The Taliban sent us a message/threat, in the hope our spirits would break

[willytheekid]

The Taliban sent us a message/Threat...in the hope our people & Militarys spirit would break...and we would leave the innocent people of Bamiyan and our Allies to it...

Well, Heres our Armys reply! (A farewell to our fallen)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6TRTBZUMM

KIA KAHA NZ Armed forces :niceone:...your voice has been heard by Millions! (And they are in AWE!)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7563798/Masses-watch-haka-farewell-to-fallen-soldiers
Among those moved by the footage was CNN interviewer Piers Morgan, who told his 2.6 million Twitter followers about the "Astounding, and deeply moving, Haka tribute to fallen comrades".

The video was also tweeted by CNN news anchor Anderson Cooper to his nearly three million followers. "Moving video of #NewZealand troops honoring their soldiers killed in #Afghanistan with #Maori war dance," he wrote.


The history of our armed forces clearly shows...We Kiwis don't start fights...we finish them!

Kia Kaha NZ...support our troops and the amazing job they are doing restoring and protecting Bamiyan province:niceone:

[Bald Eagle]

So now Americas bogus war is linked back to NZ, a softer target for terrorists, Nice one Obama

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[willytheekid]

So now Americas bogus war is linked back to NZ, a softer target for terrorists, Nice one Obama

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Oh well I guess we should just pull out and leave the innocent people of bamiyan to it then! :facepalm:

...we didnt go there to fight americas war, we sent reconstruction teams in to help the locals rebuild there infrastructure and give then some form of safety...do you think the Taliban will like the new schools?...the fact that the governor of the province is a woman?(the only woman in such a position!) and the fact that they have publicly acknowledged that they actually LIKE having us there protecting them from the Taliban?

...or should we just walk away and watch the masscre on tv from the safety of our couches

We didnt start this war!...we just went there to help the innocent rebuild there lives and to offer some degree of protection

[Tigadee]

So now Americas bogus war is linked back to NZ, a softer target for terrorists, Nice one Obama

Your response doesn't gel with your avatar... :laugh:

[Murray]

Oh well I guess we should just pull out and leave the innocent people of bamiyan to it then! :facepalm:

...we didnt go there to fight americas war, we sent reconstruction teams in to help the locals rebuild there infrastructure and give then some form of safety...do you think the Taliban will like the new schools?...the fact that the governor of the province is a woman?(the only woman in such a position!) and the fact that they have publicly acknowledged that they actually LIKE having us there protecting them from the Taliban?

...or should we just walk away and watch the masscre on tv from the safety of our couches

We didnt start this war!...we just went there to help the innocent rebuild there lives and to offer some degree of protection

I actually thought Bald Eagle had some nous about him. Now I see him as just another tosser. Thanks for putting that up and as you said Kia Kaha NZ Forces.

[Hoon]

Awesome haka. Seen many hakas in my time. What makes this haka great is that it is a raw display of collective individual emotion like hakas once were, not some formal performance as are many we see these days.

Saw the next rotation of troops at the bar in Waiouru last weekend. They are chomping at the bit and can't wait to get over there to finish the job. While others may find this unbelievable, for a soldier anything less is unthinkable.

When in a conflict situation, some people might turn and run whereas others will stand and fight. When the fighting increases then they fight harder. This is the difference between a civilian and a soldier. There is nothing wrong with running, not everyone has the stomach for conflict so that is why we have an Army to resolve these conflicts while the rest of us are kept safe. The problem is when those without the stomach for it forget their place and allow their irresistable urge to run to influence their opinion of what the Army should do.

It is these people that the Taliban appeal to with their media war.

[mashman]

Yes they are there to do a job. Yes they stand a chance of getting killed. Yes they know the risks and I highly doubt that there isn't a single person who doesn't appreciate that fact. That may well be the reason that Kiwi's are in Afghanistan, but that particular war was started by the yanks and I cacn understand why anyone who stands with the yanks could be perceived as fellow agitators. Sure the Teletubbies should be more thoughtful than just lumping the "peaceful" Kiwi in with attackers, but that just isn't war. It's sad to see people dying for reasons that are anything other than fighting for freedom and I do not see that as the reason this war is being fought.

Good luck to them indeed, but I don't see why they need to be there unless they were invited. These sorts of things have been going on in Africa for decades before this "conflict", yet fuck all was done. That raises some pretty big fuckin questions for me.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Awesome haka. Seen many hakas in my time. What makes this haka great is that it is a raw display of collective individual emotion like hakas once were, not some formal performance as are many we see these days.

