Dick Smith offering $1 million for an alternative economic model

[mashman]

Anyone under 30 wanna champion NOW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oarMXISAI8k&list=PL433FCCFD37571C43&feature=plcp)? :blip:

[Scuba_Steve]

you did read the date on that ay? (2010)

[mashman]

you did read the date on that ay? (2010)

and he still hasn't found what he's looking for (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1208/S00262/1million-wilberforce-award-is-there-a-kiwi-up-for-it.htm)... lord knows why <_<.

[Virago]

Still valid and active apparently. Dicky hasn't found a worthy recipient as yet.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Fucking cheapskate. $100k Pa salary for the next William Wilberforce pfffffffffffffffffffffft

[mashman]

Fucking cheapskate. $100k Pa salary for the next William Wilberforce pfffffffffffffffffffffft

I'd do it for 100k... but I'm just a tad over 30 :innocent:

[Virago]

I'd do it for 100k... but I'm just a tad over 30 :innocent:

Catch 22. Wouldn't your economic model involve the eschewing of tiresome and unnecessary money? :innocent:

[mashman]

Catch 22. Wouldn't your economic model involve the eschewing of tiresome and unnecessary money? :innocent:

:rofl:... until then, 100k will do. Could it be that many have failed as the economic model they've used has required money to function? Damn, someone just needs to pitch it and they could end up with $1 million.

[Virago]

:rofl:... until then, 100k will do. Could it be that many have failed as the economic model they've used has required money to function? Damn, someone just needs to pitch it and they could end up with $1 million.

Which they then don't actually need?

[mashman]

Which they then don't actually need?

Eventually, no... but it'll then go into the shared economy and we'll all benefit :wari:

[Virago]

Eventually, no... but it'll then go into the shared economy and we'll all benefit :wari:

Which points straight back at my first point - that they don't actually need it? Why would obtaining lots of money before abolishing it be so attractive?

The avaristic fanaticism of those promoting a cashless socialist society never really stands up to scrutiny, eh? :laugh:

[mashman]

Which points straight back at my first point - that they don't actually need it? Why would obtaining lots of money before abolishing it be so attractive?

The avaristic fanaticism of those promoting a cashless socialist society never really stands up to scrutiny, eh? :laugh:

As Dicky boy Smith says... living wage, marketing, advertising, travel expenses etc... all those things that aren't cheap and would be needed to reach the entire country.

Of course it does... :rofl:@socialistic, too many people can't grasp the simple concept without having to compare it to something else in order to back up their denial that these sorts of changes are possible :sunny:

[mashman]

The avaristic fanaticism of those promoting a cashless socialist society never really stands up to scrutiny, eh? :laugh:

On second reading, are you saying that those promoting a cashless society are hypocrites because they need lots of money to promote the cashless society?

[Virago]

On second reading, are you saying that those promoting a cashless society are hypocrites because they need lots of money to promote the cashless society?

Partly.

Your assertion that you need to lots money to prove that you don't need money, probably has merit - despite it's farcical nature. :laugh:

However, I have yet to be convinced that those seeking a redistribution of wealth into a cashless society aren't simply "have-nots", determined to get their hands on others' wealth - without working for it. As always, the hard questions about who gets to do the hard work afterwards, remain vaguely dismissed. An obsession with what others do with their wealth, and how to get some of it, remains at odds with the supposed goal.

[blackdog]

My head hurts now.

Fucking intellectuals.

[mashman]

Partly.

Your assertion that you need to lots money to prove that you don't need money, probably has merit - despite it's farcical nature. :laugh:

However, I have yet to be convinced that those seeking a redistribution of wealth into a cashless society aren't simply "have-nots", determined to get their hands on others' wealth - without working for it. As always, the hard questions about who gets to do the hard work afterwards, remain vaguely dismissed. An obsession with what others do with their wealth, and how to get some of it, remains at odds with the supposed goal.

Distrusting little soul ain't ya and I can see why it might look hypocritical, but hey, we live in a financial world and need money to do anything.

I'm not a have-not. I guess it's a state of mind in regards to who does the work. From my perspective it's do the work to benefit the inhabitants of the country, equity not equality. The funny thing is that is has absolutely nothing to do with the wealth of others, not really. Otherwise I'd be wankin on about some form of social credit system. Tis the issues that the financialless system solves for me. The overuse/misuse of limited resources in the pursuit of, erm, having stuff. Not that people won't be able to have stuff, but we certainly need to slow the cycle down and start looking at doing things in a different way. Hell it costs billions to explore space and some projects are on hold because they're too expensive. Under NOW you'd just do the thing that costs too much instead of settling for the half arsed attempt... simple example before wandering off too much. As the money won't exist any more, I find it hard to see why anyone would be suspicious of those who would seek to do away with it. It's not an obsession with wealth I would venture.

[mashman]

My head hurts now.

Fucking intellectuals.

:rofl: settle my love, hopefully someone will be along with tits shortly.

Oh hang on, I see you've found them already.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Whatever trading system replaces the current model, one thing is for sure. The total collapse of the current model will have to have occurred before the new model will get a toe in.

[mashman]

Whatever trading system replaces the current model, one thing is for sure. The total collapse of the current model will have to have occurred before the new model will get a toe in.

Hopefully no trading system will take its place. I'd rather avoid the collapse ta very much... much better to ween us off our money addiction? but I take yer point.

[The Lone Rider]

My first act as a candidate is to remove the 2 second cross fades, and opt in for more rehearsal or some montage to cover up the lack of rehearsal.

[blairnz]

Wow - I wasn't a fan of Dick Smith but the more I read about this guy, the cooler he seems to me. His political activism, paying investigative journalists to try and find the truth behind various events, , setting up Australian Geographic, and now motivating the youth to find answers to what he sees as real problems. It's good to see this type of person around and some of his unconventional methods to improve the world.

[mashman]

Dick Bump... passed to me by a friend today and a mighty fine read for those who give a shit... For Spain's Jobless, Time Equals Money (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443404004577577352038273664.html?m od=wsj_share_tweet)

Ditch the cash and people needn't resort to these sorts of actions to look after themselves. As the lass in the last paragraph says "There has to be a change in the mentality for there to be a change in the country," she says. "We can't continue to spend resources we don't have. We have to learn to live with less."... although there's no need for less, more the same stuff over greater periods of time :Punk: