the "country"?


Because then it's racist to blame the individuals. The PC alternative is to blame society as a whole.

Drew
5th August 2012, 14:12
Because then it's racist to blame the individuals. The PC alternative is to blame society as a whole.

It is not racist to point out a trend. It is racist to judge people based on that trend.

The people saying that it is societies fault, are judging based on a trend.

SMOKEU
5th August 2012, 14:49
It is not racist to point out a trend. It is racist to judge people based on that trend.



That's like saying "people in jail are statistically more likely to be violent than those not in jail, but we shouldn't judge people who are in jail".

James Deuce
5th August 2012, 15:02
That's like saying "people in jail are statistically more likely to be violent than those not in jail, but we shouldn't judge people who are in jail".
Actually, we shouldn't. If one of them gets their shit together, society wins. Now give that man a job.

FJRider
5th August 2012, 15:27
... but we shouldn't judge people who are in jail".

Of course not ... they have already been judged. AND found guilty.

Thats why they're in jail in the first place.

mashman
5th August 2012, 15:37
I wasn't saying anything racist. According to government statistics, Maori people generally have poorer health and a significantly shorter lifespan than non Maori. They also tend to suffer from higher levels of domestic violence, alcohol and substance abuse, and are more likely to be tobacco smokers. I'm not saying anything that isn't true.

As white isn't a colour, you were being racist and truly to form... don't be ashamed of what you are. Not saying anything that isn't true? You're quoting govt statistics FFS.

SMOKEU
5th August 2012, 16:04
As white isn't a colour, you were being racist and truly to form... don't be ashamed of what you are. Not saying anything that isn't true? You're quoting govt statistics FFS.

You got me on that one. Technically white is a shade, not a colour.

jellywrestler
5th August 2012, 16:29
There seems to be a problem at the education of parents. The health system is there for them, as it is for everyone else.

So that Stinking Maori Affairs dept too, if that ain't a racist organisation then I don't know what is

ducatilover
5th August 2012, 16:44
As soon as I saw you'd posted, I was thinking i was gonna have to try and give enough bling every day, to red rep the same person every day. I was not looking forward to that.

:bleh: Here to help mate

racist cunt...



I'd rather hang out with M. L. King or Willie Apiata than SMOKEU.

Or Ray Charles.

Then again SMOKEU could help me install Ubuntu on my PC, I bet no gutter licking, porch hangin', cotton picking coon gonna do that.

Except all those chaps I went to school with.

Racism is for the weak minded, insecure and naive.

Swoop
5th August 2012, 16:52
Economists have proven ...
There's your first mistake. An economist is like a weather forecaster... nothing more than a fucking hopeless guess-merchant. Probably has a moustache as well...

Short Circuit should be here any minute...
Let's hope so! He (?) will enlighten this thread with so much wisdom, professors will resign in disgrace for having so little knowledge compared to him/(her?).

awa355
5th August 2012, 16:56
Talking about racial matters, I see that Stevie Wonder is getting a divorce. Apparently he cant see any way through the problem :banana::banana:

ducatilover
5th August 2012, 17:04
There's your first mistake. Am economist is like a weather forecaster... nothing more than a fucking hopeless guess-merchant. Probably has a moustache as well...
.

I adore how they talk about the economy as if it isn't man made and man controlled. :lol:

Drew
5th August 2012, 17:11
I adore how they talk about the economy as if it isn't man made and man controlled. :lol:

Oh fuck, this has turned into a boring thread without ever really getting interesting.

Piss weak!


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Road kill
5th August 2012, 17:24
Not sure why you are laughing. My kids are white, it means that they won't suffer at the hands of the majority of racists, it means that they have a better chance of a good education, it means they have a better chance of staying out of jail, it means they have a brighter future and not just coz their whole body glows in the dark as opposed to their eyes and teeth. I know this because the government says so and as they are the ones who make the decisions in regards to who gets what, and are mainly white, I have no need to fear for the future of my children... their own will take care of them.



Funny. I grew up playing with the kids on several housing estates where I never saw a black face and they lived in conditions that were by far worse than my own, which wasn't exactly an affluent background by any means. So I call bullshit you racist piece of monkey spunk. Just because you're white doesn't mean that your Dad was.

I stand by the laugh,and I stand by the statement you are the reason your kids are safe.
In exactly the same way my kids are safe.
You see mine are brown and both are doing very well because I didn't let them buy into some company/gov't line about how they shouldn't be.
I grew up in this country and went to school during the 60's for a total of 5 years state school education and nothing more,plus I have a pretty good tan.
So why am I not living on the dole and blaming the Pakeha for my plight ?
According to your logic I should be right !
And you call smoku a racist ?,,must be a Tui add in there somewhere.

Drew
5th August 2012, 17:26
I stand by the laugh,and I stand by the statement you are the reason your kids are safe.
In exactly the same way my kids are safe.
You see mine are brown and both are doing very well because I didn't let them buy into some company/gov't line about how they shouldn't be.
I grew up in this country and went to school during the 60's for a total of 5 years state school education and nothing more,plus I have a pretty good tan.
So why am I not living on the dole and blaming the Pakeha for my plight ?
According to your logic I should be right !
And you call smoku a racist ?,,must be a Tui add in there somewhere.


Yeah...What the black cunt said!

ducatilover
5th August 2012, 17:28
Throw all the kids in the tumble dryer?

I'm not a very good troll

Won't need that camera now, got one coming, decided I may as well put my not-smoking-this-week-too-tight money towards something more than GN parts :lol:

Drew
5th August 2012, 17:32
decided I may as well put my not-smoking-this-week-too-tight money I haven't managed to actually end up with extra money yet, and it's been three weeks!

Oh yeah. Ummmmm...I hate green people!

Road kill
5th August 2012, 17:41
Yeah...What the black cunt said!

That's brown cunt to you ya' fucking village dweller.

mashman
5th August 2012, 17:41
I stand by the laugh,and I stand by the statement you are the reason your kids are safe.
In exactly the same way my kids are safe.
You see mine are brown and both are doing very well because I didn't let them buy into some company/gov't line about how they shouldn't be.
I grew up in this country and went to school during the 60's for a total of 5 years state school education and nothing more,plus I have a pretty good tan.
So why am I not living on the dole and blaming the Pakeha for my plight ?
According to your logic I should be right !
And you call smoku a racist ?,,must be a Tui add in there somewhere.

You must be the exception to the rule.


Throw all the kids in the tumble dryer?

I'm not a very good troll


:killingme

Drew
5th August 2012, 17:45
That's brown cunt to you ya' fucking village dweller.

That's red neck to you fucker!

Edbear
5th August 2012, 17:59
Don't be so logical!
I was hoping for this to turn in to a proper racist thread.

He's been really annoying like that lately... :wacko:

Drew
5th August 2012, 18:03
He's been really annoying like that lately... :wacko:You take that back, you take it back right fuckin now church boy!

Edbear
5th August 2012, 18:10
"Economists have proven it's cheaper to let Maori children die than spend money to provide equitable health treatment.

Maori children have some of the worst health outcomes in the country.

They make significantly fewer outpatient calls to hospitals, visit the doctor less, make fewer ACC claims, have fewer drugs prescribed, and undergo fewer lab tests than other groups.

Auckland University researchers say the health sector would "save" almost $25 million by doing nothing to improve the children's health outcomes, calculated on an annual basis.

There is no suggestion those involved in the study advocate such a position, and Northland doctor Clair Mills, who worked on the study, said the research found the social and long-term economic implications of doing nothing would be a far greater burden on the country to carry.

“The facts around inequities in child health of Maori are not new. It is the persistent ugly outcome of the whole way our society operates"."

At least the headline no longer reads as it did when I first read it this morning ("cheaper to let Maori children die than pay for their long term medical care"). I couldn't believe that a headline like that could appear, sure enough when i went to show my husband it had been changed to something along the line of "inequalities in healthcare for Maori children".

The media are in a ratings war and as with most wars the innocent civilians are the casualties along with the truth.

Yes, in most countries the indigenous people are in similar circumstances. They have been in this state for so many generations it will take a concentrated effort on all sides to change.

I know many of all races who are doing very well and interaction with those at the bottom show a major attitude problem which Psychologists refer to as "learned behaviour."

Edbear
5th August 2012, 18:12
You take that back, you take it back right fuckin now church boy!

And if I don't...? :whistle:

Drew
5th August 2012, 18:38
And if I don't...? :whistle:

Oh there'll be bad rep, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad bloody rep!

Edbear
5th August 2012, 18:44
Oh there'll be bad rep, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad bloody rep!

:banana: :killingme: :nya: :bleh:

schrodingers cat
5th August 2012, 18:53
This isn't news. Compared to pakeha, minorities tend to have worse health and live in poorer conditions .

Now I'm not necessarily Mr Smokeu's biggest fan. He disappointed this time with what I though was a fairly balanced reply and moderate reaction to the flaming he has endured since. I was looking forward to a real shocker...

Anyhoo - with a bit of tweaking I've improved his post to convey the same sentiment without upsetting all the touchy feelies

I'd like everybody to try a whole lot harder trotting out things to be inscened about. Important issues like 'gingernut recipe changed' or 'Australia claims pavola it's own'. Shit that kiwis should really get burned up about!

PrincessBandit
6th August 2012, 18:31
And still I ask "what the hell kind of country are we living in when...:" (both articles on stuff's homepage tonight)



“A beaten and starving child was found by Greytown teachers foraging in rubbish bins for food after her adopted family barely clothed or fed her, a court has heard.
Russell Guy Kenneth Kennedy, 63, and Leonie Kennedy, 59, both of Wairarapa are both charged with cruelly ill-treating and wilfully neglecting a girl under the age of 16 between September 16, 1983 and July 6, 1987 in Greytown.
Both have pleaded not guilty. “
And then this:
“Children are alleged to have been tied up and insects, a snail and a spider put in their mouths at a Porirua house.
The parents of eight children have gone on trial in Wellington for neglecting them and committing sexual offences against them.
As well as sexually abusing the children, the father, 55, is accused of tying the children to a clothes line at their home and spinning them around.
He is also accused of using a knife to sexually assault three of his daughters and tying up some of the children and putting insects, a snail, and a spider in their mouths.
In the High Court at Wellington today prosecutor Geraldine Kelly said one of the children was raped on the kitchen table while the mother, 42, watched and two "uncles" took part in the abuse.
The mother is also accused of sexually assaulting both her daughters and her son.
The parents and "uncles" aged 39 and 56, have name suppression.
They have pleaded not guilty to a total of 51 charges…
Lawyer Paul Surridge, for the other "uncle" said the children did not come from a rosy home environment and might be saying some things to get attention for their plight.
The evidence came from dysfunctional children who were either untruthful or unreliable, he said. “

FFS! It just keeps getting more and more vile. Yes, it falls to the parents or guardians (hahahaha what fucking laughable terms for some) to care for the children of this country. No one wants a nanny state or big brother keeping the big eye on them but no one seems to be able to do a damned thing to stop this from continuing. Aaaarrggggh - makes me want to shoot the breeding arsewipes. Yeah, I don't usually swear like this but it rarks me up so badly.

Drew
6th August 2012, 18:51
I'm confused by the first article. This malnourished kid in the Wairarapa was 20 years ago, how are the parents just now coming infront of a court?

I still don't think it's the countries fault, but it makes me wanna vomit.

onearmedbandit
6th August 2012, 18:59
It's no different from people blaming KB for the things posted here. It ain't the sites fault, it's simply the members who do the postings. Should all the other members of KB be made to be responsible? Should SM and MT? Just the same as the issue at discussion here. It ain't NZ's fault. Nor is it the leaders of the country. Nor is everyone else responsible for it. It's the people doing the shit.

Oakie
6th August 2012, 19:08
For me the 'news' item originally quoted lost a fair chunk of credibility with it's first word. "Economists....".

PrincessBandit
6th August 2012, 20:09
It's no different from people blaming KB for the things posted here. It ain't the sites fault, it's simply the members who do the postings. Should all the other members of KB be made to be responsible? Should SM and MT? Just the same as the issue at discussion here. It ain't NZ's fault. Nor is it the leaders of the country. Nor is everyone else responsible for it. It's the people doing the shit.

I agree with you to a degree, but the end result is that these scumbags continue to abuse their kids at will with nothing to apparently stop them - they sure as hell ain't gonna stop of their own accord are they.

Edbear
6th August 2012, 20:23
I agree with you to a degree, but the end result is that these scumbags continue to abuse their kids at will with nothing to apparently stop them - they sure as hell ain't gonna stop of their own accord are they.

Sadly there is no easy answer. Neighbours usually know something is not right next door but either don't know how serious it is or are reluctant to get involved. All society can really do is publicise the issue to the same degree as smoking, alcohol and drug abuse is now. Make it publicly unnacceptable to do these things and encourage people to make the call.

onearmedbandit
6th August 2012, 20:39
I agree with you to a degree, but the end result is that these scumbags continue to abuse their kids at will with nothing to apparently stop them - they sure as hell ain't gonna stop of their own accord are they.


So what do you propose we as a society do then? The only actions I could see working would be, nah sorry no matter what we do it will still occur. I'm not saying that is acceptable, but I'm being a realist here. Even my old fall back, 'breeding licenses' would not stop it. The only thing that might work is the 'pre-cogs' from that Tom Cruise movie.

mashman
6th August 2012, 20:56
No one wants a nanny state or big brother keeping the big eye on them but no one seems to be able to do a damned thing to stop this from continuing.

Unfortunately this is likely to be the only "answer". The only alternative is to house, cloth and feed these children, as you say the guardians likely aren't doing a very good job of it. Who else will? As a society we aren't equipped to deal with this sort of thing because it all comes down to money. No I'm not harping on about the $$$, but that is very much the bottom line and if the "institutions" that we put in place to help these kids are run on a shoestring then we're likely to see these kids leaving their "home" and ending up on the streets (not necessarily homeless, but becoming streetwise). It's likely been said before and unfortunately will likely be abused by kids wanting away from their parents just because they don't like them, but kids need to know that there is somewhere safe they can go. We, as a society fail these kids just as much as the parents. Oh I know that 99% of you will harp on about the useless parents, and I agree with that whole heartedly, but that does not mean that the abuse hasn't happened and that it will stop and never ever happen again. We fail these kids because we do not provide a solid backup for them and at that point in time of their lives WE are responsible for them whether we like it or not.

Until we have the solid backup and these kids feel brave enough to out their parents, we will end up with pieces of shit getting away with fucked up despicable acts. We're not responsible for the abuse, but we could do a damn site more to keep its affects to a minimum... but as it takes $$$ to looks after hundreds/thousands of abused kids through to adulthood. I hold out little hope that we will be the society that made a realistic start.

300weatherby
6th August 2012, 21:19
"Economists have proven it's cheaper to let Maori children die than spend money to provide equitable health treatment.

Maori children have some of the worst health outcomes in the country.

They make significantly fewer outpatient calls to hospitals, visit the doctor less, make fewer ACC claims, have fewer drugs prescribed, and undergo fewer lab tests than other groups.

Auckland University researchers say the health sector would "save" almost $25 million by doing nothing to improve the children's health outcomes, calculated on an annual basis.

There is no suggestion those involved in the study advocate such a position, and Northland doctor Clair Mills, who worked on the study, said the research found the social and long-term economic implications of doing nothing would be a far greater burden on the country to carry.

“The facts around inequities in child health of Maori are not new. It is the persistent ugly outcome of the whole way our society operates"."

At least the headline no longer reads as it did when I first read it this morning ("cheaper to let Maori children die than pay for their long term medical care"). I couldn't believe that a headline like that could appear, sure enough when i went to show my husband it had been changed to something along the line of "inequalities in healthcare for Maori children".

Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars have gone into the pockets of those that "represent" moari. Funny how it doesn't trickle down to the lowest common denominator- go and give your local iwi shit about it and stop wanting to dig in my taxpayer pocket claiming discrimination- my kids get healthcare because I will go without fags, booze, pokies and I have standards.

There is no "inequality", go get the dough from your cash laden moari greivence gravy train, good luck with that by the way............

jellywrestler
6th August 2012, 21:47
And then this:
“Children are alleged to have been tied up and insects, a snail and a spider put in their mouths at a Porirua house.

That's cause the government put the smoke prices up and they can't afford proper food!

Berries
6th August 2012, 23:43
I'd like everybody to try a whole lot harder trotting out things to be inscened about. Important issues like 'gingernut recipe changed' or 'Australia claims pavola it's own'. Shit that kiwis should really get burned up about!
To be honest, I am starting to get inscened about the piss poor spelling in what is a written forum.

Fucktrads.

ducatilover
7th August 2012, 00:19
To be honest, I am starting to get inscened about the piss poor spelling in what is a written forum.

Fucktrads.

You retread.

PrincessBandit
7th August 2012, 06:55
Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars have gone into the pockets of those that "represent" moari. Funny how it doesn't trickle down to the lowest common denominator- go and give your local iwi shit about it and stop wanting to dig in my taxpayer pocket claiming discrimination- my kids get healthcare because I will go without fags, booze, pokies and I have standards.

There is no "inequality", go get the dough from your cash laden moari greivence gravy train, good luck with that by the way............

Society includes Maori and their own support systems, such as they are. Were you under the impression that the message was about fleecing more $ out of white middle class NZers (of which I am one) to sort this out? When I asked the question "what kind of country are we living in?" it did include ALL New Zealanders, not just the white ones...

schrodingers cat
7th August 2012, 16:33
To be honest, I am starting to get inscened about the piss poor spelling in what is a written forum.

Fucktrads.

PrincessBandit - Start a tnew thread. Maori speling reel bad

Then I'll be pleased cause Berries is real angry.

Win Win

Drew
7th August 2012, 17:47
PrincessBandit - Start a tnew thread. Maori speling reel bad

Then I'll be pleased cause Berries is real angry.

Win Win

U need 2 aks nicer.

schrodingers cat
7th August 2012, 18:06
U need 2 aks nicer.




Blah blah headline Maori children blah couldn't believe! Blah Maori children

Love. When you're finished in the kitchen start that new post like I asked. Then cook me some eggs.

(That better Drew?)

Drew
7th August 2012, 18:30
Love. When you're finished in the kitchen start that new post like I asked. Then cook me some eggs.

(That better Drew?)

Onya:lol:

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PrincessBandit
7th August 2012, 18:39
Cook your own f@ckin eggs.




You can start with the ones in your shorts.

TINA RAY
7th August 2012, 19:29
COMPULSORY STERILISATION IS THE ANSWER, TOO MUCH SEX BREEDS CHILDREN :yes:

ABORTION IS GREAT TOO, BUT MORE COSTLY

IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD 'EM, GET RID OF 'EM

ducatilover
7th August 2012, 19:32
COMPULSORY STERILISATION IS THE ANSWER, TOO MUCH SEX BREEDS CHILDREN :yes:

ABORTION IS GREAT TOO, BUT MORE COSTLY

IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD 'EM, GET RID OF 'EM
I can't make my mind up, both kill babies, but one gives women a choice.

schrodingers cat
7th August 2012, 22:25
Cook your own f@ckin eggs.


I'll take that as "Not right now dear, I'm a bit busy and all"



You can start with the ones in your shorts.

Not much of a meal given the way they shrivel in response to your potty mouth.

PrincessBandit
8th August 2012, 07:37
I'll take that as "Not right now dear, I'm a bit busy and all"

Not much of a meal given the way they shrivel in response to your potty mouth.

Oh dear, but you seem to be coping better than another member on here who took great offence to something I told him to do... :clap: (Although he really was asking for it).

p.s. adding "love" before it didn't work (now if you'd said "and in return I'll rub your feet, run you a hot bath, and wash your bike for you for a month" I'd have probably said "ok!" ) :msn-wink:

FJRider
8th August 2012, 08:24
p.s. adding "love" before it didn't work (now if you'd said "and in return I'll rub your feet, run you a hot bath, and wash your bike for you for a month" I'd have probably said "ok!" ) :msn-wink:

The next time you're down this way ... drop in to my place and rub my feet, run ME a bath, and clean my bike (Only once is fine) and I'll cook YOU some eggs ... ;)

Swoop
8th August 2012, 11:39
Cook your own f@ckin eggs.
10chars.....
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schrodingers cat
8th August 2012, 18:11
p.s. adding "love" before it didn't work (now if you'd said "and in return I'll rub your feet, run you a hot bath, and wash your bike for you for a month" I'd have probably said "ok!" ) :msn-wink:

You know and I know that when a man does all that for a woman it isn't eggs he's banking on...

Call me pathetic. Call me predicatable. I prefer uncomplicated (easy to please)

Drew
8th August 2012, 18:19
You know and I know that when a man does all that for a woman it isn't eggs he's banking on...

Call me pathetic. Call me predicatable. I prefer uncomplicated (easy to please)

Diamonds. Then she'll have to!

PrincessBandit
8th August 2012, 20:00
The next time you're down this way ... drop in to my place and rub my feet, run ME a bath, and clean my bike (Only once is fine) and I'll cook YOU some eggs ... ;)


You know and I know that when a man does all that for a woman it isn't eggs he's banking on...

Call me pathetic. Call me predicatable. I prefer uncomplicated (easy to please)


Diamonds. Then she'll have to!

Hahahahahaha, luffs youse all. It's true!

Berries
8th August 2012, 21:44
Diamonds. Then she'll have to!
I was thinking scrambled.