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The End
25th August 2012, 13:51
Apple are at it again

http://www.infowars.com/apple-granted-patent-to-disable-cameras-according-to-location/


Apple was granted a patent last week that will enable it to wirelessly disable the camera on iphones in certain locations, sparking fears that such techniques could be used to prevent citizens from communicating with each other or taking video during protests or events such as political conventions and gatherings.




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http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/7547438/Apple-awarded-1-051b-damages-in-Samsung-trial

So not only do they employ people who work 16 hour shifts [1], make them work in unsafe conditions [2], but they feel the need to go after any company who is a threat to them. The list could go on and on.

Fuck apple.

[1] http://oudaily.com/news/2012/mar/13/pointcounterpoint-apples-partnership-foxconn-uneth/
[2] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/apple-admits-it-has-a-human-rights-problem-6898617.html



Discuss.

Zamiam
25th August 2012, 14:17
Yeah f*#k apple

Posted via iPad 2

SMOKEU
25th August 2012, 14:20
Fuck you Apple!

Wiki Drifter
25th August 2012, 14:37
Fuck you Persimmon! WTF are you any way? You have no Wi-Fi and don't taste very nice

Bald Eagle
25th August 2012, 14:37
They learnt from Ma$terGates

Scuba_Steve
25th August 2012, 14:57
:tugger: Sounds like ignorant fanboi rant to me

A company defending IP rights??? Who ever heard of such a thing! especially when the opposition has such a blatant copy (until Galaxy III)
And as for Apple using the same company that probably made your machine & countless others world wide, yes fuck Apple & Apple alone for the shit working conditions at a company almost all electronic goods makers use

Drew
25th August 2012, 15:07
So, it's the Apple companies fault, that other companies have copied their software?

I'm confused.

Wasn't windows mostly designed at Apple, then stolen by a couple guys working for gates? I somehow think they have a pretty good reason to take legal action for software theft of any sort.

But I'm no geek, you cunts carry on about consumer rights and how corporations should take just wear the crime.

Maki
25th August 2012, 15:07
Apple is out to make money like everyone else in the business. I have never felt the slightest inclination to buy any Apple product and I doubt I ever will. I find cheaper and more flexible products elsewhere.

SMOKEU
25th August 2012, 15:12
How are Samsung phones a copy of Apple phones? It's like saying that a CBR is a copy of a GSXR just because they both have fairings and the wheels are the same size.

Drew
25th August 2012, 15:21
How are Samsung phones a copy of Apple phones? It's like saying that a CBR is a copy of a GSXR just because they both have fairings and the wheels are the same size.

I read that it was a software copy, not hardware. You don't think that shit loads of that stuff is the same? I'm a technophobe and I can see they drive the same a lot of the time.

Berries
25th August 2012, 15:33
Yeah f*#k apple
What he said.


Posted on my imac.

Laava
25th August 2012, 15:43
Fapple:tugger:

SMOKEU
25th August 2012, 15:43
I read that it was a software copy, not hardware. You don't think that shit loads of that stuff is the same? I'm a technophobe and I can see they drive the same a lot of the time.

iOS and Android are so different that it's hardly worth making the comparison. The hardware is vastly different, too. Even though they're both based on *nix, the kernels are not the same, so they're a lot different from one another. Android is based on GPL whereas iOS uses a proprietary closed source platform.

Scuba_Steve
25th August 2012, 15:49
How are Samsung phones a copy of Apple phones? It's like saying that a CBR is a copy of a GSXR just because they both have fairings and the wheels are the same size.

ummm...

Apple scored a sweeping legal victory over Samsung on Friday as a US jury found the Korean company had copied critical features of the hugely popular iPhone and iPad and awarded the US company $1.05 billion (NZ$1.295 billion) in damages.

The jury deliberated for less than three days before delivering the verdict on seven Apple patent claims and five Samsung patent claims - suggesting that the nine-person panel had little difficulty in concluding that Samsung had copied the iPhone and the iPad.

Because the panel found "willful" infringement, Apple could seek triple damages.

Drew
25th August 2012, 15:52
iOS and Android are so different that it's hardly worth making the comparison. The hardware is vastly different, too. Even though they're both based on *nix, the kernels are not the same, so they're a lot different from one another. Android is based on GPL whereas iOS uses a proprietary closed source platform.

That is completely over my head. There are enough similarities however to convince a jury, who have heard all the evidence, and since that is the system in which these things must be proven, I will accept it, over your word.

Unless you took part in the design of the software for one or more that is?

Scuba_Steve
25th August 2012, 15:54
Fear not Samsung/Android fanbois & Apple haters. Samsung (as expected) will be appealing

Update: As expected, Samsung has indicated it will appeal the ruling. Wall Street Journal's Evan Ramstad tweets that it plans to file post-verdict motions to overturn the decision and if those are unsuccessful, it will take its case to the Appeals Court.

Drew
25th August 2012, 15:56
Hardly surprising.

SMOKEU
25th August 2012, 16:12
That is completely over my head. There are enough similarities however to convince a jury, who have heard all the evidence, and since that is the system in which these things must be proven, I will accept it, over your word.

Unless you took part in the design of the software for one or more that is?

The jury were probably a bunch of fucking n00bs. The GUI of an OS does not determine what the OS actually is, that's the job of the kernel. For example, some distros of Linux use a shell that appears similar to OSX, whereas others aim for a more Windows feel. This doesn't mean that the OS is actually an OSX or Windows clone, it's just the GUI. The UI of iOS and Android are very different, and one would have to be an idiot to not know the difference, unless the version of Android was deliberately designed to look like that of iOS.

The typical cager doesn't know the difference between a GSXR1000, R1, CBR1000RR or ZX10R either. They just think of them as "racey type looking bikes". Does that mean those bikes are all copied off each other? Maybe Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha and Kawasaki should start suing each other for making the same product. But they're not actually the same, are they?

It's the same as the software piracy laws. Dumbasses with no idea how a computer works are making laws based on some bullshit they heard from yet another idiot.

nosebleed
25th August 2012, 16:23
Fapple

oooooh I fuckin like that!

Thats going on my email siggy that is.



Posted from my iPhone.
Fapple, fapple, fapple

The End
25th August 2012, 16:29
iOS and Android are so different that it's hardly worth making the comparison. The hardware is vastly different, too. Even though they're both based on *nix, the kernels are not the same, so they're a lot different from one another. Android is based on GPL whereas iOS uses a proprietary closed source platform.

I wonder how many of the jury owned Apple products or were some how influenced by Apple's extensive PR campaign during the trial...

Funny how Apple uses a lot of Samsung's components in the iPhones.

Imagine if the two worked together, we would have technology in our hands that puts what we have now to shame. :facepalm:

SMOKEU
25th August 2012, 16:51
I wonder how many of the jury owned Apple products or were some how influenced by Apple's extensive PR campaign during the trial...

Funny how Apple uses a lot of Samsung's components in the iPhones.

Imagine if the two worked together, we would have technology in our hands that puts what we have now to shame. :facepalm:

No we wouldn't. Apple isn't interested in anything but making money. The don't want to know about open source. All they want is their own proprietary bullshit and to force users into paying for their overpriced crap. Android is good because it's an open source platform.

Gremlin
25th August 2012, 17:07
Let's not forget that all the major companies are currently suing each other (sometimes more than once). They are also careful, as they continue to supply each other components.

For the most part, it's a game to keep the competitors product out of a market so the other can capture a larger share (which is worth more than damages - esp when you factor in the cost of lawyers). Samsung and the Galaxy S III is a prime target as it's exceeding all expectations for units delivered (actually my boss and I have just got them a month or so ago for testing).

merv
25th August 2012, 17:09
Here's the Korean court case info http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/7543325/Court-bans-some-Apple-Samsung-products

Slightly different result to the US one, but then they wouldn't have had a bunch of jurors from San Jose from just down the road from Apple HQ.

awa355
25th August 2012, 17:33
IT technology is probably no different from any other product. Most anything that comes out of Asia has been based on an earlier development from the west, apart from buck teeth and round faces. <_<

mashman
25th August 2012, 17:38
Fuck Oranges

hayd3n
25th August 2012, 18:13
FAPPLE:bye:

onearmedbandit
25th August 2012, 18:22
Goooooo Aaaapple!!!!

Drew
25th August 2012, 18:24
I suppose it is nearly impossible to get a fair trial, until the jury is made up of people who understand puters.


I still reckon they are very similar in appearance, and since I'm the common layman they are trying to sell shit to, I still think they have a case.

Drew
25th August 2012, 18:25
All that said, fuck grapes!

mashman
25th August 2012, 18:27
I still reckon they are very similar in appearance, and since I'm the common layman they are trying to sell shit to, I still think they have a case.

does that mean motorcycle manufacturers could be sued by bicycle manufacturers? After all, they're essentially the same design and perform the same function.


All that said, fuck grapes!

leave the grapes the fuck alone.

Drew
25th August 2012, 18:37
does that mean motorcycle manufacturers could be sued by bicycle manufacturers? After all, they're essentially the same design and perform the same function. No, because the market they are aimed at, know the obvious fundamental difference. Same with bike brands, the market they are aimed at, know the differences.





leave the grapes the fuck alone.Wanna fight about it?

Bonez
25th August 2012, 18:49
Obviously just a case of sour grapes and rotten apples.


Posted on my Olivette PCS 40, PC Dos 5.04 and PC/Geos....:innocent:

Usarka
25th August 2012, 18:52
Fapple:tugger:

http://static.gnuj.pl/0_0_261500063_Fapple_przez_barti1989_middle.jpg

mashman
25th August 2012, 18:58
No, because the market they are aimed at, know the obvious fundamental difference. Same with bike brands, the market they are aimed at, know the differences.

They're still similar in appearance though and they're still aimed at a similar market. There are off road and on road versions. The ifuck and spunksung tablets are also marketed to those who know the fundamental differences, so I don't see that there is a case to answer at all.



Wanna fight about it?

go on then, pm me your address... ya fuckin racist.

merv
25th August 2012, 19:20
All that said, fuck grapes!

Are you talking about Bill Grapes from Micrococksoft?

AllanB
25th August 2012, 19:28
Wish I had purchased some Apple shares years ago - they are stupidly high at the moment with the I-phone 5 release coming up.


Darn shame all their shit is overpriced. F-U overpriced Apple.

Suntoucher
25th August 2012, 19:43
Pretty much, South Korea had the right idea when it came to this suit. Both manufacturer's have a stack of their products banned until the issues are resolved.

Sucks to be a US consumer, Apple lost in every other market.

James Deuce
25th August 2012, 19:43
I won an iPad 2. It's cool. Makes my 1 hour 20 minute train ride thoroughly bearable. Games, Music, TV Shows, Podcasts, actual work for goodness sake - It's just like the tablet Jean-Luc Picard had on the Enterpris in STNG.

It's soooo cool.

Sorry, what was the issue again?

AllanB
25th August 2012, 19:51
I won an iPad 2. It's cool. Makes my 1 hour 20 minute train ride thoroughly bearable. Games, Music, TV Shows, Podcasts, actual work for goodness sake - It's just like the tablet Jean-Luc Picard had on the Enterpris in STNG.

It's soooo cool.

Sorry, what was the issue again?

They are cool. No doubt at all. But would you pay over $700 for it!

James Deuce
25th August 2012, 19:54
I don't understand the question, because I won an iPad 2.

onearmedbandit
25th August 2012, 20:01
iPaid over $1000 for mine, 64gb goodness. iHated typing on it but then iGot a bluetooth KB for it, Apple naturally, and iT's awesome now. Got the 4s as well, iLove that as well. Do iGive a damn over who makes a better/cheaper/smarter product. Nah, they run seamlessly with our system at work. And the added bonus is iGet to watch Andriod fanboi's go crazy when iTell them how great Apple are.

Like iCould give an iFuck.

AllanB
25th August 2012, 20:09
I don't understand the question, because I won an iPad 2.

Having experienced the joy of running your fingers over a free pad, if I stole it off you (and you had no insurance) would you go out and spend $700 - $1,000 on a new pad?

Big Dave
25th August 2012, 20:13
Like iCould give an iFuck.

Aye. But careful. Adverse KB posts might have an effect on the share price......or not.

Big Dave
25th August 2012, 20:17
Would you go out and spend $700 - $1,000 on a new pad?

Yes. My favourite gadget. I'd just get a wifi only one again though, only $500-ish over here.
I have a wifi hot spot for travelling.

James Deuce
25th August 2012, 20:25
Having experienced the joy of running your fingers over a free pad, if I stole it off you (and you had no insurance) would you go out and spend $700 - $1,000 on a new pad?
Yes. Couldn't live without it now, and having experienced the "joy" of trying to extract similar seamless BYOD performance at work out of other people's Android and Samsung products, I think the small premium is worth it.

GrayWolf
25th August 2012, 20:49
So, it's the Apple companies fault, that other companies have copied their software?

I'm confused.

Wasn't windows mostly designed at Apple, then stolen by a couple guys working for gates? I somehow think they have a pretty good reason to take legal action for software theft of any sort.

But I'm no geek, you cunts carry on about consumer rights and how corporations should take just wear the crime.

yeh just like that was 'copied' off Xerox and IBM. The only thing theydidnt to was get 'hooked' up with the PC manufactureres like Bill did, funny thing I watched a doco on the founder of apple, and he was close friends with Bill Gates at the start...all a bit incestuous really,

mashman
25th August 2012, 20:59
yeh just like that was 'copied' off Xerox and IBM. The only thing theydidnt to was get 'hooked' up with the PC manufactureres like Bill did, funny thing I watched a doco on the founder of apple, and he was close friends with Bill Gates at the start...all a bit incestuous really,

I saw something similar a week or so ago and I didn't know (DISCLAIMER: iPiss fannys might not want to read this next part,as when the crowd at Apple found out they were a might tad stunned)... when Jobs went back to Apple for his second shot, when Apple was in trouble, t'was Gates that funded Jobs when he produced the original immac.

Berries
25th August 2012, 21:11
The GUI of an OS does not determine what the OS actually is, that's the job of the kernel. For example, some distros of Linux use a shell that appears similar to OSX, whereas others aim for a more Windows feel. This doesn't mean that the OS is actually an OSX or Windows clone, it's just the GUI. The UI of iOS and Android ...........
I had a DUI once. Thought I'd cloned my kernel on the window.

Kendog
25th August 2012, 23:28
No we wouldn't. Apple isn't interested in anything but making money. The don't want to know about open source. All they want is their own proprietary bullshit and to force users into paying for their overpriced crap. Android is good because it's an open source platform.
Thank fuck that's how they think.
I would hate to save a little bit of money but have to use products that don't do everything I need perfectly and effortlessly.

ducatilover
26th August 2012, 00:07
Wanna fight about it?




leave the grapes the fuck alone.

Why don't you start a thread about it?


On a related note, I was going to buy tomatoes today, but they were much to expensive. I do not care for the high prices at all.

GrayWolf
26th August 2012, 00:07
I saw something similar a week or so ago and I didn't know (DISCLAIMER: iPiss fannys might not want to read this next part,as when the crowd at Apple found out they were a might tad stunned)... when Jobs went back to Apple for his second shot, when Apple was in trouble, t'was Gates that funded Jobs when he produced the original immac.

Yup was the same Doco'... scary how they were all 'intergrated' back then,,, all B gates did was take the GUi and with some modifying, gave us Windows for workgroups then simply 'sold' it to IBM and other PC manufacturers... so in the end WHO really owns these GUi's and software?

mashman
26th August 2012, 00:36
Yup was the same Doco'... scary how they were all 'intergrated' back then,,, all B gates did was take the GUi and with some modifying, gave us Windows for workgroups then simply 'sold' it to IBM and other PC manufacturers... so in the end WHO really owns these GUi's and software?

I guess geeks attracted geeks back then :shifty:. From what I remember Billy boy dumped OS2 and went the way of the windows... didn't know there was any selling involved, but I missed the first half of the doco. Shame as it looked quite interesting with the Disney shennanigans and vision he showed. Heh, good question. The down side is that if I write any software, whoever I'm working for at the time has rights to take if off me. So I build my own tools in between jobs... less and less these days.

mashman
26th August 2012, 00:39
Why don't you start a thread about it?


On a related note, I was going to buy tomatoes today, but they were much to expensive. I do not care for the high prices at all.

Settle petal... didn't realise I was treadin on anyones toes

Grow yer own.

ducatilover
26th August 2012, 00:45
Settle petal... didn't realise I was treadin on anyones toes

Grow yer own.

I ate them all sadly.
:angry:
Gowwwaaaaan make a thread... ye big Jessie

Fast Eddie
26th August 2012, 01:09
On a related note, I was going to buy tomatoes today, but they were much to expensive. I do not care for the high prices at all.

try getting avocados down here bro, more expensive than a litre of fuel per avo. i buy them up large when i visit bay of plenty

ducatilover
26th August 2012, 01:13
try getting avocados down here bro, more expensive than a litre of fuel per avo. i buy them up large when i visit bay of plenty

I was in the BOP a few weeks ago and thought I'd buy me a huge lot and go avo mad, but they were $3 each... wtf!

Fuck Avocado prices!

Apples are cheap though, very nice too.

Fast Eddie
26th August 2012, 01:38
I was in the BOP a few weeks ago and thought I'd buy me a huge lot and go avo mad, but they were $3 each... wtf!

Fuck Avocado prices!

Apples are cheap though, very nice too.

3 bucks each?? must hav been havin a laugh usually u get ten fr 3 buck

i shud b up there over xmas and new years. tga and aucks

ducatilover
26th August 2012, 01:56
3 bucks each?? must hav been havin a laugh usually u get ten fr 3 buck

i shud b up there over xmas and new years. tga and aucks

Maybe we don't want you up here, you sound like an Apple supporter and we do not care for those types.

Unless you have sheep.

James Deuce
26th August 2012, 07:13
IBM and Xerox got everything they deserved. IBM set up a team to create the AT and XT PCs and then simply couldn't think of any application for it and disbanded the engineering team who created it and fed them into other projects. The pairing of a CPU and a math co-processor was a little bit of genius that went unremarked upon by IBM's management.

Xerox again, had no concept of what could be achieved with a mouse and a point and click GUI and dismissed that project as a dead-end. There are plenty of incidences of IP theft that are far more heinous than the Apple/Microsoft example, Edison's brutal personal handling of Tesla for instance.

jasonu
26th August 2012, 08:02
The jury were probably a bunch of fucking n00bs. The GUI of an OS does not determine what the OS actually is, that's the job of the kernel. For example, some distros of Linux use a shell that appears similar to OSX, whereas others aim for a more Windows feel. This doesn't mean that the OS is actually an OSX or Windows clone, it's just the GUI. The UI of iOS and Android are very different, and one would have to be an idiot to not know the difference, unless the version of Android was deliberately designed to look like that of iOS.

The typical cager doesn't know the difference between a GSXR1000, R1, CBR1000RR or ZX10R either. They just think of them as "racey type looking bikes". Does that mean those bikes are all copied off each other? Maybe Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha and Kawasaki should start suing each other for making the same product. But they're not actually the same, are they?

It's the same as the software piracy laws. Dumbasses with no idea how a computer works are making laws based on some bullshit they heard from yet another idiot.

Why didn't Samsung call you for expert testomony? They would have won for sure if they did.

GrayWolf
26th August 2012, 09:25
I guess geeks attracted geeks back then :shifty:. From what I remember Billy boy dumped OS2 and went the way of the windows... didn't know there was any selling involved, but I missed the first half of the doco. Shame as it looked quite interesting with the Disney shennanigans and vision he showed. Heh, good question. The down side is that if I write any software, whoever I'm working for at the time has rights to take if off me. So I build my own tools in between jobs... less and less these days.

Sorry different 'use' of language, 'selling' as in selling a concept to someone, BG if you like was in the right place, at the right time, withDOS/Windows 3.11 to 'sell' the idea to be bundled with new computers.. the rest is history.

James Deuce
26th August 2012, 10:08
IBM prevented Microsoft from marketing OS/2 in a bizarre series of threatened legal actions that didn't go anywhere, but left a sour taste for a lot of people involved. Far from stealing OS/2 Bill wanted to market it concurrently with IBM and look at developing a Hardware/OS link. IBM senior management fair shit themselves at the thought of developing the small-office file server line into something bigger than their Mainframe and Mini business. Much like they did with the AT/XT PC line, they actively sabotaged the OS/2 tie-up with Microsoft.

It was a tragedy at the time as OS/2 was vastly superior to anything else out there. Server 2008 is almost there but the file permissions model is as flawed as every Microsoft server product has ever been.

Usarka
26th August 2012, 11:08
On a related note, I was going to buy tomatoes today, but they were much to expensive. I do not care for the high prices at all.

They aint in season, of course they expensive.

http://www.healthyfood.co.nz/sites/default/files/Whats-in-season-c-0306_0.pdf

Apples are in season all year round.

ducatilover
26th August 2012, 13:42
They aint in season, of course they expensive.

http://www.healthyfood.co.nz/sites/default/files/Whats-in-season-c-0306_0.pdf

Apples are in season all year round.

I don't understand, this is an informative post on KB?

I just wanted to bitch about tomato prices, then you went and got logical and burst my bubble.

Swoop
26th August 2012, 19:37
I would hate to save a little bit of money but have to use products that don't do everything I need perfectly and effortlessly.
You are definately not describing apple products then. Mine are sworn at regularly for deleting things it decides I do not desire.

Fuck apple and may steve jobbies fester.

Thank fuck for other alternatives to the iDiotic iNbred shit they pump out.

SMOKEU
26th August 2012, 20:16
If you absolutely must have a *nix OS as your host then you might as well run your favourite flavour of Linux. Why pay 3 times as much for a similar performing system?

mashman
26th August 2012, 20:21
If you absolutely must have a *nix OS as your host then you might as well run your favourite flavour of Linux. Why pay 3 times as much for a similar performing system?

2 words, 4 syllables... brainwashed fanboys

onearmedbandit
26th August 2012, 20:54
PS3 vs Xbox
Mac vs PC
Iphone vs Android
Afterlife vs Nothingness

It never fails to crack me up how people feel the need to try to convert others to 'their' way because of such and such reason that they believe everyone must know about and if they don't agree they are 'brainwashed' and ignorant.

Give it up guys, people are different, their needs are different, their wants and desires are different. And thank fuck for that. Be a boring old place if we only had one choice in everything.

mashman
26th August 2012, 20:58
PS3 vs Xbox
Mac vs PC
Iphone vs Android
Afterlife vs Nothingness

It never fails to crack me up how people feel the need to try to convert others to 'their' way because of such and such reason that they believe everyone must know about and if they don't agree they are 'brainwashed' and ignorant.

Give it up guys, people are different, their needs are different, their wants and desires are different. And thank fuck for that. Be a boring old place if we only had one choice in everything.

Brand loyalty or choice? Brainwashed.

ducatilover
26th August 2012, 21:12
Give it up guys, people are different, their needs are different, their wants and desires are different. And thank fuck for that. Be a boring old place if we only had one choice in everything.

What 'e sed.
If we were all the same we'd all be riding K5 Gixxer thous (leave them to me ya wankers)

gijoe1313
26th August 2012, 21:16
I think people need to find some good will, even if they have to hunt for it! "How'd you like 'em apples!?"

pete376403
26th August 2012, 22:14
I won an iPad 2. It's cool. Makes my 1 hour 20 minute train ride thoroughly bearable. Games, Music, TV Shows, Podcasts, actual work for goodness sake - It's just like the tablet Jean-Luc Picard had on the Enterpris in STNG.

It's soooo cool.

Sorry, what was the issue again?

Ther's a scene in "2001 Space Odyssey" where an IBM "Telepad" is used. This dates from 1968


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQkXSDKcslI

avgas
26th August 2012, 23:30
I guess geeks attracted geeks back then :shifty:. From what I remember Billy boy dumped OS2 and went the way of the windows... didn't know there was any selling involved, but I missed the first half of the doco. Shame as it looked quite interesting with the Disney shennanigans and vision he showed. Heh, good question. The down side is that if I write any software, whoever I'm working for at the time has rights to take if off me. So I build my own tools in between jobs... less and less these days.


Yup was the same Doco'... scary how they were all 'intergrated' back then,,, all B gates did was take the GUi and with some modifying, gave us Windows for workgroups then simply 'sold' it to IBM and other PC manufacturers... so in the end WHO really owns these GUi's and software?.......yeh just like that was 'copied' off Xerox and IBM. The only thing theydidnt to was get 'hooked' up with the PC manufactureres like Bill did, funny thing I watched a doco on the founder of apple, and he was close friends with Bill Gates at the start...all a bit incestuous really,


IBM and Xerox got everything they deserved. IBM set up a team to create the AT and XT PCs and then simply couldn't think of any application for it and disbanded the engineering team who created it and fed them into other projects. The pairing of a CPU and a math co-processor was a little bit of genius that went unremarked upon by IBM's management.

Xerox again, had no concept of what could be achieved with a mouse and a point and click GUI and dismissed that project as a dead-end. There are plenty of incidences of IP theft that are far more heinous than the Apple/Microsoft example, Edison's brutal personal handling of Tesla for instance.
I can probably fill in a few of the blanks here.
EVERYTHING ties back to 3 companies.
HP, IBM and Xerox. Apple, Microsoft.........I mean lets not forget that before it was called "Silicon Valley" it was - Palo Alto home base to "the big three".

Jobs/Gates/Woz - were all working together in building something impressive. After having worked for others and found it fucking boring and limiting. The Apple I was released, and while it was a pile of shit (wood case, hand soldiering etc).....it was a cheap pile of shit and came in well below what others were producing.
The ideas were stolen DIRECTLY from HP, IBM and Xerox.
But at the time the "big three" thought of Apple as a "cute little company". And besides they weren't using any of the stuff anyway. At the time HP, IBM and Xerox had literary 1000's of concepts being developed. Of which only about 2% made it to production. They had big fat government contracts to develop new things, not to mention company based sales.........and never really looked for a consumer market.

During the time with Apple in the early stages, Bill suddenly realized that his products that he was developing could be used for any personal computer platform. So he established "Microsoft" and patented his goodies, thus pissing off Apple. This was calmed by the fact that Bill giving free software with the newly developed Apple II.
After the Apple II was 6 months old, Bill sent a pricelist for new software to Steve...........who spat the dummy. Claimed he would not EVER buy Bills software.

Bill then created "Microsoft Windows", which basically ran a system that looked like what Bill was developing for Apple before Steve spat the dummy. IBM got OS2 purely because it was their IP to start with and they were going to screw Bill if he didn't do something for them.
So really they were screwing HP, Xerox and IBM well before they started screwing each other over.

Both Bill and Steve were very smart men who got very powerful at very young ages. It took them a while to grow up. In Apples case it took them a long time to actually make stuff that sells.
Xerox is the biggest loser out of the lot. Something like 1/3 of the worlds patents have 2 degrees of separation to Xerox....but they don't get a dime. Even NASA screwed Xerox and HP by stealing a big chunk of their engineers in the 50's/60's/70's.

Swoop
27th August 2012, 10:13
Ther's a scene in "2001 Space Odyssey" where an IBM "Telepad" is used. This dates from 1968

FFS don't tell apple, they will send their lawyers around and claim intellectual ownership of that system and sue the movie company for nicking their ideas.

avgas
27th August 2012, 11:48
FFS don't tell apple, they will send their lawyers around and claim intellectual ownership of that system and sue the movie company for nicking their ideas.
Samsung already tried that.
Samsung claimed that:
a) 2001 Oddessy
b) Startrek
c) Starwars
Were all inspirational to tablet design in the future.

It was all thrown out in court. Interestingly enough - Apple has NEVER sued Google, in an American court in regards to its Galaxy Nexus. So that just shows the level of BS Apple is dealing. This isn't IP - this is simply Apple trying to claim money out of Samsung the same way that Microsoft has out of anything that Apple or Android sell.

oneofsix
27th August 2012, 11:54
Samsung already tried that.
Samsung claimed that:
a) 2001 Oddessy
b) Startrek
c) Starwars
Were all inspirational to tablet design in the future.

It was all thrown out in court. Interestingly enough - Apple has NEVER sued Google, in an American court in regards to its Galaxy Nexus. So that just shows the level of BS Apple is dealing. This isn't IP - this is simply Apple trying to claim money out of Samsung the same way that Microsoft has out of anything that Apple or Android sell.

and USA courts protecting USA companies over those from other countries.

FFS the piece of paper and stone (...umm what did they call them, oh thats right) tablet were inspirational to the electronic tablet, its is just the next step/writing technology.

Hoon
27th August 2012, 16:00
They are cool. No doubt at all. But would you pay over $700 for it!

Mine cost about $1200. Awesome piece of kit. So awesome I need to buy another one due to too many fights in our house. All our next phones are going to be iphones to leverage off the investment in apps and integration/services apple provides. Couldn't care if it was made by Apple or Banana - it's a product that does a great job and well worth the money otherwise they wouldn't get mine.

CookMySock
28th August 2012, 11:23
So not only do they employ people who work 16 hour shifts [1], make them work in unsafe conditions [2], but they feel the need to go after any company who is a threat to them. The list could go on and on.Don't you ever play competitive sport?

Business is business, man. If any bastard gets in your way you cut them down. You swing any deal you can get - as long as it's in your favour. The quicker you get these ideals into your head, the easier your life will be.

The End
4th September 2012, 19:12
Apple are at it again

http://www.infowars.com/apple-granted-patent-to-disable-cameras-according-to-location/


Apple was granted a patent last week that will enable it to wirelessly disable the camera on iphones in certain locations, sparking fears that such techniques could be used to prevent citizens from communicating with each other or taking video during protests or events such as political conventions and gatherings.

Swoop
5th September 2012, 09:47
Go apple...:sick:

http://au.eonline.com/news/342984/bruce-willis-suing-apple-over-itunes-really?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

Bruce Willis really ticked off at Apple?
The U.K.'s Daily Mail reported that the 57-year-old tough guy is mulling legal action against the tech giant because he's unhappy that the terms and conditions of Apple's iTunes Store prevent him from bequeathing his extensive digital library to his children.

That's because, according to experts, the files purchased are really licenses giving users the right to download and listen to them, not actually own them.

The Die Hard star is said to have thousands of hours of music, including some of his own from his own late '80s pop-blues album The Return of Bruno that he hoped to pass down to Rumer, Scout and Tallulah.

But if you ask Willis' model wife, the whole story is just a bunch of pulp fiction.

When a Netizen took to Twitter and suggested to Emma Hemming-Willis that he could just give his kids his login and password to his iTunes account, she tweeted back, "It's not a true story."
While Bruce may not be going to war with Apple, the gossip at least will get folks paying attention to iTunes' complicated terms and conditions, which South Park famously lampooned a couple of seasons ago.

merv
5th September 2012, 17:17
Keep buying Samsung then people and turn the evil apple into apple pie.

Hoon
6th September 2012, 10:56
Buy Hyosung people and put an end to Japans domination of the sports bike market!

Drew
6th September 2012, 17:18
Buy Hyosung people and put an end to Japans domination of the sports bike market!Hyosung don't make a sports bike though!

ducatilover
6th September 2012, 21:33
Buy Hyosung people and put an end to Japans domination of the sports bike market!

;) Good one.

Skiwi
14th September 2012, 19:56
Yeah, fuck Apple




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