Smoking is healthier than same-sex marriage

[Bassmatt]

.......according to the Australian Christian Lobby.
ACL leader Jim Wallace says:

"I think we're going to owe smokers a big apology when the homosexual community's own statistics for its health - which it presents when it wants more money for health - are that it has higher rates of drug-taking, of suicide, it has the life of a male reduced by up to 20 years," he told the audience.

"The life of smokers is reduced by something like seven to 10 years and yet we tell all our kids at school they shouldn't smoke."

Assuming what he says about the 20 year reduction in lifespan is true (I have seen articles/stats that show very poor health outcomes for homosexual males) where does that leave us - lay off the smokers, move to reduce and evetually ban homosexual males, put a levy on vaseline?
Discuss.

[avgas]

Shooting yourself in the face with a shotgun is safer than any marriage.

[george formby]

By my reckoning, as a smoker, if i were to prefer dipping my cracker in the chutney jar rather than the honey pot I would have died 2 years ago. Phew!!

[Tigadee]

http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/files/2012/08/JoeFriday1-300x288.jpg

Facts... otherwise:
http://upperdeckboys.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/joe-friday-just-the-facts.png?w=490

[Bassmatt]

Have since found this:
"A new study which analyzed tens of thousands of gay obituaries and compared them with AIDS deaths data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), has shown that the life expectancy for homosexuals is about twenty years shorter than that of the general public. The study, entitled “Gay obituaries closely track officially reported deaths from AIDS”, has been published in Psychological Reports (2005;96:693-697)."
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2005/jun/05060606

And this:
"In our paper, we demonstrated that in a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 21 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality continued, we estimated that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years would not reach their 65th birthday. "
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/30/6/1499.full

So it appears that the (bigoted, I'm sure) bugger may be correct.

[bogan]

Simple, gays are shunned. They worry about coming out to family/friends, get insulted, dilemmas when trying to find something to wear. Its a stressful life. If we shun the smokers enough, we can surely decrease their lifespans too...

[scumdog]

Simple, gays are shunned. They worry about coming out to family/friends, get insulted, dilemmas when trying to find something to wear. Its a stressful life. If we shun the smokers enough, we can surely decrease their lifespans too...

Pretty much sums it up - just being gay in todays society is stress enough let alone getting 'married'.

[short-circuit]

I think you'll find Maori life expectancies are lower than Euros...what's your point?

Being gay isn't a behaviour like smoking.

Are you confused or just being facetious?

[Bassmatt]

I think you'll find Maori life expectancies are lower than Euros...what's your point?

Being gay isn't a behaviour like smoking.

Are you confused or just being facetious?

No. But I'm not so liberal that I wont accept that certain lifestyles may lead to unwanted outcomes if that is what the facts show.
If I had found an article saying the reverse was true I would have posted it and asked peoples opinions on that.
Don't be so bloody precious.

[short-circuit]

No. But I'm not so liberal that I wont accept that certain lifestyles may lead to unwanted outcomes if that is what the facts show.
If I had found an article saying the reverse was true I would have posted it and asked peoples opinions on that.
Don't be so bloody precious.

Whose being precious? If you talk shit expect to be called.

All the research shows that gay people are as gay as a Maori is Maori. Fuck all to do with lifestyle, fuck all to do with choice.

Smokers exercise a choice and should be prepared to deal with the consequences of that choice. Suck it up - excuse the pun

[Tigadee]

Better use for cigarettes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmi_Ju2OkU&feature=related

[Bassmatt]

[QUOTE=short-circuit;1130392341]Whose being precious? If you talk shit expect to be called.

All the research shows that gay people are as gay as a Maori is Maori. Fuck all to do with lifestyle, fuck all to do with choice.

Smokers exercise a choice and should be prepared to deal with the consequences of that choice. Suck it up - excuse the pun[/QUOTE

Fucken hell the facts stand until you provide some sort of refutation - call me on them.
And some links to research comparing gay and Maori would be good.
Did you miss this bit "If I had found an article saying the reverse was true I would have posted it and asked peoples opinions on that."
I found what I thought was an interesting and amusing viewpoint, and suggested people might like to discuss it.
I was actually hoping for more comments/discussion of the type bogan offered rather than the "how dare you say anything that could possibly be construed as anti-gay" crap that you have offered.

[98tls]

Pretty much sums it up - just being gay in todays society is stress enough let alone getting 'married'.

As summer approches i feel rather gay,no stress involved.Waking up of a morning knowing i had stuck my dick in another blokes poo hole:weep:yep that i would find stressful.

[short-circuit]

Crap. You posted "christian" propaganda suggesting that (like smoking) homosexuality is both a social problem and a choice. And, it was quite obvious from your subsequent posts that it's a viewpoint your sympathetic to. Probably coz you're a bit dense.


Comprehension fail on your part re the Maori analogy - based on heredity (the biology of sexual orientation).

[98tls]

[QUOTE=Bassmatt;1130392460]


Crap. You posted "christian" propaganda suggesting that (like smoking) homosexuality is both a social problem and a choice.

Fuck here we go,now its everyone elses fault when some bloke wakes up in anothers bed.

[scumdog]

Comprehension fail on your part re the Maori analogy - based .

You had to bring anal into it, didn't you?:crazy:

[Mental Trousers]

It's obvious isn't it!!!! Gays don't live as long cos they bash their heads against the headboard so much.

[short-circuit]

Fuck here we go,now its everyone elses fault when some bloke wakes up in anothers bed.

Are you not talking about an act of homosexuality as opposed to someone possessing the genetic make up that results in homosexual orientation / identity?

[Madness]

Someone needs to tell Tariana Turia that it's safer for men to smoke a Marlboro than cock.

[ducatilover]

Simple, gays are shunned. They worry about coming out to family/friends, get insulted, dilemmas when trying to find something to wear. Its a stressful life. If we shun the smokers enough, we can surely decrease their lifespans too...


I think you'll find Maori life expectancies are lower than Euros...what's your point?

Being gay isn't a behaviour like smoking.

Are you confused or just being facetious?


I'm now glad I chose to smoke instead of being gay, or Maori, or both

On a pun issue: I've had more fags than most gays have.
Hopefully that doesn't get taken the wrong way.
Oops.
Butthurt.

[Haggis2]

As a gay smoker I'm totally fucked, catch you fellas in another life :innocent:

[Road kill]

Someone needs to tell Tariana Turia that it's safer for men to smoke a Marlboro than cock.

Ha Ha Ha,,I fucken dare ya' to,,,you'd be braver than me for sure.:shifty:

Anyway back to the homo's dieing earlier than normal men.

They abuse more recreational drugs than normal people,they take it up the arse,they suck other guys cocks,they spread nasty germs,they get beat up by rednecks,so of course their going to die earlier than men.

It's been a slow week,bring it on:corn:

[Goblin]

It's obvious isn't it!!!! Gays don't live as long cos they bash their heads against the headboard so much.Hey, you dont have to be gay for that!:wacko:

[oldrider]

Hey, you dont have to be gay for that!:wacko:

You don't have to be gay for anything! :mellow:

[mashman]

hmmmmm... so the govt want to legalise gay marriage, but want to ban smoking. Who says they aren't out to get ya :yes:

[scumdog]

hmmmmm... so the govt want to legalise gay marriage, but want to ban smoking. Who says they aren't out to get ya :yes:

Keep wearing that tin-foil hat Mashy...<_<

[Road kill]

Had a funny incident happen with a gay guy I know due to my wifes showing dogs,and there's Lots gay people in the dog showing world.

Anyway,my wife an three of her friends had done a trip to Wellington,attending three shows on the way and ending up at the nationals in Wellington.

They all went down in a camper van,12 dogs an three women:shit:something not to be involved in for sure.

On their way back home the plan was for me to meet them at the top of the Bombay hills and pick up the Mrs and our four mutts.

So it's 11 o'clock ,dark an raining,and I'm sitting in my car waiting for them to show up when this guy steps out from under the cover at the gas station an walks over to my car,so I wind down the window to see what he's up to.

He say's "Hi love,I'm waiting for the girls",,,but me being the very defensive punch first an ask questions later type,misread exactly what he'd said and ment.

So I step out of the car and reply,,"Ya' fucken' what ?",,he starts back peddling an then as the penny final drops I realise who he actually is.

So the moral of the story,,,if your a bit dodgy looking an sound like a Sydney Kiwifruit,,be very carefull about which Homophobic mugger aware redneck you approach on a dark,wet an windy night.

It could be a pretty good way to lose that 20 years.

[scumdog]

Homohpobic?

About as logical as being scared of spiders, moths and mice.

[Tigadee]

So the moral of the story,,,if your a bit dodgy looking an sound like a Sydney Kiwifruit,,be very carefull

They have Kiwifruit in Sydney? :scratch:

[Road kill]

They have Kiwifruit in Sydney? :scratch:

Yeah,at Kingscross.

You work it out,,Darling:yes:

[Road kill]

Homohpobic?

About as logical as being scared of spiders, moths and mice.

Homophobic,,the fear of one's own sexuality.

Twisted today to mean scared of Homosexuals,,,not true on either level but most of us still fall into using common terms to describe things.

It's like "Gay" meaning homosexual,,,,never was when I was growing up,but today it seems it does,,so on we go:rolleyes: