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crystalball
31st August 2012, 18:27
I find it very hard to ride behind a cager for to long,

On the highway if they are doing 100 to 105 I want to overtake.

On the motorway on the way to work. I try my best not to but just end up using my own lane which is inbetween the cages or weaving around them.

On the city street 50km area's I will be happy to follow a cage unless its doing dead on 50km

Now this is all good as long as its done in a passive way. What gets to me and I find is the hardest part of riding a motorcycle for me is when its done in a agressive and dangerous way.

Most times I tell myself to ride safe but somehow the agression appears and takes over. Next year I am thinking of getting a gsxr 1000 k6 or k7 I know this wont help but a big part of me says yay this will be fun. I know a bike is easy to get in and out and around and past a cage. I also know if ya come off a bike its gona hurt or even be worse.

One day I am going to learn to ride safely and in a law abidding way all the time. How I don't know, mayby by the law or mayby a accident or hopefully mayby by muturity with bikes.

Yes riders say only f wits and d heads e.t.c ride dangerously. Honestly we all do it sometimes but how do we controll it so we are in contoll of it.:facepalm:

Laava
31st August 2012, 18:33
Ride behind? Is that like a reach around?

Kornholio
31st August 2012, 18:37
Just remember cars are mobile chicanes

SMOKEU
31st August 2012, 18:39
I can't easily cruise at 100kmh because the bike is fucked and runs rough when it's not being thrashed. There's my excuse.

nzmikey
31st August 2012, 18:42
Whats this "Riding behind cars" thing you speak of ?

I thought the object was to pass EVERYTHING .

Motorways suck as you get turbulence from cars unless you are 50m behind & if that is the case some other cage will take the opportunity to take said gap .

haydes55
31st August 2012, 18:51
I'm fine cruising behind a cage, unless it is going under the speed limit. I get so sick of cages going 80km/h in 100km/h zones. Wonder how they would like it if I overtook them and went 20km/h less than they want to go and not let them past?

Kornholio
31st August 2012, 18:54
I'm fine cruising behind a cage, unless it is going under the speed limit. I get so sick of cages going 80km/h in 100km/h zones. Wonder how they would like it if I overtook them and went 20km/h less than they want to go and not let them past?

You would probably get run over....

haydes55
31st August 2012, 18:57
You would probably get run over....

Might try it in my rusty cage then haha

huff3r
31st August 2012, 18:59
I stay behind cages for a loooong time without overtaking. Riding a GN does that to you.

Oakie
31st August 2012, 19:08
Can do it all day long in the right circumstances and if I feel like it.

bogan
31st August 2012, 19:10
Bout 10k speed difference, or when a passing lane comes along. Otherwise I will just follow along for a while.

Maybe do yourself and us a favor and hang up your boots until you get that aggression sorted, not a good way to ride for either safety or enjoyment.

FJRider
31st August 2012, 19:13
Whats this "Riding behind cars" thing you speak of ?

I thought the object was to pass EVERYTHING .



Suzuki riders ... a common problem for them ...

However ... honda riders do usually like to be behind. (if it's their turn to be behind)

onearmedbandit
31st August 2012, 19:14
Depends on my mood. Sometimes content to cruise, other times I'll pass. This is for only on the open road though, around town I don't pass.

Kornholio
31st August 2012, 19:24
Depends on my mood. Sometimes content to cruise, other times I'll pass. This is for only on the open road though, around town I don't pass.

My god, that is a very sensible answer Mr Brown ;D

onearmedbandit
31st August 2012, 19:26
My god, that is a very sensible answer Mr Brown ;D

I know. Obviously not feeling well. Maybe I need to rediscover myself.

Oakie
31st August 2012, 19:37
Happy to follow someone at 115kph all day bearing in mind the 'first in line, pays the fine' rule (which is all well and good until the fine allocators come up from behind you).

oldrider
31st August 2012, 19:51
Ride in the clear space behind or move briskly up to the clear space ahead and try to stay away from any other idiot that might try to do my thinking for me! :ride:

So far it's worked OK for me! (Well, for 58 years anyway!)

Berries
31st August 2012, 20:01
If I wanted to sit behind traffic I would get myself a car. I don't understand the question.


Happy to follow someone at 115kph all day bearing in mind the 'first in line, pays the fine' rule (which is all well and good until the fine allocators come up from behind you).
Hmmm, was that car a Toyota or a Mazda? Or a Ford? Fuck it, let's stop the bike.

nerrrd
31st August 2012, 20:06
Ah could do that all day, ah could (apologies to Geoff Boycott but I'm watching cricket...)

And then there was that time when I was passed by a 4 wheel drive...towing a trailer...with a bike on it...I'm slow.

Subike
31st August 2012, 20:10
Just remember cars are mobile chicanes

me with this,
Im an aggressive rider, I don't sit behind cages, cant see the road properly behind them,
Cars tend to make potholes , oil slicks and white lines not appear till too late, fuck, Im off......
and behind cars I am invisible to other traffic heading my way, or at intersections.
They could pull out and side impact me thinking there is just the car to pass before they can pull out. SMIDSU.

Kornholio
31st August 2012, 20:23
me with this,
Im an aggressive rider, I don't sit behind cages, cant see the road properly behind them,
Cars tend to make potholes , oil slicks and white lines not appear till too late, fuck, Im off......
and behind cars I am invisible to other traffic heading my way, or at intersections.
They could pull out and side impact me thinking there is just the car to pass before they can pull out. SMIDSU.

Sorry mate but you know a keeway is not an actual motorcycle :p and as for being agressive on one, your just taking the piss :)

Akzle
31st August 2012, 20:43
I find it very hard to ride behind a cager for to long,...

One day I am going to learn to ride safely and in a law abidding way all the time. How I don't know, mayby by the law or mayby a accident or hopefully mayby by muturity with bikes.

Yes riders say only f wits and d heads e.t.c ride dangerously. Honestly we all do it sometimes but how do we controll it so we are in contoll of it.:facepalm:

109km/h.
all the time.


riding a motorbike is schweet. it's you vs the law. one of you will always luck out first.
(hint: it ain't the law)

Subike
31st August 2012, 20:51
Sorry mate but you know a keeway is not an actual motorcycle :p and as for being agressive on one, your just taking the piss :)

come follow me one day in some twisties on you big bike, or filter across town, maybee ....I might get out of second gear even...:innocent:

haydes55
31st August 2012, 21:02
come follow me one day in some twisties on you big bike, or filter across town, maybee ....I might get out of second gear even...:innocent:

:killingme
:corn:

Have you ridden a sportsbike? have you ridden a bike over 250cc? have you ridden a non-chinese bike?

Sportsbike>cruiser every time

Subike
31st August 2012, 21:11
:killingme
:corn:

Have you ridden a sportsbike? have you ridden a bike over 250cc? have you ridden a non-chinese bike?

Sportsbike>cruiser every time

go cruse my profile, and answer that question yourself,

crystalball
31st August 2012, 21:20
Geez look at this guy. :eek5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i55ZfIuA1PI&feature=related

Oscar
31st August 2012, 21:22
I wish I was a big tough biker so I could use words like "cager".

haydes55
31st August 2012, 21:24
go cruse my profile, and answer that question yourself,

What made you convert from a classic bike (that actually looks pretty sweet :Punk:) to a budget commuter learners bike?

There is also a reason that all classic bikes under 660cc are going to be learners legal, the technology back then is underwhelming compared to a late model Gixxer. 600cc bikes these days have double the horsepower and weigh a lot less than a classic.

A gixxer is slimmer, can filter better, can corner better (a cruiser can't get much lean before it bottoms out), accelerates faster, brakes faster.

crystalball
31st August 2012, 21:24
I wish I was a big tough biker so I could use words like "cager".

LOL funny im only 5.7 and 69kg's far from tuff lol. Not sure why ya have to be tuff to use a word tho :bye:

Oscar
31st August 2012, 21:27
LOL funny im only 5.7 and 69kg's far from tuff lol. Not sure why ya have to be tuff to use a word tho :bye:

Sorry, did I say "tough"?
I meant "seriously immature and delusional".

My mistake.

crystalball
31st August 2012, 21:30
Sorry, did I say "tough"?
I meant "seriously immature and delusional".

My mistake.

Thats it you made me cry. Im never coming back.:violin:

Scuba_Steve
31st August 2012, 21:33
Sorry, did I say "tough"?
I meant "seriously immature and delusional".

My mistake.

I don't get what the problem with "cager" is??? I think it's a good way to encompass all.
Maybee you'd prefer the title - 'how long can you ride behind a car, truck, van, SUV, people mover, or ute before you feel the need to overtake'

haydes55
31st August 2012, 21:34
Sorry, did I say "tough"?
I meant "seriously immature and delusional".

My mistake.

Didn't realise colloquialisms weren't allowed.

I'll stop calling my mother "mum" as well.

:facepalm:

Oscar
31st August 2012, 21:35
Thats it you made me cry. Im never coming back.:violin:

Please don't go - we're short of people peddling clichés about motorcyclists..

Oscar
31st August 2012, 21:41
I don't get what the problem with "cager" is??? I think it's a good way to encompass all.
Maybee you'd prefer the title - 'how long can you ride behind a car, truck, van, SUV, people mover, or ute before you feel the need to overtake'

I just get bored with it.
Some motorcyclists have to build themselves up by denigrating other road users and/or treating them like chicanes.
One thread will be like this where someone is complaining about how difficult it is to "law-abidding" and then we have one complaining about ACC levies or the attitude of the public towards us.
There's probably no relationship, though.

crystalball
31st August 2012, 21:44
I just get bored with it.
Some motorcyclists have to build themselves up by denigrating other road users and/or treating them like chicanes.
One thread will be like this where someone is complaining about how difficult it is to "law-abidding" and then we have one complaining about ACC levies or the attitude of the public towards us.
There's probably no relationship, though.

Anyhow what is a chicane, never heard the word befor.

Subike
31st August 2012, 21:45
What made you convert from a classic bike (that actually looks pretty sweet :Punk:) to a budget commuter learners bike?

There is also a reason that all classic bikes under 660cc are going to be learners legal, the technology back then is underwhelming compared to a late model Gixxer. 600cc bikes these days have double the horsepower and weigh a lot less than a classic.

A gixxer is slimmer, can filter better, can corner better (a cruiser can't get much lean before it bottoms out), accelerates faster, brakes faster.

still have both those XS1100's
But need a license to ride them dont I, after 30+ years without a license, I decided to conform. Plus the 250 better for work commuting, and is a heap shit load of fun in traffic, on hills, and embarrassing bigger bikes in twisty sections who think a little Chinese cruiser is a piece of shit.

Oscar
31st August 2012, 21:46
Didn't realise colloquialisms weren't allowed.

I'll stop calling my mother "mum" as well.

:facepalm:

It isn't a colloquialism, it's a cliché

Definition of CLICHÉ
1
: a trite phrase or expression; also : the idea expressed by it
2
: a hackneyed theme, characterization, or situation

Brayden
31st August 2012, 21:48
The worst is when a car is going 90 km/s then speeds up in a passing lane. I was following a group of cars on the way back from the rimutakas then about 4 cars sped, shit you not 140 km/s an hour, all four cars.. Couldn't make it past the last car, then back to 90 k's we go. Sad stuff

xen
31st August 2012, 21:54
The worst is when a car is going 90 km/s then speeds up in a passing lane. I was following a group of cars on the way back from the rimutakas then about 4 cars sped, shit you not 140 km/s an hour, all four cars.. Couldn't make it past the last car, then back to 90 k's we go. Sad stuff

Thats when you want thou power ;)

FJRider
31st August 2012, 22:02
The worst is when a car is going 90 km/s then speeds up in a passing lane. I was following a group of cars on the way back from the rimutakas then about 4 cars sped, shit you not 140 km/s an hour, all four cars.. Couldn't make it past the last car, then back to 90 k's we go. Sad stuff

That last one could have been a mufti ... you were lucky ...

FJRider
31st August 2012, 22:05
Anyhow what is a chicane, never heard the word befor.

It's something you have to go around. Some racetracks have stationary chicane's ... public roads have moving ones.

mossy1200
31st August 2012, 22:33
Cars will normally try pass me after a few hundred meters. When I have the wife on the back they stay behind alot longer for some reason.
Does my arse look good in this?

sootie
31st August 2012, 22:51
agree with onearmedbandit

ducatilover
31st August 2012, 22:53
I stay behind cages for a loooong time without overtaking. Riding a GN does that to you. I can relate


What made you convert from a classic bike (that actually looks pretty sweet :Punk:) to a budget commuter learners bike?

There is also a reason that all classic bikes under 660cc are going to be learners legal, the technology back then is underwhelming compared to a late model Gixxer. 600cc bikes these days have double the horsepower and weigh a lot less than a classic.

A gixxer is slimmer, can filter better, can corner better (a cruiser can't get much lean before it bottoms out), accelerates faster, brakes faster.
$30 says I can out ride you on his XS1100 :bleh: Big ol' girls like that are surprisingly easy to haul around on.
Stating the obvious about a bike designed to go faster or be lighter, will be faster or lighter
$40 says I can pull a wicked skid on his Keeway

The worst is when a car is going 90 km/s then speeds up in a passing lane. I was following a group of cars on the way back from the rimutakas then about 4 cars sped, shit you not 140 km/s an hour, all four cars.. Couldn't make it past the last car, then back to 90 k's we go. Sad stuff

I don't suffer from that on one of my bikes.
The other won't even run for a day, so that's not an issue either lol


Oh and I am more than happy to tootle behind cages.

pete376403
31st August 2012, 23:00
If the cage in question has 1. really garish roof ornaments, 2. a weird yellow blue and white colour scheme and 3. multiple radio aerials I could sit behind it all day if need be. (rego on hold, trying to avoid trouble)

Tigadee
31st August 2012, 23:03
I wait 5 secs behind a car and if it's all clear behind and ahead, I go past. And if it's a 90kph car in the fast 110kph lane, I go around the left and honk as I pass.

Can't suffer fools who think just 'cos there's no traffic ahead, it's OK to stay in the overtaking lane when there's nothing to overtake and they are being undertaken... :facepalm:

That said, there were quite a few cagers on the motorway this morning who moved over left when they saw me coming up behind them. Good on them and I give them the thumbs up or little wave of thanks when I pass.

bsasuper
31st August 2012, 23:11
I find it very hard to ride behind a cager for to long,

On the highway if they are doing 100 to 105 I want to overtake.

On the motorway on the way to work. I try my best not to but just end up using my own lane which is inbetween the cages or weaving around them.

On the city street 50km area's I will be happy to follow a cage unless its doing dead on 50km

Now this is all good as long as its done in a passive way. What gets to me and I find is the hardest part of riding a motorcycle for me is when its done in a agressive and dangerous way.

Most times I tell myself to ride safe but somehow the agression appears and takes over. Next year I am thinking of getting a gsxr 1000 k6 or k7 I know this wont help but a big part of me says yay this will be fun. I know a bike is easy to get in and out and around and past a cage. I also know if ya come off a bike its gona hurt or even be worse.

One day I am going to learn to ride safely and in a law abidding way all the time. How I don't know, mayby by the law or mayby a accident or hopefully mayby by muturity with bikes.

Yes riders say only f wits and d heads e.t.c ride dangerously. Honestly we all do it sometimes but how do we controll it so we are in contoll of it.:facepalm:


I've just worn out my old shovel from scraping riders like you off the road, I have just got a brand new one though so a good chance you might be first one to get use.
Unfortunately a lot of riders/drivers get into a habit of having to overtake everything in sight,which is fine if some dodo is impeding the flow etc,but then it turns into passing cars that are traveling at the posted limit, and this is when they stop thinking about safe distance and start taking risks.These sorts of people are the ones that cause a lot of accidents.I do like to overtake though, at these things called trackdays.

Road kill
1st September 2012, 07:27
On the open road I usually sit about 100 meters behind the average car travelling around 100-120,it's just a habit from driving trucks for so long.

If the traffic is traveling less than the speed limit I just over take an just carry on at my usual 100-120kms.

Motorway traffic is different an then I just do what seems to work at the time,I like maintaining "average" speeds,,,another truck habit.

If I do want to travel a bit faster I just wait until the inevitable Skyline or Audi comes along an then woodduck them for a while.

An old trick when coming into a town I don't know is to pull over an wait the very short time period until some local goes flying by,give him a couple of minites then carry on.

Then I've often seen them talking to Mr plod a short time later.

Passing cars or traveling fast has never been the way to get somewhere in a hurry,,,maintaining a reasonable speed and not stopping is.

A lot of it for me is about preserving my licence,keeping my money in my own pocket and simply staying alive.

I'm a life member of a motorcycle club,I've seen three people die while riding bikes and I've visted a lot more in hospital,,,,,,,,,,I can't control myself usually finishes with a messy bang.

FJRider
1st September 2012, 12:26
If the cage in question has 1. really garish roof ornaments, 2. a weird yellow blue and white colour scheme and 3. multiple radio aerials I could sit behind it all day if need be. (rego on hold, trying to avoid trouble)

It's the plain paint-jobs ... with small dash and rear window tray fittings, that are more of a worry.

Look closely at what you are about to pass.

Scream
1st September 2012, 12:35
All depends on the mood for starters, but the following is generally how it goes:

In 50kph areas I generally don't overtake unless people are going 45kph or less, and when they are I usually wait for a downhill dip as cagers always have a tendency of riding the brakes despite the fact they'd lose all the speed they gained as soon as they go back uphill, at which point if there's no traffic coming I drop a gear and fang it.

In the countryside I'm more than happy to stick behind a cager so long as they show a bit of ability in their cage to go around corners and such, instead of slowing right down for corners like soccer Mums, which I generally overtake using the momentum I keep from the exit of a corner, not that my bike has that much trouble overtaking at open road speeds.

On the motorway I'll sit behind someone averaging between 105 and 120 kph with no complaints.

george formby
1st September 2012, 12:51
I hate paying the speed tax so most of my riding is sedate, consistently sedate, I only really have a flurry on private roads. I assume they are private if there is no other traffic on them.

I'm happy to sit behind a car if they can drive & maintain a reasonable speed, saves me petrol. If I catch a typical numpty, braking hard in the middle of corners, thrashing it on the next straight bit, playing pinball with the white line & verge etc I either drop back & leave them to it, if they speed up, or, look for a safe overtake so I can get out of their firing line & not worry about what they are going to do next.
It's all about keeping safe in space for me and not being hindered through nice corners:whistle:

GrayWolf
1st September 2012, 12:55
What made you convert from a classic bike (that actually looks pretty sweet :Punk:) to a budget commuter learners bike?
A gixxer is slimmer, can filter better, can corner better (a cruiser can't get much lean before it bottoms out), accelerates faster, brakes faster.

Really?? As much as I am no Hardley aficionado...... EXPLAIN THIS lmfao!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjFeC7g6_40

ducatilover
1st September 2012, 14:45
Really?? As much as I am no Hardley aficionado...... EXPLAIN THIS lmfao!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjFeC7g6_40

I saw a chap on a gixxer-250 get dusted by a Honda Rune with a passenger the other day, I was incredibly happy seeing that.
:wings:


edit: I am reminded of a certain Hardley running a low 13sec pass with a shot of giggle gas though. That was an impressive failure.

Katman
1st September 2012, 14:48
Im an aggressive rider

Twat.






That is all.

Laava
1st September 2012, 15:53
Always makes me laugh when people bigup their ridings skills and or bike. Usually it is like the big root braggers. Those who talk about it the most do it the least.

huff3r
1st September 2012, 17:07
Really?? As much as I am no Hardley aficionado...... EXPLAIN THIS lmfao!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjFeC7g6_40

Yes but a Harley is hardly a:


budget commuter learners bike?

nzmikey
1st September 2012, 18:07
A gixxer is slimmer

lol guess you aint ridden a 99 SRAD then ... she is a fat bitch :lol:

haydes55
1st September 2012, 18:14
lol guess you aint ridden a 99 SRAD then ... she is a fat bitch :lol:

Hardly got ape hangers though haha.

The handlebars in traffic would collect fewer mirrors than a keeway cruiser.

nzmikey
1st September 2012, 18:17
Hardly got ape hangers though haha.

The handlebars in traffic would collect fewer mirrors than a keeway cruiser.

This is true .... I had mine sitting next to an 08 gixxer & I am staggered how large my tank is compared to the 08

Subike
1st September 2012, 18:54
Hardly got ape hangers though haha.

The handlebars in traffic would collect fewer mirrors than a keeway cruiser.

The handle bars on my Keeway are narrower than most sprot bikes, Yet to clip a mirror filtering.
Its a very narrow bike compared to most,
But then its a plastic fantastic, Chinese crappy copy thats clocked over 8k in 6 mths without effort, been to the brass, comfortably sits at 110 kph amongst a group of tourers along the Kaikora coast, gets 74 mpg, and is a heaps shit load of fun to ride, as it pisses all you fellas off that's its is actually a good bike, despite all your criticisms. Apart from a regulator failure, which Triumph New Zealand replaced in 24hrs, (better than aprillia I'm lead to believe) at no cost under warrentee.
But my original post in this thread. I guess I should have stipulated for all the brainless ones, was when I am riding my XS1100 Yammy.

Anyways, this is becoming a hoot, I enjoying laughing at all you awesome knowledgeable big bike riders

Isn't it fun making factual assumptions based upon minimal facts with vast qauntites of wisdom and experience about all things unknown

Oakie
1st September 2012, 20:14
The handle bars on my Keeway are narrower than most sprot bikes, Yet to clip a mirror filtering.
Its a very narrow bike compared to most,
But then its a plastic fantastic, Chinese crappy copy thats clocked over 8k in 6 mths without effort, been to the brass, comfortably sits at 110 kph amongst a group of tourers along the Kaikora coast, gets 74 mpg, and is a heaps shit load of fun to ride, as it pisses all you fellas off that's its is actually a good bike, despite all your criticisms.

What are you going to do with it after you get your full license ... that would be the question. Be interesting to get a review from a biker who has ridden other mainstream bikes (like a large Yamaha) after say 3 years ownership.

Padmei
1st September 2012, 20:33
Always makes me laugh when people bigup their ridings skills and or bike. Usually it is like the big root braggers. Those who talk about it the most do it the least.

Nah that's bullshit cos I tell everyone I ride like crap but everyone that watches me agrees.

DEATH_INC.
1st September 2012, 20:49
You know what pisses me off? Wankers on bikes that need to pass Me when in the 'cage' then proceed to slow down and bloody hold me up. It happens more often than you would think. :tugger:
As for a chinese cruiser or an XS1100 being able to outrun a newer sportbike....where do you start :facepalm:

98tls
1st September 2012, 20:56
:killingme
:corn:

Have you ridden a sportsbike? have you ridden a bike over 250cc? have you ridden a non-chinese bike?

Sportsbike>cruiser every time

Are you the product of a way to close family?The guy was riding bikes long before dickheads sat behind a computer pretending they can.On the Sportsbike>Cruiser thing,you have a fair bit to learn methinks,theres blokes out there with plenty of ability riding cruisers that would wipe the floor with 1/2 the dickheads riding sportsbikes with no ability whatsoever.A blimp suit and flash helmet means shit.

98tls
1st September 2012, 21:09
You know what pisses me off? Wankers on bikes that need to pass Me when in the 'cage' then proceed to slow down and bloody hold me up. It happens more often than you would think. :tugger:
As for a chinese cruiser or an XS1100 being able to outrun a newer sportbike....where do you start :facepalm:

Id start with whos riding what,contrary to what the internet puts in peoples heads purchasing a newer sports bike doesnt actually mean the act of purchasing gives one the ability to ride the fucking thing.The internet and all its bullshit has taken a toll on reality for sure and none more so than in the world of motorcycling.Theres plenty of guys out there with enough ability to go hard on real world roads on the latest n greatest but theres shitloads more that havent and would actually go quicker on something smaller but that wouldnt suit the image eh,there the guys that get passed on real world roads on old shitters.Funny though you never see them post up about it.

ducatilover
2nd September 2012, 00:43
As for a chinese cruiser or an XS1100 being able to outrun a newer sportbike....where do you start :facepalm:

I'd get out run by a girl on a pit bike on my 600. You can outrun superior machines on anything if the superior machine is being ridden slower.

Bonez
2nd September 2012, 08:26
I'm hardly ever in controll of the CX but occasionally I may be in control. And then sometimes I just troll.


What a luv'ly day for a ride. Opps I ment roll...................








Posted on my 286 running PCDos 5.04 and GeoWorks Ensemble 1.2

rastuscat
2nd September 2012, 08:38
The worst is when a car is going 90 km/s then speeds up in a passing lane. I was following a group of cars on the way back from the rimutakas then about 4 cars sped, shit you not 140 km/s an hour, all four cars.. Couldn't make it past the last car, then back to 90 k's we go. Sad stuff

Passing lanes are for cars to pass.

Bikes can pas damn near anywhere, as long as it's with good visibility.

The benefit of bikes is the power to weight ratio, and the resulting ability to create speed differential.

rastuscat
2nd September 2012, 08:40
Isn't it fun making factual assumptions based upon minimal facts with vast qauntites of wisdom and experience about all things unknown

It's what makes KB such a fun place :)

Bonez
2nd September 2012, 08:44
It's what makes KB such a fun place :)Indeed it does. Sometimes the more experianced rider are as entertaining as the numpty noobs.




Posted on my 486 running OS/2 v3 Connect using WebExplorer

Sable
2nd September 2012, 09:01
and embarrassing people who think a little Chinese cruiser isn't a piece of shit.
Fixed your post for you bro

PrincessBandit
2nd September 2012, 09:24
I love having a nice car to sit behind when I'm riding at night on unfamiliar roads.

Bonez
2nd September 2012, 09:29
I love having a nice car to sit behind when I'm riding at night on unfamiliar roads.Good protection for any stock that might be wondering too.

DEATH_INC.
2nd September 2012, 09:59
Id start with whos riding what,contrary to what the internet puts in peoples heads purchasing a newer sports bike doesnt actually mean the act of purchasing gives one the ability to ride the fucking thing.

Have you ridden an XS1100???? :eek5:

But ok, point taken. And I agree and have said myself that too many people buy bikes that are too much and go slower than before. There's many people on here that have had their ass handed to them by a certain bloke on a RG150 on 1000 sprotbikes. I'm talking more generally though, neither the XS or the cruiser have much ground clearance at all (we won't even start on suspension and tyres etc etc) so are severely limited on cornering. Even an average rider on a sprotbike should have no problem despatching either.

Not saying it's not possible, but to come on here and proclaim to be able to see off most guys on sportbikes is a little big headed.

Subike
2nd September 2012, 10:19
Have you ridden an XS1100???? :eek5:


Not saying it's not possible, but to come on here and proclaim to be able to see off most guys on sportbikes is a little big headed.

Never proclaimed that at all Death, keep up with, and embarrassed were the words used, not better than.
The op was about how long would you stay behind a car on the road,. expand that to how long do you stay behind the bike in front of you when, for example, the Akaroa highway, when you know without any effort you can travel on you old bike so much quicker than the rossi clad fella on the modern sports bike who is going that fucking slow its frustrating.
Another rider and I followed a 1000cc green thing up that hill, he was in full racing gear, and basically a new sports bike,
I was on my 1100, and the other rider was on a DR650, we both passed him without effort. Was that wrong?
Ahh, but then I guess egos can be deflated when a rider on something considered old or crap out rides better machinery, not better riders.
Heaps of rides I have been on, and have followed sport bikes, there is no way I can keep up without going outside the boundaries of control, skill, ability of the bike,and still be inside that safe zone. I dont need to prove anything to anyone.
Yet I do find myself passing quite often, riders on better machinery than mine, with in the realms of the law and safety, why? "cause I can'

DEATH_INC.
2nd September 2012, 10:28
Nothing wrong with it at all, been there, blah, blah.
Just don't like the way your 'claim' reads.

Bonez
2nd September 2012, 10:34
Nothing wrong with it at all, been there, blah, blah.
Just don't like the way your 'claim' reads.It's KB for fuck sake. Grab a tissue.

Madness
2nd September 2012, 10:35
Yet I do find myself passing quite often, riders on better machinery than mine, with in the realms of the law and safety, why?

Because the riders on better machinery are observing the posted speed limit at that point in time? :facepalm:

Subike
2nd September 2012, 10:37
Because the riders on better machinery are observing the posted speed limit at that point in time? :facepalm:

not at all , there is the assumption. ""within the realms of the law"" was part of my statement ,

so, then, just because I am on my Chinese Keeway, or my 300 year old yammy, there is a rule that says I cannot pass a newer or more flasher bike on the road?

Week end Warriors are such a P I T A. Almost as bad as the Cheque book riders who could never ride their $30k machines to within %50 of the machines ability

slofox
2nd September 2012, 10:50
How long can I ride behind a cager before I feel the need to overtake?

Out on the highway, it measured out to 0.003 of a nano-second last time I checked.

In town, I just stay in line.

Madness
2nd September 2012, 11:01
not at all , there is the assumption. ""within the realms of the law"" was part of my statement ,

Sorry, my bad. I must admit however that I do struggle to read your posts, what with the lack of simple sentence structure & a total disregard for the paragraph. Swings & roundabouts though, eh? I mean Valentino Rossi probably can't form a paragraph for shit either.

manxkiwi
2nd September 2012, 12:22
Next year I am thinking of getting a gsxr 1000 k6 or k7 :


Get the K6, way better!

Bonez
2nd September 2012, 20:18
Get the K6, way better!Like this one?

GrayWolf
3rd September 2012, 03:23
Have you ridden an XS1100???? :eek5:

But ok, point taken. And I agree and have said myself that too many people buy bikes that are too much and go slower than before. There's many people on here that have had their ass handed to them by a certain bloke on a RG150 on 1000 sprotbikes.

Speaking of Qualman, where is he these days???

DEATH_INC.
3rd September 2012, 11:03
It's KB for fuck sake. Grab a tissue.
You think I'm wrong? It's a seriously ridiculous claim.
May I suggest said sportbikers were just cruising along perhaps? Or are we all too slow for you guys if we aren't going flat out?
And I'm outta tissues. :yawn:

Maha
3rd September 2012, 11:16
You think I'm wrong? It's a seriously ridiculous claim.
May I suggest said sportbikers were just cruising along perhaps? Or are we all too slow for you guys if we aren't going flat out?
And I'm outta tissues. :yawn:

First you buy a Honda then you grab a tissue.....;)

manxkiwi
3rd September 2012, 11:17
Like this one?


Oh wow! That model has escaped me. Can you get them here?

G4L4XY
3rd September 2012, 11:18
Happy to follow someone at 115kph all day bearing in mind the 'first in line, pays the fine' rule (which is all well and good until the fine allocators come up from behind you).

Since getting the Honda I find I can't follow anything for long at all, whether they're sitting on 100kmp/h or not. I did actually manage to follow a nice purple holden with a personalized plate for a while heading south on the motorway. I eventually did pass it however and when fueling up at the lonely ol mobil halfway to Thames he passed me. Didn't take long to catch up and repass him muahahah

slofox
3rd September 2012, 13:47
Since getting the Honda I find I can't follow anything for long at all, whether they're sitting on 100kmp/h or not. I did actually manage to follow a nice purple holden with a personalized plate for a while heading south on the motorway. I eventually did pass it however and when fueling up at the lonely ol mobil halfway to Thames he passed me. Didn't take long to catch up and repass him muahahah

I always pass anything with a personalized plate on it - figure it prolly aint a mufti...:crazy:

G4L4XY
3rd September 2012, 14:33
Happy to follow someone at 115kph all day bearing in mind the 'first in line, pays the fine' rule (which is all well and good until the fine allocators come up from behind you).


I always pass anything with a personalized plate on it - figure it prolly aint a mufti...:crazy:

This is true. Every Holden that has a possibility of being a mufti I always do a slow pass (when passing on the motorway) and check for the lights on the dash or in the rear window.

Bonez
3rd September 2012, 14:37
I always pass anything with a personalized plate on it - figure it prolly aint a mufti...:crazy:OINK1 might be a dead give away.

GrayWolf
3rd September 2012, 17:38
OINK1 might be a dead give away.

so is P1G1 .......

Conquiztador
5th September 2012, 10:51
At times I amuse my self by counting the cages I pass. But you need to watch out as it is like counting sheep...