Olympic rings burned into your plasma TV? Inconsiderate Prime/Sky

[Maki]

Do you have a plasma TV? Have you had the Prime TV/Sky Olympics on a lot? Have a look at some other material and see if you can still see those olympic rings when there is a light background. If you can they have burned into your plasma display. Hopefully this will fade and eventually go away in time.

I called Prime yesterday and asked them to tone the rings down so that my plasma and others would not have to be showing these rings for the next months. The reply I got was that this was not their fault. It was because of my "settings". I find this very disappointing since it shows a lack understanding and a self centered approach. Their attitude is that it can not be their fault and the customer is to blame. I have had my plasma TV on the same settings for about a year and never had any issues resembling this. I therefore believe that this problem has nothing to do with my settings but everything to do with the fact that Prime/Sky insists on broadcasting material that can damage plasma screens. I find this a remarkably self centered and silly approach since it would be easy for them to fade the rings to a gray similar to the gray of the Prime logo and then no one would have this problem.

Since Prime/Sky does not seem to be a customer service oriented company and it does not seem to want to implement simple measures for their benefit I will aviod doing any business with them in the future and I encourage any others to consider their dealings with this company carefully.

Have a look at your plasma and if you are not happy please call Prime on 0800 759 759 or their email form available from this page.

https://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/216/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMzQ0NDU0NzU2L3NpZC9FKjdxMWMzbA%3D% 3D

Enjoy the olympics but take care of your TV...

[nzspokes]

Plasma is so last year.

[Maki]

so I should just get a gray tone LCD display so that Prime does not brand my display with the rings? I don't think so...

[nzspokes]

CRT for the win. Dont believe the hype.

[Kiwi Graham]

You know there is a setting to 'clean' your screen aye, takes about 2 minutes and removes any residual images ;)

[240]

Plasma? do they still make those?

[Maki]

Thanks, but wouldn't it be nice if Prime could have the rings a light gray like their logo? It is not as if anyone is any doubt that they are broadcasting the olympics...

[nzspokes]

So you have a TV that holds images that stay on them for a period of time. :wacko:

Guess that makes watching porn a problem.......

[Paul in NZ]

Grey - white or seal liver puce it won't matter as you will get some screen burn with a plasma. Most modern screens have a setting to remove ot mitigate it by shifting the pixels about a tad.

Yes - the broadcasters could move the logo about the screen every 5mins but they never have....

[Maki]

Grey - white or seal liver puce it won't matter as you will get some screen burn with a plasma. Most modern screens have a setting to remove ot mitigate it by shifting the pixels about a tad.

Yes - the broadcasters could move the logo about the screen every 5mins but they never have....

Shows how much they care, doesn't it...

[Paul in NZ]

Shows how much they care, doesn't it...

Either that or its injected by sky and prime can't change it or there is some technical issue?

Best bet is for you is to clean your screen regularly anyway...

[Usarka]

Sky doesn't care about you, they care about maintaining their monopoly and doing deals with telcos to make it harder for NZ'ers to access alternative content. Allegedly.

[Latte]

Sky doesn't care about you, they care about maintaining their monopoly and doing deals with telcos to make it harder for NZ'ers to access alternative content. Allegedly.

Allegedly Allegedly.

[skippa1]

they are not Olymipic rings, they are really eyes and they are watching you....they are....they can see you sitting there :blink:

[jasonu]

Plasma is so last year.

Yep plasma is the new Beta video tape.

[The Lone Rider]

I dunno if the living room is a plasma, or LCD (definitely have two CRT elsewhere though) but I've fired them a message. I dislike those programing watermarks.

[Swoop]

Yep plasma is the new Beta video tape.

..........
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[neels]

Yep plasma is the new Beta video tape.
You're probably right there, much better technology overpowered by marketing for profit margins.

Haven't noticed any issues with the rings staying on our plasma when it's turned off, anyway I suspect prime just get the feed from whoever supplies it, and it's probably part of the licencing that the rings have to be on the screen.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Shows how much they care, doesn't it...

It astonishes me that you expect them to.

Good grief man, television is not about viewers. it is about delivering audiences to advertisers. YOU ARE NOT THE CUSTOMER.

And you should watch better TV. Sport is not news. sport is not interesting. stick and ball sports are fucking boring. motorsport is approved. You may watch as much of that as you like.

Send me your schedule for approval.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Who else totally read that in Snakes voice?

[oneofsix]

It astonishes me that you expect them to.

