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5150
4th September 2012, 09:32
Just wanted to clear up a confusion.
If one buys a brand new 2012/13 Triumph Bonneville. Can the bike be entered in classic bike events? Racing, runs, rallies, shows etc? Or does it have to be at least "x" number of years old to be considered for these type of events.
Sable
4th September 2012, 09:46
The current production Bonneville has nothing in common with the old ones apart from a vague aesthetic resemblance. So, no. :pinch:
ellipsis
4th September 2012, 09:51
...in about 20 years...
Paul in NZ
4th September 2012, 10:30
No you can't but usually the classic club guys are very accommodating and if you want to trundle along for a ride with them they won't usually get all antsy about it... However - you can't race it as a classic and why enter it into a classic bike show when it isnt a classic bike? That would be considered very rude and insulting to people that have made a genuine commitment to run a classic bike.
Rallies and runs etc are different - turn up on anything really ....
Most 'events' that have a competitive nature will have classes with guidelines. ie 'pre war'. pre 1960 etc....
5150
4th September 2012, 10:32
No you can't but usually the classic club guys are very accommodating and if you want to trundle along for a ride with them they won't usually get all antsy about it
If they did, I just bump down a gear and leave them all in a cloud of dust :oi-grr:
ellipsis
4th September 2012, 11:35
...i'd say your new 'bonne' would have to work hard to stick with a lot of the classics we run...
5150
4th September 2012, 11:38
...i'd say your new 'bonne' would have to work hard to stick with a lot of the classics we run...
I beleive it probably would. :o
Paul in NZ
4th September 2012, 13:02
If they did, I just bump down a gear and leave them all in a cloud of dust :oi-grr:
Only if you were going the other way.... :innocent:
5150
4th September 2012, 13:27
Only if you were going the other way.... :innocent:
How the hell did you know what I was thinking? ;)
Paul in NZ
4th September 2012, 14:01
How the hell did you know what I was thinking? ;)
Lets just say the last two 'new' bonnie owners that came out for a fang ended up trading them in on a new Thunderbird and a Daytona....
HenryDorsetCase
4th September 2012, 14:08
Lets just say the last two 'new' bonnie owners that came out for a fang ended up trading them in on a new Thunderbird and a Daytona....
not surprising. I think a new Bonnie has about the same power as say a T120 (Paul will know) but its easily 50kg heavier.
5150
4th September 2012, 14:12
I didn't obviously buy my new Bonnie purely for speed. I loved Bonnevilles ever since I was a young kid and my dad took me to see "Great Escape" I bought it cause I like the look and the feel. If I wanted to whip your arses I would have kept my 675 Daytona. This one I am planning to keep and hand it down to my kids. I will get another sportier tourer in a very near future. Maybe even a dual purpose bike for the adv rides. Bonnie has a special place in my heart. speed or not
Paul in NZ
4th September 2012, 15:05
I think it pretty well comes down to size, weight and steering geometry... The new ones can be made to go a bit quicker though.
A really good T120 whips along pretty good and our 70 TR6C slays most of the new twins in the twisties mainly cos its so nimble and balanced. You really can chuck it ear to ear with no drama, they are a beautifully balanced neutral steering motorcycle. Park it next to a new one and it looks like a 250 and its hard to remember that these things were the king of the road once...
However if I had to ride to Auckland the new ones really come into their own. You always feel like one of the old 650's is about to explode between your legs at 100kph.... You certainly ride with one hand over the clutch (mainly to stop it rattling) and you feel a bit intimidated on the motorways these days.
I wish triumph would have built a light weight twin and stuck it in a light chassis...
Having said that the new ones sell like hot cakes and are greatly loved by their owners. I'd have a scrambler or a Thruxton in a flash... Both if I win Lotto and if there is room next to the Manx, Triton, Norvin, Brough Superior, the Black Shadow and Gold Star.... Cough.....
5150
4th September 2012, 15:42
I think it pretty well comes down to size, weight and steering geometry... The new ones can be made to go a bit quicker though.
A really good T120 whips along pretty good and our 70 TR6C slays most of the new twins in the twisties mainly cos its so nimble and balanced. You really can chuck it ear to ear with no drama, they are a beautifully balanced neutral steering motorcycle. Park it next to a new one and it looks like a 250 and its hard to remember that these things were the king of the road once...
However if I had to ride to Auckland the new ones really come into their own. You always feel like one of the old 650's is about to explode between your legs at 100kph.... You certainly ride with one hand over the clutch (mainly to stop it rattling) and you feel a bit intimidated on the motorways these days.
I wish triumph would have built a light weight twin and stuck it in a light chassis...
Having said that the new ones sell like hot cakes and are greatly loved by their owners. I'd have a scrambler or a Thruxton in a flash... Both if I win Lotto and if there is room next to the Manx, Triton, Norvin, Brough Superior, the Black Shadow and Gold Star.... Cough.....
Ahh, yesss. TR6. Would love to get one of them. As for Thruxton. I love the look of a cafe racer, but my heart still lies with the Bonnie :)
Voltaire
4th September 2012, 16:14
...i'd say your new 'bonne' would have to work hard to stick with a lot of the classics we run...
What the Bonnie loses in weight and power it makes up for in not having to carry parts and tools and you can run one hard all day....;)
5150
4th September 2012, 16:35
What the Bonnie loses in weight and power it makes up for in not having to carry parts and tools and you can run one hard all day....;)
AMEN to that :yes:
kb_SF1
4th September 2012, 20:48
5150 hello I have a classic, the Laverda also have a modern bonne enjoy riding both.
The Waikato Classic Club allows all types of bikes on there rides, owning a classic is not a requirement just a quick talk to the club captain is all that is needed.
Next club meeting is Tuesday 11 Sept 7:30pm if your interested.
KB
toycollector10
1st October 2012, 20:12
It's a case of "the old look in the new style" and I don't think it ever works. Fuel injection disguised to look like carburetion? What's that about? A PT Cruiser? Much beloved by their owners but held in contempt by a lot of classic car owners. I regard faux nostalgia in a very dim light. If you want a classic motorcycle then don't ride away from your local dealer on a 2012/2013 model thinking you'v'e got a classic bike, you ain't! Go and buy a real classic. Without wanting to get into a typical KiwiBiker Slanging Match I mean all of the above in a very respectful Each To Their Own sort of way. Peace.
Voltaire
2nd October 2012, 08:05
Does it come down to wanting " the look" but not the hassle of mechanics and or learning about them?
I just picked up an 82 Guzzi Monza in non running condition....for me its like that first few days in a foreign country....new and exciting......saying that even foreign countries are not so much like that any more either......:facepalm:
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