Saw the next rotation of troops at the bar in Waiouru last weekend. They are chomping at the bit and can't wait to get over there to finish the job. While others may find this unbelievable, for a soldier anything less is unthinkable.

When in a conflict situation, some people might turn and run whereas others will stand and fight. When the fighting increases then they fight harder. This is the difference between a civilian and a soldier. There is nothing wrong with running, not everyone has the stomach for conflict so that is why we have an Army to resolve these conflicts while the rest of us are kept safe. The problem is when those without the stomach for it forget their place and allow their irresistable urge to run to influence their opinion of what the Army should do.

It is these people that the Taliban appeal to with their media war.

Very well said. That Haka made me blub

[scumdog]

So now Americas bogus war is linked back to NZ, a softer target for terrorists, Nice one Obama

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Quite right - why do we need an Army (or Airforce or Navy for that matter) anyway? - it's not like we have a war going on in EnZed is it???

[Delerium]

Quite right - why do we need an Army (or Airforce or Navy for that matter) anyway? - it's not like we have a war going on in EnZed is it???


So much :facepalm:

[Bald Eagle]

Sorry to offend, I'll keep my pacifist opinions to myself shall I.

[FJRider]

So now Americas bogus war is linked back to NZ, a softer target for terrorists, Nice one Obama


New Zealand and New Zealanders, are just as much at risk from those responsible for the twin towers attacks ... as any american. Or Austrailian for that matter. Those in Afganistan support their intentions of further attacks, and provide food/shelter/equipment and training for their attacks.

And if an attack of any kind (from anyONE) is made on NZ ... and as the USA is an ally of ours ... we can expect their assistance. Because if an attack IS made on NZ ... we WILL need their help.

[FJRider]

Sorry to offend, I'll keep my pacifist opinions to myself shall I.

Being a pacifist doesn't mean ... nothing is worth fighting for. But it does depend on how much you have ... and how badly you want to keep it. And how easy it is (could be) to LOSE it .... or taken off you.

[Bald Eagle]

Being a pacifist doesn't mean ... nothing is worth fighting for. But it does depend on how much you have ... and how badly you want to keep it. And how easy it is (could be) to LOSE it .... or taken off you.

Actually it means fighting is not worth anything.

Pacifism covers a spectrum of views, including the belief that international disputes can and should be peacefully resolved, calls for the abolition of the institutions of the military and war, opposition to any organization of society through governmental force.

[FJRider]

Actually it means fighting is not worth anything.



There was a youn "lady" I knew that said similar. I told her I was going to have sex with her. She said no you're not. I said what are you going to do that will stop me ... ??? FIGHT me off ... ???

She said YES I WILL ... !!! I said ... so much for being a pacifist ...

Some things ARE worth fighting for. Just ... Some things just ain't worth the bother ...

[flyingcrocodile46]

Actually it means fighting is not worth anything.

Pacifism covers a spectrum of views, including the belief that international disputes can and should be peacefully resolved, calls for the abolition of the institutions of the military and war, opposition to any organization of society through governmental force.

Does it? So it is acceptable to die and/or allow others to die (eg Syria) because of one principle, rather than to kill and survive and/or save others in the pursuit of another (eg Kosovo)?

I do not believe I would enjoy the feeling of self loathing and shame that would accompany such uncompromising pacifism.

[Katman]

There was a youn "lady" I knew that said similar. I told her I was going to have sex with her. She said no you're not. I said what are you going to do that will stop me ... ??? FIGHT me off ... ???

She said YES I WILL ... !!! I said ... so much for being a pacifist ...

Some things ARE worth fighting for. Just ... Some things just ain't worth the bother ...

The ugly ones don't fight so hard.

[FJRider]

The ugly ones don't fight so hard.

The REALLY ugly ones dont fight.





Just dont ask me how I know this ...

[flyingcrocodile46]

The REALLY ugly ones dont fight.





Just dont ask me how I know this ...


No, the REEEEALLY ugly ones fight .................. to hold you down :sick:

[mashman]

Does it? So it is acceptable to die and/or allow others to die (eg Syria) because of one principle, rather than to kill and survive and/or save others in the pursuit of another (eg Kosovo)?

I do not believe I would enjoy the feeling of self loathing and shame that would accompany such uncompromising pacifism.

It has been acceptable to have people dying in their millions in Africa long before Syria kicked off. You said what about principle? There's no principle at work here, just a bunch of fucktards warring because they need a war. What's so special about Afghanistan? The Taliban? That huge US trained threat to freedom? Pulease.

[FJRider]

... That huge US trained threat to freedom? Pulease.

But they trained them to fight the Ruskie's ... they're the bad guys. (Well ... they were THEN)

[Maki]

Does it? So it is acceptable to die and/or allow others to die (eg Syria) because of one principle, rather than to kill and survive and/or save others in the pursuit of another (eg Kosovo)?

I do not believe I would enjoy the feeling of self loathing and shame that would accompany such uncompromising pacifism.

Then you must feel sick to the core that NZ is going to cut and run early next year. Right?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Then you must feel sick to the core that NZ is going to cut and run early next year. Right?

No. What I was trying to say but didn't, was that it needs to be a compromise. Either extreme isn't healthy.

[Swoop]

Dear talli-tubbies,
Fuck off back to your caves and shag your goats some more. Your leadership is dead and dying, your middle-management structure is already dead.

Don't run, as you'll only die tired.
By the way, all the virgins you have been promised are uglier than your sisters and smell worse than fresh goatshit.

[Katman]

Dear talli-tubbies,
Fuck off back to your caves and shag your goats some more. Your leadership is dead and dying, your middle-management structure is already dead.

Don't run, as you'll only die tired.
By the way, all the virgins you have been promised are uglier than your sisters and smell worse than fresh goatshit.

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[Tigadee]

By the way, all the virgins you have been promised are uglier than your sisters and smell worse than fresh goatshit.

That's 'cos those virgins ARE goats...

[mashman]

But they trained them to fight the Ruskie's ... they're the bad guys. (Well ... they were THEN)

Gawd I hope they don't run out of bad guys... they'll end up tuning on their own populations.

[ducatilover]

Make peas not war.

[Macontour]

Thanks Willy. Saw this the other day on Youtube. As a member of the green wearing Fraternity I feel their pain. 2/1 Bn must be hurting really bad now.

[Tigadee]

Gawd I hope they don't run out of bad guys... they'll end up tuning on their own populations.

Must not have freeview, poor things...

[Swoop]

...
Oh the irony with you.:facepalm:
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[Katman]

Oh the irony with you.:facepalm:


Yeah, nah - I'm not the one sitting at a keyboard typing shit I wouldn't have the balls to say in real life.

[Swoop]

Yeah, nah - I'm not the one sitting at a keyboard typing shit I wouldn't have the balls to say in real life.
:rofl:
+10chars.

[RDjase]

DEFENCE Science and Personnel Minister Warren Snowdon has confirmed three Australian soldiers were killed and two were wounded in a "green on blue" attack in Afghanistan.
..The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said in a statement an individual wearing an Afghan National Army uniform turned his weapon on international soldiers in a "green on blue attack" during a clash on Wednesday, Agence France-Presse reported



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/fears-three-aussie-troops-may-have-been-killed-in-afghanistan/story-e6frf7jo-1226461361705

[george formby]

Gawd I hope they don't run out of bad guys... they'll end up tuning on their own populations.

:shit:Intertribal war in Afghanistan? Nah, wouldn't happen..... again. "You looking at my goat?"

[FJRider]

Thanks Willy. Saw this the other day on Youtube. As a member of the green wearing Fraternity I feel their pain. 2/1 Bn must be hurting really bad now.

I wore green myself once ...

[doc]

I wore green myself once ...

:eek5: Who is the dude your with ?

[FJRider]

:eek5: Who is the dude your with ?

The guy in uniform you mean ... ???

Dunno ..... I was having a nice sleep. Next minute ... :shit:

[mashman]

Must not have freeview, poor things...

heh heh heh... 1984 man.

[Nova.]

The guy in uniform you mean ... ???

Dunno ..... I was having a nice sleep. Next minute ... :shit:

you're not in the 2nd photo, what happened ?

[Brett]

Yeah, nah - I'm not the one sitting at a keyboard typing shit I wouldn't have the balls to say in real life.

Sometimes I think you're so full of shit you don't know where being a key board warrior ends and real life begins.:shutup: haha.

[Katman]

Sometimes I think you're so full of shit you don't know where being a key board warrior ends and real life begins.:shutup: haha.

Really?

So if Mr Taliban knocked on his door, you think Swoop would do anything but piss his panties?

[Swoop]

Really?

So if Mr Taliban knocked on his door, you think Swoop would do anything but piss his panties?
Mr talli-tubbi would be most welcome to knock on my door.

What would you do? Tell him to be more responsible in his actions or run off to change your nappy?

[Katman]

Mr talli-tubbi would be most welcome to knock on my door.


Yeah, I'm sure. :rolleyes:



What would you do? Tell him to be more responsible in his actions or run off to change your nappy?

I'm not the one pounding my chest.

[nudemetalz]

Annnnyway,...thanks for sharing, Willy.
Very emotional Haka.

[Paul in NZ]

I often wondered how inter tribal wars start.... Now that I've read this post I think I get it....

[Brett]

Really?

So if Mr Taliban knocked on his door, you think Swoop would do anything but piss his panties?

Well I don't really know the fella that well. For all I know he's ex-sas currently working as a weapons and combat instructor. Or he could be an artist who has never so much as scuffed a knuckle. That's kind of the point though...no one really knows who is behind an online persona.

Edit - and Katman...you must admit...you can be a bit of a keyboard prize fighter sometimes! (although, you're not always wrong!)

[Brett]

Mr talli-tubbi would be most welcome to knock on my door.

What would you do? Tell him to be more responsible in his actions or run off to change your nappy?

The problem is, Ahmed ChickBOOM is not the kind to knock on your door and hang around. He is likely to place an IED booby trapped to the door so that after he has knocked and run away, you're blown up when you answer the door!

[Swoop]

The problem is, Ahmed ChickBOOM is not the kind to knock on your door and hang around. He is likely to place an IED booby trapped to the door so that after he has knocked and run away, you're blown up when you answer the door!
Correct.
The title of the thread says a lot. Spirits are not broken here (apart from those who want to circle the wagons and wave the French National Flag) and the terrorists should be sent a message in return.

Respect to the fallen troops.

[FJRider]

you're not in the 2nd photo, what happened ?

I took the photo silly ... :shifty:

[mashman]

the terrorists should be sent a message in return.

Respect to the fallen troops.

I got yer back... Dear Mr Obama, if you give the Palestinian people their land back, or at least broker some form of deal, and you remove your troops from Islamic country's then the freedom fighters will stop fighting. You're welcome, Mash.

[huff3r]

I got yer back... Dear Mr Obama, if you give the Palestinian people their land back, or at least broker some form of deal, and you remove your troops from Islamic country's then the freedom fighters will stop fighting. You're welcome, Mash.

Do you really think they will? A bit naive to think that isn't it?

Especially since they have been killing their own for many many years before the Americans were even involved.

[Katman]

Especially since they have been killing their own for many many years before the Americans were even involved.

Sometimes it sucks to be other people.

[mashman]

Do you really think they will? A bit naive to think that isn't it?

Especially since they have been killing their own for many many years before the Americans were even involved.

:killingme. Is it not worth giving it a shot? or are you too hooked on your war that you refuse to take the freedom fighters at their word, just in case? Look at it this way, if the freedom fighters break that "oath" then it's carte blanche, open season on their asses. They have made their position clear, all we hear from the west is, we do not negotiate with "terrorists". Funny as it is the west that is the aggressor. Boils my blood that people swallow that line of shite without a shred of evidence, just a gut feeling and some "intelligence" from the aggressor... and I'm the naive one :killingme.

So why did the Americans get involved? and the Africans have been doing the same for decades before that, but I don't see any western intervention there. Nope, they'd rather fly straight over the top of that and head straight to the other side of the world to impose their authority.

Go back to sleep son.

[XF650]

Does anyone know if it's true that the Yanks have sent our Govt an invoice for the blown up Humvee?

[Hinny]

What are the chances the Taliban would be allowed to participate in democratic elections?

[FJRider]

What are the chances the Taliban would be allowed to participate in democratic elections?

Which part of Democratic do you not understand ... ???

[Hinny]

Which part of Democratic do you not understand ... ???

I don't understand what you are driving at.
Please try and be a little less obtuse.

[FJRider]

I don't understand what you are driving at.
Please try and be a little less obtuse.

If the Taliban were not allowed to vote ... it would not be a democratic election.

[Hinny]

If the Taliban were not allowed to vote ... it would not be a democratic election.

So do you think Afghanistan is going to end up with a democracy or not?

[FJRider]

So do you think Afghanistan is going to end up with a democracy or not?

It worked in East Timor ... right ... ???

But Afghanistan ... ??? they will hold elections ... but ... ??

If you think the choosing of political party members to run for a position in goverment in NZ is suspect ... We don't have armed gangs running loose threatening people to vote their, way on pain of death if they don't ...

Compared to the Taliban ... the Mongrel Mob are pussies ...

[Hinny]

It worked in East Timor ... right ... ???

But Afghanistan ... ??? they will hold elections ... but ... ??

If you think the choosing of political party members to run for a position in goverment in NZ is suspect ... We don't have armed gangs running loose threatening people to vote their, way on pain of death if they don't ...

Compared to the Taliban ... the Mongrel Mob are pussies ...

How do you know these things?

[FJRider]

How do you know these things?

I read it in the news paper ..... :innocent:

[SMOKEU]

Compared to the Taliban ... the Mongrel Mob are pussies ...

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