Good grief man, television is not about viewers. it is about delivering audiences to advertisers. YOU ARE NOT THE CUSTOMER.

And you should watch better TV. Sport is not news. sport is not interesting. stick and ball sports are fucking boring. motorsport is approved. You may watch as much of that as you like.

Send me your schedule for approval.

I enjoy my stick and balls sports, especially when a furry hole is involved but that doesn't involve a TV, Mrs finds porn a turn off which makes it counter productive.

What channels don't have watermarks these days? Therefore if you stay on any channel too long your plasma will suffer. One of the draw backs of Plasma, apart from their power usage and weight.

[sil3nt]

:lol:

This thread is fkn funny!

[Stirts]

stick and ball sports are fucking boring.

I disagree, I quite enjoyed watching the mens diving :blip:

[Maki]

You're probably right there, much better technology overpowered by marketing for profit margins.

Haven't noticed any issues with the rings staying on our plasma when it's turned off, anyway I suspect prime just get the feed from whoever supplies it, and it's probably part of the licencing that the rings have to be on the screen.

There is not going to be any issue when your TV is turned off. The problem is when you are looking at other material with a light background and the olympic rings turn up. Have a look, and call prime if your not happy.

[Maki]

It astonishes me that you expect them to.

Good grief man, television is not about viewers. it is about delivering audiences to advertisers. YOU ARE NOT THE CUSTOMER.

And you should watch better TV. Sport is not news. sport is not interesting. stick and ball sports are fucking boring. motorsport is approved. You may watch as much of that as you like.

Send me your schedule for approval.

If it's about delivering audiences to advertisers, then why piss off the audience? Don't you understand that television is really a wankfest about who has the biggest and brightest logo and who secures the broadcasting right to the biggest events? (Look, mine is bigger than yours, essentially).

Just out of interest, where is the competion to SKY TV? Do they have a monopoly on their market segment? If so, is that legal, ethical and desirable? Should they not at least be required to break their business up into smaller units?

For all those who can't afford a state of the art plasma, tough luck but that's the way the cookie crumbles. The world is full of haves and have nots, always has been and always will be.

And finally, no I am not a shareholder in SKY

[imdying]

For all those who can't afford a state of the art plasma, tough luck but that's the way the cookie crumbles.Indeed, that's life... fortunately state of the art plasmas don't suffer from this in any case. Of course, they're hideously expensive and all but out of production. Once the difference between an (admittedly expensive) LCD and a plasma became imperceptible to consumers, that was pretty much the final nail in the coffin... Panasonic was one mob that held out for a pretty long time though. Some people used to get wound up about black blacks, but the reality was that as soon as they used them in an environment that had ambient light, that argument was moot. Gave them something to wank on about though, even if it did make them appear clueless.

[Swoop]

Who else totally read that in Snakes voice?
That is what caused me to find the Snake image. Every time I see the word "Beta" it is now immesurably linked with Snake and pronounced in his voice!

[jasonu]

I dunno if the living room is a plasma, or LCD (definitely have two CRT elsewhere though) but I've fired them a message. I dislike those programing watermarks.

If it is red hot it is a plasma.

[The Lone Rider]

Just out of interest, where is the competion to SKY TV?


It's called the internet and things like TV on Demand (and torrents).

NZ as a whole just needs to raise it's average techno level so blistering fast net and basic computer competence across all ages is common enough that the idea of not having either is foreign.

Your kids kids may see the start of that.

[Scuba_Steve]

I would think you'd find it's a requirement to broadcast those rings if you're broadcasting the olympics... It's a brand & like all brands it must be advertised! The rings have always been broadcasted.
My suggestion would be stop watching the olympics, I wish they'd just hurry up & finish anyways. I'm waiting on good programming like Doctor Who to return, bloody olympics pushed in-front & forced a delay on airing

[Murray]

I wish they'd just hurry up & finish anyways. I'm waiting on good programming like Doctor Who to return,

Yeah and more cooking programmes and reality shows too

[Scuba_Steve]

I dunno if the living room is a plasma, or LCD (definitely have two CRT elsewhere though) but I've fired them a message. I dislike those programing watermarks.


If it is red hot it is a plasma.



:no: that's not a good test at all, newer plasma's don't run as hot & older or cheaper LCD's can be just as hot.
No, instead a much simpler & easier test just pick up your remote control & throw it at the screen... if it bounces off your've got a plasma, if it embeds your've got an LCD & you need a new one, see simple easy :lol:

[Maki]

I would think you'd find it's a requirement to broadcast those rings if you're broadcasting the olympics... It's a brand & like all brands it must be advertised! The rings have always been broadcasted.
My suggestion would be stop watching the olympics, I wish they'd just hurry up & finish anyways. I'm waiting on good programming like Doctor Who to return, bloody olympics pushed in-front & forced a delay on airing

I'm sure it is a requirement. What I am not so sure about is if the white and brightness of those things is required to be pumped up to the max.

[oneofsix]

:no: that's not a good test at all, newer plasma's don't run as hot & older or cheaper LCD's can be just as hot.
No, instead a much simpler & easier test just pick up your remote control & throw it at the screen... if it bounces off your've got a plasma, if it embeds your've got an LCD & you need a new one, see simple easy :lol:

Bugger missed. Does the remote embedded in the wall make it an LCD? :killingme

Oh well the screen is plastic so I guess its not a plasma. :banana:

[nodrog]

http://fcepalm.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/i-got-99-problems-but-91-of-them-are-gone.jpg?w=552

[HenryDorsetCase]

I would think you'd find it's a requirement to broadcast those rings if you're broadcasting the olympics... It's a brand & like all brands it must be advertised! The rings have always been broadcasted.
My suggestion would be stop watching the olympics, I wish they'd just hurry up & finish anyways. I'm waiting on good programming like Doctor Who to return, bloody olympics pushed in-front & forced a delay on airing

the interesting thing I noticed yesterday was that TV2 have surrendered. They had scheduled 2 1/2 hours of "prime time" last night for reruns of the least funny show ever made: Two and a half men.

If that isnt throwing in the towel, what is?

I am down to 1 hour of broadcast TV or so a day, and better for it.

and so is Mastercard, and courier and post companies, and Britains economy:

www.bookdepository.co.uk takes a fair bit of my money these days.

[HenryDorsetCase]

a picture of Breivik with witty caption


In case you were wondering, yep, too soon.

[nodrog]

In case you were wondering, yep, too soon.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24667416.jpg

[Road kill]

Take a look outside.
Yeah that's life you see.
Go get you some<_<

[Akzle]

"Olympic rings burned into your plasma TV"

first world problems.

[MIXONE]

I disagree, I quite enjoyed watching the mens diving :blip:

Must be my mind but I read that as "muff diving":cool:

[Madness]

So you have a TV that holds images that stay on them for a period of time. :wacko:

Guess that makes watching porn a problem.......

Only if necrophilia is your thing.

[neels]

Must be my mind but I read that as "muff diving":cool:
I didn't know that was an olympic event, I bet there's no problems with ticket sales.

[MIXONE]

I didn't know that was an olympic event, I bet there's no problems with ticket sales.

Or participants.

[tbs]

My wife phoned me at work late this afternoon to tell me our 4 year old had ended up underneath the smashed screen of our new plasma TV. Must have been trying to climb up it. :argh::nono::weep:

[Bald Eagle]

My wife phoned me at work late this afternoon to tell me our 4 year old had ended up underneath the smashed screen of our new plasma TV. Must have been trying to climb up it. :argh::nono::weep:

Geeze gunna take ages to replace that on a 4 year olds allowance, send him out to work quick.

[HenryDorsetCase]

My wife phoned me at work late this afternoon to tell me our 4 year old had ended up underneath the smashed screen of our new plasma TV. Must have been trying to climb up it. :argh::nono::weep:

He's OK though? there was a little kid killed in one of the earthquakes when a tv fell on him :( totally not cool.

[Berries]

My wife phoned me at work late this afternoon to tell me our 4 year old had ended up underneath the smashed screen of our new plasma TV. Must have been trying to climb up it. :argh::nono::weep:
If he has burned his ring in to it give Prime a call.

[Maki]

My wife phoned me at work late this afternoon to tell me our 4 year old had ended up underneath the smashed screen of our new plasma TV. Must have been trying to climb up it. :argh::nono::weep:

Don't Panic! Having the rings is not the end of the world, they should fade in time. If your TV has them, by all means call Prime to complain but there is no need to turn this into an insurance claim....

Lord of The Rings.

[tbs]

He's OK though? there was a little kid killed in one of the earthquakes when a tv fell on him :( totally not cool.

yep.
It would take something a LOT heavier than a TV to put a dent in my boy.

[Maki]

So, has anyone had this issue and actually bothered to call Prime/Sky? If you have, please let us know how Prime/Sky took care of you.

Permanently ringed

[onearmedbandit]

LED LCD here, totally mint.

[Maki]

I never intended to get into the Plasma vs LCD vs LCD LED debate and I won't. In the end it comes down to your personal taste, but this is what some experts say:

http://asia.cnet.com/led-vs-plasma-vs-lcd-tvs-62213538.htm

Light output (brightness)
Winner: LED TVs
Loser: Plasma TVs
Runner-Up: LCD TVs

Black level
Winner: Plasma TVs
Loser: LCD TVs
Runner-up: LED TVs

Contrast ratio
Winner: Plasma TVs
Loser: LCD TVs
Runner-up: LED TVs

Viewing angle
Winner: Plasma TVs
Losers: LCD and LED TVs
Runners-up: IPS-based LCD and LED TVs (see text)

Energy consumption
Winner: LED TVs
Loser: Plasma TVs
Runner-up: LCD TVs

Price
Winner: CCFL TVs
Loser: LED TVs
Runner-up: Plasma TVs

Lifespan
Tie

Burn-in
Tie

Uniformity
Winner: Plasma TVs
Losers: LCD and LED TVs

Conclusion?

"If you watch a lot of TV during the day, or have a room with lots of windows, an LED TV is probably best. If you watch at night, and want the TV to disappear into the background, plasma is probably best. "

[nzspokes]

I think people spend far to much time in front of the TV. Rather be having a life.

Thats why my 20" CRT is mint. $20 off TM. :lol:

[huff3r]

I think people spend far to much time in front of the TV. Rather be having a life.

Thats why my 20" CRT is mint. $20 off TM. :lol:

You got ripped off. We couldn't even give our 27" CRT away.

[The Lone Rider]

So, has anyone had this issue and actually bothered to call Prime/Sky? If you have, please let us know how Prime/Sky took care of you.

Permanently ringed

"Thank you for your email.

we have registered and forwarded your feedback to the appropriate department. We once again thank you for taking the time to email us with your feedback.

Please feel free to contact SKY Television Customer Services on 0800 759 759 for further information, alternatively please respond via return email and we will endeavour to reply within 24 hours.

With kind regards,

SKY Online Support Team"



P.S. - anyone with a giant CRT tv that they dont want, I'll take it off your hands.

[onearmedbandit]

I never intended to get into the Plasma vs LCD vs LCD LED debate and I won't. In the end it comes down to your personal taste, but this is what some experts say:



Ok I never realised fishing was so much fun. BTW I worked in the industry for two years.

[avgas]

"Olympic rings burned into your plasma TV"

first world problems.
Change "TV" to "KFC" and you got 3rd world.

Not sure how to change the channel to 2nd world. But suspect it has something to do with middle earth.

[avgas]

http://cf3.thingd.com/default/257032099_a0418b1b2f38.jpg

This lady also got her ring burned by prime, just after this photo was taken.

Frankly I don't know how you can sit down, let alone tell us about it. That bad boy looks like he could have split you in 2

[Scuba_Steve]

Hey when did the rings lose their colour??? Saw the olympics yesterday & the rings were white :blink: How longs this been going on for???

[Maki]

Hey when did the rings lose their colour??? Saw the olympics yesterday & the rings were white :blink: How longs this been going on for???

Sky/Prime only knows. Maybe they are doing this for the benefit of those who still have a black and white CRT TV. Got to keep those black and white folks happy.

[Madness]

Sky/Prime only knows. Maybe they are doing this for the benefit of those who still have a black and white CRT TV. Got to keep nzspokes happy.

Fixed it for ya.

[pzkpfw]

P.S. - anyone with a giant CRT tv that they dont want, I'll take it off your hands.

You: (a) Serious? (b) Anywhere near Wellington?

[The Lone Rider]

Yeah I''ll take a CRT depending on size.

But I'm in the south island.

[pzkpfw]

Yeah I''ll take a CRT depending on size.

But I'm in the south island.

Ah.

Got a 32" (it was "big" at the time) flat/widescreen CRT. Paid $2,500 for it, pretty much top of the line at the time (LCD's were still $5,000 or so then).

It does progressive scan and all that. A couple of digital view modes (100Hz scan and Pixel plus). Fantastic sound.

Basically worth nothing, but so good I can't bear the thought of dumping it (even after having gotten over the "but I paid $2,500!!!" stage).

I can only just carry it around the house by myself, so definitely wouldn't be worth sending anywhere.

I'd maybe drop-off to a (local) KB member...

[The Lone Rider]

Ah.

Got a 32" (it was "big" at the time) flat/widescreen CRT. Paid $2,500 for it, pretty much top of the line at the time (LCD's were still $5,000 or so then).

It does progressive scan and all that. A couple of digital view modes (100Hz scan and Pixel plus). Fantastic sound.

Basically worth nothing, but so good I can't bear the thought of dumping it (even after having gotten over the "but I paid $2,500!!!" stage).

I can only just carry it around the house by myself, so definitely wouldn't be worth sending anywhere.

I'd maybe drop-off to a (local) KB member...

Fastpost might have a rate that is reasonable. Let me look into it. Could use my two LCDs as computer screens then lol.

[Spuds1234]

Yeah I''ll take a CRT depending on size.

But I'm in the south island.

Pickup in christchurch, has remote, not sure what size it is as its been in the garage for ages. Will measure it up when I get home and check it works if you want.

[The Lone Rider]

Pickup in christchurch, has remote, not sure what size it is as its been in the garage for ages. Will measure it up when I get home and check it works if you want.

Cheers man; maybe I'll have a little collection going :P

[onearmedbandit]

Cheers man; maybe I'll have a little collection going :P

Got a 29" here that we're about to throw out.

[Maki]

What's all this??? I reluctantly sold my 28 inch "Toshiba Bomba" CRT TV for $55 a year ago and people are talking about throwing them out?!? What is the world coming to?

[onearmedbandit]

What's all this??? I reluctantly sold my 28 inch "Toshiba Bomba" CRT TV for $55 a year ago and people are talking about throwing them out?!? What is the world coming to?

I know! Give it a year though and they'll be throwing out their plasma's too.

[pzkpfw]

(I do think this is an example of why we're "using up" this Planet. It's so much cheaper to buy new than fix old, for so many things, we just keep making and making stuff. Did I really need a new 55" Plasma (around two years ago) to replace that 32" CRT? Not really. But I wanted to. So some factory had to make that new Plasma, and the old CRT will get dumped/semi-recycled. Can that really keep going on and on?)

[The Lone Rider]

If I'm gonna pilfer the local community of their old CRT; knowing the screen size & depth of the unit would be handy. Depth would greatly effect what I may use it for.

Biggest tv I have here is a 25" LCD I was given.

Then I got a 20" CRT in my bedroom and a 17" CRT in the workshop.


If there's a big demand to get rid of them, I'm happy to collect them up and offer them to locals who had their houses destroyed or similar. You would hope any sensible person would have a tv as low priority for purchasing, so a free CRT would probably be a grateful donation.

[Maki]

I know! Give it a year though and they'll be throwing out their plasma's too.

OLED is here in a year?

[The Lone Rider]

You fellas still wanting to ditch your TVs?

[Spuds1234]

Sorry, I've been a bit slack.

Its a 20 inch screen, pickup from the casino end of Salisbury St. Appears to go, but I couldn't be bothered to tune it so all it displayed was static.

[Maki]

Now that the rings are burned into my display, does it's value increase? Do I have to apply for a permit from the Olympic committee to operate the unit? I have covered the screen until further notice to avoid any copyright infringement. In case I am asked to pay royalties for displaying the rings, should the committee charge me or Sky/Prime?

Owner of an Olympic TV.

[onearmedbandit]

You fellas still wanting to ditch your TVs?

Yup, will chuck a measuring tape over it tonight. We're in Sydenham.

[Maki]

The rings have now disappeared and I am happy again. Just out of curiosity, if you have an LED LCD panel, do you have problems with clouding and back light bleed or have those issues been solved?

This is what I am talking about:

"Am I just being overly picky. I went from the c650 lcd samsung which had major clouding and flashlights into the d6500 led unit which samsung did a replacement for me for a fee outside of warranty and this thing is ridiculed with clouding..

Allthough the picture is amazing and the smart hub rocks. Im getting annoyed with taking off work for a tech to come and replace the panel and every time its the same exact crappy look? What do you think I can do, bite the bullet on time and just keep getting it replaced or am I overly picky. Ill post pics later if need be but its about as bad as it can get.

Wondering if anyone else just has had bad luck...guess this was a big ol vent!"

http://www.hometheaterequipment.com/led-lcd-39/cant-seem-get-samsun-unit-without-issues-1625/

[Maki]

Seems like they listened. For the Rio Olympics the rings were gray instead of a blazing white. I still have my plasma and still love it. Might replace it with OLED one day, once they have price and reliability issues sorted.

[awa355]

Sorry, this thread beats yours.

"VTNZ are a pack of Wankers". :weep::weep: